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Back in February The Predator underwent some extensive reshoots that reportedly significantly changed a lot of the third act of the film.  Alien vs. Predator Galaxy can exclusively confirm that the reports of the major changes to the third act are true. And it sounds like a lot of what fans were criticising have been removed! Beware spoilers!

According to our sources the latest edits of the film following the reshoots have seen the so called “friendly” Predators that we’ve previously seen photos of completely cut from the film, as is the entire APC sequence and the various hybrid creatures. Only the Predator Dog mentioned in the recent set visits remains.

All death sequences involving the more prominent characters have also been completely changed now and the final battle with the Upgrade Predator takes place at night in the woods. After attacking the Project: Stargazer base, Upgrade gives the survivors a chance to escape before he begins to hunt them to find the best fighter amongst them.

The latest cut of the film tested also featured additional scenes that connected The Predator to the previous films, including Alien vs. Predator. Lex’s spear is now displayed alongside City Hunter’s spear from Predator 2. Casey, Olivia Munn’s character, is also shown some grainy pictures of the Predators from the first two films.

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Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 06, 2018, 12:09:32 PM
Thanks for the info, Hicks!

Have to say I'm disappointed the hybrids have been cut out, I was looking forward to them. On the other hand, at least I'll get my AVP reference!

Quote from: HumanPredator on Jul 06, 2018, 12:17:49 PM
One item though, how did Munn get pictures of the first predator?

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 06, 2018, 12:03:56 PM
According to our sources the latest edits of the film following the reshoots have seen the so called "friendly" Predators that we've previously seen photos of completely cut from the film, as is the entire APC sequence and the various hybrid creatures.

Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 06, 2018, 12:32:49 PM
Then I can not understand why have they released 2 trailers which contained the APC chase and one of the Defectors on it?

Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jul 06, 2018, 12:26:24 PM
Could someone tell me please: Are the other Preds completely out, there is only Upgrade and Fugitive now?

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 06, 2018, 12:35:13 PM

Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 06, 2018, 12:32:49 PM
Then I can not understand why have they released 2 trailers which contained the APC chase and one of the Defectors on it?

It isn't uncommon that trailers continue scenes are cut from finished films. The latest film we covered - Alien: Covenant - also had that. The more obvious recent example is Rogue One.

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Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jul 06, 2018, 12:26:24 PM
Could someone tell me please: Are the other Preds completely out, there is only Upgrade and Fugitive now?

Correct. At least in the most recent edits.

Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jul 06, 2018, 01:23:16 PM
You would think with all the negative reception The Predator trailers have been getting, they would want to include some of the new material, to make it stand out and maybe surprise audiences.

If these cut's are true, they are now left with basically what the trailers have already shown and what people don't seem to like...........

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 06, 2018, 01:30:55 PM

Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jul 06, 2018, 01:23:16 PM
You would think with all the negative reception The Predator trailers have been getting, they would want to include some of the new material, to make it stand out and maybe surprise audiences.

If these cut's are true, they are now left with basically what the trailers have already shown and what people don't seem to like...........

I don't think that what seems to have been cut (hybrids, friendly preds) would have been massively popular to the audience though.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 06, 2018, 12:35:13 PM

Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jul 06, 2018, 12:26:24 PM
Could someone tell me please: Are the other Preds completely out, there is only Upgrade and Fugitive now?

Correct. At least in the most recent edits.

Quote from: Darkness on Jul 06, 2018, 02:15:47 PM
So the humans won't be teaming up with any Predator?

QuoteWhat other hybrid creatures were there?

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 06, 2018, 02:21:11 PM

Quote from: Darkness on Jul 06, 2018, 02:15:47 PM
So the humans won't be teaming up with any Predator?

Nope. No team-ups.

Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 06, 2018, 02:46:14 PM
It's worth remembering that just because something is cut in one screening doesn't mean it will stay cut.

Quote from: brokentusk420 on Jul 06, 2018, 02:52:11 PM
Good. If they get rid of the retarded kid,  then this movie may have a chance. This is the 1st news about this movie I've heard since its announcement. What all these people complaining about the "new" and "bold" stuff beong taken out don't understand, is that it was trash only suited for Saturday morning cartoons. If you like that nonsense go watch transformers or something.

