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New Alien: Covenant set photos reveal extraterrestrial massacre! The Daily Mail website has just uploaded a number of pictures taken at a quarry in Sydney. They show what appears to be the aftermath of a massacre. There appears to be a mix of scorched, as if petrified, humanoids (possibly Engineers themselves?) and aliens, not the capital A variety, locked in their death throes.

“These are the incredible photos taken from the set of upcoming sci-fi blockbuster Alien: Covenant, which is being filmed at an undisclosed location in Sydney, Australia.

The pictures were snapped at a quarry in the New South Wales capital on Thursday and show dramatic scenes of scorched human bodies twisted in despair and some being attacked by extra-terrestrial beings, similar to those from the Alien film series.

Directed by Oscar-nominated Sir Ridley Scott, the long-awaited sequel to 2012’s Prometheus appeared to be coming along nicely Down Under as production staff were shown against the backdrop of a grand, otherworldly set piece featuring huge blocks of charred stone and mysterious hieroglyphs.

One heart-stopping image shows around two dozen ashen human forms which are eerily frozen in moments of panic and horror as they desperately clamber up a set of steps.

In another shot taken from a greater distance, there is a more complete view of the set which features three tall stone slabs which obscure the greenery and car park behind. 

Against the industrial background of the quarry, the set of Alien: Covenant (previously known as Prometheus 2) also features some remarkable aged stone edifices which are engraved with hieroglyph-like writing.

Reflecting a haunting dystopia or end-of-civilisation scenario, several huge monuments appear toppled and strewn across the dry landscape and a tremendously large stone structure of a man’s face is left cracked and half-decapitated.

Juxtaposed next to the modern film machinery – including a large red and white crane, barricade tape and several work vehicles – the unfamiliar set and perfectly still human forms look disturbing and out-of-place.

Elsewhere, a series of huge, tree-like stumps were shown growing out of a barren rocky landscape – and the sheer scope of the design was highlighted by a solitary crew member.”

Several pictures reveal a connection to the Engineer culture, showing the broken remnants of an Engineer monument (as seen in Prometheus and previously pictured at Fox’s Syndey Studios) and Engineer hieroglyphs:

Is this Paradise or are we seeing another world that the Engineers once shepherded over? Perhaps this is the aftermath of an Engineer experiment gone wrong? What is your take on these latest pictures?

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So, David was really busy to avenge on the Engineers?

I have a feeling this might be some sort of flashback or recording of some variety, showing some failed experiment of the Engineers.

Incredible sets   :o :o

There is so much going on here.

I am glad that they kept some consistencies with Prometheus like the pseudo-cuneiform language on their architecture, and obviously the large Engineer head. I can't help but assume some similarities with the latter film as well as the concept of an "end of civilization event" mirrors the Engineer facility's fate. The alien/humanoid figures look very much like the very early concept art of the Engineers (tall, slender) before the film was fashioned into Prometheus (larger, more muscular). I would be glad if they were able to work some of that terrific art into the new film as the pre-production of Prometheus afforded it some very wonderful ideas, IMO. The planet surface seems to be completely decimated, at least from what is shown, I wonder if the catastrophe was *cough* engineered *cough* or if their civilization fell as a result of a natural cataclysm (these images remind me a lot of photographs I have seen of the tragedy at Pompeii and how the bodies are frozen into place).

Thank you Corporal for the scoop!

well it does look creepy

Incredible. :( :o :o

What are the chances that this movie is going to end up with the plot similar to the second AVP movie?  :laugh:

Well, THAT certainly bumps my expectations for this film...Very 'Paradise Lost'...

The question being...what are these 'humans' struggling to get to /supplicate?

Firstly I think it would be good to start getting spoiler warnings before the main images on the main page, as much as I think it's not a huge deal this time I'd hate to check the site and get a full monster reveal. Just my 2c.

On the pictures, I'd say it looks like an engineer wipe out scenario - i.e. what they were planning on doing to Earth. Looks like the human-like people were running to a temple for safety, and the big engineer head would suggest that they worshipped them. Also the way they died suggests some cemical attack or heat i.e. if it was Aliens which attacked they would all be ripped apart. Fits in nicely with the bio warfare theme.

I think what the crew will find is a world which has been started and then later wiped out. I don't believe these are the engineers themselves we are seeing. Which could suggest they will visit more than one planet.

i see no xenos

Quote from: Xenoscream on May 20, 2016, 10:19:38 AM
Firstly I think it would be good to start getting spoiler warnings before the main images on the main page, as much as I think it's not a huge deal this time I'd hate to check the site and get a full monster reveal. Just my 2c.

Sorry to just pick this one out to reply to right now but this came up in relation to the old set pictures. AvP Galaxy has and will continue to be a site that has reported on and posted spoilers straight up on its front page. That's what most people come here for.

People complained in relation to those spoilers being posted on the social media platforms (because they were more casual fans). It was decided at that time that the front page would remain a spoiler-zone but we implemented certain features to cover that on social media (and the forum's headlines box).

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Quote from: szkoki on May 20, 2016, 10:23:27 AM
i see no xenos

There aren't any. They're something else.

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Quote from: Xenoscream on May 20, 2016, 10:19:38 AM
I think what the crew will find is a world which has been started and then later wiped out. I don't believe these are the engineers themselves we are seeing. Which could suggest they will visit more than one planet.

This is what leads me to believe it'll be a recording or flashback of some variety. I don't think the main characters will be travelling to some other planet but it maybe something David (or the crew) find and watch.

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Quote from: lv_226 on May 20, 2016, 09:54:48 AM
Thank you Corporal for the scoop!

It's my job to serve you guys!

Those pics have a Pompeii feeling to them.

Nice sets, i think this movie will be significantly bigger than i imagined. I just hope we will see the actual Aliens this time, the creatures in Prometheus were pretty lame, it's like watching Jaws without the shark, not satisfying to me.

Quote from: Johnny Handsome on May 20, 2016, 10:44:34 AM
Nice sets, i think this movie will be significantly bigger than i imagined. I just hope we will see the actual Aliens this time, the creatures in Prometheus were pretty lame, it's like watching Jaws without the shark, not satisfying to me.

Me too, Johnny. Though I do love the idea of some other potential alien civilization! I think that's what excites me most about these images.

the engineer struggling with the deacon looking thing looks funny and interesting two big dudes hitting it off, they probably died during the eruption of that lava mountain thing and they are stoned for life.

Did you mean this one?

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Crispy.

Nice sets.  Wish they were more Gigeresque.

http://www.vcpost.com/articles/84490/20150814/prometheus-2-hell-earth-update-script-finished-will-start-filming.htm (http://www.vcpost.com/articles/84490/20150814/prometheus-2-hell-earth-update-script-finished-will-start-filming.htm)

All this photos confirmed this story about Alien Covenant (Hell on Earth). Its changed (rewriten :))... and movie probably isnt set on Earth or in Paradise but on some planet with humanoids same as humans! Its obvious they worshiped Engineers, we can see full statues of them!

August 14, 2015

QuoteDirector of 'Predator' Nimrod Antal revealed that the upcoming 'Prometheus 2: Hell on Earth' will be just a part of a trilogy, so it seems that Ridley Scott also has 'Prometheus 3' in mind. The upcoming 'Prometheus 2: Hell on Earth' is said to have 2 other types of alien species that will resemble the Xenomorphs. It will reveal that the 'Engineers' are actually controlled by one entity.

Quote...there are new rumors arising that the 'Engineers' are actually controlled by one super power which will be revealed in 'Prometheus 2: Hell on Earth'.

QuoteWhilst 'Prometheus 2: Hell on Earth' will focus on Earth, the third Prometheus will focus on Dr. Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) and David (Michael Fassbender)'s search for the planet of the 'Engineers.' The planet is called, "Paradise."

So we ll have David in Covenant, but Shaw is missing. Maybe the third one will be a story before Covenant that will connect with Covenant and Alien...?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/prometheus-2/plot-cast-rumours-spoilers/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/prometheus-2/plot-cast-rumours-spoilers/)

Wow... this is beginning to look exceedingly grim.  I'm so glad Scott is taking this movie into meaty uncompromising places.  This series really needs a kick in the pants.  It's beginning to look like Scott thinks so, too.

