Title: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 16, 2015, 08:11:11 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 16, 2015, 08:11:11 AM
Throughout 2014 and into 2015 Titan Books republished all four of Alan Dean Foster and A.C Crispin’s adaptations of the Alien films to accompany their own original Alien novel trilogy. It would appear that to accompany their new Aliens vs. Predator novel trilogy, Rage War, Titan will now be republishing some of the older Bantam novels:
These are currently the only 3 omnibus available on the Titan website and they cover 7 of the 9 Aliens novels that Bantam published, leaving Music of the Spears and the very hard to find Berserker to potentially show up in a fourth omnibus. These novels were all adaptations of Dark Horse comic series of the same name.
The first is due for release on 19 January 2016, with the second slated for release 28 June 2016 and then finally the third on 27 December 2016. There are currently no dates for the last 2 books (Alien: Invasion and AvP: Armageddon) of the Rage War series but the first, Predator: Incursion is due out shortly on the 20th of October. Thanks to Jean-Francois Boivin from Timeline of the Alien and Predator Universe for the tip.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 16, 2015, 08:34:37 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 16, 2015, 08:34:37 AM
Great, I literally just completed my collection of these the other day and now this :P
Still, not too keen on that cover art so I'm kinda glad I have the originals. The second two look like ACM screenshots to me!
Still, not too keen on that cover art so I'm kinda glad I have the originals. The second two look like ACM screenshots to me!
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 16, 2015, 08:40:08 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 16, 2015, 08:40:08 AM
I think they are screenshots. I miss the old painted covers too. That said, it's nice that these are seeing reprints. They're cheap and easy enough to find on eBay but this'll put them back on the book shelf in brick and mortar stores which is good.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 16, 2015, 08:46:37 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 16, 2015, 08:46:37 AM
Yeah, good that there putting them out there again after so long.
I'm pretty sure the last salvo of Bantam books (Berserker, Big Game and War) were never actually published in the UK - at least, I've never seen a British copy for sale anywhere. Only American imports. So if they finish off the run of these with a Volume 4 that'll probably be the first time Berserker's ever been released in the UK.
I'm pretty sure the last salvo of Bantam books (Berserker, Big Game and War) were never actually published in the UK - at least, I've never seen a British copy for sale anywhere. Only American imports. So if they finish off the run of these with a Volume 4 that'll probably be the first time Berserker's ever been released in the UK.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 16, 2015, 08:56:48 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 16, 2015, 08:56:48 AM
Was it Millennium that published them over here?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 16, 2015, 08:58:29 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 16, 2015, 08:58:29 AM
Yep. Except Concrete Jungle for some reason, that has a different publisher's logo that I don't recognise. Definitely a British copy though because it has the UK cover art.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 16, 2015, 09:03:38 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 16, 2015, 09:03:38 AM
I've only ever seen the Bantam version of Berserker too. You know what, if they do do a fourth volume with Berserker that would be really damn good. So many people would get easy access to it. And it's one of the better books too (maybe my favourite, actually) - well worth reading.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 16, 2015, 09:19:59 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 16, 2015, 09:19:59 AM
I haven't quite got around to it yet. Labyrinth is next on my list but I've gotten sidelined but some other books recently :)
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 16, 2015, 09:32:06 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 16, 2015, 09:32:06 AM
I'm finding myself buying too many books at the minute but I plan on going back and re-reading more of the older novels when I get chance. I can't remember what I really thought of some of them - Rogue, Harvest or Labyrinth in particular.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 16, 2015, 09:41:02 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 16, 2015, 09:41:02 AM
Rogue's been by far my favourite so far.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Oct 16, 2015, 02:35:11 PM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Oct 16, 2015, 02:35:11 PM
Very interesting. From my perspective, it would be great if they re-edited these books and did away with Wilks and Billie and re-instated Hicks and Newt as per the original graphic novels on which volume 1 is based. My feelings on this are well known. But I don't expect much to come of this.
Wonder how Dark Horse is involved in this and if this effects future DHP / Titan co-operation.
I expect that these books will specifically be described as non-canon. Even if Hicks and Newt are re-established as alive in Blomkamp's film, you can't account for the elephant-nosed aliens in volume 1 without ignoring Prometheus.
But it is great to see that old EU is not being treated as Apocrypha and these stories still have a life. In a subtle way it hopefully implies that some of the old stories that are outside the current canon may be, dare I say, expanded upon?
Wonder how Dark Horse is involved in this and if this effects future DHP / Titan co-operation.
I expect that these books will specifically be described as non-canon. Even if Hicks and Newt are re-established as alive in Blomkamp's film, you can't account for the elephant-nosed aliens in volume 1 without ignoring Prometheus.
But it is great to see that old EU is not being treated as Apocrypha and these stories still have a life. In a subtle way it hopefully implies that some of the old stories that are outside the current canon may be, dare I say, expanded upon?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Christophe on Oct 16, 2015, 03:03:18 PM
Post by: Christophe on Oct 16, 2015, 03:03:18 PM
Alien: Invasion is coming out April 26, 2016.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: CrespiChickenStrips on Oct 16, 2015, 04:40:40 PM
Post by: CrespiChickenStrips on Oct 16, 2015, 04:40:40 PM
I remember enjoying Labyrinth, Spears, and Rogue most,
And Harvest/Genocide least. Their quality usually depended on the authors writing style, as I thought most of the storylines were at least interesting.
And Harvest/Genocide least. Their quality usually depended on the authors writing style, as I thought most of the storylines were at least interesting.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Oct 16, 2015, 07:11:33 PM
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Oct 16, 2015, 07:11:33 PM
Nightmare Asylum is my fave of the books. Actually its my fave of the early comic series as well. Back when it was just Book 2
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Born Of Cold Light on Oct 16, 2015, 08:20:07 PM
Post by: Born Of Cold Light on Oct 16, 2015, 08:20:07 PM
How different are the novels from the comic book versions of the stories? I'm thinking about getting these, but I don't just want to read something that won't give me anything new.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Lonely Universe on Oct 16, 2015, 08:52:14 PM
Post by: Lonely Universe on Oct 16, 2015, 08:52:14 PM
Oh this is great! I would imagine these will stretch into the later Dark Horse published novels as well. I'd buy every single one, despite already having the old printings.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Oct 16, 2015, 09:01:41 PM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Oct 16, 2015, 09:01:41 PM
Quote from: Born Of Cold Light on Oct 16, 2015, 08:20:07 PM
How different are the novels from the comic book versions of the stories? I'm thinking about getting these, but I don't just want to read something that won't give me anything new.
It's been ages since I read these and I actually never read the later volumes. But the volume 1 which contains the Mark Verheiden series of books actually deviates somewhat from the original comics. Hicks and Newt have been replaced with Wilks and Billie for starters. If I remember correctly, the last story in this first volume (Female War) was significantly modified in some sections of the story. It would be amazing if they restored Wilks and Billie, to Hicks and Newt but we won't know if they made that change till later. It seems very unlikely to me.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 17, 2015, 07:29:36 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 17, 2015, 07:29:36 AM
I believe that the first time the names were actually changed were for the books and then comics followed suite and replaced them for the reprints. I think. I'm never too sure what the timeline is. But in general they also expand outwards from the comics too, offer more insight into pretty much every element.
And I'd like to see them do an edition where it's Hicks and Newt and with some minor changes to their backstory. It'd never happen but it'd be nice enough to see.
And I'd like to see them do an edition where it's Hicks and Newt and with some minor changes to their backstory. It'd never happen but it'd be nice enough to see.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Oct 17, 2015, 02:10:02 PM
Post by: Xenomrph on Oct 17, 2015, 02:10:02 PM
Quote from: Born Of Cold Light on Oct 16, 2015, 08:20:07 PMThey're worth picking up. They expand on the plots and characters in ways that the comics couldn't (due to limitations of the medium, or length limitations, etc) and are generally better written narrative and character-wise than the comics they're based on.
How different are the novels from the comic book versions of the stories? I'm thinking about getting these, but I don't just want to read something that won't give me anything new.
The exception in my opinion is Labyrinth, I much prefer the comic over the novel.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: hawkangel on Oct 17, 2015, 02:59:52 PM
Post by: hawkangel on Oct 17, 2015, 02:59:52 PM
So, are these canon? New Aliens EU reader here...
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Lonely Universe on Oct 17, 2015, 04:10:01 PM
Post by: Lonely Universe on Oct 17, 2015, 04:10:01 PM
It's still sort of up in the air whether they are canon or not. They are definitely canon to the old EU, but that was supposed to be discontinued when Fire & Stone came out. No bother, they are worth reading anyway. You won't regret it, there's a lot of great stories in there.
There's a thread that chronologically lists everything in the current EU.
There's a thread that chronologically lists everything in the current EU.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 17, 2015, 05:35:57 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 17, 2015, 05:35:57 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 17, 2015, 07:29:36 AMI believe that the first time the names were actually changed were for the books and then comics followed suite and replaced them for the reprints. I think. I'm never too sure what the timeline is.
Yeah, the altered characters were created for the books as they started coming out just after Alien 3, then they edited the comics and reprinted them a few years later (Earth Hive was published in 1992, the first edited version of Book One was Aliens, Vol. 1: Outbreak, published in 1996).
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Born Of Cold Light on Oct 17, 2015, 08:17:59 PM
Post by: Born Of Cold Light on Oct 17, 2015, 08:17:59 PM
I've personally always felt that the Wilks/Billie switch was weak and pointless, and I always saw the EU as an alternate timeline.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: RakaiThwei on Oct 17, 2015, 10:39:39 PM
Post by: RakaiThwei on Oct 17, 2015, 10:39:39 PM
Quote from: hawkangel on Oct 17, 2015, 02:59:52 PM
So, are these canon? New Aliens EU reader here...
Twenty years ago, they were..
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Oct 21, 2015, 03:28:43 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Oct 21, 2015, 03:28:43 AM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Oct 17, 2015, 10:39:39 PMMuch more recently than that, actually.Quote from: hawkangel on Oct 17, 2015, 02:59:52 PM
So, are these canon? New Aliens EU reader here...
Twenty years ago, they were..
Heck for all we know, they still are. :)
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Lonely Universe on Oct 21, 2015, 04:18:56 AM
Post by: Lonely Universe on Oct 21, 2015, 04:18:56 AM
They really could be, I don't see why they would be reprinting them if not.
Perhaps since F&S didn't rock the world (& in light of the approaching films) Dark Horse & Titan decided to downplay the whole reboot until they have more solid ground.
Personally I think the original EU is too quality rich to lose most of it, give or take a few things.
Perhaps since F&S didn't rock the world (& in light of the approaching films) Dark Horse & Titan decided to downplay the whole reboot until they have more solid ground.
Personally I think the original EU is too quality rich to lose most of it, give or take a few things.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Oct 21, 2015, 06:11:21 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Oct 21, 2015, 06:11:21 AM
Agreed. There's some things I wouldn't mind abandoning I guess, but there's a bunch of really cool stuff I'd hate to lose.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Born Of Cold Light on Oct 22, 2015, 02:31:59 AM
Post by: Born Of Cold Light on Oct 22, 2015, 02:31:59 AM
Both the stories More Than Human and Three World War were explicitly set in the old continuity. While there were definitely some duds, I do think it would be a terrible shame if the whole thing were scrapped.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: predxeno on Oct 23, 2015, 05:30:52 AM
Post by: predxeno on Oct 23, 2015, 05:30:52 AM
The novels are amazing, they often add new scenes or subplots that the comics just skip over; I always read the novels before the comics for this exact reason.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Ultramorph on Oct 23, 2015, 11:14:59 AM
Post by: Ultramorph on Oct 23, 2015, 11:14:59 AM
I'll probably pick these up. I haven't read the old Dark Horse novels in 10 years or so. It'll be cool to revisit them. I wonder if they'll eventually reprint the DH Press novels, too?
Hopefully they reprint the Predator novels for that movie's 30th in 2017.
Hopefully they reprint the Predator novels for that movie's 30th in 2017.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: predxeno on Oct 23, 2015, 02:59:10 PM
Post by: predxeno on Oct 23, 2015, 02:59:10 PM
I noticed that they're missing the Aliens: Berserker novel in the line-up. I wonder why's that. ???
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Oct 24, 2015, 08:32:59 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Oct 24, 2015, 08:32:59 AM
Berserker and Music of the Spears, actually. Corporal Hicks mentioned that in the OP, maybe they're saving them for a 4th omnibus.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: predxeno on Oct 25, 2015, 12:30:57 AM
Post by: predxeno on Oct 25, 2015, 12:30:57 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot about Music of the Spears; they better be saving it for a 4th Omnibus otherwise what's the point?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Oct 25, 2015, 06:19:46 PM
Post by: Xenomrph on Oct 25, 2015, 06:19:46 PM
I wonder if they'll reprint the AvP novels, or the Predator ones (although they might hold off until Shane Black's Predator movie is closer on the horizon).
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 26, 2015, 08:33:04 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 26, 2015, 08:33:04 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 25, 2015, 06:19:46 PMI wonder if they'll reprint the AvP novels, or the Predator ones (although they might hold off until Shane Black's Predator movie is closer on the horizon).
I'd like to see them reissue the Predator novelisations like they did the four Alien ones. Predator 2 is a great read.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Oct 26, 2015, 10:41:04 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Oct 26, 2015, 10:41:04 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 26, 2015, 08:33:04 AMI wouldn't be surprised if that happened, as well.Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 25, 2015, 06:19:46 PMI wonder if they'll reprint the AvP novels, or the Predator ones (although they might hold off until Shane Black's Predator movie is closer on the horizon).
I'd like to see them reissue the Predator novelisations like they did the four Alien ones. Predator 2 is a great read.
I've still got my first edition copies of all of the Aliens/Predator/AvP novels (and they're all in largely very good shape) sitting on my shelf, so I don't really need to re-buy any of them.
I actually have 2 copies of the ADF Alien movie novelizations, but that's because one copy is the UK omnibus collection that's super convenient, and the others are the individual books that I'm hesitant to get rid of because, well, they're first editions.
