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Title: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Darkness on Apr 26, 2007, 05:44:26 PM

I remember way back in January, I suspected an underwater scene would appear in AvP2. Alien Experience is now reporting that it will be a big action sequence:

“The scene is just mentioned in a passing glance as one of the films shot in the Vancouver area that features underwater filming, but I’ve asked around and it seems it all boils down to one scene that features some mayham, carnage, and of course, people dying.” says Hicks.

I loved the scene in Alien Resurrection though and I wouldn’t mind seeing the aliens back underwater again. Let’s hope it’s a great sequence. Thanks to Darkoo for the news.

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Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: slipknotpredator on Apr 27, 2007, 05:56:33 AM
i´m not sure about a predator under water, but maybe it´s about aliens and humans like in A4   :o  
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Just some Alien fan on Apr 27, 2007, 06:23:49 AM
I makes sense that a pred could go underwater by using the breathing mask he used in predator 2 when harriagain and good ol pred were on the roof
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Darkness on Apr 27, 2007, 06:28:25 AM
Hmm, I wouldn\\\'t want to see a Predator underwater either if it\\\'s supposed to be fighting with an alien. Wouldn\\\'t look right.
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Just some Alien fan on Apr 27, 2007, 06:34:29 AM
Relating by to a post i read i belive that the pred alien grows and causes the ship to crash in the water and the preds have to get out of the water with the pred alien following them   ;D  
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Hicks on Apr 27, 2007, 06:41:33 AM
I can't imagine the Predator in the water either, unless this scene takes place in the sewers. I wish I had more details to go on, but of course, nobody is really talking about it. One thing I do know for sure, people will die.   ;)  
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Darkness on Apr 27, 2007, 06:50:54 AM
This also raises a question as to whether aliens in general can swim naturally or if the reason they swam in Res was because of Ripley's DNA.
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: PHANTOM on Apr 27, 2007, 07:03:43 AM
A Predator can't fight underwater because it messes up his cloaking device.
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Katarn on Apr 27, 2007, 07:16:19 AM
does he need a cloacking device to fight?     ;)  
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Hicks on Apr 27, 2007, 07:58:25 AM
"This also raises a question as to whether aliens in general can swim naturally or if the reason they swam in Res was because of Ripley's DNA."  I never thought it that way, I just assumed they could swim naturally. Interesting.
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 27, 2007, 08:05:38 AM
Aliens are smart, they could figure it out.
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Predboy on Apr 27, 2007, 08:31:11 AM
I think that aliens are able to swim naturally. So I'm thinking there the ones that are going to kill people. A pred underwater wouldn't be a good idea. Aliens underwater would be a good idea, like in A4. That underwater scene was hot.
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: ILovJesus on Apr 27, 2007, 09:06:41 AM
HAHA  great news, btw if da pred is in da water, HE WOULD LOSE! da aliens hav d advantage. Dis scene in my opinion will be in cause of da sewers. Aliens vs predator in da sewers, dat would be cool. ALIEN WINS!
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: ShadowPred on Apr 27, 2007, 10:01:25 AM
Oh, hell yes, That scene in A4 was the money shot for me, hopefully it's more intense
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Pvt. Hicks on Apr 27, 2007, 11:20:46 AM
This will be a great sequence. So will the rooftop.
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Xenomorphine on Apr 27, 2007, 12:37:05 PM
Remember 'Aliens'? One swam along perfectly happy to get to Newt.  Remember 'Predator'? One swam along perfectly happy to get to Dutch.  Both already took place. :)
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Apr 27, 2007, 01:39:13 PM
Ash in ALIEN said that the aliens can adapt to its environment, so maybe they can learn how to swim
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: xeno_alpha_07 on Apr 27, 2007, 03:36:53 PM
  ???   jesus christ not another under water scene! thats all we need! Alien Rez repo or what!
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Ermac on Apr 27, 2007, 04:08:26 PM
Not only that, but CGI Aliens alert!!!
