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We have just uploaded the 119th episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast (right-click and save as to download)! Corporal Hicks, RidgeTop, Voodoo Magic and Xenomorphine are back to discuss and speculate on the big news regarding Dan Trachtenberg and Patrick Aison’s Predator 5 (aka Skulls)!

We dig into the Comanche and Native American cultures and how the Predator could fit in, Voodoo Magic drops his theory on how it could in fact be a prequel to Predator 2 featuring Greyback, Xenomorphine educates us on Skinwalker Ranch, how this would be a good opportunity to introduce a female Predator onto the big screen and plenty more!

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Quote from: GreybackElder on Dec 10, 2020, 02:31:47 AM
Great podcast as always gentlemen!! I'm pissed at Xenomorphine because I love the twist for his Skulls' plot and I know I'm never going to see it. I hope sooo much for this movie to be good. To echo what was said the director needs to scale this movie wayyy back. Give me some good "no name" actors that can act their balls( or ovaries) off. Give me a cool design for a new predator with some kick as weaponry. Make this thing serious! No slap stick one liners please!!! Make it tense, I wanna be on the edge of my seat the whole time. Finally, please don't go too hard in the paint with the social political undertones.  I'm fine with a female protagonist. I'm fine with going against norms but please don't force it down my throat. At the end of the day it's a predator film. Not Mulan.

Quote from: Enjoy on Dec 09, 2020, 06:24:26 PM
I would be happy to see a whole trilogy of movies based on the whole tribe from p2 and all they have done ove time.. Do you have details on the script ? Other then what the public knows ?

Quote from: Predalien39 on Dec 09, 2020, 10:13:25 PM
I agree with that casting choice, voodoomagic, 100%
She was also in Wind River.

Quote from: GreybackElder on Dec 10, 2020, 02:31:47 AM
Great podcast as always gentlemen!! I'm pissed at Xenomorphine because I love the twist for his Skulls' plot and I know I'm never going to see it. I hope sooo much for this movie to be good. To echo what was said the director needs to scale this movie wayyy back. Give me some good "no name" actors that can act their balls( or ovaries) off. Give me a cool design for a new predator with some kick as weaponry. Make this thing serious! No slap stick one liners please!!! Make it tense, I wanna be on the edge of my seat the whole time. Finally, please don't go too hard in the paint with the social political undertones.  I'm fine with a female protagonist. I'm fine with going against norms but please don't force it down my throat. At the end of the day it's a predator film. Not Mulan.

Quote from: Lost_Hunter on Dec 11, 2020, 10:07:28 PM
Great podcast guys, looking forward to the next one. Xenomorphine is right, there is a total treasure trove of Native history and legend they could pull from. I hope the Comanche people are brought on as consultants for authenticity. Still cautiously optimistic.

I have a little nugget for y'all, I go to Monsterpalooza every year. It's a practical effects Monster Con, highly recommended. It tends to lean towards makeup but the Alien, Predator, Terminator guys are usually there. I've picked up some scraps of info in my travels. Legacy Effects was bidding for Duh Predator but they didn't get it due to cost. I've also seen casts of Wolf, Fugitive and the pink Emissary up close. I can tell you that the Emissary looked much better than what we would have gotten on screen. His mouth could not close but it could close alot better than the stills we've seen. Placing the blame on the animatronics(servos, gears) that make the head articulate. ADI goes for the all in 1 Pred Head instead of having different heads for different expressions. That's why the head is big and why the mandibles are a mess.

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Almost forgot, if you haven't seen ZVP check it out on YouTube

Quote from: Lost_Hunter on Dec 11, 2020, 10:07:28 PM
I have a little nugget for y%u2019all, I go to Monsterpalooza every year. It%u2019s a practical effects Monster Con, highly recommended. It tends to lean towards makeup but the Alien, Predator, Terminator guys are usually there. I%u2019ve picked up some scraps of info in my travels. Legacy Effects was bidding for Duh Predator but they didn%u2019t get it due to cost. I%u2019ve also seen casts of Wolf, Fugitive and the pink Emissary up close. I can tell you that the Emissary looked much better than what we would have gotten on screen. His mouth could not close but it could close alot better than the stills we%u2019ve seen. Placing the blame on the animatronics(servos, gears) that make the head articulate. ADI goes for the all in 1 Pred Head instead of having different heads for different expressions. That%u2019s why the head is big and why the mandibles are a mess.

Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Dec 12, 2020, 10:15:22 PM
Voodoo, I think putting you on the podcast crew was a very good idea!

Quote from: ace3g on Dec 14, 2020, 06:50:02 PM
I was going to post this a while ago but some names I think could be cast in this movie.

Julia Jones
Q'orianka Kilcher
Irene Bedard
Grace Dove

Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 15, 2020, 05:31:47 PM
Great episode guys, always love to hear ya'll while I'm working. I'm just happy to see that a Predator movie is comming out sonner than one thinks.

Oh as for Voodoo trying to shoehorn Greyback in this upcoming film, I would actually love more than anything is to see Greyback during the Korean War. Why put all our eggs in the basket when instead we can get another Predator film in another setting? The Korean War is history that is rarely touched upon here in the States and even in media so it would be cool to get something like Saving Private Ryan but with Predator in the Korean War.

Not to mention if we follow the usual formula to these films, the Predator is killed at the end so it wouldn't make sense for Greyback to bite the dust back then and have him in P2. I want that twist of a Predator surviving the film too but better in a rarely used setting I say.

Quote from: 426Buddy on Dec 17, 2020, 01:30:58 AM
Little do we know it's a secret AvP film and the skulls refer to the aliens specifically.

Quote from: MudButt on Dec 18, 2020, 12:27:11 AM
Voodoo, I love your for mentioning Kelsey Asbille Chow. She is a great actress. I love her on Yellowstone and she has a great but small role in Wind River. I would love to see her involved in this!

Some other actors that have a Native Background that would be awesome are Gil Birmingham (Yellowstone, Wind River, Hell or High Water), Graham Greene (Wind River, Dances With Wolves), and Martin Sensmeier (The Magnificent 7 Remake).

Great shoutout to Zach McClarnon. He is awesome in Doctor Sleep as Crow Daddy.

We could get some awesome fight scenes between Comanche warriors and our favorite space hunter  8)

Quote from: Wysps on Dec 18, 2020, 08:55:12 PM
Really enjoyed the podcast!  Listening to it in one sitting really does require a time commitment  :laugh:  I'm putting my thoughts under the Spoilers since I hate just leaving a wall of text.

Spoiler

First off, I'm so excited that we don't have to wait another 5, 10+ years for another Predator film.  I thought because of how poorly received the last one was, we'd definitely be looking at a 10+ year hiatus. I feel so lucky to be a Predator fan right now.  Both A and P fans have so much to look forward to going into the 2020's  :)

When you guys were talking about the potential mystical angle (portraying the Predator as if it were like a ghost or paranormal figure, rather than a Scifi alien monster), I think this could very well be an angle that they go with.  Especially with the way in which they were wanting to keep the involvement of the Predator under wraps.  It may be their intent to go back to the roots of the first movie and focus mostly on the characters outruning/out smarting the Predators, with the suspense of the Predator in the shadows/backround.  Kind of like the "monster" in It Follows.  We get to see it and recognize it's power, but we're always kept at two arm's length without really ever understanding it, if that makes sense.

I don't think it would be a stretch at all to somehow tie this film into the Predator 2 ending with the flintlock pistol.  It seems like it would be more of a hop than a leap, per se.  The setting works, loosely, as does the time period (though to be honest, it's hard for me to imagine a Predator movie taking place in the Plains or desert.  Won't that have an effect on the mystery?  Where will everyone hide?)  But going back to the setting/time period, I suppose it depends on what they mean by pre-colonization: pre-contact or pre-colony building (and then, which colonies). 

I'd love to see a female protagonist go up against a female Predator.  I think this would be the perfect opportunity to finally use one and it feel just natural to the script.  My guess is that they'll go with the portrayal in Hunting Grounds (not my first choice, but eh).  I've never really liked the reasoning that because the males are muscular with linear torsos, they are the equivalent to human males.  And therefore, the females are supposed to have breasts.  I don't buy it. 