Like yeah I don't really like having duplicates on my shelf because I've got barely enough space as it is, but it doesn't feel right to get rid of either copy for some reason.
Also did Titan republish the Alien Resurrection novelization? Or just the 3 ADF ones?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 26, 2015, 10:58:52 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 26, 2015, 10:58:52 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 26, 2015, 10:41:04 AMI've still got my first edition copies of all of the Aliens/Predator/AvP novels (and they're all in largely very good shape) sitting on my shelf, so I don't really need to re-buy any of them.
I have copies, but if its a book I'd like to keep I'd prefer to have a nice new shiny one. The two Predator novelisations I have are seriously ratty.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 26, 2015, 10:41:04 AMAlso did Titan republish the Alien Resurrection novelization? Or just the 3 ADF ones?
They did, earlier this year. There was a bit of a gap from the first three but they did get around to it.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Randomizer on Dec 05, 2015, 07:42:17 PM
Post by: Randomizer on Dec 05, 2015, 07:42:17 PM
I'm finally getting around to reading them, and I decided that starting with the originals first is better, then I'll read Incursion and go full circle. But I'm still curious about the changes the books have to suffer... Maybe more open to interpretations?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 06, 2015, 09:22:46 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 06, 2015, 09:22:46 AM
It makes no difference which way round you read them really. Books 1 - 4 form an arc. The rest are largely stand alones. The only thing that really sticks out is the Earth invasion. Sometimes the editing away of Hicks and Newt gets a bit sloppy though.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 08, 2015, 05:08:38 PM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Dec 08, 2015, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: Randomizer on Dec 05, 2015, 07:42:17 PM
I'm finally getting around to reading them, and I decided that starting with the originals first is better, then I'll read Incursion and go full circle. But I'm still curious about the changes the books have to suffer... Maybe more open to interpretations?
As you say, the books DID suffer. Some would say it doesn't matter, but the reality is that you end up reading the first books knowing that the characters were originally intended to be Hicks and Newt, but it feels like with every mention of Wilks and Billie, somebody is trying to fool you. It's a little thing but it feels your getting a rain drop on your head every couple of seconds. The great thing is that the originals are still out there in graphic novel format. Do yourself a favor and pick them up. Earth Hive was originally titled Book One. Nightmare Asylum was originally titled Book Two. The Female War was originally titled Earth War. Besides, the original Book On is slated for rerelease in hard cover soon! Enjoy...
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2015, 07:52:20 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2015, 07:52:20 AM
Found a surprise delivery waiting for me when I got home yesterday.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXbFF0hWMAAB7xZ.jpg:large)
I had a flick through it - was only passing by - and it had there being 7 omnibus volumes due for release.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXbFF0hWMAAB7xZ.jpg:large)
I had a flick through it - was only passing by - and it had there being 7 omnibus volumes due for release.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Dec 30, 2015, 12:27:17 PM
Post by: felix on Dec 30, 2015, 12:27:17 PM
That's a surprise. How did you get it so early?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2015, 12:30:13 PM
I get sent books for review.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Dec 30, 2015, 01:50:16 PM
Post by: felix on Dec 30, 2015, 01:50:16 PM
Neat. How many pages is the book by the way?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2015, 01:55:15 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2015, 01:55:15 PM
I'll double check when I get home. Just at work at the minute. Not that I'm actually doing any.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Dec 30, 2015, 02:12:02 PM
Post by: felix on Dec 30, 2015, 02:12:02 PM
Okay. Thanks!
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 30, 2015, 09:22:43 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 30, 2015, 09:22:43 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2015, 07:52:20 AMI had a flick through it - was only passing by - and it had there being 7 omnibus volumes due for release.
Wow, as many as that? All Aliens or will they be doing the old Predator and AVP books too?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Ultramorph on Dec 30, 2015, 09:28:56 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on Dec 30, 2015, 09:28:56 PM
Maybe they'll also do omnibi of the DH Press Aliens and Predator books? That would be cool given how hard to come by a few of those are.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: The Alien Predator on Dec 30, 2015, 09:44:50 PM
Post by: The Alien Predator on Dec 30, 2015, 09:44:50 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 30, 2015, 09:22:43 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2015, 07:52:20 AMI had a flick through it - was only passing by - and it had there being 7 omnibus volumes due for release.
Wow, as many as that? All Aliens or will they be doing the old Predator and AVP books too?
I'd really love that!
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2015, 09:58:10 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2015, 09:58:10 PM
Quote from: felix on Dec 30, 2015, 01:50:16 PM
Neat. How many pages is the book by the way?
Just over 800
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 30, 2015, 09:22:43 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2015, 07:52:20 AMI had a flick through it - was only passing by - and it had there being 7 omnibus volumes due for release.
Wow, as many as that? All Aliens or will they be doing the old Predator and AVP books too?
Just says Alien.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Dec 31, 2015, 06:59:27 AM
Post by: felix on Dec 31, 2015, 06:59:27 AM
Are there enough Alien stories to cover 7 Omnibus Vols?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 31, 2015, 08:33:06 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 31, 2015, 08:33:06 AM
As far as the original Bantam books go, Aliens alone will take them to Omnibus 4.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Lonely Universe on Jan 01, 2016, 05:53:51 AM
Post by: Lonely Universe on Jan 01, 2016, 05:53:51 AM
Incredible news! This must mean they'll be doing the Dark Horse novels as well.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Jan 02, 2016, 09:07:19 AM
Post by: felix on Jan 02, 2016, 09:07:19 AM
Dark Horse Novels? I am not familiar with them.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jan 02, 2016, 10:54:13 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jan 02, 2016, 10:54:13 AM
The books from 2005-2008 (Aliens: Original Sin through to Predator: South China Sea) were published by DH Press, which is the novel publishing arm of Dark Horse.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 02, 2016, 06:04:09 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 02, 2016, 06:04:09 PM
If they stick to 2 an omnibus it would work out. However, I'm not sold on that happening. I could see a novelization omnibus, the 2014 trilogy and then maybe the Rage Wars.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Randomizer on Jan 02, 2016, 08:54:53 PM
Post by: Randomizer on Jan 02, 2016, 08:54:53 PM
I upvote this ! I'm particularly interested in Rogue and Music of the Spears, yet they're as obscure as Donald Duck's middle name (What, you're telling me Chex Quest has a community?).
Although I'm not too keen on having these stacked up in omnibuses, there's hope that they are at least marked accordingly.
Although I'm not too keen on having these stacked up in omnibuses, there's hope that they are at least marked accordingly.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jan 03, 2016, 04:22:21 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jan 03, 2016, 04:22:21 PM
Quote from: Randomizer on Jan 02, 2016, 08:54:53 PMI upvote this ! I'm particularly interested in Rogue and Music of the Spears, yet they're as obscure as Donald Duck's middle name.
Rogue was the last Aliens novel I read, and it was easily my favourite so far.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 05, 2016, 09:03:40 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 05, 2016, 09:03:40 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 03, 2016, 04:22:21 PMQuote from: Randomizer on Jan 02, 2016, 08:54:53 PMI upvote this ! I'm particularly interested in Rogue and Music of the Spears, yet they're as obscure as Donald Duck's middle name.
Rogue was the last Aliens novel I read, and it was easily my favourite so far.
I'm quite looking forward to re-reading these older ones to refresh my memory. I think outside of the first 2 (oh and Genocide & Music of the Spears) and the AvPs, I never read the Bantam novels more than once.
I started re-reading Earth Hive yesterday. Picked up a few details I didn't remember - mention of Acturian wasps being deadly and the AI in the psych hospital Billie was kept at being called Grandmother.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 06, 2016, 07:26:57 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 06, 2016, 07:26:57 PM
I'd forgot how awful Perry's sex scenes were! :laugh:
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Randomizer on Jan 19, 2016, 07:33:30 PM
Post by: Randomizer on Jan 19, 2016, 07:33:30 PM
Does anyone know if these are available as eBooks, or were made for the sole purpose of being back in stores?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 20, 2016, 01:39:03 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 20, 2016, 01:39:03 PM
Quote from: Randomizer on Jan 19, 2016, 07:33:30 PM
Does anyone know if these are available as eBooks, or were made for the sole purpose of being back in stores?
I don't know mate. I will ask for you though.
I've uploaded my review for the first book in the Omnibus, Earth Hive. http://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/aliens-earth-hive/
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: TheBATMAN on Jan 20, 2016, 03:49:52 PM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Jan 20, 2016, 03:49:52 PM
Perhaps he couldn't use terms like 'Pulse Rifle' and 'APC' due to some kind of licensing issue? I seem to recall the original conic was not allowed to use the company for some reason. It seems pretty clear that Bionational was intended to be weyland-yutani.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jan 20, 2016, 03:51:38 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jan 20, 2016, 03:51:38 PM
Pulse Rifle perhaps, but APC? That's a completely generic military term.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: TheBATMAN on Jan 20, 2016, 05:35:23 PM
Post by: TheBATMAN on Jan 20, 2016, 05:35:23 PM
Then I don't know, but there must be some underlying reason somewhere.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Randomizer on Jan 20, 2016, 06:08:23 PM
Post by: Randomizer on Jan 20, 2016, 06:08:23 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 20, 2016, 01:39:03 PMQuote from: Randomizer on Jan 19, 2016, 07:33:30 PM
Does anyone know if these are available as eBooks, or were made for the sole purpose of being back in stores?
I don't know mate. I will ask for you though.
I've uploaded my review for the first book in the Omnibus, Earth Hive. http://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/aliens-earth-hive/
Thanks. I can't get these as paperbacks: they either cost too much to get 'em shipped (delivery included) than they're worth, or I can't get them AT ALL. Reading them as eBooks is more convenient.
I thought the review was going to be all-in-one originally. You misspelled "Buddha" as "Budha" back there. :P
Quote from: ArticleAnother issue I had with the comic series that ported across to the novelization was in the terminology. The weapons are called blasters, the APC has become some sort of amalgamation of a dropship and APC. It's a small issue but one I find quite grating and could have been one that was fixed by Perry for the novelization. It just didn't feel as if it was properly part of the Aliens universe.
Was this problem fixed in the Omnibus? I....IT was pissing me off beyond limits in the original.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 20, 2016, 07:24:53 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 20, 2016, 07:24:53 PM
Quote from: Randomizer on Jan 20, 2016, 06:08:23 PM
I thought the review was going to be all-in-one originally. You misspelled "Buddha" as "Budha" back there. :P
Spell check didn't pick that one up. Thanks
QuoteQuote from: ArticleAnother issue I had with the comic series that ported across to the novelization was in the terminology. The weapons are called blasters, the APC has become some sort of amalgamation of a dropship and APC. It's a small issue but one I find quite grating and could have been one that was fixed by Perry for the novelization. It just didn't feel as if it was properly part of the Aliens universe.
Was this problem fixed in the Omnibus? I....IT was pissing me off beyond limits in the original.
It was not.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2016, 11:19:18 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2016, 11:19:18 AM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/aliens-nightmare-asylum/
My thoughts on Nightmare Asylum. I know HuDa wont agree with me. :laugh:
My thoughts on Nightmare Asylum. I know HuDa wont agree with me. :laugh:
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 02, 2016, 11:23:16 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 02, 2016, 11:23:16 AM
You can't be right all the time/You're a grunt, you're not paid to think etc. :P
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2016, 11:25:13 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2016, 11:25:13 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Feb 02, 2016, 11:23:16 AM
You can't be right all the time/You're a grunt, you're not paid to think etc. :P
At least the guy in my avatar made it to the end of the film! :P
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 02, 2016, 11:30:57 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Feb 02, 2016, 11:30:57 AM
I see your survival and raise you a breakfast-in-bed cigar.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Randomizer on Feb 02, 2016, 05:47:17 PM
Post by: Randomizer on Feb 02, 2016, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2016, 11:19:18 AM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/aliens-nightmare-asylum/
My thoughts on Nightmare Asylum. I know HuDa wont agree with me. :laugh:
Woah, that was close. I read the review without actually finishing the book.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 20, 2016, 01:39:03 PMQuote from: Randomizer on Jan 19, 2016, 07:33:30 PM
Does anyone know if these are available as eBooks, or were made for the sole purpose of being back in stores?
I don't know mate. I will ask for you though.
I've uploaded my review for the first book in the Omnibus, Earth Hive. http://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/aliens-earth-hive/
Have you managed to get an answer for that?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2016, 06:21:42 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2016, 06:21:42 PM
Quote from: Randomizer on Feb 02, 2016, 05:47:17 PM
Woah, that was close. I read the review without actually finishing the book.
I don't think I spoiled it much did I?
Quote
Have you managed to get an answer for that?
Sorry, not yet.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Randomizer on Feb 02, 2016, 07:21:31 PM
Post by: Randomizer on Feb 02, 2016, 07:21:31 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 02, 2016, 06:21:42 PMQuote from: Randomizer on Feb 02, 2016, 05:47:17 PM
Woah, that was close. I read the review without actually finishing the book.
I don't think I spoiled it much did I?Quote
Have you managed to get an answer for that?
Sorry, not yet.
You didn't. MAYBE just a little hint at...
(Possible spoiler?)
Spoiler
General Spears becoming a villain. Sensing from the uneasiness of the first encounter, it seems way too predictable.
[close]
I'm just curious getting the Omnibus for one reason: possible edits. I know these are most likely small and won't add to the story too much, but since it's my first time reading these books, I might as well go for it.
Something like the 2010 reprint of Halo: The Fall of Reach minus the Adjunct section.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2016, 10:26:00 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2016, 10:26:00 AM
My last review for Volume 1 is now up! http://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/aliens-the-female-war/
There does appear to be Kindle versions of these now. :)
Quote from: Randomizer on Jan 19, 2016, 07:33:30 PM
Does anyone know if these are available as eBooks, or were made for the sole purpose of being back in stores?
