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Title: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2016, 10:29:12 PM

We have known for some time that Michael Fassbender would be portraying two synthetic characters in Alien: Covenant. One would be David from Prometheus, the other would be a brand new David-model synthetic who is part of the Covenant’s crew. Other than that we’ve had no real details on this new David android.

We now know Alien: Covenant new android character will be named Walter. Michael Fassbender divulged the tidbit in an interview in the latest edition of The Irish Times. Beware minor spoilers.

“I am allowed to say I am playing two robots – Walter and David. I think what’s great about it is that Ridley has gone back to the original DNA of Alien, the horror element of that. But is also has the scope and the scale of Prometheus. Ridley has cut it already. He is a machine. He is an incredible human being and he was in such good form. He is such an imaginative and mischievous figure.”

Alien vs. Predator Galaxy can also also tell you that Walter is not a fan of David. Walter is a more advanced and up-to-date version of the David model. He is distrustful of David 8 because the older model has gone without any form of maintenance or upgrades during the ten year interval he has been in isolation between the Prometheus incident and the Covenant crew making landfall on the supposed paradise planet that Alien: Covenant takes place on.

Michael Fassbender as the Covenant's synthetic, Walter.

Michael Fassbender as the Covenant’s synthetic, Walter.

The name Walter is an obvious break in the traditional naming pattern of the Alien film’s synthetic characters – (A)sh, (B)ishop, (C)all and (D)avid. Like us, I’m sure many of you were expecting something along the lines of Edward.

Fassbender also reiterates what he and his fellow cast members have been saying about the film, that it is a horror film with a bigger scope. He also mentions that Ridley Scott has already completed a cut of Alien: Covenant. Thanks to crazybooklady (via Twitter) for the news!

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Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: Alienon on Oct 30, 2016, 10:44:24 PM
So, mb David will kill Walter? Or use Black Goo and morphing Walter in alien? Walter is first alien? :o
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Infected on Oct 30, 2016, 11:05:06 PM
Wow ten years has passed since Prometheus and David is active all that time, possibly on that planet.....damn!
That almost indicates in my head that Shaw will be shown in flashbacks.
And Walter obviously being the smarter softer version against David the most evil synthetic ever!!
Besides the new aliens and the story this is one big thing to look forward to!!
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Oct 30, 2016, 11:05:33 PM
Oh I'm so relieved he doesn't have an E name. Would've been too obvious and cute.

I wish his name was David too, though. Lindelof talked about how a David is like an iPod, and with the David commercials and all, that implies that there are thousands of Davids. So we get a new robot that looks like David but is named... Walter.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: XENOMORPHOSIS on Oct 30, 2016, 11:15:50 PM
Though bit of a stretch could the name be a reference tribute to Walter Hill one of the producers of the Alien series? Come to think of it does that mean David was named after producer David Giller?
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: BonesawT101 on Oct 31, 2016, 12:02:11 AM
Thanks for the news Hicks!
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 31, 2016, 12:05:14 AM
haha Walter, that's a meth heads name. :P

Damn this keeps getting better and better. The goody two-shoes David08 model named Walter vs the out of date prodigal son, David Weyland. This is like Win10 vs WinXP. Damn that is going to be awesome.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Oct 31, 2016, 12:08:26 AM
Thanks Hicks. 8)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: Morose on Oct 31, 2016, 12:54:47 AM
As far as the whole David being something like an iPod is very reasonable in this universe. Maybe the reason why this android is called Walter is because the crew and him share a friendlier relationship. Thus instead of calling him by his code name, they (or him) chose another one.

It would be interesting if the two Davids confronted each other and had a fight. One arguing for the good of humanity and the other arguing against it.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Oct 31, 2016, 12:58:32 AM
Quote from: Morose on Oct 31, 2016, 12:54:47 AM
As far as the whole David being something like an iPod is very reasonable in this universe. Maybe the reason why this android is called Walter is because the crew and him share a friendlier relationship. Thus instead of calling him by his code name, they (or him) chose another one.

It would be interesting if the two Davids confronted each other and had a fight. One arguing for the good of humanity and the other arguing against it.

There is a stunt performer for Fassbender.... Good indication the two will have it out.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Xenomorphine on Oct 31, 2016, 02:29:04 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2016, 10:29:12 PM
during the ten year interval he has been in isolation

A form of... Alien isolation... If you will.

Spoiler
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Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: Rankles75 on Oct 31, 2016, 02:32:31 AM
Tough to choose who'd win in a fight between the two, but I think David's just a head...  8)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Protozoid on Oct 31, 2016, 02:58:09 AM
Maybe, like Alien 1 and 4, there will be a surprise robot. Watch out for crewmembers whose names begin with 'E'!
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: The Alien Predator on Oct 31, 2016, 04:32:28 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Oct 31, 2016, 02:29:04 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2016, 10:29:12 PM
during the ten year interval he has been in isolation

A form of... Alien isolation... If you will.

Spoiler
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Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: Kronnang_Dunn on Oct 31, 2016, 05:41:59 AM
I hoped he would be called Evan... ::)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: The Alien Predator on Oct 31, 2016, 06:31:13 AM
Or Edward, just like Edward Scissorhands, another artificial human from a film of the same name.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 31, 2016, 07:12:18 AM
It's an entirely superficial thing but I am a little disappointed they didn't follow the pattern. First world problems, ey?

