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Title: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 29, 2016, 06:05:47 AM

Noomi Rapace and Michael Fassbender aren’t Alien: Covenant’s only returning actors from Prometheus. Alien vs. Predator Galaxy can exclusively reveal that Guy Pearce will be returning to appear in Alien: Covenant! Beware following story spoilers!

We have learnt that Guy Pearce will be reprising his role as a slightly younger Peter Weyland during the film’s opening scenes. The current edit of Alien: Covenant begins with David 8 being brought online in a large white room with a grand view overlooking an ocean.

A younger, but still somewhat aged, Weyland asks David various questions to test him. We eventually move to David performing Richard Wagner’s Entrance of the Gods into Valhalla, explaining the meaning of the piece as he plays.

Alien vs. Predator Galaxy can exclusively reveal that Guy Pearce will be returning to portray Peter Weyland once again in Alien: Covenant!

Alien vs. Predator Galaxy can exclusively reveal that Guy Pearce will be returning to portray Peter Weyland once again in Alien: Covenant!

David explains that it is about God’s abandoning their creations due their displeasure with their creation’s greed and vanity, only to realise that the Gods themselves sharing the same flaws. This leads to David and Peter discussing Gods and creations and human mortality which strikes a chord with Weyland (a tip of the hat to his motivation in Prometheus).

Guy Pearce previously spoke about returning to play Weyland again back in 2014, saying how much he would like to return to Weyland and to work with Ridley again: I'd love to go back and play that character again. To work for Ridley again, you know, he's great — really wonderful to work for. So yeah, I'm very curious to see what he will do next with it."

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Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: The Alien Predator on Oct 29, 2016, 06:39:35 AM
Very interesting, I am excited to see this scene.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: sugarhigh on Oct 29, 2016, 06:42:29 AM
For f**ks sake...
Why bring him back? His role was lame in Prometheus, his aged makeup was terrible. Covenant could actually end up just as bad if not worse than Prometheus. 
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 29, 2016, 06:49:01 AM
Only one conclusion to draw from this. Weyland is alive. :P HAHA

btw: the forum link at the end of the post takes you to the Predator 2018 forum.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien:...
Post by: locusta on Oct 29, 2016, 06:51:41 AM
Beside, that we actually know by now nothing about the film, I have to say, that this scene at least tries to explain David´s megalomaniac flaw, or better said, his way to overdo human morality and ethnic standards, as his creator, Weyland is heavily flawed and far from being an altruist and philanthropist. 


And for the folks, who wonder why Wehland is back in this movie, it is a flashback scene in David´s thoughts , most likely blending over to him standing in his studio amongst his creations. 
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: The Bonus Situation on Oct 29, 2016, 07:00:05 AM
Started reading about David waking up in the room, but then just stopped. There is one thing looking at leaked pics  of a set or a prop, but reading such a detailed description of a scene is just TOO much for me. Gonna wait for the film.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: jdxmoore on Oct 29, 2016, 07:01:11 AM
Wow so much information being leaked recently. At this rate there will be no surprises left by next August.

Wish they'd get a better control of things at Fox. Finding it very hard not to look at these articles as I loved Prometheus and can't wait to see covenant.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Stolen on Oct 29, 2016, 07:31:11 AM
The description of the scene is very interesting, I like the idea. But I will stop reading the scoops of AVP. Our friend Corporal obviously knows a lot of the film ;D
Now I prefer to wait for the teaser
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Necronomicon II on Oct 29, 2016, 07:47:12 AM
More and more this film is sounding like everything Prometheus should have been.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: BonesawT101 on Oct 29, 2016, 07:49:52 AM
Quote from: Stolen on Oct 29, 2016, 07:31:11 AM
The description of the scene is very interesting, I like the idea. But I will stop reading the scoops of AVP. Our friend Corporal obviously knows a lot of the film ;D
Now I prefer to wait for the teaser
The teaser must be imminent at this point.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Scorpio on Oct 29, 2016, 09:10:52 AM
Guy Pearce is great in everything.  Not surprised he's in it, since it was filmed in Australia.  Anyone else think Weyland sounds like a British Agent Smith?
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 29, 2016, 09:19:47 AM
Wouldn't it be amazing if David misses his creator. I mean there's no reason they didn't commandeer Weylands corpse from the juggernaut. Maybe he's trying to resurrect Weyland instead of torturing Shaw. Hell what if he pulls it off and resurrects Weyland from the dead. I mean that would be a f**king twist. Of course the secret is hiding inside of the Alien's dna.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Olde on Oct 29, 2016, 09:57:29 AM
What on Earth is an "AvPGalast Appeaxy Exclusive"? Typo? A name I don't get?
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: lv_226 on Oct 29, 2016, 10:44:06 AM
This is amazing news! It would appear that the writers who worked on Covenant, alongside Ridley Scott, maintained the philosophical ideas introduced—albeit briefly—in Prometheus. Weyland's character in the TED promo was genius, and unfortunately the execution for his motivations in Prometheus felt a bit understated.