There does appear to be Kindle versions of these now. :)
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Apr 07, 2016, 01:02:28 PM
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Apr 07, 2016, 01:02:28 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2016, 10:26:00 AM
My last review for Volume 1 is now up! http://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/aliens-female-war/
For some reason its saying the page isnt found
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2016, 01:06:24 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2016, 01:06:24 PM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature/reviews/aliens-the-female-war/
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Apr 07, 2016, 01:12:48 PM
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Apr 07, 2016, 01:12:48 PM
Its working now. Thanks Hicks
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Darkness on Apr 07, 2016, 04:28:50 PM
Post by: Darkness on Apr 07, 2016, 04:28:50 PM
Are these novels all part of the same story and continuity?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 07, 2016, 05:03:50 PM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 07, 2016, 05:03:50 PM
These novels are indeed part of one continuity. They are adaptations of graphic novels of the same name. Now keep in mind that the graphic novels are derived from an earlier graphic novel version of the trilogy. The key difference between the graphic novels, was that the original version was intended to be a continuation of the story of Hicks and Newt after the Aliens film. When Alien 3 came out, effectively negating the existence of Hicks and Newt post-Aliens, the names of these characters were changed to Wilks and Billie.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Randomizer on Apr 07, 2016, 05:32:37 PM
Post by: Randomizer on Apr 07, 2016, 05:32:37 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2016, 10:26:00 AMQuote from: Randomizer on Jan 19, 2016, 07:33:30 PM
Does anyone know if these are available as eBooks, or were made for the sole purpose of being back in stores?
There does appear to be Kindle versions of these now. :)
I know, already picked one. I think they've been available since the 12th of March.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: 426Buddy on Apr 07, 2016, 06:21:37 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Apr 07, 2016, 06:21:37 PM
I've avoided Female War for like 20 years or more lol. but I finally caved and ordered the comic version, because I have all the other "Library Edition" Graphic novels. Even as a kid when I was lucky enough to be in a comic book store down state, I would be trying to decide on an aliens graphic novel and I would always put Female war back on the shelf. The art is just so terrible I didn't want it even though I needed it to complete my set. Oh well its on the way now, soon i'll have to decide whether or not to read the novels.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2016, 06:22:18 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2016, 06:22:18 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 07, 2016, 05:03:50 PM
They are adaptations of graphic novels of the same name. Now keep in mind that the graphic novels are derived from an earlier graphic novel version of the trilogy.
Wrong way around. The novelizations are based on the original versions with Hicks and Newt. The Perrys did the retcons first. Then the newer versions of the graphic novels came out and used the novelization names.
Quote from: Darkness on Apr 07, 2016, 04:28:50 PM
Are these novels all part of the same story and continuity?
Yeah they were based on the very first Hicks and Newt comics. To be fair, all the older Bantam novels and Dark Horse graphic novels were in the same continuity, there were just some contradictions and Resurrection wiping them all out.
Quote from: Randomizer on Apr 07, 2016, 05:32:37 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2016, 10:26:00 AMQuote from: Randomizer on Jan 19, 2016, 07:33:30 PM
Does anyone know if these are available as eBooks, or were made for the sole purpose of being back in stores?
There does appear to be Kindle versions of these now. :)
I know, already picked one. I think they've been available since the 12th of March.
Ah, fantastic!
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 07, 2016, 06:32:12 PM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 07, 2016, 06:32:12 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2016, 06:22:18 PMQuote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 07, 2016, 05:03:50 PM
They are adaptations of graphic novels of the same name. Now keep in mind that the graphic novels are derived from an earlier graphic novel version of the trilogy.
Wrong way around. The novelizations are based on the original versions with Hicks and Newt. The Perrys did the retcons first. Then the newer versions of the graphic novels came out and used the novelization names.
Is that right? It's so long ago, I don't remember which came first at this point.
Just fixed the quotes. Cpl Hicks.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: LordCassusSnow on Apr 07, 2016, 08:42:14 PM
Post by: LordCassusSnow on Apr 07, 2016, 08:42:14 PM
Funny, i'm sure Alien 3 wiped all that out. Not Resurrection as it came after ::)
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: 426Buddy on Apr 07, 2016, 08:49:40 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Apr 07, 2016, 08:49:40 PM
Alien 3 only wiped the idea of newt and hicks in the EU, which is why it was retconned. The rest of the EU could get along with Alien3 until Alien Res came along and said there hadn't been any aliens found in 200 years since alien3.
I wish darkhorse hadn't been so keen on keeping the EU inline with the films. You would think after Alien3 came out that they would have realized that Fox had no interest in maintaining a canon EU with the franchise.
I wish darkhorse hadn't been so keen on keeping the EU inline with the films. You would think after Alien3 came out that they would have realized that Fox had no interest in maintaining a canon EU with the franchise.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2016, 08:52:30 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 07, 2016, 08:52:30 PM
Quote from: LordCassusSnow on Apr 07, 2016, 08:42:14 PM
Funny, i'm sure Alien 3 wiped all that out. Not Resurrection as it came after ::)
Thanks, Mr Helpful. :laugh: I'm not referring to the death of Hicks and Newt, I'm talking about the whole existence of any story taking place between Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection. ::)
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 07, 2016, 06:32:12 PM
Is that right? It's so long ago, I don't remember which came first at this point.
Yeah, that's right. I wondered about the correct order of events a few years back and looked into it. I also looked it up again recently when I made the comments in my reviews. Original comics with Hicks and Newt > novelizations with Wilks and Billie > reprinted graphic novels with new titles and new character names.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: LordCassusSnow on Apr 08, 2016, 01:02:52 AM
Post by: LordCassusSnow on Apr 08, 2016, 01:02:52 AM
Lol sorry hicks, couldn't resist ;D But i think i know where your coming from since if the events in the Aliens comics would have passed the alternate events in Alien 3, thus putting female war and so on smack dab in the middle of those two movies(3 and Resurrection. So my bad :-X
420buddy, in my opinion, i think we weren't meant to take what Perez said seriously. The whole project on Auriga seems to be the baby of Dr Ren with Perez as head of security. When we hear him make the statement that Ripley died trying to wipe the species out, he's pretty annoyed and agitated even going as far as being sarcastic with Ren. So i'm pretty sure he was just talking out of his ass as i've heard people say similar things when frustrated by an individual or event or their just being over dramatic. Also, the military might not even be well informed as they might have made the xeno pens acid resistant and would have had better fail safes installed. I like to think the big deletion event in Civilized Beasts happened and wiped out alot of history. It would also fit with Tim Lebbons new trilogy as he reference something similar. Side note, Perez could also be intentionally keeping Ren in the dark. Oh and i just saw a video on youtube that might prove Firefly is canon to everything Alien as one of the moniters from the ships canons displays a Weyland Yutani logo. Sorry if thats already been discussed ;D
420buddy, in my opinion, i think we weren't meant to take what Perez said seriously. The whole project on Auriga seems to be the baby of Dr Ren with Perez as head of security. When we hear him make the statement that Ripley died trying to wipe the species out, he's pretty annoyed and agitated even going as far as being sarcastic with Ren. So i'm pretty sure he was just talking out of his ass as i've heard people say similar things when frustrated by an individual or event or their just being over dramatic. Also, the military might not even be well informed as they might have made the xeno pens acid resistant and would have had better fail safes installed. I like to think the big deletion event in Civilized Beasts happened and wiped out alot of history. It would also fit with Tim Lebbons new trilogy as he reference something similar. Side note, Perez could also be intentionally keeping Ren in the dark. Oh and i just saw a video on youtube that might prove Firefly is canon to everything Alien as one of the moniters from the ships canons displays a Weyland Yutani logo. Sorry if thats already been discussed ;D
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 03:54:53 AM
Post by: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 03:54:53 AM
I have nothing against Perrys, I just prefer the stories the way they were when they were first released in the comic books. The whole thing about changing Newt and Hicks' names was dumb and then making Ripley a robot just doesn't make sense.
Which is why, I'm glad they're rereleasing the Mark Verhieden comic books the way they were when they were released. No more Billie and Wilks. Course, I already have the comic books, my half brother gave me Volume 1 and told me where to get the rest. They're one of my most prized possessions. Too bad they're not as valuable, you'd think reprinted comic books would be more rare. But, as they say on Pawn Stars, just because it's rare doesn't mean it's valuable.
Trying to decide whether I wanna get rereleases and give the old ones back to my half brother, or just keep the ones I got. Love those books.
Which is why, I'm glad they're rereleasing the Mark Verhieden comic books the way they were when they were released. No more Billie and Wilks. Course, I already have the comic books, my half brother gave me Volume 1 and told me where to get the rest. They're one of my most prized possessions. Too bad they're not as valuable, you'd think reprinted comic books would be more rare. But, as they say on Pawn Stars, just because it's rare doesn't mean it's valuable.
Trying to decide whether I wanna get rereleases and give the old ones back to my half brother, or just keep the ones I got. Love those books.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: LordCassusSnow on Apr 08, 2016, 04:11:27 AM
Post by: LordCassusSnow on Apr 08, 2016, 04:11:27 AM
Ripley was an android in that series?? :o Wow now i understand what you guys meant about resurrection! Sorry again!
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 04:22:06 AM
Post by: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 04:22:06 AM
Well, in the original comic books it was Newt, Hicks, and eventually Ripley because they were published before Alien3. Then Alien3 killed off the three of them, so they reprinted the books with Newt as Billie and Hicks as Wilks, and Ripley was the same, don't ask why. Then when the Perrys did the novelizations, they made Ripley an android to explain how she was in the story.
Course, I still don't think this ties with Resurrection, because 1st, they were written before Resurrection, and 2nd, in these books involve the Aliens taking over the Earth, in Resurrection it seems no one knew who the Aliens were. I think even after 200 years, I think people would remember the world becoming an Alien apocalypse.
Course, I still don't think this ties with Resurrection, because 1st, they were written before Resurrection, and 2nd, in these books involve the Aliens taking over the Earth, in Resurrection it seems no one knew who the Aliens were. I think even after 200 years, I think people would remember the world becoming an Alien apocalypse.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: XenoZipper on Apr 08, 2016, 06:08:20 AM
Post by: XenoZipper on Apr 08, 2016, 06:08:20 AM
I've honestly never seen or read the reprinted versions so I had no idea about this Billie & Wilks change until recently. It's always been Newt, Hicks & Ripley to me & I think I'll keep it that way with my original prints. It's nice they're being reprinted (again) for those that haven't read them yet but I think I'm going to have to pass until something I DON'T have already in the comics gets reprinted.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 07:18:58 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 07:18:58 AM
I don't think the retcons really did any harm to it. I think the interity of it starts to fall apart a little when Ripley shows up and only because the comics didn't address it at all (and they miss some of the old names. Ripley still refers to Billie as Newt at some point) and because the novelization never went into the how or why of the Ripley android. Otherwise, I think it worked fine.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 07:44:12 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 07:44:12 AM
Quote from: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 04:22:06 AMThen Alien3 killed off the three of them, so they reprinted the books with Newt as Billie and Hicks as Wilks, and Ripley was the same, don't ask why. Then when the Perrys did the novelizations, they made Ripley an android to explain how she was in the story.
Wrong. As Hicks said, the novels came before the edited comics. The novels started coming out in 1993, the edited comics didn't appear until 1996.
Presumably Ripley was never changed in the comic books because it would've involved a lot more work than just retyping some names. They would've had to create entirely new art and story sequences.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 07:55:29 AM
Post by: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 07:55:29 AM
Well, I like the comic books the way they were before they changed them. I never really liked novelizations of anything, I feel they complicate things. They add material that mucks up things.
Like, this is a horrible example but in AVP they were saying that Charles Bishop Weyland was the ancestor of the man that met Ripley at the end of Alien3. It makes perfect sense since we don't know anything about that man, he could've been the head of Wey-Yu. But the novelization of Alien3 said that he was just an android designer for Wey-Yu and not a Weyland.
Again, horrible example, but doesn't matter now since AVP was retconned and I don't like Alien3.
Like, this is a horrible example but in AVP they were saying that Charles Bishop Weyland was the ancestor of the man that met Ripley at the end of Alien3. It makes perfect sense since we don't know anything about that man, he could've been the head of Wey-Yu. But the novelization of Alien3 said that he was just an android designer for Wey-Yu and not a Weyland.
Again, horrible example, but doesn't matter now since AVP was retconned and I don't like Alien3.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 08:03:55 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 08:03:55 AM
Quote from: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 07:55:29 AMLike, this is a horrible example but in AVP they were saying that Charles Bishop Weyland was the ancestor of the man that met Ripley at the end of Alien3.
Neither the book nor the film of AVP says that.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 08:11:15 AM
Post by: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 08:11:15 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 08:03:55 AM
[Neither the book nor the film of AVP says that.
It's kinda obvious considering that they're the same actor and it's the same company, Weyland Industries and Weyland-Yutani.
Again, doesn't matter anymore. I just don't like novelizations cause they make up stuff that the original writers didn't intend. Like, doesn't the Alien novelization have an Alien with eyes, kills with his hands and no mouth-tongue? Or like, how the Predator novelization has Mac and Blain as both white and racists.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 08:17:16 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 08:17:16 AM
Quote from: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 08:11:15 AMI just don't like novelizations cause they make up stuff that the original writers didn't intend.
They don't "make up stuff that the original writers didn't intend". They're based on earlier versions of the film script and as a result include things that were subsequently changed before/during filming.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 08:22:19 AM
Post by: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 08:22:19 AM
Why don't they just write a novel based on the final product instead earlier drafts they didn't use?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 08:35:00 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 08:35:00 AM
Because the book needs to come out around the same time as the film (in some cases, even before the film). It could take months to write, so the author needs to start early.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 08:43:16 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 08:43:16 AM
Quote from: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 08:22:19 AM
Why don't they just write a novel based on the final product instead earlier drafts they didn't use?