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 06, 2018, 03:04:06 PM

Quote from: brokentusk420 on Jul 06, 2018, 02:52:11 PM
Good. If they get rid of the retarded kid,  then this movie may have a chance. This is the 1st news about this movie I've heard since its announcement. What all these people complaining about the "new" and "bold" stuff beong taken out don't understand, is that it was trash only suited for Saturday morning cartoons. If you like that nonsense go watch transformers or something.

If we could get rid of your often retarded comments that would be even better

Quote from: germanator2 on Jul 06, 2018, 02:57:04 PM
I don't mind the Predators and humans teaming up. Obviously it depends on the circumstances and how it's executed, but as merciless as the Predators are, they're still an honorable race of aliens as demonstrated in Predator 2. I can believe they'd form an alliance with humans to help ensure their own survival, especially against something like an Upgrade. It's what makes the Predator stand out  against other alien/monster villains. They're not mindless killers and if anything are arogant and egoistical because they believe they're Superior and can survive anything and will use anything to ensure that survival, including something like forming an alliance with humans temporarily. It just really depends on the circumstances and how it plays out

Quote from: brokentusk420 on Jul 06, 2018, 02:52:11 PM
Good. If they get rid of the retarded kid, then this movie may have a chance. This is the 1st news about this movie I've heard since its announcement. What all these people complaining about the "new" and "bold" stuff beong taken out don't understand, is that it was trash only suited for Saturday morning cartoons. If you like that nonsense go watch transformers or something.

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 06, 2018, 04:23:04 PM
It's amazing how much people came around to finally like the new ideas this movie offers... I remember last year when the leaked script surfaced here, it was a massacre ! People hated it a lot more, and with a passion ! How time flies  :laugh:

Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 06, 2018, 04:41:27 PM

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 06, 2018, 04:23:04 PM
It's amazing how much people came around to finally like the new ideas this movie offers... I remember last year when the leaked script surfaced here, it was a massacre ! People hated it a lot more, and with a passion ! How time flies  :laugh:

That's why I hate when they listen to fans- people and opinions change. Sure I can understand that you want to appease the general fan base, which some modifications and rewrites can take place, but they shouldn't let it stop them from being more creative and making the Predator sequel they want to see. Sometimes all it takes is a little convincing and proper execution to convince people that their edgy ideas were worth the risk.

There were definitely appealing things to some of the concepts that are now being removed entirely. Maybe just a little reimagining on how they are presented and play out would have sufficed.

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 06, 2018, 04:46:23 PM

Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 06, 2018, 04:41:27 PM

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 06, 2018, 04:23:04 PM
It's amazing how much people came around to finally like the new ideas this movie offers... I remember last year when the leaked script surfaced here, it was a massacre ! People hated it a lot more, and with a passion ! How time flies  :laugh:

That's why I hate when they listen to fans- people and opinions change. Sure I can understand that you want to appease the general fan base, which some modifications and rewrites can take place, but they shouldn't let it stop them from being more creative and making the Predator sequel they want to see. Sometimes all it takes is a little convincing and proper execution to convince people that their edgy ideas were worth the risk.

There were definitely appealing things to some of the concepts that are now being removed entirely. Maybe just a little reimagining on how they are presented and play out would have sufficed.

I'm with you on that overall, but i admit i never succeeded to come around the preds in pants idea, even though it could've been a tiny detail in the final movie  ;D

Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 06, 2018, 05:03:17 PM
The kid ain't going anywhere so some of you may want to warm up to that... or you can just go into the movie with your hate goggles and pick it apart even further come September.