But as far as casting choices for the female Comanche protagonist, it's too bad there aren't more known actresses to pull from.  I do see some potential problems that could impact how the film is received.  There's already a lot of issues with people acknowledging their Native American ancestry, who gets to claim their ancestry and what checkboxes they have to mark in order to do so.  Just some quick googling of the actress that you mentioned, Voodoo, already shows some controversy on the subject.  I'd hate for this film to be rejected or denounced  because of a cultural oversight or something.  That was my first thought when you guys mentioned the possibility of somehow tying in the Predators with some of the existing folklore of the tribes.   

Spoiler

So also, like what was brought up in the podcast about the contemporary gender politics, it did give me pause when I first read the movie description. Idk, I suppose whenever there's a female main it feels personal.  Like I get extra invested in it.  I'd like the female main to be taken seriously and be a good character.  The last thing I want is to be pandered to or patronized.  I truly hope they reach out to experts and give an accurate representation of life within the tribe, and not just superimpose the gender experience of Europeans at the time or in modern times.  Though I will say, from what I've read so far, there are similarities.  The captivity story of Bianca Babb is an interesting read.

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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 19, 2020, 01:15:00 PM

Quote from: Wysps on Dec 18, 2020, 08:55:12 PM
Really enjoyed the podcast!  Listening to it in one sitting really does require a time commitment  :laugh:  I'm putting my thoughts under the Spoilers since I hate just leaving a wall of text.

Spoiler

First off, I'm so excited that we don't have to wait another 5, 10+ years for another Predator film.  I thought because of how poorly received the last one was, we'd definitely be looking at a 10+ year hiatus. I feel so lucky to be a Predator fan right now.  Both A and P fans have so much to look forward to going into the 2020's  :)

When you guys were talking about the potential mystical angle (portraying the Predator as if it were like a ghost or paranormal figure, rather than a Scifi alien monster), I think this could very well be an angle that they go with.  Especially with the way in which they were wanting to keep the involvement of the Predator under wraps.  It may be their intent to go back to the roots of the first movie and focus mostly on the characters outruning/out smarting the Predators, with the suspense of the Predator in the shadows/backround.  Kind of like the "monster" in It Follows.  We get to see it and recognize it's power, but we're always kept at two arm's length without really ever understanding it, if that makes sense.

I don't think it would be a stretch at all to somehow tie this film into the Predator 2 ending with the flintlock pistol.  It seems like it would be more of a hop than a leap, per se.  The setting works, loosely, as does the time period (though to be honest, it's hard for me to imagine a Predator movie taking place in the Plains or desert.  Won't that have an effect on the mystery?  Where will everyone hide?)  But going back to the setting/time period, I suppose it depends on what they mean by pre-colonization: pre-contact or pre-colony building (and then, which colonies). 

I'd love to see a female protagonist go up against a female Predator.  I think this would be the perfect opportunity to finally use one and it feel just natural to the script.  My guess is that they'll go with the portrayal in Hunting Grounds (not my first choice, but eh).  I've never really liked the reasoning that because the males are muscular with linear torsos, they are the equivalent to human males.  And therefore, the females are supposed to have breasts.  I don't buy it. 

But as far as casting choices for the female Comanche protagonist, it's too bad there aren't more known actresses to pull from.  I do see some potential problems that could impact how the film is received.  There's already a lot of issues with people acknowledging their Native American ancestry, who gets to claim their ancestry and what checkboxes they have to mark in order to do so.  Just some quick googling of the actress that you mentioned, Voodoo, already shows some controversy on the subject.  I'd hate for this film to be rejected or denounced  because of a cultural oversight or something.  That was my first thought when you guys mentioned the possibility of somehow tying in the Predators with some of the existing folklore of the tribes.   

Spoiler

So also, like what was brought up in the podcast about the contemporary gender politics, it did give me pause when I first read the movie description. Idk, I suppose whenever there's a female main it feels personal.  Like I get extra invested in it.  I'd like the female main to be taken seriously and be a good character.  The last thing I want is to be pandered to or patronized.  I truly hope they reach out to experts and give an accurate representation of life within the tribe, and not just superimpose the gender experience of Europeans at the time or in modern times.  Though I will say, from what I've read so far, there are similarities.  The captivity story of Bianca Babb is an interesting read.