Yeah, it does have that Pompeii vibe to it, doesn't it? 

-Windebieste.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 20, 2016, 11:00:04 AM
Did you mean this one?

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Yes, couldnt get the link right. :D

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Quote from: Enoch on May 20, 2016, 11:29:09 AM
http://www.vcpost.com/articles/84490/20150814/prometheus-2-hell-earth-update-script-finished-will-start-filming.htm (http://www.vcpost.com/articles/84490/20150814/prometheus-2-hell-earth-update-script-finished-will-start-filming.htm)

All this photos confirmed this story about Alien Covenant (Hell on Earth). Its changed (rewriten :))... and movie probably isnt set on Earth or in Paradise but on some planet with humanoids same as humans! Its obvious they worshiped Engineers, we can see full statues of them!

August 14, 2015

QuoteDirector of 'Predator' Nimrod Antal revealed that the upcoming 'Prometheus 2: Hell on Earth' will be just a part of a trilogy, so it seems that Ridley Scott also has 'Prometheus 3' in mind. The upcoming 'Prometheus 2: Hell on Earth' is said to have 2 other types of alien species that will resemble the Xenomorphs. It will reveal that the 'Engineers' are actually controlled by one entity.

Quote...there are new rumors arising that the 'Engineers' are actually controlled by one super power which will be revealed in 'Prometheus 2: Hell on Earth'.

QuoteWhilst 'Prometheus 2: Hell on Earth' will focus on Earth, the third Prometheus will focus on Dr. Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) and David (Michael Fassbender)'s search for the planet of the 'Engineers.' The planet is called, "Paradise."

So we ll have David in Covenant, but Shaw is missing. Maybe the third one will be a story before Covenant that will connect with Covenant and Alien...?

This is outdated info, its from august, what year i dont know.
But its called Covenant now.

I wrote the date: August 14, 2015 :P

But there is resemblance... Maybe some of those rumors are true indeed?

Nothing to suggest any of that is accurate. For starters, the film is obviously not set on Earth.

I still think that's hokum. Why would Nimrod Antal even know about Prometheus 2 details let alone be sharing that kind of specific information. He wouldn't.

Damn is there no security in Australia?  :laugh: Wait what am I saying; that's f**king awesome. We even got to see one of the new aliens chomping down on a humanoid figure. These pics are full of awesome. Nice to see they are keeping the giant head thing because that needs an answer. :P

Still looks to be huge dudes vs skinny dudes that get all Pompeii'd in the end.

QuoteThis prompted Scott to have a long discussion with Nimrod Antal (Director of Predators) and Neill Blomkamp (Director of Alien 5) to make sure that there's no interlap between Predators, Prometheus 2 and Alien 5.
According to Venture Capitol Post, Blomkamp has already taken care of the issue, making sure that the two movies do not have contradicting facts or details.

... ???

It's VERY old 'click-bait'...so it's validity is somewhat tenuous...

...in the meantime..(http://5-milton-paradise-lost-granger.jpg)

Quote from: Enoch on May 20, 2016, 12:02:43 PM

QuoteThis prompted Scott to have a long discussion with Nimrod Antal (Director of Predators) and Neill Blomkamp (Director of Alien 5) to make sure that there's no interlap between Predators, Prometheus 2 and Alien 5.
According to Venture Capitol Post, Blomkamp has already taken care of the issue, making sure that the two movies do not have contradicting facts or details.

... ???

Predators was made well before the first Prometheus. And not that Scott cares about the crossover either. He showed that with Weyland.

We shall see... :)

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Quote from: Glaive on May 20, 2016, 12:10:21 PM
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Oh wow, they could add in cgi Angelic Wings later...

Quote from: Xenoscream on May 20, 2016, 10:19:38 AM
Firstly I think it would be good to start getting spoiler warnings before the main images on the main page, as much as I think it's not a huge deal this time I'd hate to check the site and get a full monster reveal. Just my 2c.

I know this has already been addressed, but I'm with you. At least if there were some sort of 'gate' one had to click through to see the spoilers on the front page, that'd help. It's not just the casual fans who don't want this whole movie spoiled for them.

Maybe I'll have to just bookmark the forums and stop visiting the front page altogether.

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on May 20, 2016, 12:16:10 PM
Maybe I'll have to just bookmark the forums and stop visiting the front page altogether.

That would probably be for the best in your situation. There's a headlines box on the top right of the forum so you can still see if there's any new news of interest. Same for just following via Facebook or Twitter.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 20, 2016, 11:00:04 AM
Did you mean this one?

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Broken link

That is quite a disturbing set . Cant wait to see how it turns out on screen

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on May 20, 2016, 12:21:34 PM
Broken link

Fixed.

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oh...WOW!!!

I don't think that's a "Deacon" like creature
What appears to be an elongated head is actually one of their arms.

Hard to say but I think it's just another person at a funny angle, the ridges on the "face" look like a fingers on a hand to me, like the person is using both arms to shield the face and kind of twisting away from the blast and the other guy is trying to drag them away.

I think the way the shadow falls on it along with the positioning of the arms may be fooling people into thinking it's a monster.

I think youre right xenoscream

Wow, I wasn't expecting something this big to come out so early! I strongly doubt those are Engineers. What we're seeing are probably the remains of one of the species the Engineers created and then destroyed. A species that broke the covenant, so to speak.

This gives me a lot of hope that this movie is going in some cool directions.

This movie is going to be very good. :P :laugh:

Quote from: Ultramorph on May 20, 2016, 01:38:41 PM
Wow, I wasn't expecting something this big to come out so early! I strongly doubt those are Engineers. What we're seeing are probably the remains of one of the species the Engineers created and then destroyed. A species that broke the covenant, so to speak.

That's my thoughts as well. I think we're witnessing another culture, one the Engineers helped create, meeting its end.

At first glance, I thought they were all Engineers but they're not tall enough. Yeah, looks like another civilization who worshipped the Engineers and were wiped out. If they were incinerated, why didn't it just burn their bodies to ash? I mean, some of them are still stood up and grappling with eachother.

Result of some weapon maybe? One of the first comparisons that sprang to mind was Pompeii.

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Are those actual bodies? They look like statues.

Notice the Engineer hieroglyphs from Prometheus on the wall?

If this is one of the Engineers' seeded planets, these people seem much more entwined with Engineer culture than earthlings.

Perhaps there are Engineers actually there OVERSEEING this civilization?

Quote from: Giger Beast on May 20, 2016, 02:18:32 PM
Notice the Engineer hieroglyphs from Prometheus on the wall?

If this is one of the Engineers' seeded planets, these people seem much more entwined with Engineer culture than earthlings.

Perhaps there are Engineers actually there OVERSEEING this civilization?

That's what I'm thinking too. We're seeing the results of some sort of devastation on another world that the Engineers seeded life with.

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Quote from: Darkness on May 20, 2016, 02:17:58 PM
Are those actual bodies? They look like statues.

Looking into it a bit more they're actual plaster cast of people, not actual remains. http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/plaster-citizens-of-pompeii

I agree with you about humanoids and them being just a creation, I even mentioned it before this leak...

But it seems to me that there are two different humanoids here...
Those two left are taller than those on the right ??? Maybe children!
I havent seen any aliens on this pictures!!!! Some shapes are just an optical illustion similar to xenos shape...

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Just realized that the thing in the right foreground is the body of a big statue, looks like an Engineer in robes or a toga sort of thing.

Quote from: Ultramorph on May 20, 2016, 02:49:22 PM
Just realized that the thing in the right foreground is the body of a big statue, looks like an Engineer in robes or a toga sort of thing.

Yes... It look like those humanoids worshiped them, or they worshiped themselves?

Yeah, could go either way. Even the Engineers seem to worship themselves. Don't forget Scott's comments about Lucifer from Paradise Lost having all the fun. I wonder if we'll meet that specific Engineer at some point.

Quote from: Ultramorph on May 20, 2016, 02:53:28 PM
Yeah, could go either way. Even the Engineers seem to worship themselves. Don't forget Scott's comments about Lucifer from Paradise Lost having all the fun. I wonder if we'll meet that specific Engineer at some point.