Prometheus attempted to tackle some of the same ideas present in Blade Runner: namely those dealing with existential philosophy and human mortality. I am SUPER PUMPED that these ideas will be making a return in Covenant. Hopefully the fleshing out of these ideas, through David, will create a thematic bridge between what was attempted in Prometheus and what will be attempted in Covenant. The concept of God and his displeasure with his creation is a challenging one that is seldom tackled in film—here clearly under the purview of science fiction and fantasy. The Weyland character was clearly inspired by the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche (the full TED piece shows him reciting lines from 'Thus Spoke Zarathustra'), and the playing of Wagner reinforces connection this yet again (Wagner and Nietzsche were very close friends until the dissolution of their friendship).

I absolutely love the idea of David being booted up in this fashion; a start-up sequence of some sort, if you will. Perhaps David is an extension of Weyland. Perhaps this is a clever way of extending that character into Covenant (David did resemble Weyland in some ways). Either way, I can't wait for this movie to come out!
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Enoch on Oct 29, 2016, 11:51:05 AM
My God... this is something I have waited for log time.
Excellent. Thanks Hicks. This made my day ;D


P.S. Hicks, how do you know this much?
Hope Covenant will have more surprises for us...
There has been many leaks lately
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: SiL on Oct 29, 2016, 12:07:51 PM
... is that what that piece is about? Das Rheingold is suiting, cos it's a sort of Prometheus-like tale, but I don't remember that piece being about the Gods abandoning their subjects.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Look into my eye on Oct 29, 2016, 12:32:14 PM
Good news but I'm more intrigued on how they weave Shaw into this story. It's going to be very interesting to see what they do with it but I've got a feeling it's not going to end well for her. :-[
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Stolen on Oct 29, 2016, 12:51:36 PM
If the opening scene concerns Weyland. This means that Shaw will be back only later in the film. Either in a flashback, or for a surprise.

Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Glaive on Oct 29, 2016, 01:01:46 PM
Quote from: Stolen on Oct 29, 2016, 12:51:36 PM
If the opening scene concerns Weyland. This means that Shaw will be back only later in the film. Either in a flashback, or for a surprise.

She might be being used in much the same way Gibson's Alien III script used Ripley...
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Necronomicon II on Oct 29, 2016, 02:37:43 PM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 29, 2016, 12:07:51 PM
... is that what that piece is about? Das Rheingold is suiting, cos it's a sort of Prometheus-like tale, but I don't remember that piece being about the Gods abandoning their subjects.

It's interesting...since Das Rheingold is one of the four music dramas, in the second "Die Walküre", Wotan forsakes his only son Siegmund and has him killed.
Wotan is pretty much a prick spanning generations since he only really wants the magic ring, Wotan's daughter Brünnhilde is punished for defying her father in trying to save Siegmund, having her immortality taken from her, and if I recall correctly, later I think she ends up committing suicide with her horse at Siegfried's pyre; Siegfried was Wotan's grandson, slain by Hagen over that damn ring as well.
It all ending in Götterdämmerung with the Gods and Heroes all dying in flames.
I just think David is looking at it from that angle, in a sense Wotan abandoned his children in his pursuit to regain the magic ring.   
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Oct 29, 2016, 02:48:43 PM
lol you guys are too funny.

"Give us info! It's been too long since we've been given anything!"