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: pmaz11 on Apr 27, 2007, 04:38:18 PM
well I dont think that theres gonna be a alien and predator fight underwater neccesarily.....i'd imagine that the aliens swim or somethin underwater and the predator might do what he did in predator 1 (after dutch gets to shore and the predator jumps in the water and comes up). So the predator might do that, but i dont think aliens and predators will actually be swimming underwater and fighting at the same time.
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2007, 10:18:30 PM
Re: Hicks Well if you remember, ADI designed the Aliens specifically so they could swim. Which is why they have the different tail design.
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: ButtZilla on Apr 28, 2007, 12:23:27 AM
The more I hear it the more it sounds like a good action movie    ;D    Let's all hope yo!
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: ILovJesus on Apr 28, 2007, 05:22:40 AM
man i hope in d end da pred kills da queen, n has its skull, like da 1 in da comic book. Dat would be so COOL!!! but i still like aliens beter, even if da pred wins.... PREDATOR CARRYIN OUT AN ALIEN QUEEN'S HEAD IN D END(I WISH). DAT WOULD BE AWESUM!!!!
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Banman on Apr 28, 2007, 06:44:22 AM
I remember Ash saying that the adaptation to any environment was on a cellular level, not a natural (for fish, certain mamals and reptilians) or acquired, learned skill (for humans)...  For them to naturally swin, they would have to have gills, membranes, certains characteristics which would enable them to swim...
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: avpguy on Apr 28, 2007, 09:00:06 AM
i hope the pred can swim because i think the mask can also be a portable oxygen tank for the pred so he can swim underwater longer and the alien is a thing that adapts alot but i do think that the aliens will be like A4 but not as bad lookin. But the question is 4 me, Can the facehugger swim?Chestburster?
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Apr 28, 2007, 11:37:10 AM
Remember, ALIENS can also last in space for a period of time.
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Steve on Apr 29, 2007, 06:47:37 AM
Im all for swimming aliens but i was happy with the alien swimming motion in resurection.  I have no idea why they went with the up and down motion instead of a side to side which makes more sence and more realistic.  I remeber hearing that they got it from this lizard but i dont know of any lizard that swims in a up and down motion when they have a long flat tail as they did in resurection.
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Lycanus on Apr 29, 2007, 12:21:10 PM
2 things: first the preds are considered the greatest and most veristile hunters in the universe, so they would look threatining in a clown suit on a unicycle. second the xenomorphs are not a reptilian or mammilian species as was noted in several comics and books so they wouldn't swim like any thing weve ever seen. i think tat i t is going to be awsome no matter how or what is shot in the movie. the only thing is i would love to hear the yautja speaking to one another in the movie with subtitiles and all. anyway later
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Xenomorphine on Apr 29, 2007, 02:52:05 PM
Banman, human beings can swim, but we don't have gills... In any case, you're assuming these creatures have any need to breathe air. :)
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Banman on Apr 30, 2007, 03:44:47 AM
All I was saying was that swimming is a learned skill for us, humans... Unlike fish, some mammals and reptiles who have a morphology adquated to those environments...  A xenomorph would not swim because of Ripley's DNA, it would have to have a built-in morphology thta would enable it t swim like it did on Alien Resurrection...  Also, all I was saying too was that Ash said that the xenomorphs adapted to any hostile environment because they had the 'strangest habit' of replacing dead cells with polarised silicon', not because they automatically knew how to swim and fly... These 'skills' are not cellular related, UNLESS they have a reptilian or fish morphology, hence the gills, membranes, etc...  We swim because we learn how to... we learn to cordinate arms and legs to swim... It is not an inate skill... That is why Aliens could never swim because of the DNA mix...  And you are also assuming that they don't... We just don't know... But we know the swimming ability for humans is not inate, deep in our DNA... It is a learned skill... So AR made a huge mistake, though the underwater sequences were kinda cool...