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 06, 2018, 04:23:04 PM
It's amazing how much people came around to finally like the new ideas this movie offers... I remember last year when the leaked script surfaced here, it was a massacre ! People hated it a lot more, and with a passion ! How time flies  :laugh:

Quote from: Original Predator on Jul 06, 2018, 05:13:24 PM

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 06, 2018, 04:23:04 PM
It's amazing how much people came around to finally like the new ideas this movie offers... I remember last year when the leaked script surfaced here, it was a massacre ! People hated it a lot more, and with a passion ! How time flies  :laugh:

Seems like that ended up helping change the script tho- eliminating the things that were hated, to give us a more plausible Pred movie that can be universally liked by more of the fanbase vs. the less than 27 year olds.

Proof is in the pudding, Black and Fox didn't spent extra time and money on a complete rewrite/reshoot of the 3rd act for no reason.

Quote from: Lionhart on Jul 06, 2018, 05:07:17 PM

Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 06, 2018, 05:03:17 PM
The kid ain't going anywhere so some of you may want to warm up to that... or you can just go into the movie with your hate goggles and pick it apart even further come September.

What are you even talking about? I am looking forward to watch this movie and more now than ever :-)

Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 06, 2018, 05:34:42 PM

Quote from: Lionhart on Jul 06, 2018, 05:07:17 PM

Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 06, 2018, 05:03:17 PM
The kid ain't going anywhere so some of you may want to warm up to that... or you can just go into the movie with your hate goggles and pick it apart even further come September.

What are you even talking about? I am looking forward to watch this movie and more now than ever :-)

Hey, you weren't the only one commenting on the kid. Lol

It's compromise, I suppose, as there are still plenty of new things being introduced as well as some things being reimagined (like the pred hounds). Perhaps some of these changes will bring it down to Earth more and still offer room for future installments to expand upon.

Quote from: brokentusk420 on Jul 06, 2018, 05:40:18 PM
My comment on the kid being retarded isn't an attack on his intelligence. It's an attack on the idea of having a kid of any mental capacity in the movie as being stupid or retarded. He could be Einstein for all i care and it would still be retarded. There is nothing wrong with the word retarded, you people need to loosen up.

Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 06, 2018, 05:55:19 PM
*roar* childrenz make angry! They totes ruin all manly moviez!

There shood be no woman in manz movie either!! Predator iz for mans man only!!

Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 06, 2018, 05:55:19 PM
*roar* childrenz make angry! They totes ruin all manly moviez!

There shood be no woman in manz movie either!! Predator iz for mans man only!!

Quote from: Dusk on Jul 06, 2018, 06:45:00 PM
I don't mind the idea of a kid in a Predator Movie. It can work. Newt in Aliens is a good example. I just really dislike the idea of a kid with Super Autism, learning an alien language, how to use alien tech and is instrumental in defeating the Predator.

Quote from: genocyber on Jul 06, 2018, 07:20:41 PM
This sounds like an improvement. Predators should not be mingling and hanging out with people. Also, hopefully they scaled back the idea of Predators wanting to hybridize themselves with people. Doesn't really make a whole lot of sense if they are already physically superior in every way.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 06, 2018, 03:21:11 PM

Quote from: brokentusk420 on Jul 06, 2018, 02:52:11 PM
Good. If they get rid of the retarded kid, then this movie may have a chance. This is the 1st news about this movie I've heard since its announcement. What all these people complaining about the "new" and "bold" stuff beong taken out don't understand, is that it was trash only suited for Saturday morning cartoons. If you like that nonsense go watch transformers or something.

Please consider this your only warning - we don't tolerate comments like that. Please don't do it again.

Quote from: Master on Jul 06, 2018, 07:56:03 PM
Not very gentle, but he is right Boss.  Autism is a serious condition, not superpower and kid deciphering alien language is stupid as hell.

Quote from: MudButt on Jul 06, 2018, 08:01:34 PM
My biggest complaint was just how bats**t it got in that 3rd act. People hanging on the outsides of flying ships, characters being killed off without any sort of reaction from other characters, and some of the dialogue got really bad towards the end. I don't like the description of Upgrade letting the main characters escape only to come after them once they do, that doesn't make any sense. Crazy that they'd shoot an entire APC action sequence and then cut it from the film but that's movie making. Let's not forget that first teaser from Rogue One is completely made up of shots that never made it in the movie  :D

I'm just glad the character deaths are changed. Now I won't know what to expect.