I do like the name though. There's just something about it. Walter. Sounds like a butler-esque name you would give a synthetic.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: BonesawT101 on Oct 31, 2016, 07:19:44 AM
Yeah, I like the name, it's got such an old school synthetic feel to it.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: Anonymous on Oct 30, 2016, 10:44:24 PM
Androids haven't dna....so i think that black goo has null effects on them...
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 31, 2016, 07:46:29 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 31, 2016, 07:12:18 AM
It's an entirely superficial thing but I am a little disappointed they didn't follow the pattern. First world problems, ey?

I do like the name though. There's just something about it. Walter. Sounds like a butler-esque name you would give a synthetic.
It is possible that they're many androids on the ship. Maybe we'll get androids named E --> V along with Walter.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Scorpio on Oct 31, 2016, 08:19:53 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Oct 31, 2016, 07:46:29 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 31, 2016, 07:12:18 AM
It's an entirely superficial thing but I am a little disappointed they didn't follow the pattern. First world problems, ey?

I do like the name though. There's just something about it. Walter. Sounds like a butler-esque name you would give a synthetic.
It is possible that they're many androids on the ship. Maybe we'll get androids named E --> V along with Walter.  :laugh:

Maybe they're all androids.  :o
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 31, 2016, 09:25:27 AM
Oh f*ck you, Ridley, for spoiling the pattern!

A - Ash
B - Bishop
C - Call
D - David

...

W - Walter

:P
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: Anonymous on Oct 30, 2016, 10:44:24 PM
i am a little bit disappointed about that thing of "spores" which, combinated to black goo, contaminate humans. that s too vanilla. i would have loved to see something more elaborated about the genesis of xenos. something arcaic and totally astonishing, totally new. but following the line offered by the spoilers, it s seems that the movie has already been explained.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Oct 31, 2016, 10:34:16 AM
I love how Ridley can change it up. 8)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: The Bonus Situation on Oct 31, 2016, 10:44:38 AM
I love the way Fassbender is looking at Scott. Like a good student paying VERY close attention to what the professor is saying!

God I can't wait for this film.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: motherfather on Oct 31, 2016, 10:46:17 AM
I just dont get it. These last few revelations seem to get further away from the Alien universe and closer to the Prometheus universe. Exactly the opposite of what was promised in various interviews with Ridley.

Why no E-name? And why, oh why, no female android? Thats hardly shaking anything up.

Technically, Walter could have been in Prometheus assuming its a prequel timeline wise to Alien. Z or A would make the covenant android name fit to start over at A again for Alien. Thats the only explanation I can think of.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Le Celticant on Oct 31, 2016, 10:53:33 AM
It's actually not far from reality:

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Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Oct 31, 2016, 11:09:13 AM
So is he the one who Knocks?  :P
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 31, 2016, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: Le Celticant on Oct 31, 2016, 10:53:33 AMIt's actually not far from reality:

My favourite's still First Blood, Rambo: First Blood Part 2, Rambo III, John Rambo.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 31, 2016, 12:26:07 PM
Yea ok... Prometheus, Alien: Covenant, Alien, Aliens, Alien³, Alien: Resurrection.

What was he thinking...
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Master on Oct 31, 2016, 12:27:59 PM
It's amazing how such small thing can be so disappointing.

Oh well, at least I don't have to change a name in my AvP3 fanfic again. It already was changed from Donovan to Edison.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Fatboy40 on Oct 31, 2016, 12:30:35 PM
So he's 'Walter the Wobot'  ;)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 31, 2016, 12:35:44 PM
This just doesn't make any sense. The greatest thing to happen in the movie has got to be when David and Walter fall in love and have the greatest gay-robot sex scene ever. After which, Walter turns on the Covenant Crew and proclaims his name was always Ellison.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Necronomicon II on Oct 31, 2016, 01:06:31 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Oct 31, 2016, 12:35:44 PM
This just doesn't make any sense. The greatest thing to happen in the movie has got to be when David and Walter fall in love and have the greatest gay-robot sex scene ever. After which, Walter turns on the Covenant Crew and proclaims his name was always Ellison.
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Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: lv_226 on Oct 31, 2016, 01:36:17 PM
Am I the only one happy they didn't keep with the naming convention? I like it. Orthodoxy (complacency) is what got this series in trouble in the first place.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: BonesawT101 on Oct 31, 2016, 01:59:00 PM
Quote from: lv_226 on Oct 31, 2016, 01:36:17 PM
Am I the only one happy they didn't keep with the naming convention? I like it. Orthodoxy (complacency) is what got this series in trouble in the first place.
This!
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Necronomicon II on Oct 31, 2016, 02:29:28 PM
I concur.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: motherfather on Oct 31, 2016, 02:51:43 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Oct 31, 2016, 12:35:44 PM
This just doesn't make any sense. The greatest thing to happen in the movie has got to be when David and Walter fall in love and have the greatest gay-robot sex scene ever. After which, Walter turns on the Covenant Crew and proclaims his name was always Ellison.

Id like to see where cock docking takes us. Robot must not come from the US though. Robots cut not wanted. Lol...
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Xenomorphine on Oct 31, 2016, 02:51:57 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 31, 2016, 07:12:18 AM
It's an entirely superficial thing but I am a little disappointed they didn't follow the pattern. First world problems, ey?