Just to build on HuDa's point, the novelizations are written alongside the film's production, often based on whatever draft they have at the time. Changes made to the film during filming or during editing aren't relayed to the novelizers. In my opinion the most interesting thing about novelizations are those differences between them. :)
Regarding the novelization of the comics - I generally prefer them over the comics. I wouldn't say they muck things up or mess them around, rather it gives them the page space to tell a better story. Comics are quite limited when it comes to the story they can tell but the novelizations aren't and it makes for a better read in my opinion.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 08:59:50 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 08:59:50 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 08:43:16 AMRegarding the novelization of the comics - I generally prefer them over the comics. I wouldn't say they muck things up or mess them around, rather it gives them the page space to tell a better story. Comics are quite limited when it comes to the story they can tell but the novelizations aren't and it makes for a better read in my opinion.
This is why I much prefer the novels. Comics are almost always way too rushed for me, everything is rapid-fire like there's no room for anyone with an attention span. The novels slow things down and add some more substance to the bare bones of the story. The best things the novels do is expand upon the characterisation of the people involved. In the comics I've read, characterisation is often so heavy-handed and shallow that it comes across as naff cliché. I find it hard to know or care who anyone is because they have no meaningful personality. In the books you can actually get inside the characters and learn more about who they are and why they are the person they are.
Case in point, I recently re-read Rogue and then got the comic, and the book is an infinitely more engaging and mature take on the story.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 09:19:30 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 09:19:30 AM
I completely agree. I know you're not really a fan of Nightmare Asylum but I felt the same way about the book. I love the comic but I found the book to be infinitely better because of the expansions it made to the story.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 09:29:28 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 09:29:28 AM
I liked the story in Nightmare Asylum, I just couldn't get passed how silly and over-the-top Spears was. I found him to be a daft caricature.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 09:32:08 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 09:32:08 AM
I doubt we'll ever agree on Spears. :laugh: I think the novel paints him as a much more interesting character with a genuine God complex.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 09:36:52 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 09:36:52 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 09:32:08 AMI doubt we'll ever agree on Spears. :laugh: I think the novel paints him as a much more interesting character with a genuine God complex.
Well, I agree there was the potential for a really interesting character there. I just think they went way too far with the moustache-twirling evil and spoiled it. Stuff like feeding his own men to the Aliens without a second thoguht just because they make some minor infraction. It was too much. I found it completely unbelievable that his own guys wouldn't have turned on him en masse prior to Hicks kicking them into gear, because the guy was just unhinged. It didn't do anything to convince me anyone would put up with his psychosis.
At least in Rogue I found it believable that Kleist's dedicated cadre would agree to help him. His insanity was much more slow-burning and directed largely at the innocent civilians who couldn't really do much to stop him.
But like you said, I don't expect you to agree :)
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: XenoZipper on Apr 08, 2016, 09:42:23 AM
Post by: XenoZipper on Apr 08, 2016, 09:42:23 AM
I actually wouldn't mind reading these adaptions! I've only read the comic versions of these stories. I've never come across the novels anywhere (in a store that is). I have the novel for Predator Cold War, that's the only comic/novel adaption I have which I haven't had time to sit down & read yet.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 09:46:06 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 09:46:06 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 09:36:52 AM
At least in Rogue I found it believable that Kleist's dedicated cadre would agree to help him. His insanity was much more slow-burning and directed largely at the innocent civilians who couldn't really do much to stop him.
It's been a long time since I read the novelization. Considering the praise you often give it I might give this one a re-read soon.
Quote from: XenoZipper on Apr 08, 2016, 09:42:23 AM
I actually wouldn't mind reading these adaptions! I've only read the comic versions of these stories. I've never come across the novels anywhere (in a store that is). I have the novel for Predator Cold War, that's the only comic/novel adaption I have which I haven't had time to sit down & read yet.
You should mate. With the omnibus coming out it'll be pretty easy to grab them at reasonable prices and in good nick.
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Post by: XenoZipper on Apr 08, 2016, 09:52:54 AM
Post by: XenoZipper on Apr 08, 2016, 09:52:54 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 09:46:06 AM
You should mate. With the omnibus coming out it'll be pretty easy to grab them at reasonable prices and in good nick.
I will definitely look into it dude! And I was totally wrong on which novels I have. I thought I had Cold War but I don't. Turns out it was "Aliens vs Predator: Hunter's Planet" & then I also have "Aliens:Harvest" & "Aliens:No Exit". I could have sworn I had Cold War too.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 09:56:16 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 09:56:16 AM
I think I have a spare copy lying around if you need it.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: XenoZipper on Apr 08, 2016, 10:06:48 AM
Post by: XenoZipper on Apr 08, 2016, 10:06:48 AM
Oh wow! I really appreciate the offer but no worries on that my friend. I actually have Amazon open in another window & was just looking for it & when I saw the cover I knew right away. I knew I had it, I must just have it packed away somewhere as I find it odd that it's not with the others. I recently moved a month ago & packed up my stuff really fast like within a week type fast & still haven't unpacked everything. Thanks again for the offer though, that's a sentiment I rarely ever come across.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 10:07:47 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 08, 2016, 10:07:47 AM
Not a problem. :)
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: 426Buddy on Apr 08, 2016, 01:17:39 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Apr 08, 2016, 01:17:39 PM
Comics are a visual medium and its about the art and style more than story and narration. Of course novels are going to have deeper more fleshed out stories and characters, I'm sure that's the whole point of adapting the comics into novels in the first place. It shouldn't be held against the comics as for the most part that's just the nature of the medium.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 08, 2016, 02:00:43 PM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 08, 2016, 02:00:43 PM
It would be great if they took these novels and retconned them so that Wilks and Billie become Hicks and Newt again. Only under such a circumstance would I buy a copy. And I would pick up the omnibus for sure in that case..
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 06:03:50 PM
Post by: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 06:03:50 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 08, 2016, 02:00:43 PM
It would be great if they took these novels and retconned them so that Wilks and Billie become Hicks and Newt again. Only under such a circumstance would I buy a copy. And I would pick up the omnibus for sure in that case..
Thank you. That's exactly my problem.
This is the last thing I'll say about the subject. The problem I have with novelizations is that, movies/comics made into books is almost exactly the same as books made into movies, the adaptation is not as good as the source.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 08, 2016, 06:54:27 PM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 08, 2016, 06:54:27 PM
Quote from: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 06:03:50 PMQuote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 08, 2016, 02:00:43 PM
It would be great if they took these novels and retconned them so that Wilks and Billie become Hicks and Newt again. Only under such a circumstance would I buy a copy. And I would pick up the omnibus for sure in that case..
Thank you. That's exactly my problem.
This is the last thing I'll say about the subject. The problem I have with novelizations is that, movies/comics made into books is almost exactly the same as books made into movies, the adaptation is not as good as the source.
Preach on Number 13. 100% agree.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 07:44:12 AMQuote from: Number13 on Apr 08, 2016, 04:22:06 AMThen Alien3 killed off the three of them, so they reprinted the books with Newt as Billie and Hicks as Wilks, and Ripley was the same, don't ask why. Then when the Perrys did the novelizations, they made Ripley an android to explain how she was in the story.
Wrong. As Hicks said, the novels came before the edited comics. The novels started coming out in 1993, the edited comics didn't appear until 1996.
Presumably Ripley was never changed in the comic books because it would've involved a lot more work than just retyping some names. They would've had to create entirely new art and story sequences.
So let's get this straight once and for all. Here is the sequence of how things unfolded:
-Aliens film
-Aliens Book One
-Aliens Book Two
-Aliens Earth War
-Alien 3 film
-Aliens novels by Perry featuring a retcon with Wilks and Billie to accommodate Alien 3
-Aliens Outbreak (retcon of Book One to accommodate Alien 3)
-Aliens Nightmare Asylum (retcon of Book Two to accommodate Alien 3)
-Aliens Female War (retcon of Earth War to accommodate Alien 3)
-Alien:Resurrection film (eliminates these novels and comics from continuity)
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 11, 2016, 07:42:55 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 11, 2016, 07:42:55 AM
Quote from: 420Buddy on Apr 08, 2016, 01:17:39 PMIt shouldn't be held against the comics as for the most part that's just the nature of the medium.
I'm not holding it against the comics and saying they're rubbish. I'm just saying the shallower storytelling inherent with the format doesn't appeal to me personally. Nice art is all well and god but I need much more than pretty pictures to be fulfilled by a piece of fiction. And I find comics too rushed and devoid of depth in story terms.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 08, 2016, 02:00:43 PMIt would be great if they took these novels and retconned them so that Wilks and Billie become Hicks and Newt again. Only under such a circumstance would I buy a copy.
But why? It wouldn't change anything about the content of the story. The fundamentals would all be exactly the same, just with different names sprinkled throughout. So what if Hicks is in it? All that does is introduce a bunch of background from a much better developed story.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 11, 2016, 07:46:37 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 11, 2016, 07:46:37 AM
I don't think the name change detracts from it. You have some background inherited with the names but Billie and Wilks' backstory is told and it's largely the same. The detractions come from where the retcon isn't so tight - old names spilling through, the lack of explanation for RipleyBot2000.
I suppose it would have also inherited some emotional attachment to the characters straight off the bat too.
I suppose it would have also inherited some emotional attachment to the characters straight off the bat too.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 11, 2016, 02:24:20 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 11, 2016, 02:24:20 PM
I'm not sure relying on character development from a previous story is really good story-writing practice though.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 11, 2016, 02:27:18 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 11, 2016, 02:27:18 PM
Not if you're writing a completely new story. If you're effectively writing a sequel there's nothing wrong with relying on existing development from previous entries.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 11, 2016, 02:28:16 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 11, 2016, 02:28:16 PM
Fair point!
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 11, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 11, 2016, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 11, 2016, 07:42:55 AMQuote from: 420Buddy on Apr 08, 2016, 01:17:39 PMIt shouldn't be held against the comics as for the most part that's just the nature of the medium.
I'm not holding it against the comics and saying they're rubbish. I'm just saying the shallower storytelling inherent with the format doesn't appeal to me personally. Nice art is all well and god but I need much more than pretty pictures to be fulfilled by a piece of fiction. And I find comics too rushed and devoid of depth in story terms.Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 08, 2016, 02:00:43 PMIt would be great if they took these novels and retconned them so that Wilks and Billie become Hicks and Newt again. Only under such a circumstance would I buy a copy.
But why? It wouldn't change anything about the content of the story. The fundamentals would all be exactly the same, just with different names sprinkled throughout. So what if Hicks is in it? All that does is introduce a bunch of background from a much better developed story.
I think its wrong to think that shallow stories are an inherent product of the comic book medium, or any other medium for that matter. It really comes down the the skill of the artist and the writer. Traditionally speaking, yes you're right that comics have tended to be childish and unevolved, but that is always a conscious decision on the part of the creative team's decision to aim at a specific target audience. Have you ever read Watchmen, or perhaps Sandman? Therein lies a rich tapestry of comic book genius that would be disserved by transferring it to novel format.
In regards to the whole Billie and Wilks thing, we've discussed this ad nauseam. I just think it is so tasteless to change the names of the characters. It is cheesy to think that these characters went through the exact same traumatic story and then also found a Ripley-bot to hang out with. Come on. It's childish and self-plagiarizing. Did Mark Verheiden even get credit in the novels? We both know this wasn't done for any artistic merit, but to accommodate Alien 3. Now that there is no need to do that, the comics and the novels should be restored to the original intent. Any other attempt to republish them is just a cash grab, devoid of their artistic merits.
Wilks and Billie simply have no style. It's poor second-hand fiction.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: 426Buddy on Apr 11, 2016, 02:48:45 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Apr 11, 2016, 02:48:45 PM
I just bought and read female war the comic for the first time... and it was pretty terrible. I started the first few pages thinking this might not be so bad, but it is. Outbreak was good, nightmare was great, and female war is just not in the same league at all.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 11, 2016, 02:53:54 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Apr 11, 2016, 02:53:54 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 11, 2016, 02:44:27 PMI think its wrong to think that shallow stories are an inherent product of the comic book medium, or any other medium for that matter. It really comes down the the skill of the artist and the writer. Traditionally speaking, yes you're right that comics have tended to be childish and unevolved, but that is always a conscious decision on the part of the creative team's decision to aim at a specific target audience. Have you ever read Watchmen, or perhaps Sandman? Therein lies a rich tapestry of comic book genius that would be disserved by transferring it to novel format.
I was referring to the few Aliens comics I've read, specifically the early ones. They're nothing like as deep or involved as the novel adaptations, which aren't exactly Shakespeare as it is.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 11, 2016, 02:44:27 PMWilks and Billie simply have no style. It's poor second-hand fiction.
:laugh: But it just isn't though. It's the exact same characters with different names. If you're saying they're badly developed rubbish, then you're basically saying the development of Hicks and Newt in the EU stories was rubbish, because nothing else was altered about them beyond the names printed on the paper.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 11, 2016, 03:12:11 PM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 11, 2016, 03:12:11 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 11, 2016, 02:44:27 PMWilks and Billie simply have no style. It's poor second-hand fiction.
:laugh: But it just isn't though. It's the exact same characters with different names. If you're saying they're badly developed rubbish, then you're basically saying the development of Hicks and Newt in the EU stories was rubbish, because nothing else was altered about them beyond the names printed on the paper.
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The fact that it is so glaringly transparent that they are those other characters and we have to play pretend the whole time is insulting to the reader's intelligence. The stories cease to make sense when they are faced with a Ripley-Bot. The development of Hicks and Newt was good because it was based on the original Aliens film, but the story of Wilks and Billie is flawed because it asks the reader to accept that the exact same story as Aliens happened elsewhere and the only survivors were a little girl and a marine. It's a stretch, and It's trite.
It's like saying that we are going to discover derelict juggernauts on all these planets now. It was innovative in Alien, but then we had it happen in Prometheus where the juggernaut became a derelict, and now we seem to be having it happen in the Life and Death series. We'll see how that one goes.
Then there is also the River of Pain novel where yet again we see a marine with a little girl escape LV-426. Are we really doomed to keep repeating this story? Either continue the actual original tale with the characters who survived, or let it go I say.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on May 02, 2016, 09:50:52 AM
Post by: felix on May 02, 2016, 09:50:52 AM
There are 3 more Omnibus Collections slated for 2017.