Quote from: frenchfries on Jul 06, 2018, 08:26:10 PM
I'm actually really happy with these changes. Sounded like they had way too much going on in the previous cuts. I just want a solid Shane black predator film, I don't need a bunch of new stuff for the sake of having new stuff. And I am surprised that people are disappointed with a third act that consists of a hunt..in the forest...IN A PREDATOR MOVIE. That's like complaining that a saw movie ends with booby traps.

Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jul 06, 2018, 08:15:38 PM
I think they should have reworked the team up angle, making it better, instead of just cutting it completely.

They could have had the 2 Predator's come to rescue the captured Predator or just have 3 captured Predator's and when the Super shows up, they are out matched and have to team up with the soldiers to survive and take it down.

That would have been less silly than 2 of them working for the government. Predator 2 shows they can have respect for humans, so it's not totally out of character. AvP did the team up thing badly but it could be done well, if handled right.

Cutting them out also cuts a big action scene (the APC chase) and cutting action scenes out of an action movie doesn't sound so great. It looked like it would be a cool scene from the trailer.

Quote from: frenchfries on Jul 06, 2018, 08:26:10 PM
I'm actually really happy with these changes. Sounded like they had way too much going on in the previous cuts. I just want a solid Shane black predator film, I don't need a bunch of new stuff for the sake of having new stuff. And I am surprised that people are disappointed with a third act that consists of a hunt..in the forest...IN A PREDATOR MOVIE. That's like complaining that a saw movie ends with booby traps.

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 06, 2018, 08:52:56 PM
Friendly reminder that the creatures having been cut out does NOT mean the movie isn't fresh anymore. Whenever Black talks about the freshness this movie brings to the franchise, not once is he talking about "different creatures" or "new monsters" or whatever. Sure, the friendly Preds having been cut out is one less new thing, but what Black means is freshness from a story perspective, a character writing perspective, a scope perspective. He's always talking about the Predators' agenda - that's been mentioned in the latest trailer too - THAT's the main source of freshness this film has to offer. That's what matters and it is still there. It still is a big budget Predator film, which by itself means this will be very different from the previous ones. And forget about the script for once, that was an early draft and the movie was surely already gonna differ from it even before the reshoots. I agree that the friendly Preds could've ruined the film depending on how they were portrayed - and tbh the idea of having 4 Predators in a movie called "THE Predator" kinda bothered me a little -, maybe it was a good thing they were cut out. Maybe the hybrid creatures could've stayed, if there's good reason for them to be there, I don't know, I haven't seen the film yet, maybe they will make it to the final cut of the movie. Point is I don't believe for a second that the movie has lost its freshness because of these changes.

And oh my freaking god it's infuriating to read those deranged comments about the kid.

Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jul 06, 2018, 08:59:09 PM
I'm happy the cammo preds are gone. Leave that crap with predators shooting guns in the comics and arcade game. Happy the hybrids are gone too. People keep saying the franchise needs to make bold moves but in my opinion if something isn't broke it doesn't need to be fixed. Keeping predator the way the original and 2nd were would be great for me. And the only way a kid should be given any dialogue in a predator film is if he's saying want some candy. Shane black had to be high as a giraffes was when he wrote this script.

Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jul 06, 2018, 08:52:43 PM

Quote from: frenchfries on Jul 06, 2018, 08:26:10 PM
I'm actually really happy with these changes. Sounded like they had way too much going on in the previous cuts. I just want a solid Shane black predator film, I don't need a bunch of new stuff for the sake of having new stuff. And I am surprised that people are disappointed with a third act that consists of a hunt..in the forest...IN A PREDATOR MOVIE. That's like complaining that a saw movie ends with booby traps.

But that's what every predator film boils down too, God forbid they actually try to give us something fresh and new. "Predators don't just sit around making hats out of rib cages, they conquered space." was a great line because it implies that the predators actually have a master plan for their race but now it seems we're just going to get a few lines of dialogue hinting at a much more interesting story while we have to watch a predator "make hats out of rib cages" again, just like all the other films. This will be just like Alien Covenant where they decided to push aside the interesting ideas of Prometheus so we can watch a semi-remake of the original Alien.