I do like the name though. There's just something about it. Walter. Sounds like a butler-esque name you would give a synthetic.

Years of watching Jeff Dunham mean my thoughts upon hearing that name immediately turn to this guy:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f6/0f/71/f60f7108b77472d0a42aff080ec5c7a0.jpg)

So, here's hoping he'll be cranky and tell people to shut the hell up when they order him about...
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Kel G 426 on Oct 31, 2016, 03:56:14 PM
Was the naming pattern intentional in the first place?  I thought it was coincidental.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 31, 2016, 03:59:36 PM
Pretty sure there had to be some intention to get it to work out 4 times in a row.

Might have been a coincidence with Bishop but by the name you get to David it had to have been done on purpose.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 31, 2016, 04:00:49 PM
David was 100% intentional. I asked Spaihts about that. I can't attest to the others though.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Oct 31, 2016, 04:11:16 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Oct 31, 2016, 12:35:44 PM
This just doesn't make any sense. The greatest thing to happen in the movie has got to be when David and Walter fall in love and have the greatest gay-robot sex scene ever. After which, Walter turns on the Covenant Crew and proclaims his name was always Ellison.

Wasn't there some crazy rumour a little while back that Daniels and Walter have some sort of relationship going on between them and then David reprograms him to murder her or something like that? Where was that from?
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Glaive on Oct 31, 2016, 07:02:51 PM
Do we know if Walther is a series 8 as well, or is he an older model?
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 07:08:59 PM
Walter is a more advanced and up-to-date version of the David model.

;)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Master on Oct 31, 2016, 07:10:13 PM
I hope there is yet another unexpected droid with E name.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 07:14:05 PM
Lol. Ridley is smarter than that.

Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: 426Buddy on Oct 31, 2016, 07:19:39 PM
I new of the pattern but I hardly care if it's broken or not. Walter is a fine name for an android.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Glaive on Oct 31, 2016, 07:25:58 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 07:08:59 PM
Walter is a more advanced and up-to-date version of the David model.

;)

Is that fact, or merely supposition by Hicks?
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 31, 2016, 07:26:21 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 07:14:05 PMLol. Ridley is smarter than that.

Then how do you explain Prometheus?
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 07:34:53 PM
That massive critical and commercial success? It explains itself.

Ridley's got a story to tell. He doesn't have time to adhere to cute nominal patterns for androids.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Glaive on Oct 31, 2016, 07:39:48 PM
If there's a fight between the two of them and they both end up either dark-haired or blonde-haired, pointing at each other saying 'Kill him, that's David!' and 'NO! HE's David!!'...I will do something I've never done before and exit the cinema...


(...obviously I've exited cinemas before...stop being pedantic...)


(or, unless it's done in a REALLY novel way...)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Oct 31, 2016, 08:16:15 PM
Quote from: Protozoid on Oct 31, 2016, 02:58:09 AM
Maybe, like Alien 1 and 4, there will be a surprise robot. Watch out for crewmembers whose names begin with 'E'!

This.

There is going to be a twist when it comes to this name thing as Scott didn't break the name pattern just because he felt like it. Either one of the crew members with a first name or last name starting with E will show up to be a synthetic -or-
Spoiler
David and Walter merge (maybe with the help of black goo) into this new hybrid android that has an E name. I mean, what if Walter's head is blown off or severely damaged and they attach David's head to Walter's body?
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Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: GQSioux on Oct 31, 2016, 08:17:57 PM
Maybe it's going to be W, X, Y, Z now. 

A droid with an "X" name in the next movie, and so forth.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Glaive on Oct 31, 2016, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: GQSioux on Oct 31, 2016, 08:17:57 PM
Maybe it's going to be W, X, Y, Z now. 

A droid with an "X" name in the next movie, and so forth.

Looking forward to 'Xander'...
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Valaquen on Oct 31, 2016, 08:46:31 PM
I always thought the ABCD thing was serendipitous.

Walter reminds me of Judge Dredd's robot waiter.

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I like it for that alone  :laugh:
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: GQSioux on Oct 31, 2016, 08:49:00 PM
Or maybe Walter will also be given a last name that starts with an "E."

Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: 426Buddy on Oct 31, 2016, 08:52:50 PM
Starting with David these androids will be named after the producers of Alien, the next movie will feature Gordon as the synthetic.

Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 31, 2016, 09:12:54 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 07:34:53 PMThat massive critical and commercial success? It explains itself.

Big profits doesn't make it a smart movie.

Look at the Transformers films.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 09:21:24 PM
Big profits doesn't make it a dumb movie.

(I'm not going any further down this rabbit hole)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Glaive on Oct 31, 2016, 09:23:37 PM
Guys...I think we're getting WAAAY ahead of ourselves...:)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Oct 31, 2016, 09:47:22 PM
Quote from: GQSioux on Oct 31, 2016, 08:49:00 PM
Or maybe Walter will also be given a last name that starts with an "E."

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Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 31, 2016, 08:52:50 PM
Starting with David these androids will be named after the producers of Alien, the next movie will feature Gordon as the synthetic.

Riddles getting back at those assholes who gave him such a hard time back in the day.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: SiL on Oct 31, 2016, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 09:21:24 PM
Big profits doesn't make it a dumb movie.