My thoughts ;D

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Some of these burned bodies are females... I am 100% sure!


All this stories of Paradise Lost, Lucifer, Prometheus, Pandora, Zeus are so similar and intertwined, read this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_Man

and this:
http://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/m/mythology/summary-and-analysis-greek-mythology/the-beginnings-8212-prometheus-and-man-and-the-five-ages-of-man-and-the-flood (http://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/m/mythology/summary-and-analysis-greek-mythology/the-beginnings-8212-prometheus-and-man-and-the-five-ages-of-man-and-the-flood)

Oh yeah, Satan and Prometheus have the same mythological roots. That's why the first movie has such a mix of Christian and Ancient Greek influences.

Pompeii or Sodom and Gomorrah? Fire of Covenant perheaps? :laugh:

I'm interested to see what the actual covenant in this movie is. What are the criteria for the Engineers not destroying their creations?

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Quote from: Ultramorph on May 20, 2016, 01:38:41 PM
Wow, I wasn't expecting something this big to come out so early! I strongly doubt those are Engineers. What we're seeing are probably the remains of one of the species the Engineers created and then destroyed. A species that broke the covenant, so to speak.

That's my thoughts as well. I think we're witnessing another culture, one the Engineers helped create, meeting its end.

In an older post from Enoch a crew member mentioned two main alien species. He mentioned voice (language?) as well which could indicate that both species referred to are sentient.

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Quote from: Enoch on May 20, 2016, 03:27:04 PM
Pompeii or Sodom and Gomorrah? Fire of Covenant perheaps? :laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0APF3SO9tqE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0APF3SO9tqE)

Wow. The scale and aesthetics are way off from what I was expecting. This is certainly still very much a SEQUEL to PROMETHEUS... and may be a more FANTASY-style entry to the series, no? They must find this part of Paradise where an Engineer civilization has been wiped out.
Def a 'Pompeii' thing going on.
Im thinking, - in terms of Paradise Lost - these are the petrified bodies of God's Angels/ The Good Engineers that obeyed god, and the Fallen Angels / Engineers on LV223, have released the weapon they created onto Paradise, infecting the Good Engineers, who are in the throws of mutation, in these photos, like Fifield and Holloway - and they are climbing the steps of the temple to reach their creator?
But in response - as they are mutating, someone let off some weapon to wipe them all out and hence here they are frozen in time, like in Pompeii.
In Paradise Lost, a war in Heaven erupts over God loving Humans MORE THAN his Angels. Some of them Rebel, led by Satan... but who knows how literal that connection will be.
These are very interesting. I'm especially pleased with the darkness of it but I hope this is handled well in the script and tonally in the film. Ridley needs to keep the Alien series dark. Here's to that!
I am hoping it's not some flashback but rather something the crew encounter when they explore the planet. I think ALIEN films are best when the plots are sort of linear. Even that dream sequence in Prometheus was bad for that I thought. One thing is for sure - Ridley Scott is going to make this stuff LOOK incredible!

Also- this made me think of that ad, when they were looking for multiple thin, tall people to feature in the film as extras. This is why. Because they are the playing the petrified bodies of these Engineers.

God is often represented as fire... I just analyse movie ideas by trying to understand symbolic
meaning behind all the references we know Covenant story will implement.

For example. Remember this crystal,
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I assume you all know they changed this scene 3 times. They used amule of black goo instead of crystal and then sacrifical bowl... but at the end they chose green crystal. Well I found whats the ultimate meaning of the crystal: Its a gem used on Satans/Lucifer crown... it represent enligtenment and knowledge. It symbolises power of regeneration (like Prometheus liver) and often represent cosmic egg of eternal rebirth...!

So I am pretty sure that all the things have some meaning in Prometheus... its a flawed movie for sure, but they (Ridley and Lindelof) knew what they wanted to achieve.

We still dont know who is who in this story? Who is a Prometheus/Lucifer in Prometheus? Humans or Engineers, or both, or maybe David? Whats Xeno or black goo? Is there a true "God"?

What is interesting is that all of this was built at a quarry in Sydney instead of inside a more secure soundstage. Which might mean that everything will be set on fire - a huge blaze of epic proportions.

Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 20, 2016, 04:50:07 PM
What is interesting is that all of this was built at a quarry in Sydney instead of inside a more secure soundstage. Which might mean that everything will be set on fire - a huge blaze of epic proportions.

Probably. Very good thinking! ;D

Quote from: Darkness on May 20, 2016, 02:17:58 PMAre those actual bodies? They look like statues.

The original husks at Pompeii were very fragile so they filled them with plaster. So it's a plaster cast of a real dead body.

...er, is this suddenly looking very good!!! ;D

Well Ridley did say David was going to be the lucifer figure right? If he and Shaw touched down on the engineer homeworld, head attatched, on a juggernaut warship full of bio accelerent, which was made offworld for good reason, David could see the chance of playing god himself by testing the black goo on the engineer race like he did with Halloway. If my theory on the engineer schism is correct, this will spell a horrible doom for the " good engineers" who allowed our existence to flourish. Hence why they never came back after 2000 years. Also, as evidence in a deleted scene from Prometheus, the Engineers seem to be much more formidable than us. If a flame weapon(possibly one similar to fire and stone?)were used here to stop infected members of the engineer race, perhaps the missing xeno husks are results of them being more vulnerable to fire, leaving no visible trace.

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Wait a minute and imagine the explorers progress in these grandiose scenery!

Still holding out hope for more Giger-esque scenery though!

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Wait a minute and imagine the explorers progress in these grandiose scenery!

Appropriate music for such scene :laugh::
https://youtu.be/mUSGHMX9UaY?t=2m24s (https://youtu.be/mUSGHMX9UaY?t=2m24s)

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 20, 2016, 07:00:32 PM
Still holding out hope for more Giger-esque scenery though!

I think we ll see Giger-esque sets too... I have a strong hunch about that this time.

Seeing those trees, I immediately thought of the Rush song, Trees.

"There is trouble in the forest..."

It'd be perfect, and knowing Ridley's musical choices lately he might even think about something like that (maybe during the credits roll).

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 20, 2016, 07:00:32 PM
Still holding out hope for more Giger-esque scenery though!

Certainly in the temple. But it's good to see new things, it's already moving away from the usual aesthetics of the saga and that's fine !

Quote from: Enoch on May 20, 2016, 07:01:21 PM
Appropriate music for such scene :laugh::
https://youtu.be/mUSGHMX9UaY?t=2m24s (https://youtu.be/mUSGHMX9UaY?t=2m24s)

Beautiful !!

Quote from: Stolen on May 20, 2016, 07:05:41 PM
Certainly in the temple. But it's good to see new things, it's already moving away from the usual aesthetics of the saga and that's fine !

I have no issue with doing new stuff! Just hoping to see the one real expectation/hope I have for this movie met.

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Wait a minute and imagine the explorers progress in these grandiose scenery!

Omg, those trees must have been thousands of years old.  I can't believe they cut them down!   ;D

Who cut the trees ??? ;D

I don't see why the corpses aren't human. They actually look very Ancient Mediterranean. I'll bet my bottom dollar its a prologue scene revealing exactly what went wrong with the relation between the Engineers and Humans.

Quote from: Gate on May 20, 2016, 07:25:34 PM
I don't see why the corpses aren't human. They actually look very Ancient Mediterranean. I'll bet my bottom dollar its a prologue scene revealing exactly what went wrong with the relation between the Engineers and Humans.

Another possibility is that there is a larger colony on board the ship and the cast we know of represent the leads only or dept heads of the Covenant crew... And that these figures are actually the fate of the colony the covenant was carrying. Maybe they are to remain in stasis while the actors/leads set up the colony and they get infected when they are woken up or even before by David or something.

I think I am officially excited about the content of this movie.

I wonder what kind weapon ?

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nuclear or biological?

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Quote from: Enoch on May 20, 2016, 07:16:45 PM
Who cut the trees ??? ;D

I think they are the lava spitters or vulcano in human words.

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Quote from: Perfect-Organism on May 20, 2016, 12:21:34 PM
Broken link

Fixed.

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Looking at this pic again, you see the guy with the hat standing and right of him is a statue its only missing a head, you see the arm and the toga over his body.

Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on May 20, 2016, 08:22:17 PM
I wonder what kind weapon ?

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nuclear or biological?

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You guy's ever watch Light Years?

https://youtu.be/eucpelkpuiY?t=2m21s

Could be a stone-forming ray. :P

They all saw Medusa (or a basilisk)...

Well, Prometheus is inspired in Greek mythology, so who knows  :laugh:

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Back on topic, we may agree that there are two possible scenarios:

1) this scene takes place in the Earth, in a remote past like Pompeii or Sodom and Gomorrah

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or

2) the same thing but on an alien planet

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If there is another possibility, do not hesitate to share it  :P

Look at the faces of the more muscular husks. Those are Engineers. See how they all have that distinct nose?? Also, compare this image to the fossilized pilot suits scratching at one of the doors in the installation on LV-223. You know, the ones Fifield said reminded him of a holocaust painting?

Omg it's the Engineers being attacked by Skynet!

Quote from: Astronoë on May 20, 2016, 10:00:01 PM
Omg it's the Engineers being attacked by Skynet!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX9hL93HPMI

Its kinda not funny. What if they want to wipe us out because past civilizations they seeded invented the Nuke.

Come on guys it could just be a simple memorial of a battle long gone and in some series disrepair. Of course it may also be incomplete until the cgi is add in. But I do say that one guy sure looks like an alien. However it looks more like they were trying to get into somewhere before some virus like thing petrified them all. Hell the entire planet could be covered in corpses.

That or Ridley fired his sceurity team in a most spectacular way.

Quote from: LordCassusSnow on May 20, 2016, 09:37:22 PM
Look at the faces of the more muscular husks. Those are Engineers. See how they all have that distinct nose?? Also, compare this image to the fossilized pilot suits scratching at one of the doors in the installation on LV-223. You know, the ones Fifield said reminded him of a holocaust painting?

Too small to be Engineers IMO, but certainly the image looks like a holocaust

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Plus, it is me or there are chains of black goo in this humanoid?

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My passion for this film has no limits

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Trying to recreate the alien paradise with the scenario editor of an old real-time strategy game

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I need a life  :laugh:

I think those trees will be towering over everything around them by the time we see them onscreen.  They're  partially built set pieces for actors to immediately be part of.  I doubt we'll be seeing tree stumps in the movie, no matter how large. 

Besides, there's scaffolding framework in the top of the image that suspiciously looks like it's supposed to support green screens.  This scene will be digitally transformed by the time we see the final version.   That, and all the registration markers place on the ground means this scene is a long way from completion

-Windebieste.

Quote from: windebieste on May 21, 2016, 03:35:41 AM
I think those trees will be towering over everything around them by the time we see them onscreen.  They're  partially built set pieces for actors to immediately be part of.  I doubt we'll be seeing tree stumps in the movie, no matter how large. 

Besides, there's scaffolding framework in the top of the image that suspiciously looks like it's supposed to support green screens.  This scene will be digitally transformed by the time we see the final version.   That, and all the registration markers place on the ground means this scene is a long way from completion

-Windebieste.

They'll probably have complete trees built digitally for visual effects and the stumps will just be for close-up eye level stuff.

Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on May 20, 2016, 08:22:17 PMnuclear or biological?

Considering the bodies are charred, that points towards them being killed by heat rather than any chemical or biological agents.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 21, 2016, 09:56:47 AM

Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on May 20, 2016, 08:22:17 PMnuclear or biological?

Considering the bodies are charred, that points towards them being killed by heat rather than any chemical or biological agents.

...or they all got Medusa'd.

The engineers corpses found on LV-223 were too small imo as well.

Quote from: whiterabbit on May 21, 2016, 12:29:12 PM

Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 21, 2016, 09:56:47 AM

Quote from: Crazy Shrimp on May 20, 2016, 08:22:17 PMnuclear or biological?

Considering the bodies are charred, that points towards them being killed by heat rather than any chemical or biological agents.

...or they all got Medusa'd.

No joke, Giger did some amazing Medusa images.

Quote from: windebieste on May 21, 2016, 03:35:41 AM
I think those trees will be towering over everything around them by the time we see them onscreen.  They're  partially built set pieces for actors to immediately be part of.  I doubt we'll be seeing tree stumps in the movie, no matter how large. 

Besides, there's scaffolding framework in the top of the image that suspiciously looks like it's supposed to support green screens.  This scene will be digitally transformed by the time we see the final version.   That, and all the registration markers place on the ground means this scene is a long way from completion

-Windebieste.

They did the same with Lothlorien in Lord of the Rings. Only built the bottom of the trees, the rest was CGI.

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But those trees would probably preclude it being a flashback scene to the past. At least in the ancient Mediterranean area. Don't really get trees of that scale outside of tropical and temperate rain-forests.

Well it is an alien planet

Those shots of the charred bodies is some real biblical shit, here's hoping for some more creepy imagery

We're going to see Jesus nailed to the cross and by Jesus I mean the Alien with a capital A. Yea we're going to find out that the Alien is our savior and the whole time Ripley was murdering our future. Probably because Ripley is part Engineer which would explain why she is 6 feet tall and full of manliness.

Oh did I just give away anything, oh my. :P

Quote from: whiterabbit on May 21, 2016, 10:01:09 PM
We're going to see Jesus nailed to the cross and by Jesus I mean the Alien with a capital A. Yea we're going to find out that the Alien is our savior and the whole time Ripley was murdering our future. Probably because Ripley is part Engineer which would explain why she is 6 feet tall and full of manliness.

Oh did I just give away anything, oh my. :P

Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about our lord and saviour, the Xenomorph? Who burst out of our chests, taking with it all of our sins?

Oh god... stop it Whiterabbit, stop trying to turn this forum into the Church of Xenology!

Wait, screw it, everyone off to the cocoons we go... let's get f**king CLEANSED!

But seriously, I am super freaking excited! These pictures have hyped me up so much.

I liked the photos, since the first minute of the first Prometheus film this is the first time I'm genuinely feeling there's a mystery worth getting stuck into. Why? Because the scenes look so mysterious! Now just carve out these wonderful set pieces with the right mixture of lighting that you brought to Alien, and not that horrible bland lighting of Prometheus, and we could be talking art. Oh, and please please please don't don't don't have us, your audience, see these scenes in the movie through a stupid helmet cam with bio read outs. Pretty pretty please don't spoil it with helmet cams.

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Oh come on man you know you want a cookie. Come join us over at the Church of God with a Capital A.

Quote from: The Alien Predator on May 21, 2016, 10:46:00 PM
Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about our lord and saviour, the Xenomorph? Who burst out of our chests, taking with it all of our sins?

Wow, but what if that is why the Engineer are pissed at us? We broke with covenant?

WHERE THE f**k DO I BUY ONE OF THOSE?

Quote from: whiterabbit on May 21, 2016, 11:14:04 PM
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Oh come on man you know you want a cookie. Come join us over at the Church of God with a Capital A.

Quote from: The Alien Predator on May 21, 2016, 10:46:00 PM
Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about our lord and saviour, the Xenomorph? Who burst out of our chests, taking with it all of our sins?

Wow, but what if that is why the Engineer are pissed at us? We broke with covenant?

So everyone who joins the Church or Xenology gets a free biomechanical cookie? f**kING CONVERTED! Where is my nearest church?

Indeed, we broke the covenant! But the Xenomorphs shall keep us safe!  ;D

Wonder what Prometheus comics will be called now? Engineers perhaps? We'll probably get a true name for the race but still, the Predator isn't Yautja and Alien isn't Xenomorph. I wouldn't mind. Aliens v Predators v Engineers? Anyone?

Can't say I'm digging what I see all that much. I think I'll stay away from future pictures & just wait for the movie to come out.

Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on May 22, 2016, 12:11:05 AM
WHERE THE f**k DO I BUY ONE OF THOSE?

http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/issv/

Quote from: LordCassusSnow on May 22, 2016, 02:25:03 AMWe'll probably get a true name for the race but still, the Predator isn't Yautja and Alien isn't Xenomorph.

According to the current EU canon, yes they are.

Oh and i honestly hope its a three hour movie at least.
an hour and a half doesnt cut it for me.

Or he should make a tv show with a big budget and high quality.