*five pictures leak, and AvPGalaxy gives you an opening scene scoop*

"Heyyyy! Stop that! That's too much!!!"

Maybe don't click and don't read, folks? ;)
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Glaive on Oct 29, 2016, 02:50:44 PM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 29, 2016, 02:48:43 PM
lol you guys are too funny.

"Give us info! It's been too long since we've been given anything!"

*five pictures leak, and AvPGalaxy gives you an opening scene scoop*

"Heyyyy! Stop that! That's too much!!!"

Maybe don't click and don't read, folks? ;)

...or in my case...

'Right-click, save picture as...'
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Oct 29, 2016, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: Stolen on Oct 29, 2016, 07:31:11 AM
The description of the scene is very interesting, I like the idea. But I will stop reading the scoops of AVP. Our friend Corporal obviously knows a lot of the film ;D

My secret insider sauce tells me Fox and friends have sent a hit squad after him. Hope he can finally put those aerosofting skills to good use.

Quote from: BonesawT101 on Oct 29, 2016, 07:49:52 AM
The teaser must be imminent at this point.

Why would a teaser be imminent just because of a few leaks?  ???

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 29, 2016, 02:48:43 PM
lol you guys are too funny.

"Give us info! It's been too long since we've been given anything!"

*five pictures leak, and AvPGalaxy gives you an opening scene scoop*

"Heyyyy! Stop that! That's too much!!!"

Maybe don't click and don't read, folks? ;)

Enough with this common sense please!  >:(
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: BonesawT101 on Oct 29, 2016, 03:22:38 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 29, 2016, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: Stolen on Oct 29, 2016, 07:31:11 AM
The description of the scene is very interesting, I like the idea. But I will stop reading the scoops of AVP. Our friend Corporal obviously knows a lot of the film ;D

My secret insider sauce tells me Fox and friends have sent a hit squad after him. Hope he can finally put those aerosofting skills to good use.

Quote from: BonesawT101 on Oct 29, 2016, 07:49:52 AM
The teaser must be imminent at this point.

Why would a teaser be imminent just because of a few leaks?  ???

Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Oct 29, 2016, 02:48:43 PM
lol you guys are too funny.

"Give us info! It's been too long since we've been given anything!"

*five pictures leak, and AvPGalaxy gives you an opening scene scoop*

"Heyyyy! Stop that! That's too much!!!"

Maybe don't click and don't read, folks? ;)

Enough with this common sense please!  >:(
Not imminent due to the leaks, but the latest bit of info described a scene from a current edit of the film. So if the film has a work print edited together, plus a few months of post already behind it, then surely a simple teaser must be imminent.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Enoch on Oct 29, 2016, 03:24:13 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 29, 2016, 03:16:41 PM

My secret insider sauce tells me Fox and friends have sent a hit squad after him. Hope he can finally put those aerosofting skills to good use.


(https://media.giphy.com/media/lF5bH6enH9F1m/giphy.gif)
;D
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Ultramorph on Oct 29, 2016, 03:40:59 PM
This is pretty cool, I'm for anything that builds the characters, especially David and his motivations. Here's hoping a teaser comes along soon!
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: The Alien Predator on Oct 29, 2016, 04:37:09 PM
Quote from: Olde on Oct 29, 2016, 09:57:29 AM
What on Earth is an "AvPGalast Appeaxy Exclusive"? Typo? A name I don't get?

So I'm not the only one that noticed this?  :laugh:

Maybe Hicks was so darn excited that spelling and grammar flew out the window.  ;D
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Glaive on Oct 29, 2016, 04:47:41 PM
Quote from: Olde on Oct 29, 2016, 09:57:29 AM
What on Earth is an "AvPGalast Appeaxy Exclusive"? Typo? A name I don't get?

You were too slow...FOX shut that down faster than the 5 pics!!
You'll have to wait for the premiere...
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 29, 2016, 05:04:40 PM
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Oct 29, 2016, 04:37:09 PM
Quote from: Olde on Oct 29, 2016, 09:57:29 AM
What on Earth is an "AvPGalast Appeaxy Exclusive"? Typo? A name I don't get?