(I'm not going any further down this rabbit hole)
No, but Prometheus was a dumb movie that happened to make money. Like Transformers.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Oct 31, 2016, 10:21:59 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 31, 2016, 09:47:22 PM
Quote from: GQSioux on Oct 31, 2016, 08:49:00 PM
Or maybe Walter will also be given a last name that starts with an "E."

Spoiler
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:laugh: !!!

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Wall-E ...now that's genius!
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Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Master on Oct 31, 2016, 10:22:26 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 07:14:05 PM
Lol. Ridley is smarter than that.
Maybe he is, still you're a moron. You posts hardly add to discussion,  mostly are attempts to show off or create the feeling you know more then you actually do (let's not forget brilliant casting ideas for new predator). Please start using head before posting.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 31, 2016, 10:24:54 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 09:21:24 PMBig profits doesn't make it a dumb movie.

When did I ever say all big-grossing films were dumb...?

Doesn't change the fact Prometheus was a pretty dumb film trying to masquerade as something more. The fact it made bank doesn't change that.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 10:49:27 PM
Quote from: Master on Oct 31, 2016, 10:22:26 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 07:14:05 PM
Lol. Ridley is smarter than that.
Maybe he is, still you're a moron. You posts hardly add to discussion,  mostly are attempts to show off or create the feeling you know more then you actually do (let's not forget brilliant casting ideas for new predator). Please start using head before posting.

Nice insults.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 31, 2016, 10:24:54 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 09:21:24 PMBig profits doesn't make it a dumb movie.

When did I ever say all big-grossing films were dumb...?

Doesn't change the fact Prometheus was a pretty dumb film trying to masquerade as something more. The fact it made bank doesn't change that.

Okay, you're speaking qualitatively. I'm speaking in hard facts and data. And it is true, Prometheus was a critical and commercial success. Those two things are easily corroborated. I can cite them.

It being dumb or smart though is subjective. You think it's dumb, I think it's smart. Master thinks I'm a moron, I think I'm not a moron. ;)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: SiL on Oct 31, 2016, 11:01:07 PM
It being dumb is pretty quantifiable.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Glaive on Oct 31, 2016, 11:04:05 PM
Guys, play nice...or I'll get the 'genital-cuff'...!
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 01, 2016, 01:08:45 AM
Good god it's like AVPGalaxy is manned by a ship of fools. Fools who think they know it all and fools who are too foolish to know when to stop trying to right them fools. Prometheus is an awesome movie.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 31, 2016, 07:26:21 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 07:14:05 PMLol. Ridley is smarter than that.

Then how do you explain Prometheus?
Picasso!
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 01, 2016, 03:07:57 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 31, 2016, 09:25:27 AM
Oh f*ck you, Ridley, for spoiling the pattern!

A - Ash
B - Bishop
C - Call
D - David

...

W - Walter

:P

Шalter

There it is!
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: The Alien Predator on Nov 01, 2016, 03:30:22 AM
Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on Nov 01, 2016, 03:07:57 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 31, 2016, 09:25:27 AM
Oh f*ck you, Ridley, for spoiling the pattern!

A - Ash
B - Bishop
C - Call
D - David

...

W - Walter

:P

Шalter

There it is!

With a little bit of rotation and you will get Ealter. See? Riddley did a little twisting of the letter E, but the pattern's still there if you're willing to look.  :laugh:

But man, I was really hoping the pattern would stay... it was so fun trying to predict all the names of subsequent Androids.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Syntheti...
Post by: Chris!(($$))! on Nov 01, 2016, 06:21:21 AM
Walter.
W is the fourth till last letter.

I would say there is still a pattern to be found.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Syntheti...
Post by: The Alien Predator on Nov 01, 2016, 06:32:05 AM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on Nov 01, 2016, 06:21:21 AM
Walter.
W is the fourth till last letter.

I would say there is still a pattern to be found.

Just how D is the fourth from the first letter.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Master on Nov 01, 2016, 06:56:31 AM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 10:49:27 PM
Quote from: Master on Oct 31, 2016, 10:22:26 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 07:14:05 PM
Lol. Ridley is smarter than that.
Maybe he is, still you're a moron. You posts hardly add to discussion,  mostly are attempts to show off or create the feeling you know more then you actually do (let's not forget brilliant casting ideas for new predator). Please start using head before posting.

Nice insults.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 31, 2016, 10:24:54 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 31, 2016, 09:21:24 PMBig profits doesn't make it a dumb movie.

When did I ever say all big-grossing films were dumb...?

Doesn't change the fact Prometheus was a pretty dumb film trying to masquerade as something more. The fact it made bank doesn't change that.

Okay, you're speaking qualitatively. I'm speaking in hard facts and data. And it is true, Prometheus was a critical and commercial success. Those two things are easily corroborated. I can cite them.

It being dumb or smart though is subjective. You think it's dumb, I think it's smart. Master thinks I'm a moron, I think I'm not a moron. ;)

Just because the Turd is in shape and package that looks good; Just because many of those 'Who Knows' appreciated the Turd; Just because lots of people  paid to see the Turd; And just because the Turd is made by famous man, doesn't change the fact it is  a Turd.