I knew Aliens: Original Sins and Steel Egg have yet to be re-released. Anything else?
I knew Aliens: Original Sins and Steel Egg have yet to be re-released. Anything else?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 02, 2016, 10:01:33 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 02, 2016, 10:01:33 AM
None of the DH Press stuff has been republished. I'll be curious to see if they are included in these new omnibus.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on May 02, 2016, 02:41:57 PM
Post by: Xenomrph on May 02, 2016, 02:41:57 PM
I hope so, more people need to read Predator: South China Sea.
On that topic, has Titan said anything about reprinting the old Predator Bantam novels?
On that topic, has Titan said anything about reprinting the old Predator Bantam novels?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Ultramorph on May 02, 2016, 03:56:21 PM
Post by: Ultramorph on May 02, 2016, 03:56:21 PM
They haven't said anything, but with next year being the 30th anniversary of Predator, I would be surprised if they didn't reprint the old books.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on May 10, 2016, 03:15:29 AM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on May 10, 2016, 03:15:29 AM
I was just looking at the first volume at the book store and I did not see Mark Verheiden's name mentioned anywhere on the book. I just don't understand that. These books are clearly a novelization of the graphic novels, yet not even so much as a thank you to Mark Verheiden, (not even to mention the artists who illustrated the original graphic novels). I don't understand how that is even legal. I mean, I know Fox owns the rights, but doesn't this cross over into plagiarism to not credit the original author?
Corporal Hicks, since you plan on interviewing Mark Verheiden in the near future, perhaps it is worth asking him how he feels about this subject.
Corporal Hicks, since you plan on interviewing Mark Verheiden in the near future, perhaps it is worth asking him how he feels about this subject.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2016, 10:08:38 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2016, 10:08:38 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on May 10, 2016, 03:15:29 AMI was just looking at the first volume at the book store and I did not see Mark Verheiden's name mentioned anywhere on the book.
Why should they? The Perrys wrote the novels, not Verheiden. None of the old editions from the 90s credit the people behind the original comics. In many cases, the books were quite significantly altered or expanded by the authors anyway.
Come to think of it, I'm not sure if the original novels even mention that they're adaptations of comics books.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: 426Buddy on May 10, 2016, 02:55:23 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on May 10, 2016, 02:55:23 PM
Maybe i'm crazy but isn't it normal to give credit to the person who created the original published story? The Perry's may have written it, but they are just adapting someone else's original story.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on May 10, 2016, 03:52:13 PM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on May 10, 2016, 03:52:13 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2016, 10:08:38 AMQuote from: Perfect-Organism on May 10, 2016, 03:15:29 AMI was just looking at the first volume at the book store and I did not see Mark Verheiden's name mentioned anywhere on the book.
Why should they? The Perrys wrote the novels, not Verheiden. None of the old editions from the 90s credit the people behind the original comics. In many cases, the books were quite significantly altered or expanded by the authors anyway.
Come to think of it, I'm not sure if the original novels even mention that they're adaptations of comics books.
You have got to be kidding me on 2 levels. Firstly, you really don't think you would need to credit someone for their work if you make a few alterations in an adaptation? You really think that would fly if you were doing something like this in an academic setting? Secondly, are you serious about the original Perry books? Did they really not give credit where it was due?
Does anyone have the original three books on hand that the Perry's did in adapting the Verheiden trilogy? Can you check? I am really curious. I had these books when they came out and I was in high school, but I didn't care to notice back then..
Quote from: 420Buddy on May 10, 2016, 02:55:23 PM
Maybe i'm crazy but isn't it normal to give credit to the person who created the original published story? The Perry's may have written it, but they are just adapting someone else's original story.
You're not crazy. This is just wrong.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2016, 04:05:07 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2016, 04:05:07 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on May 10, 2016, 03:52:13 PMSecondly, are you serious about the original Perry books? Did they really not give credit where it was due?
I've just checked Earth Hive. It does actually say "Based on the Twentieth Century Fox motion pictures, the designs of H. R Giger, and the graphic novel by Mark Verheiden and Mark A. Nelson" in the small print inside the cover. Not sure about the later books.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on May 10, 2016, 03:52:13 PMYou're not crazy. This is just wrong.
The fact it is exactly what has happened would seem to indicate otherwise.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on May 10, 2016, 04:16:53 PM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on May 10, 2016, 04:16:53 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 10, 2016, 04:05:07 PMQuote from: Perfect-Organism on May 10, 2016, 03:52:13 PMSecondly, are you serious about the original Perry books? Did they really not give credit where it was due?
I've just checked Earth Hive. It does actually say "Based on the Twentieth Century Fox motion pictures, the designs of H. R Giger, and the graphic novel by Mark Verheiden and Mark A. Nelson" in the small print inside the cover. Not sure about the later books.Quote from: Perfect-Organism on May 10, 2016, 03:52:13 PMYou're not crazy. This is just wrong.
The fact it is exactly what has happened would seem to indicate otherwise.
Well, with regards to the original "Earth Hive" I would say it was done entirely appropriately. Small print is still credit, and that's the most important thing. I looked through the new printing and I could not see anything along those lines.
I don't think it is fair to say that just because something happened, that it is not wrong. I would suspect that rather than some nefarious conspiracy to discredit the original author, the new publishers simply overlooked the original source material or may have not been aware of it. Oversights do happen, and while it is wrong, it is not necessarily malicious. I will contact Titan, and point out the error.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 11, 2016, 07:31:37 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 11, 2016, 07:31:37 AM
Yeah, I would be surprised if the original authors aren't credited. I've never checked but if I remember I'll have a flick through my copies later.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Lonely Universe on Jul 25, 2016, 12:44:05 PM
Post by: Lonely Universe on Jul 25, 2016, 12:44:05 PM
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No good. Perhaps if the community were vocal we could spur them into action. It would be nice to have a truly complete set of reprints.
https://twitter.com/jordanblakecook/status/757312114990125056
No good. Perhaps if the community were vocal we could spur them into action. It would be nice to have a truly complete set of reprints.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Nostromo on Jul 25, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
Post by: Nostromo on Jul 25, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
Would love to see all the Bantam and Titan novel books made into comic graphic trade paperbacks.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jul 25, 2016, 01:07:05 PM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jul 25, 2016, 01:07:05 PM
Heck, I'd love to see all the FILMS made into graphic novels as well...
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: 426Buddy on Jul 25, 2016, 01:38:50 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Jul 25, 2016, 01:38:50 PM
Well there goes my chances of ever getting to read Predator SCS :-[
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jul 25, 2016, 01:54:22 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jul 25, 2016, 01:54:22 PM
Quote from: Nostromo on Jul 25, 2016, 12:53:32 PMWould love to see all the Bantam and Titan novel books made into comic graphic trade paperbacks.
???
The Bantam books were already novel adaptations of comic books. Do you mean the DH Press books? They were original stories.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Nostromo on Jul 25, 2016, 04:21:38 PM
Post by: Nostromo on Jul 25, 2016, 04:21:38 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jul 25, 2016, 01:54:22 PMQuote from: Nostromo on Jul 25, 2016, 12:53:32 PMWould love to see all the Bantam and Titan novel books made into comic graphic trade paperbacks.
???
The Bantam books were already novel adaptations of comic books. Do you mean the DH Press books? They were original stories.
Yea, I mean all the ones that were never made into comics, like Steel Egg, Cauldron and all the new ones, Sea of Sorrows, etc.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Jul 26, 2016, 12:53:10 AM
Post by: felix on Jul 26, 2016, 12:53:10 AM
I don't understand. There are supposed to be 5 more Omnibus coming. What other stories will they be collecting.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Lonely Universe on Jul 26, 2016, 02:16:02 AM
Post by: Lonely Universe on Jul 26, 2016, 02:16:02 AM
I dunno. I really urge everybody to reach out to Titan & ask just to show that there's interest. Tweet, email, doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Nostromo on Jul 26, 2016, 03:16:53 AM
Post by: Nostromo on Jul 26, 2016, 03:16:53 AM
Take screenshots and show them. Tell them to make comic trade paperback formats! Need visualizations over here tell them! :)
In all seriousness it would be nice to see some serious stories from these novels incorporated into comic trade paperbacks. I also wish Dark Horse had more competition, we are in need of some more serious stories in comics.
In all seriousness it would be nice to see some serious stories from these novels incorporated into comic trade paperbacks. I also wish Dark Horse had more competition, we are in need of some more serious stories in comics.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jul 26, 2016, 04:50:13 AM
Post by: SM on Jul 26, 2016, 04:50:13 AM
Competition from whom? They have the license.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Nostromo on Jul 26, 2016, 05:26:55 PM
Post by: Nostromo on Jul 26, 2016, 05:26:55 PM
SM, tell them to write smarter stories in comics. They'll listen to you.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jul 26, 2016, 10:04:43 PM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jul 26, 2016, 10:04:43 PM
SM, also tell them to do a series with Mark A. Nelson and one with Den Beauvais. I want the glory days of Aliens comics to come back...
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jul 26, 2016, 10:14:00 PM
Post by: SM on Jul 26, 2016, 10:14:00 PM
Book 1 and Book 2 are always available for a re-read.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Nostromo on Jul 26, 2016, 10:48:49 PM
Post by: Nostromo on Jul 26, 2016, 10:48:49 PM
SM, also tell them no more Aliens on Earth or jungles. Tell them to concentrate on spaceships, space stations and bases on Exoplanets, pretty much what they're doing now. Also, no more cults, weird mad scientists or stories with weak plots. :) Thanks peace dude and rock on.
Oh yeah, and no more Sachin covers lol.
Oh yeah, and no more Sachin covers lol.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Lonely Universe on Jul 27, 2016, 12:00:49 AM
Post by: Lonely Universe on Jul 27, 2016, 12:00:49 AM
We really just need to focus on one thing.
The DH books aren't getting included in the omnibus set & that sucks. You can still find the Bantam ones pretty easy, but I've only ever actually seen one of the DH ones in person. The novel omnibus will be incomplete without them & that's a real annoyance.
Everyone needs to do their part & send a request to Titan for them to be included. This will show interest & that's the first thing needed for them to consider it. Otherwise, DNA War & all those stories will just be lost to time.
Just tweet @TitanBooks about it! It only takes a second <3
The DH books aren't getting included in the omnibus set & that sucks. You can still find the Bantam ones pretty easy, but I've only ever actually seen one of the DH ones in person. The novel omnibus will be incomplete without them & that's a real annoyance.
Everyone needs to do their part & send a request to Titan for them to be included. This will show interest & that's the first thing needed for them to consider it. Otherwise, DNA War & all those stories will just be lost to time.
Just tweet @TitanBooks about it! It only takes a second <3
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jul 27, 2016, 12:04:57 AM
Post by: SM on Jul 27, 2016, 12:04:57 AM
The DH books are a different run that don't tie in to the Bantam run. Not having omnibuses of them won't make anything "incomplete". Wouldn't hurt though.
And Sachin covers make a nice alterative.
And Sachin covers make a nice alterative.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Lonely Universe on Jul 27, 2016, 12:24:09 AM
Post by: Lonely Universe on Jul 27, 2016, 12:24:09 AM
Without being unnecessarily technical it's still incomplete. You can't say you have every Terminator comic unless you have the complete runs from like 4 or 5 different companies.
Titan is so closely tied to Dark Horse it would be easy to republish the later novels. Likely easier than it was to gain the rights to Bantam's.
Titan is so closely tied to Dark Horse it would be easy to republish the later novels. Likely easier than it was to gain the rights to Bantam's.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Nostromo on Jul 27, 2016, 12:43:45 AM
Post by: Nostromo on Jul 27, 2016, 12:43:45 AM
Quote from: SM on Jul 27, 2016, 12:04:57 AM
Yeah I'll, uh, get right on that.
LOL ;D. For the Sanchin covers...the last one looked like spaghetti thrown on a wall. Call the guy man...tell him to stop drawing.
Maybe ask Dark Horse to call Titan for the story rights to Cauldron, etc?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 27, 2016, 07:46:20 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 27, 2016, 07:46:20 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jul 26, 2016, 10:04:43 PM
SM, also tell them to do a series with Mark A. Nelson and one with Den Beauvais. I want the glory days of Aliens comics to come back...
What I would give to see Beauvais do another Alien comic...
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Jul 27, 2016, 10:49:13 AM
Post by: Whiskeybrewer on Jul 27, 2016, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 27, 2016, 07:46:20 AMQuote from: Perfect-Organism on Jul 26, 2016, 10:04:43 PM
SM, also tell them to do a series with Mark A. Nelson and one with Den Beauvais. I want the glory days of Aliens comics to come back...
What I would give to see Beauvais do another Alien comic...
That would be perfect
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Sep 30, 2016, 05:09:14 AM
Post by: felix on Sep 30, 2016, 05:09:14 AM
Vol 4 Omnibus announced
http://titanbooks.com/the-complete-aliens-omnibus-volume-four-music-of-the-spears-beserker-8481/
http://titanbooks.com/the-complete-aliens-omnibus-volume-four-music-of-the-spears-beserker-8481/
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 30, 2016, 07:30:52 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 30, 2016, 07:30:52 AM
And there we go! The best Alien omnibus and now Berserker isn't a nightmare to get.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Sep 30, 2016, 08:03:08 AM
Post by: felix on Sep 30, 2016, 08:03:08 AM
Such a long time away though.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Sep 30, 2016, 01:32:17 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Sep 30, 2016, 01:32:17 PM
Again with the ACM screenshot covers :laugh:
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: 426Buddy on Sep 30, 2016, 03:58:19 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Sep 30, 2016, 03:58:19 PM
Terrible terrible covers! Why oh why cant they give me something that doesn't make me cringe when I see it.
Otherwise I lost my copy of Berserker and I never read the novel for Spears, its gonna be an easy buy.
Does anyone know if it possible to find the original bantam novels for sale still?
Otherwise I lost my copy of Berserker and I never read the novel for Spears, its gonna be an easy buy.