So I'm not the only one that noticed this?  :laugh:

Maybe Hicks was so darn excited that spelling and grammar flew out the window.  ;D

f**k sake. It was the spoiler free title thing that I f**ked up when renaming it.  :laugh: I fixed that this morning. Thankfully it was only an issue for the forum link!

Quote from: Enoch on Oct 29, 2016, 03:24:13 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Oct 29, 2016, 03:16:41 PM

My secret insider sauce tells me Fox and friends have sent a hit squad after him. Hope he can finally put those aerosofting skills to good use.


(https://media.giphy.com/media/lF5bH6enH9F1m/giphy.gif)
;D

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvignette3.wikia.nocookie.net%2Favp%2Fimages%2F7%2F79%2FDead_Hicks_Alien3.jpg%2Frevision%2Flatest%3Fcb%3D20100320040416&hash=58ecae35b5bd0c95a4088501e52151975a83432a)
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Glaive on Oct 29, 2016, 05:27:40 PM
Let me be the first to say...OUCH!!! ;D
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: BonesawT101 on Oct 29, 2016, 06:10:43 PM
I always like to give credit where it's due, so thanks for yet another exclusive scoop Hicks!  8)
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Morose on Oct 29, 2016, 06:57:02 PM
It will be fun to see Guy Pierce again! I had written a Paradise and I featured 4 David dream sequences where Peter Weyland was in them. Whether this intro is a dream sequence or something more like a TED talk is to be determined.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Oct 29, 2016, 07:02:55 PM
Ha!  I called it years ago that we would once again see a young Peter Weyland.  I wonder if we will see a resurrected young Peter Weyland at some point in the future.  Perhaps that is David's mission?
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Enoch on Oct 29, 2016, 07:10:48 PM
Alien:
THE RESURRECTION OF
WEYLAND

:P
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Morose on Oct 29, 2016, 07:11:14 PM
Perfect Organism: "I wonder if we will see a resurrected young Peter Weyland at some point in the future. Perhaps that is David's mission?"

The only way David could resurrect Peter is either through using his blood or time travel. However I feel that it is best to just have Peter come back as dreams or flashbacks. Maybe an android Peter would be interesting.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 29, 2016, 07:13:00 PM
I think the flashbacks or dreams are perfect enough. I'd hate to see them do time travel or some accelerant zombie or some such.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: hfeldhaus on Oct 29, 2016, 07:33:53 PM
Weyland could very easily be programmed into David. Would be cool to see some form of interaction with Weyland in real time.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Oct 29, 2016, 07:49:31 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 29, 2016, 05:04:40 PM
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/7/79/Dead_Hicks_Alien3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100320040416

Don't worry, Blomkamp will be bringing you back.

Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Enoch on Oct 29, 2016, 07:59:23 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 29, 2016, 07:13:00 PM
I think the flashbacks or dreams are perfect enough. I'd hate to see them do time travel or some accelerant zombie or some such.

Remember what Wayne said, NO TIME TRAVEL :laugh: ;D
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Infected on Oct 29, 2016, 08:14:52 PM
Maybe it will only be viral material and later bonus on Blu Ray.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Glaive on Oct 29, 2016, 08:32:19 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 29, 2016, 07:02:55 PM
Ha!  I called it years ago that we would once again see a young Peter Weyland.  I wonder if we will see a resurrected young Peter Weyland at some point in the future.  Perhaps that is David's mission?

Ash..."You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you?...'Perfect Organism'...Its structural obfuscation is matched only by its banality.  I admire its simplicity. A survivor... unclouded by logic, common-sense, or delusions of reality. "

j/k Jaime...
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Oct 29, 2016, 08:33:23 PM
Such a shame the Weyland character was wasted in Prometheus. If you ask me, a Weyland should've been the lead or at least have a substantial role.