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Wow great post Wysps! I say remove those spoilers and let your wall of text shine!

In regards to controversy in relation to native american ancestry, who are decedents of what tribes, and accurately depicting proper behavior in said tribes, it almost feels like a field of landmines to navigate. Maybe they'll hire a consultant from the Comanche tribe to keep it all straight. But these days, even if they do that, it feels like someone getting pissed off with something is inevitable. :-\

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 19, 2020, 01:56:58 PM
I think you're right, these days any reason to go off on something seems like a good reason !
Regarding the movie, it may be a silly question but do you think characters could actually speak only the native language of that era, or will it be a standard english speaking movie ? I believe it will probably be the latter, unless they pull an apocalypto on this one.

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 19, 2020, 09:59:23 PM

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 19, 2020, 01:56:58 PM
I think you're right, these days any reason to go off on something seems like a good reason !
Regarding the movie, it may be a silly question but do you think characters could actually speak only the native language of that era, or will it be a standard english speaking movie ? I believe it will probably be the latter, unless they pull an apocalypto on this one.

Well the smart money is on English, but I'd personallly love if they went indigenous language with English subtitles. But for it to work imo, the script would have to be light on dialogue and heavy on scenery and cinematography, with plenty of communication with the eyes, which I would just adore. :)

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 19, 2020, 10:54:17 PM

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 19, 2020, 09:59:23 PM

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Dec 19, 2020, 01:56:58 PM
I think you're right, these days any reason to go off on something seems like a good reason !
Regarding the movie, it may be a silly question but do you think characters could actually speak only the native language of that era, or will it be a standard english speaking movie ? I believe it will probably be the latter, unless they pull an apocalypto on this one.

Well the smart money is on English, but I'd personallly love if they went indigenous language with English subtitles. But for it to work imo, the script would have to be light on dialogue and heavy on scenery and cinematography, with plenty of communication with the eyes, which I would just adore. :)

I'm with you on that one !

Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Dec 21, 2020, 03:46:23 PM
I'm poised to re-watch P2. We'll see if any of Voodoo's extra enthusiasm infected me  ;D

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 22, 2020, 02:01:42 PM

Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Dec 21, 2020, 03:46:23 PM
I'm poised to re-watch P2. We'll see if any of Voodoo's extra enthusiasm infected me  ;D

Infection was always the plan!

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;D

Quote from: Kradan on Jan 05, 2021, 02:26:46 PM
Dare I say it, but out of two - Predators is the one I'm more excited to re-watch

Quote from: XenoHunter99 on Jan 05, 2021, 02:22:45 PM
I'll stick with infection. And I rewatched both P2 and Predators. My opinion of P2 rose greatly and I enjoyed Predators (again) a lot. I posted in another thread, but for convenience, I'll paste here.

(Re: P2) The few parts I remember vividly are still there, but I was surprised how well-assembled and coherent it all is, as well as how much I'd forgotten about how it all fits together. The story-telling is very meticulous. Everything is smooth and by the numbers, so to speak. In all, a very good experience. I'd also forgotten how soon Keyes shows up, how integral he and his helpers are to the plot. P2 may be the best of the Predator films. As an added bonus (for me), I rewatched Predators and... I still really like it! :D Is it as good as P2? I think they're close. YMMV.

Quote from: Kradan on Jan 05, 2021, 02:26:46 PM
Dare I say it, but out of two - Predators is the one I'm more excited to re-watch

Quote from: Kradan on Jan 05, 2021, 02:34:47 PM
Eh, I don't remember you ever giving me one - even when I praised P2

Quote from: Kailem on Jan 05, 2021, 05:41:59 PM
Voodoo's got loads of them lying around.

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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 06, 2021, 01:53:33 PM

Quote from: Kradan on Jan 05, 2021, 02:34:47 PM
Eh, I don't remember you ever giving me one - even when I praised P2

I must have missed it!

Quote from: Kradan on Jan 06, 2021, 06:51:46 AM
Fine ! I'll get my own flintlock !

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