Does anyone know if it possible to find the original bantam novels for sale still?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 02, 2016, 08:47:03 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 02, 2016, 08:47:03 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Sep 30, 2016, 03:58:19 PMDoes anyone know if it possible to find the original bantam novels for sale still?
I recently got them all without too much trouble on eBay and Amazon (all second-hand, obvs). The only one I struggled to find for a reasonable price was Berserker. Guess they never printed many copies of that. Ended up having to pay a bit more for that one.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Oct 02, 2016, 09:49:01 AM
Post by: SM on Oct 02, 2016, 09:49:01 AM
Cool. Never did get a chance to read Berserker. Or Hunters Planet and War. Good to have all the AvP stuff in one volume too.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SiL on Oct 02, 2016, 11:35:26 AM
Post by: SiL on Oct 02, 2016, 11:35:26 AM
I was lucky enough to borrow Berserker from the library. Was one of my favourite novels a damn sight more interesting than the comic.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 02, 2016, 03:01:08 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 02, 2016, 03:01:08 PM
Yeah, Berserker's definitely my favourite of the Aliens novels I've read.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: 426Buddy on Oct 02, 2016, 05:49:16 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Oct 02, 2016, 05:49:16 PM
I just snagged these novels (used :-\) on amazon. Better than having omnibus' IMO.
Aliens earth hive
Nightmare asylum
Female war
Rogue
Labyrinth
Music of the spears
I have Harvest and AvP already. I hope my bro might still have my copy of Berserker. I used to own hunters planet but I tossed it after reading it. (Won't own that one again)
Aliens earth hive
Nightmare asylum
Female war
Rogue
Labyrinth
Music of the spears
I have Harvest and AvP already. I hope my bro might still have my copy of Berserker. I used to own hunters planet but I tossed it after reading it. (Won't own that one again)
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 03, 2016, 07:47:17 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 03, 2016, 07:47:17 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 02, 2016, 08:47:03 AMQuote from: 426Buddy on Sep 30, 2016, 03:58:19 PMDoes anyone know if it possible to find the original bantam novels for sale still?
I recently got them all without too much trouble on eBay and Amazon (all second-hand, obvs). The only one I struggled to find for a reasonable price was Berserker. Guess they never printed many copies of that. Ended up having to pay a bit more for that one.
I didn't get a copy of Berserker until about 4 years back. I think I paid around £20 for it. Worth it though. Easily one of the best Alien novels. It took some truely interesting concept buried under that OTT comic and turned it into a mature novel with so much going for it.
You can skip Hunter's Planet though.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Oct 03, 2016, 09:32:25 PM
Post by: SM on Oct 03, 2016, 09:32:25 PM
What was over the top about Berserker?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 04, 2016, 07:43:30 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 04, 2016, 07:43:30 AM
Maybe OTT is an incorrect way of putting it. Berserker was just another of those blast-em-away comics with the real interesting stuff buried below that action. Too much of that comic way of presenting Aliens. The novelization really brought that to the surface and expanded on it greatly. Absolutely wonderful adaptation, doing what a good adaptation should.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 04, 2016, 07:56:29 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 04, 2016, 07:56:29 AM
The novel certainly had a hell of a lot more heart and soul than the comic did.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Oct 04, 2016, 08:30:19 AM
Post by: SM on Oct 04, 2016, 08:30:19 AM
I'm not seeing what the problem with the comic was...
Always thought it was one of the better series.
Always thought it was one of the better series.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 04, 2016, 08:55:59 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 04, 2016, 08:55:59 AM
Not saying there was anything wrong with the comic, just thought the novel was a lot deeper and more developed.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: 426Buddy on Oct 04, 2016, 12:51:31 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Oct 04, 2016, 12:51:31 PM
I enjoy the Berserker comic a lot myself but I too also feel that the book is better.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 04, 2016, 02:03:58 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 04, 2016, 02:03:58 PM
It was pretty typical of the Aliens comics at the time, I think. I just think the novel elevated a lot of the substance beneath the comics surface and made it superior.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Russ840 on Oct 05, 2016, 04:54:55 PM
Post by: Russ840 on Oct 05, 2016, 04:54:55 PM
Does labyrinth go into more detail than the comic. I love the comic because it really delves into the creature it'self. Is this carried over to the book ?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Oct 05, 2016, 07:40:37 PM
Post by: SM on Oct 05, 2016, 07:40:37 PM
Not particularly. It stick pretty close to the comic, but shuffles the 'Backsplash' flashback and Church-in-the-hive flashback around a bit.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2016, 08:50:52 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2016, 08:50:52 AM
So looks like the Aliens Omnibus are going to continue on and republish the DH Press novels. The same announcement also says they're republishing the old Bantam Predator novels but doesn't mention a volume number so perhaps they aren't publishing the DH Press Predator novels which seems a little odd to me.
http://media.titanbooks.com/filebrowser/2016_rightsguide-frankfurt.pdf
Thanks to Felix for the link.
http://media.titanbooks.com/filebrowser/2016_rightsguide-frankfurt.pdf
Thanks to Felix for the link.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Oct 30, 2016, 08:54:06 AM
Post by: felix on Oct 30, 2016, 08:54:06 AM
No problem. I love collecting media tie in and novelizations.
Titan Books tends to delay a lot of their releases. So don't be surprised if the Release Dates are a month or two off.
Titan Books tends to delay a lot of their releases. So don't be surprised if the Release Dates are a month or two off.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Lonely Universe on Oct 30, 2016, 09:51:34 PM
Post by: Lonely Universe on Oct 30, 2016, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2016, 08:50:52 AMI am so happy
So looks like the Aliens Omnibus are going to continue on and republish the DH Press novels. The same announcement also says they're republishing the old Bantam Predator novels but doesn't mention a volume number so perhaps they aren't publishing the DH Press Predator novels which seems a little odd to me.
http://media.titanbooks.com/filebrowser/2016_rightsguide-frankfurt.pdf
Thanks to Felix for the link.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Oct 31, 2016, 07:27:37 AM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Oct 31, 2016, 07:27:37 AM
I wonder if this portends an onslaught of Aliens books in the future like what happened with Star Wars. I mean with that series, the authors got warmed up and just started churning out that stuff like it was going out of style...
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 31, 2016, 08:35:25 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 31, 2016, 08:35:25 AM
I think they'll maintain a steady pace. I don't think it has to appeal to go overboard like that.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 31, 2016, 09:18:23 AM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Oct 31, 2016, 09:18:23 AM
"Alien: Covenant - The Official Movie Sequel"?!
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Dec 25, 2016, 01:36:30 AM
Post by: felix on Dec 25, 2016, 01:36:30 AM
Anyone getting the Vol 3 Omnibus next week?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Dec 25, 2016, 08:39:52 PM
Post by: SM on Dec 25, 2016, 08:39:52 PM
Nah already got them. Waiting for Volume 4.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 26, 2016, 03:48:41 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 26, 2016, 03:48:41 AM
I've still got all my old first edition Bantam prints from back in the day, no real reason to buy the reprints.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 04:38:45 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 04:38:45 PM
Quote from: SM on Dec 25, 2016, 08:39:52 PM
Nah already got them. Waiting for Volume 4.
Need Berserker?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Dec 27, 2016, 07:24:09 PM
Post by: SM on Dec 27, 2016, 07:24:09 PM
And MOTS. I read MOTS years ago, but it was borrowed from a library.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 07:33:07 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2016, 07:33:07 PM
I didn't think Music was hard to come by?
Probably be the best volume out of the lot. I loved Music for how different it was and Berserker was such a great adaptation. Really enhanced the whole story.
Probably be the best volume out of the lot. I loved Music for how different it was and Berserker was such a great adaptation. Really enhanced the whole story.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Dec 27, 2016, 07:57:37 PM
Post by: SM on Dec 27, 2016, 07:57:37 PM
MOTS did a good job of portraying a story about the creation of a musical piece in a medium devoid of audio. It also added some depth to the main players. Unfortunately it didn't seem to have any relationship or links with the wider universe established in other novels.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 27, 2016, 07:59:21 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 27, 2016, 07:59:21 PM
It didn't help that the book gave the story a date that made no sense.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Dec 27, 2016, 08:02:27 PM
Post by: SM on Dec 27, 2016, 08:02:27 PM
Pretty sure it was in line with some of the other books (ie. a century too early).
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 27, 2016, 08:18:55 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 27, 2016, 08:18:55 PM
None of the other books ever put a specific date to anything. Just some vague amount of time after Aliens. But then Music goes and dates its story as happening years before Aliens, despite mentioning the events of the film and several of the other books as having already happened.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Dec 27, 2016, 08:35:47 PM
Post by: SM on Dec 27, 2016, 08:35:47 PM
Earth Hive gives a launch date for the Benedict and K-014 as April 5 2092, and many of the other books mention how many years since the Alien invasion (Genocide for instance gives a date of being 18 years after). So MOTS being in 2124 fits in that regard, but Navarro doesn't mention the Earth invasion instead talking about characters growing up on Earth when the invasion would be happening and something called the 'Homeworld Wars'.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 28, 2016, 03:50:36 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 28, 2016, 03:50:36 AM
I seem to recall MotS name-dropping the Grant Corporation and maybe another corporation that was introduced in one of the post-Female War stories.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: The Alien Predator on Dec 28, 2016, 03:53:57 AM
Post by: The Alien Predator on Dec 28, 2016, 03:53:57 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 28, 2016, 03:50:36 AM
I seem to recall MotS name-dropping the Grant Corporation and maybe another corporation that was introduced in one of the post-Female War stories.
I remember the Grant Corporation from when I was reading Aliens: Genocide. The character who owned it was quite interesting. I liked seeing his evolution throughout the story from some sleazy and greedy corporate CEO to a person that slowly began to care for the people he worked with. His relationship with Alex Kozlowski (I think that was the female Colonial Marine's name) was interesting to see how it grew.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 28, 2016, 03:56:02 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Dec 28, 2016, 03:56:02 AM
Yeah, Grant Corp originated in 'Aliens: Genocide', but the company gets a name-drop in a couple other stories (Music of the spears I'm pretty sure on, and maybe 'Aliens: No Exit'?)
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 04:01:04 AM
Post by: SM on Dec 28, 2016, 04:01:04 AM
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Dec 28, 2016, 03:53:57 AMQuote from: Xenomrph on Dec 28, 2016, 03:50:36 AM
I seem to recall MotS name-dropping the Grant Corporation and maybe another corporation that was introduced in one of the post-Female War stories.
I remember the Grant Corporation from when I was reading Aliens: Genocide. The character who owned it was quite interesting. I liked seeing his evolution throughout the story from some sleazy and greedy corporate CEO to a person that slowly began to care for the people he worked with. His relationship with Alex Kozlowski (I think that was the female Colonial Marine's name) was interesting to see how it grew.
Baffles me why they changed her name from Lee to Kozlowski from comic to novel. Ultimately the problem with Grant Corp was Daniel Grant claimed to be a changed man after the events of Genocide - yet Grant Corp continued on its merry way with Alien exploitation for years to come.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 28, 2016, 07:00:56 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 28, 2016, 07:00:56 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 28, 2016, 03:56:02 AM
Yeah, Grant Corp originated in 'Aliens: Genocide', but the company gets a name-drop in a couple other stories (Music of the spears I'm pretty sure on, and maybe 'Aliens: No Exit'?)
I remember that it being mentioned in Criminal Enterterprise too.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 28, 2016, 02:49:09 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 28, 2016, 02:49:09 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 28, 2016, 03:56:02 AMYeah, Grant Corp originated in 'Aliens: Genocide', but the company gets a name-drop in a couple other stories (Music of the spears I'm pretty sure on, and maybe 'Aliens: No Exit'?)
In the novel of Rogue John Cray, the guy the main characters deliver to the planet and whose DNA Kleist uses to create the Rogue, is said to be a Grant Corporation corporate spy. Not sure if that was in the comic or just added for the book.
Always made me laugh how he lives in the comic but dies in the novel.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Apr 04, 2017, 05:16:35 AM
Post by: felix on Apr 04, 2017, 05:16:35 AM
Omnibus Vol 5 Cover
(https://bnccatalist.ca/images/catImages/title/404778/9781783299096.jpg)
Upcoming Titan Book Tie ins for 2017.
https://bnccatalist.ca/viewcatalogue.aspx?id=18013
(https://bnccatalist.ca/images/catImages/title/404778/9781783299096.jpg)
Upcoming Titan Book Tie ins for 2017.
https://bnccatalist.ca/viewcatalogue.aspx?id=18013
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 05:46:55 AM
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 05:46:55 AM
They need to stop using that Aliens: Colonial Marines model.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 04, 2017, 06:27:43 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 04, 2017, 06:27:43 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 04, 2017, 05:46:55 AMI think it's a neat looking design, and it's not that different from the 'Aliens' design such that I think it ruins it. We've gotten WAY, WAY worse cover art (forthcoming Aliens: Bug Hunt, cough cough).
They need to stop using that Aliens: Colonial Marines model.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Apr 04, 2017, 06:49:52 AM
Post by: felix on Apr 04, 2017, 06:49:52 AM
I wish we got a sequel to Original Sin.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 07:06:50 AM
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 07:06:50 AM
The hips are awful on that design.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 07:48:34 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 07:48:34 AM
It's not the worse but I really wish they'd give us some original artwork instead of all these Colonial Marine screenshots or dodgy photoshops. :'(
Interesting that they're doing the DH Press novels too. Perhaps there is a hope we'll see a reprint of South China Sea.
Interesting that they're doing the DH Press novels too. Perhaps there is a hope we'll see a reprint of South China Sea.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 08:01:59 AM
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 08:01:59 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 07:48:34 AM
It's not the worse but I really wish they'd give us some original artwork instead of all these Colonial Marine screenshots or dodgy photoshops. :'(
Interesting that they're doing the DH Press novels too. Perhaps there is a hope we'll see a reprint of South China Sea.