Hopefully in this new trilogy Weyland will be popping up in all three. And the films will have Weyland viral marketing.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien:...
Post by: Glaive on Oct 29, 2016, 08:39:25 PM
I'm waiting for the prequel prequel...!! :D
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Enoch on Oct 29, 2016, 08:41:26 PM
Weyland is the main representative of human fallen nature.
I myself would use him in flashback... maybe like in Bergmans films
Weyland and David playing chess (death allegory) in some great room filled with art and symbols of human achievents throughout history;  they would speak about god, creation, life, existance, universe, their aspirations  but through that dialog they would show their inner characters to the audience. Thats the only meaningful reason to show us Wayland again,
because he will show us that bad side of humanity, but also the nature well hidden
in Davids memory ;D
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Glaive on Oct 29, 2016, 08:43:52 PM
Take it you're not watching 'Westworld', then... ;)
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Enoch on Oct 29, 2016, 08:48:21 PM
Quote from: Glaive on Oct 29, 2016, 08:43:52 PM
Take it you're not watching 'Westworld', then... ;)

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F66.media.tumblr.com%2Ff207d0c846f4846826c0a19b5ccadb10%2Ftumblr_inline_nok71rXFtl1rgl8gu_500.gif&hash=3d341cbf4639483dfa5e6c808a8e826cfdda4f01)

I m watching Westworld... there are some nice ideas I like.
I like stories about robots and philosophical exploration of their nature,
but more so the nature of their creators.  ;D
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Glaive on Oct 29, 2016, 08:52:10 PM
Just sayin'...
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: CainsSon on Oct 30, 2016, 12:26:54 AM
It could be really cool if this film opened with a scene similar to the opening of PROMETHEUS with the Engineers seeding life with the goo, only this time its Weyland and the goo is white and brings David 8 to life. They could even use the same close ups of the goo infusing within the veins of David instead of the Engineer and then the TITLE appears.
As for Weyland and David - maybe WEYLAN survived?! Maybe Shaw put david's head on Weyland's body? Maybe David is trying to put his head on Weyland's body?

Well David's been programmed to give WEYLAND immortality, no?

OMG you guys Weyland is the one in the Pilot Suit in ALIEN, it's sooo obvious now.  ;)
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien:...
Post by: windebieste on Oct 30, 2016, 12:43:26 AM
Quote from: Infected on Oct 29, 2016, 08:14:52 PM
Maybe it will only be viral material and later bonus on Blu Ray.

Yeah.  This is my thoughts as well.  Like the 2023 Ted Talk we got for 'PROMETHEUS' where the younger Weyland presented some of the themes that were present in the movie but not really integral to the story or plot.  I'd say we'll see this younger Weyland once again, discussing the virtues of his new android technology in viral marketing format, essentially, a sequence thematically related to the content of the movie but existing completely outside the scope and framework of the movie itself.

-Windebieste. 
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: BringbackJonesy! on Oct 30, 2016, 03:30:21 AM
Out of all the recent news concerning ALIEN:COVENANT (be it a glimpse of young, deformed  'neomorphs', or a bust of an 'adult' deformed head, or the new 'eggs', or the new 'facehugger)...one of the things that I'm most pleased about is the fact that Guy Pearce looks likely to actually appear in the movie without the 'old Weyland' makeup this time around!  ;D

For a long time, there was no guarantee that Noomi's character would make any sort of appearance in this follow-up, and the fact that Pearce is back too (however briefly), is great news to me - whether either of them are seen in a 'flashback', or 'holographic recording', or 'memory implant'...or any other scenario even.  And the description of 'young' Weyland's possible involvement with 'switching' on 'David 8' at the start of the movie sounds excellent.

While it remains quite a re-watchable movie for me due to certain things,I'll always despair about certain badly-judged moments that litter PROMETHEUS - one of them being the lack of any 'young Weyland' footage being incorporated into the movie to offset the 'old makeup' that Guy Pearce ended up wearing throughout!

I'm so pleased that audiences will finally get a glimpse of Guy's 'younger' self onscreen this time around, considering how good he was in the excellent 'viral clip' that Ridley's son (Luke Scott) filmed.

I've always wished that even some of that footage had been incorporated into the movie in some way (even as a 'flashback' or showing on one of the ship's screens, for instance), as it would have really added some extra gravitas about his character to the proceedings. 

Although I have a differently-edited version of my own in mind sometime, I only re-watch agent9's 'Special Edition' version these days...due to it including a lot of the deleted scenes I like - especially the 'young Weyland' TEDTalk sequence to kick things off.