My soul just needs a lot of this mystery and i think a two hour movie is just not enough to cover all the years that follow and we again get nothing year after year.

These pictures are cool. I want to believe that this next movie will be more satisfying than Prometheus, that fell short, alas, of its massive potential. I hope there will be less discrepancy between the alienness I wish to see in the movie and the more conventional part (the human characters, etc.). Let's say it, there is not a great deal of awe and mystery in the great movie sci-fi franchises nowadays ; it's what is at stake here, for me. If the film manages to be really impressive on that matter at least during a few scenes, it would be great. I wish the crew were bold enough to try to go past (at least a bit) the usual platitudes the studios think are necessary in a wide-audience movie (this kind of thing is what makes many blockbusters incredibly boring and disappointing)...

I'm well aware of the expanded universe. What i should have said was predator comics are called predator not yautja. So if there are more comics coming out focusing on the Engineers, they should be named so as there won't be anymore Prometheus movies. Only Alien ones.

It looks like that they are engineers dying on that field,which suggests a civil war between them. But there some things which interest me: what was the cause of the war,example,decadence and corruption after their golden age of their main civilisation or they created something which divided them such as humanoids,humans,xenomorphs,black goo or worse. It probably started with xeno then the rest of them gone wrong,I mean war, or vice-versa. For xenos,I mentioned before that they probably are not such young species but rather much older,maybe millions or one hundred thousand year old. What do you think about latter,guys?

Couple more I just saw shared on Twitter. Not sure who posted these ones but seems to be the same vantage point as the Daily Mail pictures, probably from the same set and source.

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Here we go, they're from another Sydney paper: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/sydneys-west-hosts-alien-covenant-shoot-as-sir-ridley-scotts-vision-emerges/news-story/62d327cf48bd9b1639c6fe5f532eddb6

Man I'm absolutely loving what I'm seeing so far. The practical sets are so damn huge that it has to be done in the wide open for all tourist to photo.

DEAD engineers, EVERYWHERE. Now that is the stuff nightmare are made out of.

Wow. Very scary. Like a futuristic pompeii.

Yup, thats engineer writing on those stone walls. Compare em to the writings in Prometheus and bingo. And as to the lack of Shaw, well, either she and David 8 went their separate ways off screen or David 8 probably turned her into the mother of all xeno's which we'll see at the end of the movie.

Quote from: Mike on May 23, 2016, 01:28:07 AM
It looks like that they are engineers dying on that field,which suggests a civil war between them. But there some things which interest me: what was the cause of the war,example,decadence and corruption after their golden age of their main civilisation or they created something which divided them such as humanoids,humans,xenomorphs,black goo or worse. It probably started with xeno then the rest of them gone wrong,I mean war, or vice-versa. For xenos,I mentioned before that they probably are not such young species but rather much older,maybe millions or one hundred thousand year old. What do you think about latter,guys?

I'm pretty sure that in PARADISE LOST the war in Heaven/descent amongst the Angels, is started over God's love for Adam and Eve/humans.

Also of note:
"As a result of Adam and Eve's sin (eating the Forbidden Fruit), the gates of Hell are now wide open for Sin and Death (who are actual characters in this poem) to build a bridge from Hell to earth. Satan returns to Hell triumphant, but he and his angels are eventually turned into serpents as punishment for Satan's evil deed. "

Serpents = Xenos  ;D :o

Expect a lot of symbolism from Covenant... and prepare for a good mystery-horror movie.

Quote from: Enoch on May 23, 2016, 09:33:23 PM
Serpents = Xenos  ;D :o

Expect a lot of symbolism from Covenant... and prepare for a good mystery-horror movie.

Oh crap, isn't that what they're called in the AvP film and in the latest AvP game?

Quote from: The Alien Predator on May 23, 2016, 09:53:22 PM

Quote from: Enoch on May 23, 2016, 09:33:23 PM
Serpents = Xenos  ;D :o

Expect a lot of symbolism from Covenant... and prepare for a good mystery-horror movie.

Oh crap, isn't that what they're called in the AvP film and in the latest AvP game?

God uses the black goo to punish Satan and his servant by turning them into xenos? Wow so the alien would literally be Satan. Man I like it better when they were simply just another beast trying to make it's way in the universe.

Man, these are just a metaphorical and symbolical references... Xeno is a metaphor of  creation made by those who thought that they are Gods (Satan thougt that he is better than God). Creations of those who want to top Gods creation will become a destroyers of their creators... Who made the Xenomorph? Probably those who wanted to top ultimate creator (fallen angels - just a reference), but you cant top that entity. Humans created David, but the paradox of that creation is that David could become superior to Humans... thats the trick with creation... to create doesnt mean you are God!!! But the nice question will remain, who is the ultimate creator? Life is born from death, death from life... where is God? God must be all that at the same time, and none of those things. Who is God? What is God? All things at the same time and none of them. "He" is not created, but "he" "created"... Knowledge/ IS GOD (logos)... Its not created but it "created all there is"... its not material, but can be "materialised"...it can be nothing, and everything at the same time. What is existance? Materialisation (projection) of non existance, materialisation of knowledge (all things have their mathematical/physical/chemical properties which are in their essence knowledge of something, and therefore non material things). Life and material things (a materialisation of existance/of knowledge) came from death/void/chaos (dematerialised existence----knowledge... its non existent and existent at the sam time), and death came from life. God is everything and nothing, knowledge is everything and nothing (a true/false illusion). But how can something non material become material? How can you make space, planets, Humans without elements such as Oxygen, Hydrogen, Carbon,...?  How can you have number 1 from zero (0); you can have 0 from 1 (when you introduce another number 1), but first option is not imaginable to us...? Imaginable... What if 0 and 1 are the same - what if they are both same becuse they represent the same thing - NOTHING AT ALL... (nihil fit ex nihilo)... "Out of nothing, nothing [be]comes." There is nothing... So duality of death and life is not at all "duality" but modality of the same thing. Good and bad are duality of the same thing (not duality at all)... Only sentient "creatures" percive things in a different way, they see some difference (because they observe only visible,sensible and measurable thing which are in fact not visible, sensible or measurable)... is there a difference? When you are born you see and feel  numerous different expiriances, objects, things... you sense, comperhend the world around you... but like numbers, 1, 2, 3, 4, ...... all those things: senses, expiriances, existance; they are all just a variations of the same number - 0 (ZERO). They came from nothing, and therefor all of them are also nothing. You dont need a cause for nonexistent thing! Its all just an illusion.


Philosophy is dangerous, and I am not good at philosophy but I wanted to explore one thing that Weyland said before he "died": "There is nothing", and then David said to him: "I know! Good journey mr. Weyland." David as a soulless machine can comperhend that there is no causality, reason, purpose, there is just this illusion... so things like immortality, life, death and God are not important at all, because they are all the same. We are in a loop of endless illusion. 

I dont want too much difficult philosophical questions in Prometheus... more mystery and horror please; and some sensible answers to numerous questions that Prometheus delightfully asked.

I think those are Engineers that got infected by the black liquid and are undergoing mutations. Perhaps they are climbing up the stairs to escape whatever it is that petrifies them.

Yup.  Now yer talkin'.   

;D

Scott loves to load his SF movies up with symbolism and deeper inferences.  'Prometheus' is very heavily laden with such content.  It's just too bad the characters were lacking in order to accommodate the deeper themes the movie embraces.  By layering these movies, and I mean 'Prometheus' and 'ALIEN: Covenant',  with such rich symbology, Scott is making movies that need multiple viewings to fully comprehend the concealed content that we can currently only guess at.  Some people will fail in their appreciation of these movies simply because they can't get beyond the face value of what's projected on the screen when in actual fact, these movies appear to embrace deeper and more challenging existential content than such audiences are familiar with. 

Most of 'Prometheus' questions can be answered.  Sure, there's some that defy adequate explanation currently.  Nonetheless, its a safe bet that more than just a few questions that require more information - information that looks like we will start seeing in the next movie - is reasonably telegraphed by anyone who has paid attention to the movie in the first place.  What's more important is the level of symbology we are being exposed to.  For some audiences who are expecting simple space adventures they may want to take a good hard look at the rich textures that this fabric is being woven with. 