I hope so. I really want to read that one.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 04, 2017, 09:18:45 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 04, 2017, 09:18:45 AM
Quote from: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 08:01:59 AMDitto - I've still got my copy, but if more people get a chance to read it, the better.Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 07:48:34 AM
It's not the worse but I really wish they'd give us some original artwork instead of all these Colonial Marine screenshots or dodgy photoshops. :'(
Interesting that they're doing the DH Press novels too. Perhaps there is a hope we'll see a reprint of South China Sea.
I hope so. I really want to read that one.
Although I wonder how willing Titan would be to reprinting the "Hish" DH Press novels. If the plan is to potentially address the topic in a future Predator anthology book like was hinted at in another thread, then it's kind of a non-issue though.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 09:24:49 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 09:24:49 AM
So far they've only got the original Bantam Predator novels due for an Omnibus and it's not labeled as a volume 1.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 09:41:54 AM
Post by: Russ840 on Apr 04, 2017, 09:41:54 AM
Has that been announced? Did I miss that ?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 09:46:01 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 04, 2017, 09:46:01 AM
I thought it had but I can't see a thread on it. I'll get one up shortly.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Oct 06, 2017, 05:39:43 AM
Post by: felix on Oct 06, 2017, 05:39:43 AM
Amazon has Aliens Omnibus: Volume Six on June 26 2018.
https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Aliens-Omnibus-Cauldron-Steel/dp/1783299126/ref=sr_1_1_twi_mas_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1507268221&sr=1-1&keywords=alien+omnibus
https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Aliens-Omnibus-Cauldron-Steel/dp/1783299126/ref=sr_1_1_twi_mas_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1507268221&sr=1-1&keywords=alien+omnibus
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Nov 06, 2017, 10:13:26 PM
Post by: felix on Nov 06, 2017, 10:13:26 PM
The Cover for Vol 6 is up.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91MsTw-CcXL.jpg
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91MsTw-CcXL.jpg
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: RidgeTop on Nov 07, 2017, 09:50:17 PM
Post by: RidgeTop on Nov 07, 2017, 09:50:17 PM
Upside down drool now...
*sigh* these covers.
*sigh* these covers.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Russ840 on Nov 08, 2017, 07:56:54 PM
Post by: Russ840 on Nov 08, 2017, 07:56:54 PM
JUst finished Berserker. Good stuff. Definitely Better than the comic. It really fleshed things out.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 08, 2017, 07:58:48 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 08, 2017, 07:58:48 PM
I loved Berserker. Definitely my favourite out of all the Alien novels I've read.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Nov 08, 2017, 08:00:05 PM
Post by: SM on Nov 08, 2017, 08:00:05 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Nov 07, 2017, 09:50:17 PM
Upside down drool now...
*sigh* these covers.
Eggs can drip up. Why not Aliens? ;D
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: RidgeTop on Nov 08, 2017, 08:56:07 PM
Post by: RidgeTop on Nov 08, 2017, 08:56:07 PM
Quote from: SM on Nov 08, 2017, 08:00:05 PMQuote from: RidgeTop on Nov 07, 2017, 09:50:17 PM
Upside down drool now...
*sigh* these covers.
Eggs can drip up. Why not Aliens? ;D
Touché
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 09, 2017, 08:22:36 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 09, 2017, 08:22:36 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Nov 07, 2017, 09:50:17 PM
Upside down drool now...
*sigh* these covers.
:'(
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/d7f9/f/2015/050/6/e/broken_record_pixle_gif_by_eclipse_the_cat_da-d8iqr0x.jpg)
Please, Titan...Tristan Jones...Raymond Swanland...
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 08, 2017, 07:58:48 PM
I loved Berserker. Definitely my favourite out of all the Alien novels I've read.
I love Berserker so much! I'm so glad it's now easily available for everyone. Say what we will of the covers, but it's great that they've been republishing these.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Russ840 on Nov 09, 2017, 02:34:59 PM
Post by: Russ840 on Nov 09, 2017, 02:34:59 PM
I was really good. I went and re read the comic straight after and they both really compliment each other and enhance each other no way that I read the book. The book really helped me to root for the characters more than the comic.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Romansky on Dec 13, 2017, 03:49:34 AM
Post by: Romansky on Dec 13, 2017, 03:49:34 AM
I just started reading the omnibus series...I must say the first couple of chapters are a tad confusing with the story jumping but as it closes in the suspense of wanting to know what's next is overwhelming. I'm a little upset that Easley was taken out so soon I was wanting his character to linger longer but something had to go wrong on that ship I guess. Anyways it's great story can't wait to catch up.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jan 18, 2018, 06:04:00 AM
Post by: SM on Jan 18, 2018, 06:04:00 AM
A few pages back I was baffled by people saying how much better the adaptation of Berserker - an already great comic - was.
I stand corrected. It stuck closely to the original storyline, which was appreciated, but the characterisation and backstories for the team really added a whole other dimension. SD really nailed it.
I stand corrected. It stuck closely to the original storyline, which was appreciated, but the characterisation and backstories for the team really added a whole other dimension. SD really nailed it.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Russ840 on Jan 18, 2018, 08:06:41 AM
Post by: Russ840 on Jan 18, 2018, 08:06:41 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 18, 2018, 06:04:00 AM
A few pages back I was baffled by people saying how much better the adaptation of Berserker - an already great comic - was.
I stand corrected. It stuck closely to the original storyline, which was appreciated, but the characterisation and backstories for the team really added a whole other dimension. SD really nailed it.
It is really great. I also just read it so it's fresh. It's really nice how close the book and comic are, but can come away with something different from both.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 18, 2018, 08:34:09 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 18, 2018, 08:34:09 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 18, 2018, 06:04:00 AM
A few pages back I was baffled by people saying how much better the adaptation of Berserker - an already great comic - was.
I stand corrected. It stuck closely to the original storyline, which was appreciated, but the characterisation and backstories for the team really added a whole other dimension. SD really nailed it.
She really elevated the core material. Absolutely cracking novel. I think it's probably my favourite of the lot.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jan 18, 2018, 10:29:16 AM
Post by: SM on Jan 18, 2018, 10:29:16 AM
Of the older novels, I think it's far and away the best.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SiL on Jan 18, 2018, 10:50:31 AM
Post by: SiL on Jan 18, 2018, 10:50:31 AM
Second Aliens novel I read and one I have very fond memories of. Looking forward to reading it again.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 18, 2018, 11:00:41 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 18, 2018, 11:00:41 AM
Quote from: SM on Jan 18, 2018, 10:29:16 AM
Of the older novels, I think it's far and away the best.
Do you refer any of the newer ones over it?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Jan 18, 2018, 12:05:25 PM
Post by: felix on Jan 18, 2018, 12:05:25 PM
I hope we get more Predator Omnibus after they finish reprinting the Alien ones.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jan 18, 2018, 12:06:30 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jan 18, 2018, 12:06:30 PM
Yeah, I've said a few times that Berserker is my favourite of all the Alien(s) novels I've read.
The only other one that came close for me was Rogue, although I confess I've yet to get any of the DH Press books.
The only other one that came close for me was Rogue, although I confess I've yet to get any of the DH Press books.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 18, 2018, 12:16:18 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 18, 2018, 12:16:18 PM
From what I remember the DH Press novels were all mostly ok. No Exit could have been brilliant but that last 3rd let it down.
I hope they do too. It's too hard to get hold of Turnabout or South China Sea now and they're must-reads as far as I'm concerned. 5 out of 5s.
Quote from: felix on Jan 18, 2018, 12:05:25 PM
I hope we get more Predator Omnibus after they finish reprinting the Alien ones.
I hope they do too. It's too hard to get hold of Turnabout or South China Sea now and they're must-reads as far as I'm concerned. 5 out of 5s.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Russ840 on Jan 18, 2018, 12:32:34 PM
Post by: Russ840 on Jan 18, 2018, 12:32:34 PM
I really want a Pred omni collecting those.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Jan 18, 2018, 12:47:50 PM
Post by: felix on Jan 18, 2018, 12:47:50 PM
I consider South China Sea the best Predator story written so far.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: NazCross on Jan 18, 2018, 04:33:14 PM
Post by: NazCross on Jan 18, 2018, 04:33:14 PM
Quote from: Russ840 on Jan 18, 2018, 12:32:34 PM
I really want a Pred omni collecting those.
Yea, that would be just what we need. South China Sea is pricey, seen some used-ok condition ones around $50-60+
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Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jan 18, 2018, 07:56:26 PM
Post by: SM on Jan 18, 2018, 07:56:26 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 18, 2018, 11:00:41 AMQuote from: SM on Jan 18, 2018, 10:29:16 AM
Of the older novels, I think it's far and away the best.
Do you refer any of the newer ones over it?
Not sure. I really liked RoP despite the myriad continuity glitches.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Wweyland on Jan 19, 2018, 04:01:32 PM
Post by: Wweyland on Jan 19, 2018, 04:01:32 PM
So are these reprints just reprints or do they have any small changes that try to fix any continuity or other things?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jan 19, 2018, 09:17:08 PM
Post by: SM on Jan 19, 2018, 09:17:08 PM
Just reprints. Trying to fix continuity would've required extensive rewrites.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Wweyland on Jan 20, 2018, 10:24:53 AM
Post by: Wweyland on Jan 20, 2018, 10:24:53 AM
I would image fixing things like typos would not be exhaustive.
An example of a thing that could be easy to fix:
In the "Field report" comic (attached to Fire and Stone), Burkes and Gormans names are mixed up and could be changed in a reprint.
An example of a thing that could be easy to fix:
In the "Field report" comic (attached to Fire and Stone), Burkes and Gormans names are mixed up and could be changed in a reprint.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jan 20, 2018, 10:46:14 AM
Post by: SM on Jan 20, 2018, 10:46:14 AM
Fixing a typo is very different from fixing a continuity error.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jan 21, 2018, 02:00:33 AM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jan 21, 2018, 02:00:33 AM
I am tempted to pisk up the omnibi. This represents a period in my life where I was off the Aliens bandwagon. I left around the time of the original Aliens: Colonial Marines comics. I only came back into the fold really around the time of Prometheus, so all the stuff in between, I find that I don't really connect with. Mind you, I've seen all the movies in between as they came out, but nothing really connected with me during those years in terms of EU. I just felt that all the random stories never really moved the overall story forward. Also, reading all of the omnibi comics didn't do anything for me. They were mostly rubbish, random tales IMO, that never explored what could have been really amazing.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jan 21, 2018, 03:27:24 AM
Post by: SM on Jan 21, 2018, 03:27:24 AM
Everything but the most recent (Original Sin/ DNA War) is adapting the old comics, so you may be disappointed.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jan 21, 2018, 09:07:51 PM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jan 21, 2018, 09:07:51 PM
I just looked through my Aliens Omnibus graphic novel collection. Berserker does not seem to be in there. Was it not compiled in the series? Was it ever compiled into a Trade Paperback? I don't recall reading this..
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jan 21, 2018, 10:59:08 PM
Post by: SM on Jan 21, 2018, 10:59:08 PM
Name got changed to 'Frenzy'.
No idea why.
No idea why.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jan 22, 2018, 01:22:25 AM
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jan 22, 2018, 01:22:25 AM
Oh.
Because its Dark Horse. Why leave a good thing be when you tweak it a little right?
Honestly, I used to love Dark Horse. I was there from the beginning reading their books in the late 80s. But I would definitely be curious to see a Marvel or Titan run of Aliens graphic novels. Its time.
Because its Dark Horse. Why leave a good thing be when you tweak it a little right?
Honestly, I used to love Dark Horse. I was there from the beginning reading their books in the late 80s. But I would definitely be curious to see a Marvel or Titan run of Aliens graphic novels. Its time.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Mar 26, 2018, 05:08:45 AM
Post by: felix on Mar 26, 2018, 05:08:45 AM
Aliens Omnibus: Vol 7 to be released Dec 24th.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1783299134/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1522040745&sr=1-7&keywords=titan+books
Criminal Enterprise and No Exit.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1783299134/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1522040745&sr=1-7&keywords=titan+books
Criminal Enterprise and No Exit.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Mar 26, 2018, 05:24:16 AM
Post by: SM on Mar 26, 2018, 05:24:16 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Jan 22, 2018, 01:22:25 AM
Oh.
Because its Dark Horse. Why leave a good thing be when you tweak it a little right?
Honestly, I used to love Dark Horse. I was there from the beginning reading their books in the late 80s. But I would definitely be curious to see a Marvel or Titan run of Aliens graphic novels. Its time.
The stuff they've produced since the start of Fire & Stone was miles better than Deadliest of the Species or Xenogenesis. And nary a mad scientist in sight.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Apr 16, 2018, 10:07:53 PM
Post by: felix on Apr 16, 2018, 10:07:53 PM
Cover for the Vol 7 Omnibus
(https://bnccatalist.ca/images/catImages/title/449350/9781783299133_tnmd.jpg)
(https://bnccatalist.ca/images/catImages/title/449350/9781783299133_tnmd.jpg)
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 16, 2018, 11:09:42 PM
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 16, 2018, 11:09:42 PM
That should be the end of the reprints, right?
I really wish they'd reprint the DHPress Predator stuff, more people need to read South China Sea.
I really wish they'd reprint the DHPress Predator stuff, more people need to read South China Sea.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Apr 16, 2018, 11:33:44 PM
Post by: felix on Apr 16, 2018, 11:33:44 PM
More Predator stuff is always welcome. Sent an email to Titan Books suggesting that.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Huggs on Apr 17, 2018, 04:16:15 AM
Post by: Huggs on Apr 17, 2018, 04:16:15 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 16, 2018, 11:09:42 PM
That should be the end of the reprints, right?
I really wish they'd reprint the DHPress Predator stuff, more people need to read South China Sea.
I honestly never heard about South China Sea. Granted, I'm more of a fan of the Alien Novels and the first AVP, but I'd like to read all the Predator Novels too. Is it pretty good?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 17, 2018, 04:32:59 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 17, 2018, 04:32:59 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 17, 2018, 04:16:15 AMHands down the best Predator novel, period.Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 16, 2018, 11:09:42 PM
That should be the end of the reprints, right?