I'm so glad that ALIEN:COVENANT will finally feature Guy as he actually looks...but I'll always stick with a version of the original movie which opens with his monologue included, to juxtapose with his 'older' appearance later on - in fact, while I lay a lot of the blame about certain aspects of PROMETHEUS on Damon Lindelof, it seems that he was instrumental in devising that whole sequence...so thanks for that.  And well done Luke Scott.  I only wish that the makers had included some of it in the actual movie to begin with.

Here's a good link about what Lindelof had to say about that whole scene - blog.ted.com/writing-a-tedtalk-from-the-future-q-a-with-damon-lindelof/






oops, that TEDTalk link was wrong, it should have been this - blog.ted.com/writing-a-tedtalk-from-thefuture-q-a-with-damon-lindelof/


Hmmm, turns out I'd typed that TEDTalk article link correctly the first time - not sure why it won't link directly, so just re-type my first attempt yourselves, if interested.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: HailWeyland on Oct 30, 2016, 07:29:08 PM
An obvious conclusion:
We... are the GODS now!
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Oct 31, 2016, 07:33:57 AM
Quote from: Morose on Oct 29, 2016, 07:11:14 PM
Perfect Organism: "I wonder if we will see a resurrected young Peter Weyland at some point in the future. Perhaps that is David's mission?"

The only way David could resurrect Peter is either through using his blood or time travel. However I feel that it is best to just have Peter come back as dreams or flashbacks. Maybe an android Peter would be interesting.

I'm not saying it would be a good idea, but one of the themes of Prometheus was the idea of eternal life.  That is what Weyland was looking for.  You don't need time travel or blood samples to do something interesting with that.  Maybe the Engineers have some other goo that brings dead things back to life?  It would verge on cheesy, but if done well, I could imagine a young Weyland rising up from where the old Weyland died, but then eventually changing into something hideous..
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 31, 2016, 09:24:17 AM
Gah, I really need to stop going away at weekends, I miss all the news! :P
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Necronomicon II on Oct 31, 2016, 09:57:52 AM
Nah keep going away on weekends so there's more news  :P
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: motherfather on Oct 31, 2016, 10:37:19 AM
When I read the title I was worried it was a bit of Prometheus material / online material edited out of Prometheus that has been slapped onto the beginning of Covenant.

Who knows?

I think Fassbenders acting did all the explaining we need why David is like he is, so I'd rather see the screen time used for something else.

Was it 10 mins or so that was squandered on the elders/engineers sequence in Prometheus? I would have liked more of a Shaw going for funding backstory and assembling the crew.The underwater sequence with splitting cells etc... that looked too computer generated, took us away from the movie and I think that whole "message" could have been conveyed quicker

Its good that they keep with tradition in covenant and we have the Weyland link - lets face it - the whole franchise is intertwined with Weyland corp. I just don't think David needs any more explaining at this point than Ash did.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: markweatherill on Oct 31, 2016, 12:48:35 PM
Sounds like a candidate for a deleted scene once they start trimming the movie down for running time.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: lv_226 on Oct 31, 2016, 01:07:01 PM
Quote from: markweatherill on Oct 31, 2016, 12:48:35 PM
Sounds like a candidate for a deleted scene once they start trimming the movie down for running time.

God, I hope not...
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: itshouldneverhavebeenabug on Nov 01, 2016, 10:00:59 AM
Love this news. There's a rehash of Prometheus first 30 mins on youtube that fits this in, and that I thought was so much better and made so much more sense. I must say after seeing this rehash, I was able to finally start to like it. Shame that they haven't done it for the whole film. More younger Guy Pearce please, I loved this strong Weyland in prime of life.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 01, 2016, 10:03:59 AM
Quote from: itshouldneverhavebeenabug on Nov 01, 2016, 10:00:59 AM
Love this news. There's a rehash of Prometheus first 30 mins on youtube that fits this in, and that I thought was so much better and made so much more sense. I must say after seeing this rehash, I was able to finally start to like it. Shame that they haven't done it for the whole film. More younger Guy Pearce please, I loved this strong Weyland in prime of life.

Do you have a link?
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 01, 2016, 10:26:36 AM
Yeah, I'd be interested in that. I always thoguht the young Weyland idea was cut before they even filmed it.