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Punk19 on Apr 30, 2007, 06:58:59 AM
Underwater scene? Those are the best scene's ever. I wonder if the Predator is going to actually swim underwater this time.
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Xenomorphine on Apr 30, 2007, 04:09:49 PM
Actually, no - human babies will automatically swim if you put them in water, for the most part. It's an instinctive thing. :)  Swimming is actually one of the most easiest things for animals (at least, those who are physically capable of doing so), because we technically 'grew up' in the liquid environment of a womb or egg.  Just look at baby crocodiles, ducks or sea turtles (all air-breathing creatures and lacking gills). They don't have to be taught, they just race to the nearest water and do it! :) Why wouldn't an alien be the same?  There is zero reason why aliens would not simply be quite at home in the water, in the same way that the above animals are, which also do not need to be 'taught'. Again, remember the precedent of the one which swam to get to Newt, then dragged her under the water to travel away.  The only reason why some human beings have to be taught, is because they were often denied the skill of swimming while young and so forgot how to, because it has been so long.  In fact, the whole purpose of why they produce so much mucous might be because their natural state is an amphibious one and it assists them in gliding through a fluid environment.
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Banman on Apr 30, 2007, 10:46:18 PM
Xenomorphine, babies don´t 'swim'... swimming is a coordinaton between arms and legs to make yuo progress on or under water... That is why babies have to have their mothers holding them... They can stay under water because of the 'womb' but not for long... water is not amniotic fluid...  So, the don't 'swim'... just are able to hold their breath for a while... Swimming is much more than that...   And animals like ducks and crocodiles ar not a good example because the are NATURALLY bred for water... That is why the membranes on ducks' paws and the 'aerodynamics' and morphology of the crocodiles...  Aliens were not originally conceived to be able to swim, and you know that by studying their morphology carefully... check the paws, the claws, the general morphology of the body...  The Aliens swam with their legs, and not with their paws, if you recall...  And in Aliens we only see the Alien come above, we don't see iot swimming in any way... Just for scare effect...   About your last remark, ca you consubstantiate that...? It sounds pretty farfetched to me... We ar amphibious...? We can't breathe under water, we can't even swim under water without flippers and respiratory apparatus, so where did you read this...?
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Banman on Apr 30, 2007, 10:48:36 PM
Even our eardrums can't hold the pressure for long...
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Banman on Apr 30, 2007, 10:57:59 PM
Oh, I get it...you were talking about the Xenomorphs on the last paragraph...Oh, ok...  The last remark is a pretty huge assumption, not fact, by the way...
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: tone on May 01, 2007, 06:15:46 AM
I think I remember reading a comic that showed an alien surviving in deep space, so maybe they don't need to breathe at all.
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: Banman on May 01, 2007, 08:34:01 AM
So... I have an idea for Alien 5... between Aliens and Alien3, a deep space ship 'sees' the Xeno Queen from 'Aliens' floating in space and sends a 'hook' or something to catch her and bring her inside... Eheh... she starts laying eggs and that's all she wrote...the space ship returns home (Earth) and the mayhem begins...    :D    Now seriously, comics and movies don't mix... the canon for Alien and Predator is movies, not the comicbook, though Paul Anderson adapted a few aspects of the comics to the silver screen... But the breathing stuff in space is still non-canon, otherwise...The Queen might still be alive...!!! Oh no!!! We can do an Alien5 after all !!!     :D  
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: getalife on May 13, 2007, 08:17:27 PM
WOW! How many of you still live in your mothers basement?
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: smart1 on Jun 03, 2007, 11:48:53 AM
  ;D  I just did a report on alien life forms and if they could breath in space   ;D  and got an A   :o  anyway i think alien life forms could be able to breath oxegen    ;)  but it could be possible they can't   :-\  
Title: Re: More Info on Underwater Scene
Post by: smart1 on Jun 03, 2007, 11:51:06 AM
how old are you guys?   ???    im only in grade 6   :'(