Grand directors,  a-list actors and gargantuan budget doesn't mean shit when, in the end , plot is dumb and execution chaotic.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 01, 2016, 08:32:09 AM
Comeon gents, play nicely. If you have any issue with another member, please raise it with staff or use the reporting function. We're not all going to agree but if you're going to disagree with each other, do it civilly. And Bishop, we've spoke about the condescending attitude before.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: itshouldneverhavebeenabug on Nov 01, 2016, 09:57:49 AM
I keep reading it as "water" not "walter." It seems like an odd choice, a bit of a throw-back name. I wonder if there is any significance in it, as such a name couldn't be randomly chosen? And thanks Hicks for all these updates over the last week.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 01, 2016, 09:59:12 AM
Walter is such an enigma. It's pretty much a David but named Walter... I'm starting to dig this D is to W thing cooked up above.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Scorpio on Nov 01, 2016, 10:12:39 AM
D and W are both in WeylanD..

But both David series of androids.  Ash, Bishop & Call were all separate series.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: markweatherill on Nov 01, 2016, 12:49:16 PM
So anyway, 'Walter'.

It 'disnae' make sense. :)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: motherfather on Nov 01, 2016, 01:00:55 PM
That would make a fine "where's walter?"scenario in a mass Android assembly plant.

I don't know. Im losing interest and patience in all things Androidy. If you wanna make a film about Robots, then make a film about Robots.

Just don't twist a perfectly fine film about aliens into a "David the robot" show. Thats my biggest fear at the moment, whereas previously it was a fear that prometheus 2 movie would be a "hey dudes its the David and Shaw space road trip" show.

(As much as I like Fassbender, his character shouldn't carry the movie)

Yes, im grumpy. Somebody has to be.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: PsyKore on Nov 01, 2016, 09:12:57 PM
I remember Holloway had some contempt for androids. Maybe that's a common attitude towards androids at the time and "Walter" is given to it make fun of it. It may still be a "David" android however.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: TheLordKunthar on Nov 01, 2016, 11:52:16 PM
So, Ridley decides that the Alphabet is too good for the Alien universe and breaks stride? something tells me he couldn't come up with a cool sounding E name >.>

Honestly, I'm all for Fassbender coming back in 2 forms, one as character and the other as a plot progressive device, but something tells me this is going to be a rinse and repeat of Prometheus.....
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Necronomicon II on Nov 02, 2016, 04:05:20 AM
The crew probably just gave him a pet name.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 02, 2016, 05:05:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCVR_ajL_Eo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCVR_ajL_Eo)

I wonder... if calling Walter a Robot would anger him? From the description he does appear to be the "sentimental issues" model. It would be funny if it was a direct relation to the Hyperdyne Systems 120-A/2's. You know, the ones that get all twitchy and go on murderous rampages. :P
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: itshouldneverhavebeenabug on Nov 02, 2016, 11:53:28 AM
Maybe it's the Lawrence of Arabia link. Lawrence's younger brother was called Arnold Walter ... tenuous link ... maybe ...
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Necronomicon II on Nov 02, 2016, 12:54:41 PM
Possibly...
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 02, 2016, 10:00:22 PM
It's amazing how many possibilities the AVPGalaxy crew are able to cook up over just a single letter and casual relationships. I wonder if that's what people would do on those long space ward voyages of the future. Just cook up some epic stories to pass the long boring night. It'll be like a renaissance but in space.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Nov 02, 2016, 10:31:36 PM
I just hope that whatever happens, the original David appears in the next two entries after Covenant. Maybe even a flashback or dream sequence of the real man David was based off of. Weyland's son? One can dream.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Necronomicon II on Nov 03, 2016, 05:49:55 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Nov 02, 2016, 10:00:22 PM
It's amazing how many possibilities the AVPGalaxy crew are able to cook up over just a single letter and casual relationships. I wonder if that's what people would do on those long space ward voyages of the future. Just cook up some epic stories to pass the long boring night. It'll be like a renaissance but in space.
Lol, I can imagine an AVP Galaxy voyage; where along with epic stories there will be frustrating political rants and everyone ejecting themselves out of the airlock while Hubbs is left on board on his lonesome. ;D :D
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 03, 2016, 11:34:38 AM
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Nov 03, 2016, 05:49:55 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Nov 02, 2016, 10:00:22 PM
It's amazing how many possibilities the AVPGalaxy crew are able to cook up over just a single letter and casual relationships. I wonder if that's what people would do on those long space ward voyages of the future. Just cook up some epic stories to pass the long boring night. It'll be like a renaissance but in space.
Lol, I can imagine an AVP Galaxy voyage; where along with epic stories there will be frustrating political rants and everyone ejecting themselves out of the airlock while Hubbs is left on board on his lonesome. ;D :D

The the ships AI self deletes because it cant stand it lol
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Necronomicon II on Nov 03, 2016, 12:13:18 PM
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-4t9_lpPJA8/maxresdefault.jpg)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wvgenweb.org%2Fmarshall%2Fcemetery%2Fbeeler-behrend3.jpg&hash=516e56d1ebb590a5fb19aeac5106ad893bae99eb)
:D
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 03, 2016, 12:34:56 PM
Comeon now guys, you know this isn't fair. He doesn't come into the other parts of the board that don't say General on them.

Back on topic.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 03, 2016, 12:39:28 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 03, 2016, 12:34:56 PM
Comeon now guys, you know this isn't fair. He doesn't come into another other parts of the board that don't say General on them.

Back on topic.
Dude, that is an amazing sentence.