From what we are seeing now, particularly with these recent images and what has been revealed to date, literary, mythical and Biblical symbology is only going to continue and expand within this series.  There's a lot more going on here in these new movies than we have seen previously - more than meets the eye, that's for sure.

-Windebieste.

Quote from: The Alien Predator on May 23, 2016, 09:53:22 PM

Quote from: Enoch on May 23, 2016, 09:33:23 PM
Serpents = Xenos  ;D :o

Expect a lot of symbolism from Covenant... and prepare for a good mystery-horror movie.

Oh crap, isn't that what they're called in the AvP film and in the latest AvP game?

Don't forget "Fire Lizards" in Rage War.

Quote from: Enoch on May 24, 2016, 02:09:55 AM
Man, these are just a metaphorical and symbolical references... Xeno is a metaphor of  creation made by those who thought that they are Gods (Satan thougt that he is better than God). Creations of those who want to top Gods creation will become a destroyers of their creators... Who made the Xenomorph? Probably those who wanted to top ultimate creator (fallen angels - just a reference), but you cant top that entity. Humans created David, but the paradox of that creation is that David could become superior to Humans... thats the trick with creation... to create doesnt mean you are God!!! But the nice question will remain, who is the ultimate creator? Life is born from death, death from life... where is God? God must be all that at the same time, and none of those things. Who is God? What is God? All things at the same time and none of them. "He" is not created, but "he" "created"... Knowledge/ IS GOD (logos)... Its not created but it "created all there is"... its not material, but can be "materialised"...it can be nothing, and everything at the same time. What is existance? Materialisation (projection) of non existance, materialisation of knowledge (all things have their mathematical/physical/chemical properties which are in their essence knowledge of something, and therefore non material things). Life and material things (a materialisation of existance/of knowledge) came from death/void/chaos (dematerialised existence----knowledge... its non existent and existent at the sam time), and death came from life. God is everything and nothing, knowledge is everything and nothing (a true/false illusion). But how can something non material become material? How can you make space, planets, Humans without elements such as Oxygen, Hydrogen, Carbon,...?  How can you have number 1 from zero (0); you can have 0 from 1 (when you introduce another number 1), but first option is not imaginable to us...? Imaginable... What if 0 and 1 are the same - what if they are both same becuse they represent the same thing - NOTHING AT ALL... (nihil fit ex nihilo)... "Out of nothing, nothing [be]comes." There is nothing... So duality of death and life is not at all "duality" but modality of the same thing. Good and bad are duality of the same thing (not duality at all)... Only sentient "creatures" percive things in a different way, they see some difference (because they observe only visible,sensible and measurable thing which are in fact not visible, sensible or measurable)... is there a difference? When you are born you see and feel  numerous different expiriances, objects, things... you sense, comperhend the world around you... but like numbers, 1, 2, 3, 4, ...... all those things: senses, expiriances, existance; they are all just a variations of the same number - 0 (ZERO). They came from nothing, and therefor all of them are also nothing. You dont need a cause for nonexistent thing! Its all just an illusion.


Philosophy is dangerous, and I am not good at philosophy but I wanted to explore one thing that Weyland said before he "died": "There is nothing", and then David said to him: "I know! Good journey mr. Weyland." David as a soulless machine can comperhend that there is no causality, reason, purpose, there is just this illusion... so things like immortality, life, death and God are not important at all, because they are all the same. We are in a loop of endless illusion. 

I dont want too much difficult philosophical questions in Prometheus... more mystery and horror please; and some sensible answers to numerous questions that Prometheus delightfully asked.

Whoa...

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I've read somewhere recently that there is this idea that the fundamental building block of our reality is the "bit".  It is not a unit of matter as we perceive it, but a unit of "information".  You are able to touch things and they appear real, because you are inside this information model.  Much like when you are in a video gamy you can reach out and touch the things around you "in-game" even though they are in fact not real.  They are only information or an idea.  We are an idea by extension.

In some ways, this is a comforting thought.  According to the bible, in the beginning, there was the word.  The word is an idea...

"The Universe is information." -Philip K. Dick, VALIS, 1981.

-Windebieste.

Quote from: windebieste on May 24, 2016, 04:21:50 AM
"The Universe is information." -Philip K. Dick, VALIS, 1981.

-Windebieste.

;) ;D Ridley is devoted reader of Philip K. Dick.

QuoteIn the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

What is word? Nothing, yet everything. :D

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Quote from: Perfect-Organism on May 24, 2016, 03:41:16 AM
Whoa...

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I've read somewhere recently that there is this idea that the fundamental building block of our reality is the "bit".  It is not a unit of matter as we perceive it, but a unit of "information".  You are able to touch things and they appear real, because you are inside this information model.  Much like when you are in a video gamy you can reach out and touch the things around you "in-game" even though they are in fact not real.  They are only information or an idea. We are an idea by extension. NOT ONLY WE, BUT EVERYTHING!

In some ways, this is a comforting thought.  According to the bible, in the beginning, there was the word.  The word is an idea...

Yes. I heard about those theories... I find them very interesting :)

Quote from: Enoch on May 24, 2016, 01:41:43 PM
;) ;D Ridley is devoted reader of Philip K. Dick.

Bah! He never even read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep!

I believe Phill wasn't really amused when Riddles confessed that to him during a BR preview screening.  :laugh:

Theres a big possibility the movie could end up being completely mediocre. Would'nt get my hopes up too much until we receive the third trailer.

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Quote from: Enoch on May 23, 2016, 09:33:23 PM
Serpents = Xenos  ;D :o

Expect a lot of symbolism from Covenant... and prepare for a good mystery-horror movie.

Oh crap, isn't that what they're called in the AvP film and in the latest AvP game?

Don't forget "Fire Lizards" in Rage War.

And also "Fire-Dragon" again in Rage War.  :P

Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 24, 2016, 04:22:35 PM

Quote from: Enoch on May 24, 2016, 01:41:43 PM
;) ;D Ridley is devoted reader of Philip K. Dick.

Bah! He never even read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep!

I believe Phill wasn't really amused when Riddles confessed that to him during a BR preview screening.  :laugh:

Yes, he didn't read The Martian either. His loss.  :D

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Quote from: Enoch on May 24, 2016, 01:41:43 PM
;) ;D Ridley is devoted reader of Philip K. Dick.

Bah! He never even read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep!

I believe Phill wasn't really amused when Riddles confessed that to him during a BR preview screening.  :laugh:

Yes, he didn't read The Martian either. His loss.  :D

I DON'T READ THE BOOK... THE BOOK READS ME...  :laugh:

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Look at the faces of the more muscular husks. Those are Engineers. See how they all have that distinct nose?? Also, compare this image to the fossilized pilot suits scratching at one of the doors in the installation on LV-223. You know, the ones Fifield said reminded him of a holocaust painting?

Too small to be Engineers IMO, but certainly the image looks like a holocaust

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I need a life  :laugh:

Oh my gooooooooooood I still play that game!! Galactic Battlegrounds is one of my all-time favs! <3

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Quote from: LordCassusSnow on May 20, 2016, 09:37:22 PM
Look at the faces of the more muscular husks. Those are Engineers. See how they all have that distinct nose?? Also, compare this image to the fossilized pilot suits scratching at one of the doors in the installation on LV-223. You know, the ones Fifield said reminded him of a holocaust painting?

Too small to be Engineers IMO, but certainly the image looks like a holocaust

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I need a life  :laugh:

Oh my gooooooooooood I still play that game!! Galactic Battlegrounds is one of my all-time favs! <3

Great to know that I am not the only one  :laugh:

Okay, I tried to keep an open mind about the possible settings we were going to get in the PROMETHEUS follow-up, and rather than anything 'Giger-esque', we got an early look at some lush, non-ominous 'New Zealand' backdrops as the likely setting for the 'Engineers' actual homeworld of 'Paradise' (or whatever they themselves call it).

Which is fine, but I'm certainly pleased to see these atmospheric 'dead body' pics now.  It's almost like a hellish scene out of a Hieronymus Bosch painting, and I love the raw, bright lighting we currently see.  I hope Ridley keeps the reveal of these bodies in stark lighting like this, rather than filming them in some 'stylised' colorscheme (or unnatural 'color grading', shudder), as I think coming across these distorted, unfortunate figures in the bright light looks very ominous indeed, with the shadows they currently cast in these shots.