Or are you referring to the TED 2023 promo film?
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: itshouldneverhavebeenabug on Nov 01, 2016, 03:28:52 PM
Here it is Hicks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHUhjTo16i8 first 20 mins, but still I LOVE this start. Add in more dialogue like Janek and Vickers cut scene and its far more like the movie I wanted.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: itshouldneverhavebeenabug on Nov 01, 2016, 03:33:17 PM
Hi HuDaFuK, yes and it's extended by a few mins in this cut with stuff I had never seen from the TED talk. Didn't realise there was a longer version of the TED talk.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien:...
Post by: TheBATMAN on Nov 01, 2016, 03:48:53 PM
It's such a shame the TED talk was never shot for the movie. There's a fan edit out there similar to this but with an added shot of old Weyland watching Shaw's transmission from his office on Mars. It was really well done.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: itshouldneverhavebeenabug on Nov 01, 2016, 04:05:35 PM
TheBATMAN: "added shot of old Weyland watching Shaw's transmission from his office on Mars." Please post a link, I'd love to see that!
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 03, 2016, 01:47:20 PM
Quote from: itshouldneverhavebeenabug on Nov 01, 2016, 03:28:52 PM
Here it is Hicks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHUhjTo16i8 first 20 mins, but still I LOVE this start. Add in more dialogue like Janek and Vickers cut scene and its far more like the movie I wanted.

Thanks for sharing, bug (get registered already!) Love the extended version of the TED talk but not keen on it and the Quiet Eye being put into the film. Just doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Nov 03, 2016, 02:54:58 PM
The only flaw is that Weyland misuses the logical fallacy "begs the question" lol.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: SamuelDL on Nov 18, 2016, 07:03:44 AM
Great news! Because although he did not convince me as an old man, in the TED talk it seemed sensational. That starts with David looks very promising.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: CainsSon on Nov 23, 2016, 06:52:23 AM
Of course this also means its not entirely unlikely that VICKERS will also make a cameo.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: motherfather on Nov 23, 2016, 08:06:18 AM
I was thinking about that too. Id rather not have her if she is just another cash-syphoning expensive cameo. Theron can act when she puts her mind to it. Either it was the script (most likely) or her performance, but she was a waste of space in Prometheus. That role could have been sooo much more and could have easily eclipsed David's. Id rather not have her back unless she has a meaningful role and puts her acting chops behind it. Not that I have a choice anyway...

(Im not against Theron, but her role needs to add deep rooted non-superficial value, not just be thrown in there as a tacky cameo)
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 23, 2016, 08:14:09 AM
I think Guy Pearce and Weyland has more presence. Granted, it was only really in the TED viral that he stood out but everyone talks about that viral and knows it, so I think there's still some appetite to have him back. I can't say I'd really be interested in Vickers coming back.


QuoteLRM: I think the last time we spoke was for "Prometheus" and I thought this new movie was going to be sequel, but I also didn't think you or your character Peter Weyland would be in it What can you say about that? Are you just doing more promos as Peter Weyland for the movie?

Guy Pearce: I can't give it away. (laughs)

LRM: So far, nothing I've seen from the movie makes it seem like a sequel to "Prometheus" but you're one of the few returning actors...

Guy Pearce: Yeah, well, I'm not sure how to answer that without giving too much away. (laughs) Just that I'm involved somehow.

See more at: http://lrmonline.com/news/brimstone-guy-pearce-on-the-dark-western#sthash.Jn1RpCL0.dpuf
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: BishopShouldGo on Mar 07, 2017, 05:55:17 PM
Perfectly ok with Guy making appearances in every new Alien film. Really will never understand though why a WEYLAND was never a main character though.
Title: Re: AvPGalaxy Exclusive: Guy Pearce Returns for Alien: Covenant!
Post by: Marcus9000 on Mar 07, 2017, 11:44:23 PM
Guy Pearce is a good actor. He's come a long way since Mike in Neighbours!

Was Weyland evil? I don't think so. Just a Titan of his age and a man who wanted everything.

I quite liked the TED talk also.

Would love it if Ridley cut together a longer version of Prometheus as for an epic film it is quite short. A film with so many ideas and scope deserves a 2.5-3 hour version.


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