Oh and I don't mean the sentence structure, it's that you just took a pot-shot while looking like you weren't trying to take a pot-shot at the guy.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: 426Buddy on Nov 03, 2016, 12:41:58 PM
I kinda wish they had kept with the original concept for David, where he was a prototype non-human looking android.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: whiterabbit on Nov 03, 2016, 12:45:49 PM
He's too advance for the time, however the entire movie of Prometheus is far too advance for the alien timeline.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: 426Buddy on Nov 03, 2016, 12:50:59 PM
Everything else being a little more "updated" was okay with me even if it was a bit overboard. The alien universe kind of needed an upgrade , even with the dirty low tech look that its known for. I think covenant will find that sweet spot between Prometheus and Alien though, I hope.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 03, 2016, 01:12:23 PM
The visual differences between tech was quite obvious but I can easily buy into the concept of it being top-of-the-line, better than anything you're going to buy from Space IKEA reasoning that was floated around.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Necronomicon II on Nov 03, 2016, 01:35:05 PM
This could potentially become Fassbender's finest hour, alternating between the two characters, he's going to steal the show.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Ingwar on Nov 03, 2016, 01:49:26 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Nov 03, 2016, 12:45:49 PM
He's too advance for the time, however the entire movie of Prometheus is far too advance for the alien timeline.

It is not. For example, let's compare Prometheus ship with Nostromo. First one was the most advanced and expensive faster-than-light space exploration vehicle. What is more, it was Weyland's biggest project. His obsession. He didn't spare money on it.

Nostromo was ... a space tractor  :)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Necronomicon II on Nov 03, 2016, 02:08:02 PM
Nostromo:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.minesurveyor.net%2Fimages%2Fclip_image002_0017.jpg&hash=4434d8e843996c6c148ba9e83293d47818a712ca)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Scorpio on Nov 03, 2016, 02:24:50 PM
WY is so cheap they used 100 year old computers for Nostromo.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7d/a8/3a/7da83ab812f3bf35122de75332ee1b23.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d4/b5/7b/d4b57b02a74d18046eb11c17dd46b4ab.png)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 03, 2016, 02:31:42 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 03, 2016, 12:34:56 PM
Comeon now guys, you know this isn't fair. He doesn't come into the other parts of the board that don't say General on them.

Back on topic.

Low Key Shade lol

Quote from: Scorpio on Nov 03, 2016, 02:24:50 PM
WY is so cheap they used 100 year old computers for Nostromo.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7d/a8/3a/7da83ab812f3bf35122de75332ee1b23.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d4/b5/7b/d4b57b02a74d18046eb11c17dd46b4ab.png)

Lol yeah, You dont have a member of the board on your ship, so you get my Atari, while I keep the PS4 lol
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Ingwar on Nov 03, 2016, 02:41:17 PM
Quote from: Scorpio on Nov 03, 2016, 02:24:50 PM
WY is so cheap they used 100 year old computers for Nostromo.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7d/a8/3a/7da83ab812f3bf35122de75332ee1b23.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d4/b5/7b/d4b57b02a74d18046eb11c17dd46b4ab.png)

It has nothing to do with WY. Alien was made in 1979.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: DaddyYautja on Nov 03, 2016, 07:11:16 PM
First they change the Xenos and now they are changing the naming order of the androids?

When are you going to stop, Scott!? Stop changing stuff!!!!!
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Ingwar on Nov 03, 2016, 09:47:05 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Nov 03, 2016, 07:11:16 PM
First they change the Xenos and now they are changing the naming order of the androids?

When are you going to stop, Scott!? Stop changing stuff!!!!!

Is that naming order so important? It's just a name. Edward or Walter? Who cares? Accept that. Don't be so orthodox about those little things. It doesn't have any impact on the plot itself.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: motherfather on Nov 03, 2016, 10:03:14 PM
True it doesnt serve any purpose on lots of levels, but like Mulder placing an impromptu X on his window using masking tape, or gulping down sunflower seeds,  the alphabetic naming of Alien androids belongs to the nerdgasmic slightly ritualistic minutae that makes for a great movie/show with a cult following.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Master on Nov 03, 2016, 10:13:05 PM
It is one of this little quirks specific to alien franchise , like drinking birds placed all over. Are they crucial for the franchise? Of course not, but by throwing them out you lose identity bulit for thirty years.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Ingwar on Nov 03, 2016, 10:13:20 PM
Quote from: motherfather on Nov 03, 2016, 10:03:14 PM
True it doesnt serve any purpose on lots of levels (...)

It doesn't serve any purpose at all. Some hardcore fans have almost "religious" approach towards that matter which I utterly don't understand. But then again, everyone's got different taste.


Quote from: Master on Nov 03, 2016, 10:13:05 PM
(...) Are they crucial for the franchise? Of course not, but by throwing them out you lose identity bulit for thirty years.

You don't lose anything. Especially identity. It's just a name :)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Master on Nov 03, 2016, 10:42:36 PM
For me it's throwing away something small but special.  Throwing away willingly!
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: The Bonus Situation on Nov 03, 2016, 10:44:22 PM
Agree with Ingwar. Plus there is still the capital 'D' David in this film, right after the capital 'C' Call from Resurrection, so technically Scott is not really breaking that alphabetical order. Maybe even David somehow integrates his AI conscious into Walter and starts doing bad things again, so its not really Walter, but its the capital 'D' David.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Syntheti...
Post by: Valaquen on Nov 04, 2016, 12:01:49 AM
I'm sure the naming of Walter and David is more of an ode to Walter Hill and David Giler, who created the character of Ash.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Syntheti...
Post by: NickisSmart on Nov 04, 2016, 12:52:34 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Nov 04, 2016, 12:01:49 AM
I'm sure the naming of Walter and David is more of an ode to Walter Hill and David Giler, who created the character of Ash.