I was speaking about ideas and theories regarding God, existance, universe and creation. I said that the whole universe is an "illusion" and that the God is in fact an unlimited source of informations (non material and not created "things").

QuoteIn the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word (logos) was God. ~John 1:1

We have Universe and all the planets (objects) inside it, and lifeforms on those planets, but how can number 1 which represent all this, be produced from nothing (from ZERO)? Well I mentioned this ancient Greek cosmology idea which tells us that "Nothing comes from nothing" (nihil fit ex nihilo), and its easy to assume that  all we see and perceive is a simple illusion or better projection of non material pieces or bits of informations stored within higly densed objects (singularity/ black/white holes). Well there is a rather shocking theory which now begins to evolve into something really serious, and that theory shows that all what I said might be "true". That theory is widely accepted now and its called Holographic (theory) principle.

Quotehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_principle)

The "holographic principle" asserts that a mathematical description of the universe actually requires one fewer dimension than it seems. What we perceive as three dimensional may just be the image of two dimensional processes on a huge cosmic horizon (like a horizon of a black hole). And if we introduce black holes into this story then its easy to assume that we are in fact living inside the black hole which horizon store all the informations that produce this 3D space/time hologram. Big bang could have been an imploded (grand) black hole which singularity/ or horizon possessed unlimited information for creation of endless universes and projections. All that could have happened inside other black hole... I will also mention famous  theoretical physicist Nikodem Popławski whose theory of black holes states that every black hole is a doorway to another universe and that the Universe was formed within a black hole which itself exists in a larger universe.

Quotehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikodem_Pop%C5%82awski (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikodem_Pop%C5%82awski)

Remember that word (logos) or bit of information is eternal and indestructible (thats the law of physics) so every projection and complete informations about those projections are eternal and they could be reasembeled again in some other universe withing the master one, and master one is in fact grand black/white hole. I look at this like everything is a grand server, constantly expanding and within master server there are hundreds of other servers (black holes) formed within the master and the next sub level server etc. All of those servers expand because there are unlimited quantities of informations loaded into them. Interesting thing. I wanted to share this with you no matter its not related to Alien whatsoever.

'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep' may not be a long book - Dick never wrote 'big' books, they just embrace big ideas; and many of them at once - but it's packed to the brim with content.  So much content that 'Blade Runner' is really just the bare bones synopsis of the book.  While I love 'Blade Runner', I'm hoping one day someone will make a truer version of 'DADoES' with all of its ideas in place.

Scott was also Executive Producer on Amazon's 'The Man in the High Castle'.  It looks the piece, too. 

Both of these books by Dick cover the main themes that he revisited many, many times in over 30 novels and dozens of short stories:  What is the nature of reality?  ...and what does it mean to be Human? 

Unfortunately, most of Dick's work gets into Hollywood's clutches turns into drivel.  'Total Recall', for example shoves the main reality into the back seat in favor of being yet another action vehicle for Schwarzenegger.  I'm not sure if it's O'bannon's script, but 'We Can Remember it for you Wholesale' is one trippy short story. 

Ash's revelation as an android is very Phil Dickian.  Interestingly, that was one element that the producers made to the 'ALIEN' script.  The film is soooo much better for it.  It's addition gives the movie some much needed depth and richness it desperately needs at that point in the film to drive the film to its endgame scenes.  'ALIEN' would be a much more vacant experience without its inclusion as it tows a whole freight train of implications regarding WY.   I was actually surprised that it wasn't O'Bannon's idea.  He'd obviously read a lot of Dick's work - its seemed natural to be his idea.

'The Man in the High Castle' wins on the television front but the closest I have seen any movie genuinely get to a Dick book is 'A Scanner Darkly'.  Oh, man... that is one menacing and trippy movie. 

-Windebieste.

Quote from: windebieste on May 26, 2016, 11:07:18 PM
'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep' may not be a long book - Dick never wrote 'big' books, they just embrace big ideas; and many of them at once - but it's packed to the brim with content.  So much content that 'Blade Runner' is really just the bare bones synopsis of the book.  While I love 'Blade Runner', I'm hoping one day someone will make a truer version of 'DADoES' with all of its ideas in place.

Scott was also Executive Producer on Amazon's 'The Man in the High Castle'.  It looks the piece, too. 

Both of these books by Dick cover the main themes that he revisited many, many times in over 30 novels and dozens of short stories:  What is the nature of reality?  ...and what does it mean to be Human? 

Unfortunately, most of Dick's work gets into Hollywood's clutches turns into drivel.  'Total Recall', for example shoves the main reality into the back seat in favor of being yet another action vehicle for Schwarzenegger.  I'm not sure if it's O'bannon's script, but 'We Can Remember it for you Wholesale' is one trippy short story. 

Ash's revelation as an android is very Phil Dickian.  Interestingly, that was one element that the producers made to the 'ALIEN' script.  The film is soooo much better for it.  It's addition gives the movie some much needed depth and richness it desperately needs at that point in the film to drive the film to its endgame scenes.  'ALIEN' would be a much more vacant experience without its inclusion as it tows a whole freight train of implications regarding WY.   I was actually surprised that it wasn't O'Bannon's idea.  He'd obviously read a lot of Dick's work - its seemed natural to be his idea.

'The Man in the High Castle' wins on the television front but the closest I have seen any movie genuinely get to a Dick book is 'A Scanner Darkly'.  Oh, man... that is one menacing and trippy movie. 

-Windebieste.

Winde, a few years ago, DADoES was adapted into a graphic novel.  By that I mean it wasn't the same old Bladreunner story, but actually the original novel adapted to the Graphic novel format.  Perhaps there is hope for a film in the future, but it would have big shoes to fill.

Concept Art of Prometheus

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How long does this movie need to be? and how much should be shown? or how much info you want on the engineers and the xeno-verse?
i know its still a year away, and Ridley is getting older, if there will be a next one could it be in five years or should he give the stick to someone else? this is and could possibly the last alien movie we will get from Ridley, anyone thought about that?

Quote from: Stolen on Jul 10, 2016, 07:30:23 AM
Concept Art of Prometheus

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Do you think perhaps the cause of the massacre in Covenant is going to be the same creation from Prometheus?

Would be neat if they created the Xenomorph to combat some greater threat to their civilisation.

I mentioned it in another thread but I remember a fanfic that was posted on PlanetAvP a long ass time ago that had the Jockey's creating Aliens to fight the Predators. I always liked that. Of course, that wont be the case for Covenant but I never had a problem with the concept of the Jockey's creating Aliens to use as weapons against some other species.

Quote from: Infected on Jul 10, 2016, 09:47:39 AM

i know its still a year away, and Ridley is getting older, if there will be a next one could it be in five years or should he give the stick to someone else? this is and could possibly the last alien movie we will get from Ridley, anyone thought about that?

I honestly thought Ridley would never direct another Alien film, let alone two prequels.  I wouldn't be surprised now if he did make the next two (if they happen).

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 10, 2016, 10:03:33 AM
I mentioned it in another thread but I remember a fanfic that was posted on PlanetAvP a long ass time ago that had the Jockey's creating Aliens to fight the Predators. I always liked that. Of course, that wont be the case for Covenant but I never had a problem with the concept of the Jockey's creating Aliens to use as weapons against some other species.

The question then comes from the alien's complete existence being designed to combat a specific race. What the f*** was so bad they needed xenos?

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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 10, 2016, 10:03:33 AM
I mentioned it in another thread but I remember a fanfic that was posted on PlanetAvP a long ass time ago that had the Jockey's creating Aliens to fight the Predators. I always liked that. Of course, that wont be the case for Covenant but I never had a problem with the concept of the Jockey's creating Aliens to use as weapons against some other species.

The question then comes from the alien's complete existence being designed to combat a specific race. What the f*** was so bad they needed xenos?

And that's the fun question! Where potential for other films lay.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jul 10, 2016, 09:57:24 AM
Would be neat if they created the Xenomorph to combat some greater threat to their civilisation.