I really wish they'd reprint the DHPress Predator stuff, more people need to read South China Sea.
I honestly never heard about South China Sea. Granted, I'm more of a fan of the Alien Novels and the first AVP, but I'd like to read all the Predator Novels too. Is it pretty good?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Huggs on Apr 17, 2018, 04:35:47 AM
Post by: Huggs on Apr 17, 2018, 04:35:47 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 17, 2018, 04:32:59 AMQuote from: Huggs on Apr 17, 2018, 04:16:15 AMHands down the best Predator novel, period.Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 16, 2018, 11:09:42 PM
That should be the end of the reprints, right?
I really wish they'd reprint the DHPress Predator stuff, more people need to read South China Sea.
I honestly never heard about South China Sea. Granted, I'm more of a fan of the Alien Novels and the first AVP, but I'd like to read all the Predator Novels too. Is it pretty good?
Wow. I hope it gets reprinted then.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 17, 2018, 07:42:37 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 17, 2018, 07:42:37 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Apr 16, 2018, 11:09:42 PM
That should be the end of the reprints, right?
Unless they're going to omnibus-ize their own initial trilogy and Rage Wars, yeah.
QuoteI really wish they'd reprint the DHPress Predator stuff, more people need to read South China Sea.
Me too. Turnabout and South China Sea are too hard to get hold of. And must reads IMHO.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 17, 2018, 08:31:45 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Apr 17, 2018, 08:31:45 AM
Speaking of Turnabout, the short story "Rematch" in the recently-published 'If It Bleeds' anthology loses a lot of its impact if the reader hasn't first read Turnabout. :P
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Jul 01, 2018, 08:32:41 AM
Post by: felix on Jul 01, 2018, 08:32:41 AM
Anyone bought the Vol 6 omnibus?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jul 01, 2018, 08:40:28 AM
Post by: SM on Jul 01, 2018, 08:40:28 AM
Nah, I've got the original books. Been meaning to get volume 5 though.
Been meaning to send SiL his copy of DNA War back too...
Been meaning to send SiL his copy of DNA War back too...
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Jul 01, 2018, 08:50:21 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Jul 01, 2018, 08:50:21 AM
Quote from: felix on Jul 01, 2018, 08:32:41 AMI've still got the original books, too. Sure they're well-worn, but they're not falling apart or damaged enough to justify replacing them.
Anyone bought the Vol 6 omnibus?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Wweyland on Jul 01, 2018, 03:05:17 PM
Post by: Wweyland on Jul 01, 2018, 03:05:17 PM
I am actually missing the DH Press novels (except Original Sin) so these omnibuses are great for catching up.
I'm hearing the quality of these novels is not that great compared to the old and new stuff?
I'm hearing the quality of these novels is not that great compared to the old and new stuff?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Jul 01, 2018, 04:52:21 PM
Post by: Xenomrph on Jul 01, 2018, 04:52:21 PM
I wouldn't say they're bad, they're just a little inconsistent. I liked No Exit a lot but the ending isn't great.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Local Trouble on Jul 01, 2018, 07:48:23 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Jul 01, 2018, 07:48:23 PM
Do you have any pics of your bookshelf? I imagine it's quite extensive. :)
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: 426Buddy on Jul 01, 2018, 08:07:10 PM
Post by: 426Buddy on Jul 01, 2018, 08:07:10 PM
Yrah ive never read any of the dh press novels unfortunatly. Gonna have to start tracking down the originals online eventually.
I wish i could get South china sea at a reasonable price.
I wish i could get South china sea at a reasonable price.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jul 01, 2018, 09:02:18 PM
Post by: SM on Jul 01, 2018, 09:02:18 PM
Quote from: Wweyland on Jul 01, 2018, 03:05:17 PM
I am actually missing the DH Press novels (except Original Sin) so these omnibuses are great for catching up.
I'm hearing the quality of these novels is not that great compared to the old and new stuff?
There's good bits here and there, but yeah, they're generally average. I think the original plan was to have stories where the Aliens weren't the focus, and it didn't really come off.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SiL on Jul 01, 2018, 10:55:30 PM
Post by: SiL on Jul 01, 2018, 10:55:30 PM
Quote from: SM on Jul 01, 2018, 08:40:28 AMIt took me how many years to send through those Alien Appendix discs ... ? I'm not expecting it back any time soon ;D
Been meaning to send SiL his copy of DNA War back too...
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Jul 02, 2018, 12:38:27 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Jul 02, 2018, 12:38:27 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 01, 2018, 07:48:23 PMBookshelves, plural. I've got multiple "libraries" around the house, sorted by media type. It's not all Aliens/Predator stuff, but it's still a lot of stuff. :P
Do you have any pics of your bookshelf? I imagine it's quite extensive. :)
There's a shelf for graphic novels, art books, and RPG books, there's a shelf for paperbacks (that's where most of the Aliens/Predator novels are), there's two shelves for hardbacks and paperbacks that spilled over from the first shelf, there's a shelf for DVDs/Blurays, there's a shelf for video games, and there's two shelves for "Weird War II" stuff.
I can take pictures of any/all of it if you want.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Jul 02, 2018, 06:13:03 AM
Post by: felix on Jul 02, 2018, 06:13:03 AM
I am a big collector of movie tie ins and novelizations myself. Have several boxes of them in my house.
A good novelization really adds to the enjoyment of the movie. Orson Scott Card's The Abyss novelization for example.
A good novelization really adds to the enjoyment of the movie. Orson Scott Card's The Abyss novelization for example.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Huggs on Jul 02, 2018, 06:19:03 AM
Post by: Huggs on Jul 02, 2018, 06:19:03 AM
Quote from: felix on Jul 02, 2018, 06:13:03 AM
A good novelization really adds to the enjoyment of the movie.
Indeed. Foster's Alien novelization is full of tense scenes that surpass and improve what's seen in the film. Two modern novelization that jump to mind are Skull Island and Alien Covenant. Enjoyed both of those much more than the movies. And I loved the Skull Island movie.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jul 02, 2018, 06:20:11 AM
Post by: SM on Jul 02, 2018, 06:20:11 AM
The Abyss was a cracker.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Jul 02, 2018, 06:23:26 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Jul 02, 2018, 06:23:26 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 02, 2018, 06:19:03 AMAs a big fan of movie novelizations, I'll have to check out the one for Skull Island. I thought the movie was great, and if the novel is better then that sounds like something worth my time.Quote from: felix on Jul 02, 2018, 06:13:03 AM
A good novelization really adds to the enjoyment of the movie.
Indeed. Foster's Alien novelization is full of tense scenes that surpass and improve what's seen in the film. Two modern novelization that jump to mind are Skull Island and Alien Covenant. Enjoyed both of those much more than the movies. And I loved the Skull Island movie.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Huggs on Jul 02, 2018, 06:28:34 AM
Post by: Huggs on Jul 02, 2018, 06:28:34 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jul 02, 2018, 06:23:26 AMQuote from: Huggs on Jul 02, 2018, 06:19:03 AMAs a big fan of movie novelizations, I'll have to check out the one for Skull Island. I thought the movie was great, and if the novel is better then that sounds like something worth my time.Quote from: felix on Jul 02, 2018, 06:13:03 AM
A good novelization really adds to the enjoyment of the movie.
Indeed. Foster's Alien novelization is full of tense scenes that surpass and improve what's seen in the film. Two modern novelization that jump to mind are Skull Island and Alien Covenant. Enjoyed both of those much more than the movies. And I loved the Skull Island movie.
Tim Lebbon really nailed it.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Xenomrph on Jul 02, 2018, 06:29:43 AM
Post by: Xenomrph on Jul 02, 2018, 06:29:43 AM
I just bought a copy. Thanks for the recommendation!
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Huggs on Jul 02, 2018, 06:38:13 AM
Post by: Huggs on Jul 02, 2018, 06:38:13 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Jul 02, 2018, 06:29:43 AM
I just bought a copy. Thanks for the recommendation!
No problem. It's nice to know I can accidentally help sell something, even when I'm not at work. Say, you're going to need good lighting to read that properly. When's the last time you changed your light bulbs? :D
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: felix on Jul 02, 2018, 06:45:59 AM
Post by: felix on Jul 02, 2018, 06:45:59 AM
I really wish i had a copy of Alan Dean Foster's The Thing novelization. Can't find it anywhere.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 02, 2018, 07:56:24 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 02, 2018, 07:56:24 AM
Quote from: SM on Jul 01, 2018, 09:02:18 PMQuote from: Wweyland on Jul 01, 2018, 03:05:17 PM
I am actually missing the DH Press novels (except Original Sin) so these omnibuses are great for catching up.
I'm hearing the quality of these novels is not that great compared to the old and new stuff?
There's good bits here and there, but yeah, they're generally average. I think the original plan was to have stories where the Aliens weren't the focus, and it didn't really come off.
The DH Press line was largely...okay. It's been a while since I re-read them all but I remember Criminal Enterprise being the best but still mostly fine. Steel Egg was just a mega-disappointment. I was really looking forward to that one. No Exit would have been fantastic had it not been for that mega poor ending. I do really want to re-read this soon actually.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jul 02, 2018, 08:51:15 AM
Post by: SM on Jul 02, 2018, 08:51:15 AM
Steel Egg was more good than bad. Reynolds however was the most god awfully written character in living memory though...
I found it on easier to appreciate the positives upon re-reading years later. Except Cauldron. That was still mostly rubbish. DNA War was a much better read from Carey. When I first read them they were universally disappointing. These days not so much.
I found it on easier to appreciate the positives upon re-reading years later. Except Cauldron. That was still mostly rubbish. DNA War was a much better read from Carey. When I first read them they were universally disappointing. These days not so much.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 02, 2018, 08:53:42 AM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 02, 2018, 08:53:42 AM
I remember really liking the trap in Cauldron.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Local Trouble on Jul 02, 2018, 03:47:20 PM
Post by: Local Trouble on Jul 02, 2018, 03:47:20 PM
Quote from: SM on Jul 02, 2018, 06:20:11 AM
The Abyss was a cracker.
Quite enjoyable?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Samhain13 on Jul 02, 2018, 06:45:50 PM
Post by: Samhain13 on Jul 02, 2018, 06:45:50 PM
Best thing about Steel Egg was that despite being outnumbered aliens still took down a large crew of humans, novels like No Exit were much better written than it with much more interesting characters and plot but when it come to the aliens they screwed it up by having humans fight them with hands. And of course No Exit felt like it needed a few more chapters to end it properly.
DNA War had pretty much every aspect of it above average, one of my favorites alien novels overall.
Criminal Enterprise was too short and focused too little on the aliens, but in regards to the rest it was good.
Cauldron started quite interesting but developed quite average and had some annoying parts.
DNA War had pretty much every aspect of it above average, one of my favorites alien novels overall.
Criminal Enterprise was too short and focused too little on the aliens, but in regards to the rest it was good.
Cauldron started quite interesting but developed quite average and had some annoying parts.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jul 09, 2018, 12:17:34 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jul 09, 2018, 12:17:34 PM
I've yet to get around to buying the DH Press books. Think I've been put off by how insanely expensive some of them are.
And like a peen-arse I've gotta have the original single editions, collected omnibus versions won't do it for me :laugh:
And like a peen-arse I've gotta have the original single editions, collected omnibus versions won't do it for me :laugh:
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Huggs on Jul 10, 2018, 01:29:27 AM
Post by: Huggs on Jul 10, 2018, 01:29:27 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jul 09, 2018, 12:17:34 PM
I've yet to get around to buying the DH Press books. Think I've been put off by how insanely expensive some of them are.
And like a peen-arse I've gotta have the original single editions, collected omnibus versions won't do it for me :laugh:
I prefer to have both. 8) But I get ya. There's something about that old parchment and artwork of those old novels that just ups the experience. It's the original "thang", I guess.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: SM on Jul 10, 2018, 01:41:07 AM
Post by: SM on Jul 10, 2018, 01:41:07 AM
Yeah remember back in the 70s when they used papyrus?
;D
;D
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Huggs on Jul 10, 2018, 02:01:43 AM
Post by: Huggs on Jul 10, 2018, 02:01:43 AM
Quote from: SM on Jul 10, 2018, 01:41:07 AM
Yeah remember back in the 70s when they papyrus?
;D
Oh, Sm. You Rascal! :D
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Wweyland on Jul 10, 2018, 05:30:08 PM
Post by: Wweyland on Jul 10, 2018, 05:30:08 PM
Hoping they can release the DH Press Predator novels as an omnibus also, but maybe there is a licensing issue.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: BountyHunter on Oct 07, 2018, 08:04:49 PM
Post by: BountyHunter on Oct 07, 2018, 08:04:49 PM
Has there been any news on any more Predator Collections?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 08, 2018, 04:57:27 PM
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 08, 2018, 04:57:27 PM
Nothing yet.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Huggs on Oct 08, 2018, 10:44:36 PM
Post by: Huggs on Oct 08, 2018, 10:44:36 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 08, 2018, 04:57:27 PM
Nothing yet.
Rats. I need to experience this south china sea story.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: Letneper on Dec 12, 2018, 10:15:37 PM
Post by: Letneper on Dec 12, 2018, 10:15:37 PM
Anyone ever get any official answers on where the Aliens Omnibus covers come from? No credit for cover art in the books... They definitely do look like screen captures from a game, but what game?
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 12, 2018, 10:25:54 PM
Post by: HuDaFuK on Dec 12, 2018, 10:25:54 PM
ACM.
Except Volume One, which was a promo still from Alien.
Except Volume One, which was a promo still from Alien.
Title: Re: Titan To Republish Original Aliens Bantam Novels
Post by: VincentVegaFFF on Aug 08, 2021, 11:24:44 PM
Post by: VincentVegaFFF on Aug 08, 2021, 11:24:44 PM
Are these out of print now or just currently out of stock? Managed to get all of them but volume 7 of Aliens and it seems to be pretty uncommon now. I'm hoping Titan can bring it back in print at some point.