Nailed it! :)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 04, 2016, 09:20:18 AM
Good call, Val!
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 04, 2016, 09:44:49 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Nov 04, 2016, 12:01:49 AM
I'm sure the naming of Walter and David is more of an ode to Walter Hill and David Giler, who created the character of Ash.

I'll love it if that is intentional.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Valaquen on Nov 04, 2016, 01:02:12 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 04, 2016, 09:44:49 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Nov 04, 2016, 12:01:49 AM
I'm sure the naming of Walter and David is more of an ode to Walter Hill and David Giler, who created the character of Ash.

I'll love it if that is intentional.

All we need is a character named Dan who insists the robots aren't needed on the ship  :laugh:
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Necronomicon II on Nov 04, 2016, 01:28:20 PM
Win.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: 426Buddy on Nov 04, 2016, 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 04, 2016, 09:44:49 AM
Quote from: Valaquen on Nov 04, 2016, 12:01:49 AM
I'm sure the naming of Walter and David is more of an ode to Walter Hill and David Giler, who created the character of Ash.

I'll love it if that is intentional.

This has been mentioned twice already in this thread lol  :P

Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Oct 30, 2016, 11:15:50 PM
Though bit of a stretch could the name be a reference tribute to Walter Hill one of the producers of the Alien series? Come to think of it does that mean David was named after producer David Giller?

Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 31, 2016, 08:52:50 PM
Starting with David these androids will be named after the producers of Alien, the next movie will feature Gordon as the synthetic.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Nov 04, 2016, 04:20:35 PM
But Ridley wanted Ash to be a Martian. So 35 years later in a fit of pique, he decided to do an entire film about a Martian and turn the Brandywine dudes into droids in the next Alien film.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: 426Buddy on Nov 04, 2016, 05:37:57 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 04, 2016, 04:20:35 PM
But Ridley wanted Ash to be a Martian. So 35 years later in a fit of pique, he decided to do an entire film about a Martian and turn the Brandywine dudes into droids in the next Alien film.


Considering how much David Giler and Walter Hill have been apart of the franchise I think it's quite possible.

Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Nov 04, 2016, 10:38:09 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Nov 04, 2016, 05:37:57 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Nov 04, 2016, 04:20:35 PM
But Ridley wanted Ash to be a Martian. So 35 years later in a fit of pique, he decided to do an entire film about a Martian and turn the Brandywine dudes into droids in the next Alien film.


Considering how much David Giler and Walter Hill have been apart of the franchise I think it's quite possible.

I was hoping for the Wall-E connection, but it sounds more likely that the naming of the new synthetic in A:C is a homage to David Giler and Walter Hill. David and Walter. But man, Wall-E - that would've been really cute.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Syntheti...
Post by: SamuelDL on Nov 18, 2016, 06:49:52 AM
Even if it does not begin with 'E', I really like Walter's name for the new android. We'll see if Scott gives us an unexpected twist. If there will, I do not think it's related to a third robot. I would seem too many in one movie.

And about the technology of the ships... As others have mentioned, it seems logical that the Prometheus is more advanced than the Nostromo. That it is the most expensive ship ever built is a good excuse to justify holograms and cleanliness. The Covenant, so little has been seen of her, seems to have a more tough and austere appearance, close to what we saw in the movie of '79:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fbw-filmbewertung.com%2Fuploads%2Ffbwdb_film%2Fgallery%2F9250%2F343a228fcd21b3515e310f6fed428cac02ed6911.jpg&hash=067c807b885e6b4128772ab2eec8665e7bc18ca3)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn3-www.comingsoon.net%2Fassets%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F06%2FaliencDANNY.jpg&hash=456c4cde9186a50a16155412dd266be97049e3e9)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-LC_Wg8DpMk4%2FT-n_6yV-kYI%2FAAAAAAAABeY%2FvrVoac0YUag%2Fs1600%2Fcockpit_10-1.jpg&hash=64c3c3ce7cb4e001cb406eb1184e27afbc33548d)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 18, 2016, 08:35:04 AM
Just those flip switches do it for me. It looks like a reasonable meld of future and past.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Syntheti...
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 18, 2016, 11:46:34 AM
Quote from: SamuelDL on Nov 18, 2016, 06:49:52 AMAnd about the technology of the ships... As others have mentioned, it seems logical that the Prometheus is more advanced than the Nostromo. That it is the most expensive ship ever built is a good excuse to justify holograms and cleanliness.

That rouble is the time gap. Would the bridge of a top-of-the-line scientific research vessel from 30 years ago really look that much more advanced than that of a container ship of today?

I'd argue the difference wouldn't be that stark.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 18, 2016, 11:47:55 AM
Depends how stagnant development got. The Auriga doesn't look great and that's a 200 year time gap.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 18, 2016, 11:51:22 AM
Well yeah, but I guess we never really get to see any of the massively techy areas of that, like the bridge. It's all just corridors.