Yes, Predators.  :P

Jokes aside, I love this idea though. Maybe Aliens were created to fight an even deadlier creation of theirs.

I really hope it's not predators.  That's just lame.  If there's anything the predators lack, it's elegance.  I would imagine that whatever the engineers were facing was deadly but somehow elegant.  The predators are basically a bunch of rednecks and I cringe at the fact that the alien films are associated with predators.  Just not my thing.  I thought it was kind of cool circa 1992, but there wasn't a single creative team in film, book, or comic that managed that relationship at a satisfactory level.

Are you all kidding?? This is Ridley Scott movie!
No Predators or simillar stuff :)

That being said, I have some info that there will be a new
superior and intelligent entity!

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jul 10, 2016, 05:50:14 PMThe predators are basically a bunch of rednecks and I cringe at the fact that the alien films are associated with predators.

Right there with you man. Predator is Alien for wrestling fans.  :D

Quote from: Enoch on Jul 10, 2016, 06:27:24 PM
Are you all kidding?? This is Ridley Scott movie!
No Predators or simillar stuff :)

That being said, I have some info that there will be a new
superior and intelligent entity!

The idea that there will be a superior entity makes sense.  After all.  Ridley himself said, "who created them?".

I cant wait to see what kind of creature will be there.

I suspect that it will be a case of a long chain of creators without ever finding out who actually created us.  So we created androids, the engineers created us, something created the engineers, and something created those guys, and so on, ad infinitum.  None of which is God actually (in the context of the film).  I'd be ok with that sort of a reveal in the films.  Nothing worse than solving an unsolvable mystery.

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jul 10, 2016, 07:00:00 PM
I suspect that it will be a case of a long chain of creators without ever finding out who actually created us.  So we created androids, the engineers created us, something created the engineers, and something created those guys, and so on, ad infinitum.  None of which is God actually (in the context of the film).  I'd be ok with that sort of a reveal in the films.  Nothing worse than solving an unsolvable mystery.

Predator: Incursion had a part in it where the Marines mentioned scientists studying something in the hopes for "finding the origins of life" or something along those lines.

Perhaps this is a nod to the whole new theme of creating life and the overall origins of most (if not all) life in the Alien-Predator universe.

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Concept Art of Prometheus

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Do you think perhaps the cause of the massacre in Covenant is going to be the same creation from Prometheus?

Maybe not, but seeing this artwork. I thought that maybe, they will come back to an idea not used in Prometheus.

The bodies are petrified, like the pictures of Covenant set.

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This is a very strong image, sad and equivocal. It's a scary and original idea of adapting it to the big screen.
I can't stand these movies without visual or artistic interests. This image buries most blockbusters.
This is talent and ingenuity.

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Can't wait for the next.

I couldnt agree more!

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I always wonder: was this just the way the light in the sky was on the day the photo was taken, or will it be lit like this in the film? I personally love how stark and haunting it is, just like this.

Just like O'Bannon once said, "don't paint that facehugger! Leave it flesh-coloured!", I'm sayin' "don't cover that wonderful setpiece with 'eerie' blue light!"

Indeed, but I somehow think we ll see the actual burning sequence, so I believe
it will be shoot in dark.

It's quite possible that we discover this macabre landscape in night.
Is certainly a very important place, we may see this many times .

Whether they are Engineers depends on whether they've updated fashion since we last saw them in rags at the beginning of Prometheus. 'Cuz I see rags.

Who knows? There may be both shots in the dark, on fire, and in the day. Haunting either way, but there's potential in that first portrayal.

Definitely not Alien attack. Perhaps infected with goo, then burned?

I'm pretty sure that the covenant crew walks right on up and over the dead bodies and knocks on the front door. I wonder what they'll see on the inside. It also appears that they're at least 2 types of creatures there.

Quote from: Enoch on Jul 11, 2016, 10:00:58 PM
Indeed, but I somehow think we ll see the actual burning sequence, so I believe
it will be shoot in dark.

They did shoot some pyrotechnics at this location, at night time, so I'd say it's a strong possibility we will see some stuff blowing up on this set. Whether it's the actual event that did this (flashbacks?) or something else remains to be seen though.

I wonder if we'll get to see the engineers being massacred. I doubt it though.

You think we'll see an Engineer vs Engineer fight?

Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 12, 2016, 09:13:44 AM
I wonder if we'll get to see the engineers being massacred. I doubt it though.

I wouldn't be surprised to see it in a flashback or holographic recording.

Quote from: Denton Smalls on Jul 12, 2016, 02:08:03 PM
You think we'll see an Engineer vs Engineer fight?

Maybe not Engineer vs Engineer but Engineer vs. Jockey or wherever they take this Engineer's God angle.

Just occured to me, Conevant is a colony ship right... could these guys be the cargo i.e. colonists?

QuoteJust occured to me, Conevant is a colony ship right... could these guys be the cargo i.e. colonists?

I'm just guessing, but I think the Covenant ship is more about scouting the potential of new habitable environments, not necessary transporting or ferrying people over to them.

I could be totally wrong though, just a wild guess.

Quote from: Denton Smalls on Jul 13, 2016, 11:04:23 PM

QuoteJust occured to me, Conevant is a colony ship right... could these guys be the cargo i.e. colonists?

I'm just guessing, but I think the Covenant ship is more about scouting the potential of new habitable environments, not necessary transporting or ferrying people over to them.

I could be totally wrong though, just a wild guess.

It's a shake and Bake operation. They're probably there to set up those atmospheric processor units to only discovered upon landing that someone had beat them too it.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 12, 2016, 02:19:58 PM

Quote from: Denton Smalls on Jul 12, 2016, 02:08:03 PM
You think we'll see an Engineer vs Engineer fight?

Maybe not Engineer vs Engineer but Engineer vs. Jockey or wherever they take this Engineer's God angle.

I think Ridley is going to make that correction. Wouldn't it be amazing if it was an the Alien God inside of the Jockey suit and what erupted out of it's chest is the bastardization of god. In any case I think Ridley's going to come through and make the Jockey something more than just an engineer.

Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 13, 2016, 11:43:59 PM

Quote from: Denton Smalls on Jul 13, 2016, 11:04:23 PM

QuoteJust occured to me, Conevant is a colony ship right... could these guys be the cargo i.e. colonists?

I'm just guessing, but I think the Covenant ship is more about scouting the potential of new habitable environments, not necessary transporting or ferrying people over to them.

I could be totally wrong though, just a wild guess.

It's a shake and Bake operation. They're probably there to set up those atmospheric processor units to only discovered upon landing that someone had beat them too it.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 12, 2016, 02:19:58 PM

Quote from: Denton Smalls on Jul 12, 2016, 02:08:03 PM
You think we'll see an Engineer vs Engineer fight?

Maybe not Engineer vs Engineer but Engineer vs. Jockey or wherever they take this Engineer's God angle.

I think Ridley is going to make that correction. Wouldn't it be amazing if it was an the Alien God inside of the Jockey suit and what erupted out of it's chest is the bastardization of god. In any case I think Ridley's going to come through and make the Jockey something more than just an engineer.

Letting loose the Serpent on Paradise

So I just re-read this and was reminded of the images of the stone statues that appear decapitated.
Could be a coincidence but never-the-less this link describes similar concept art.

"Other works looked like Valley of the Kings Egypt only on a Dark World, it featured rows of Statues some Human looking some not so Human, pretty much like Egyption Statues at Valley of the Kings and they were not in pristine condition but damaged - some decapitated, to show that these things are Ancient and Neglected...

Then at the bottom of this like path that contained statues was a Black Obelisk that had life to it, well it was not derelict and had Green Glow in the centre similar to the Crystal in Prometheus."


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QuoteIn any case I think Ridley's going to come through and make the Jockey something more than just an engineer.

Definitely hope so man. Size-wise I wasn't thrilled about how they considerably shrunk down the Engineers from the Jockey in the original.

QuoteThen at the bottom of this like path that contained statues was a Black Obelisk that had life to it, well it was not derelict and had Green Glow in the centre similar to the Crystal in Prometheus."

This is a cool article, thanks for sharing. Always wondered about the significance of the green crystal.

I took it to mean something like Jurassic Park when the Dino DNA was in the crystallized ember but I hope they go into it.