Also you're forgetting they have this:

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-D2R7-vns9dQ%2FVbUmRHihzfI%2FAAAAAAABIuI%2FtG1M4wKo3Rs%2Fs640%2F19.png&hash=c00e890d453f11044a711999c347762fe93d5b00)

TECHNOLOGY :P
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Nov 18, 2016, 11:55:44 AM
I always assumed that the Auriga was a ship they pulled out of mothballs for what they needed and they just added what they needed to it
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Astronoë on Feb 23, 2017, 09:48:37 PM
Maybe this has been asked before, but is this Walter n David together before David went off to the Prometheus?  :o

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So, who won the game?
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 23, 2017, 09:53:37 PM
That's from the David viral video for Prometheus, if I'm not mistaken, so they're both Davids.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Astronoë on Feb 23, 2017, 09:58:55 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 23, 2017, 09:53:37 PM
That's from the David viral video for Prometheus, if I'm not mistaken, so they're both Davids.

Yes from there, but David was a specific individual only? Like Walter has his own name like the other droids Ash n Bishop instead of generation designation

Quote"Was it an older model?"
"Yeah. The Hyperdyne Systems 120-A/2."
"Well that explains it. The A/2s always were a bit twitchy."
―Bishop and Burke, regarding Ash (from Aliens)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 23, 2017, 10:00:52 PM
According to that video Davids are all called David. Just like there was another Bishop in *gulp* ACM.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Astronoë on Feb 23, 2017, 10:03:23 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 23, 2017, 10:00:52 PM
According to that video Davids are all called David. Just like there was another Bishop in *gulp* ACM.

Or they only spoke to one called David cuz he was special model n was set off to join Weyland. Could probably be giving a robot a name is just to make humans more comfortable.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
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So, who won the game?

Most likely ended in stalemate.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Mr. Clemens on Feb 23, 2017, 10:40:14 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Feb 23, 2017, 10:03:23 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 23, 2017, 10:00:52 PM
According to that video Davids are all called David. Just like there was another Bishop in *gulp* ACM.

Or they only spoke to one called David cuz he was special model n was set off to join Weyland. Could probably be giving a robot a name is just to make humans more comfortable.

Yes, ten years have passed. I'd wager at first everybody had a 'David' and after a short time that novelty wore off and everyone started naming their Davids whatever they wanted.

I wonder if in the next film there'll be a David named Gordon!  :D
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Astronoë on Feb 23, 2017, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 23, 2017, 10:04:53 PM
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So, who won the game?

Most likely ended in stalemate.  :laugh:

Maybe they will continue the game when they meet again?  8)
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Scorpio on Feb 24, 2017, 03:34:43 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 18, 2016, 11:51:22 AM
Well yeah, but I guess we never really get to see any of the massively techy areas of that, like the bridge. It's all just corridors.

Yeah, but it's a military ship.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: Marcus9000 on Feb 26, 2017, 04:15:06 PM
Quote from: XENOMORPHOSIS on Oct 30, 2016, 11:15:50 PM
Though bit of a stretch could the name be a reference tribute to Walter Hill one of the producers of the Alien series? Come to think of it does that mean David was named after producer David Giller?

I think Walter is a homage to Walter Hill. I had that thought a few days ago.

I think David is just more of a generic name though (but I could be wrong), as in David (v Goliath etc)


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Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant's New Synthetic
Post by: Marcus9000 on Feb 26, 2017, 04:16:34 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 23, 2017, 10:00:52 PM
According to that video Davids are all called David. Just like there was another Bishop in *gulp* ACM.

Could Walter be an upgrade from the entire David series then? David was David 8. Maybe they started a new line or maybe they allowed David 9s or David 10s to choose their own name?


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Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 02, 2017, 10:19:55 PM
From Covenant set visit by Joblo:

QuoteWalter is a synthetic minus the human traits that David has. He's straight forward and logical like Leonard Nimoy's Mr. Spock.

The Walter model was created by the company after the "too human" David model from Prometheus freaked them out.

Walter is a very efficient Butler/Bodyguard/Technician. He's solely there for the purpose of the ship and the crew. There are no complications in his programming like we've seen with Androids in other ALIEN films. He's like Bishop from ALIENS but with less human traits.

Walter can appreciate emotion but it doesn't come into his world of thinking.

David sees Walter as
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his kin, perhaps a student or a younger brother.
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Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Evanus on Mar 02, 2017, 10:21:32 PM
That's weird. The leaks said
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David doesn't like Walter, if I remember correctly.
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Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Ingwar on Mar 02, 2017, 10:30:01 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Mar 02, 2017, 10:21:32 PM
That's weird. The leaks said
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David doesn't like Walter, if I remember correctly.
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Spoiler
Walter doesn't like David.
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Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Evanus on Mar 02, 2017, 11:34:18 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Mar 02, 2017, 10:30:01 PM
Quote from: Evanus on Mar 02, 2017, 10:21:32 PM
That's weird. The leaks said
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David doesn't like Walter, if I remember correctly.
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Spoiler
Walter doesn't like David.
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Ah, I suppose you're right. That makes more sense.
Title: Re: Introducing Walter, Alien: Covenant’s New Synthetic
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 03, 2017, 11:25:49 AM
Aye, that's correct.

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Walter is weary of David because he's been online so long without maintenance.
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