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 06, 2018, 09:14:32 PM
Oh I can only imagine if they had this "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality when they were coming up with a sequel for Alien.

Quote from: D88M on Jul 06, 2018, 10:33:48 PM
Test screenings, test audiences, and reshoots are dumb and pointless. Also how STUPID is to put the awful AVP movies into canon? From the leaked script this movie sounded awful and it just gets worse with every article.

Quote"friendly" Predators that we've previously seen photos of completely cut from the film, as is the entire APC sequence and the various hybrid creatures

Quote from: D88M on Jul 06, 2018, 10:33:48 PM
Test screenings, test audiences, and reshoots are dumb and pointless. Also how STUPID is to put the awful AVP movies into canon? From the leaked script this movie sounded awful and it just gets worse with every article.

Quote from: D88M on Jul 06, 2018, 10:33:48 PM
Test screenings, test audiences, and reshoots are dumb and pointless. Also how STUPID is to put the awful AVP movies into canon? From the leaked script this movie sounded awful and it just gets worse with every article.

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 06, 2018, 11:04:18 PM
Maybe the Predators are time travellers. Lol.

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 06, 2018, 11:07:37 PM
The shuriken doesn't, but the spear is a much too specific reference. It's character-related, it's not a piece of mass-manufactured gear that found its way in Predator stories besides AVP like the shuriken. Lex's spear was kind of made out of a xenomorph's tail, it's related to her and directly to the xeno species. It pretty much makes AVP canon.

Quote from: Master on Jul 06, 2018, 09:12:35 PM

Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jul 06, 2018, 08:52:43 PM

Quote from: frenchfries on Jul 06, 2018, 08:26:10 PM
I'm actually really happy with these changes. Sounded like they had way too much going on in the previous cuts. I just want a solid Shane black predator film, I don't need a bunch of new stuff for the sake of having new stuff. And I am surprised that people are disappointed with a third act that consists of a hunt..in the forest...IN A PREDATOR MOVIE. That's like complaining that a saw movie ends with booby traps.

But that's what every predator film boils down too, God forbid they actually try to give us something fresh and new. "Predators don't just sit around making hats out of rib cages, they conquered space." was a great line because it implies that the predators actually have a master plan for their race but now it seems we're just going to get a few lines of dialogue hinting at a much more interesting story while we have to watch a predator "make hats out of rib cages" again, just like all the other films. This will be just like Alien Covenant where they decided to push aside the interesting ideas of Prometheus so we can watch a semi-remake of the original Alien.

Do the humans have a master plan for their race? Maybe aside of f**king one another over percentage?

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 06, 2018, 11:07:37 PM
The shuriken doesn't, but the spear is a much too specific reference. It's character-related, it's not a piece of mass-manufactured gear that found its way in Predator stories besides AVP like the shuriken. Lex's spear was kind of made out of a xenomorph's tail, it's related to her and directly to the xeno species. It pretty much makes AVP canon.

Quote from: The Old One on Jul 06, 2018, 10:34:38 PM

Quote from: D88M on Jul 06, 2018, 10:33:48 PM
Test screenings, test audiences, and reshoots are dumb and pointless. Also how STUPID is to put the awful AVP movies into canon? From the leaked script this movie sounded awful and it just gets worse with every article.

Idk, AVP being canon just... doesn't even make any sense at this point.

Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 06, 2018, 10:41:25 PM
IDK, AVP being canon makes sense if you accept that xenos exist in the Predator universe, but that the Alien films are separate. I personally like that they're getting acknowledged, it bugs me when stuff gets retconned like what happened to the last few Terminator movies.

Quote from: MudButt on Jul 06, 2018, 10:45:34 PM

Quote from: D88M on Jul 06, 2018, 10:33:48 PM
Test screenings, test audiences, and reshoots are dumb and pointless. Also how STUPID is to put the awful AVP movies into canon? From the leaked script this movie sounded awful and it just gets worse with every article.

Studios do them for every movie. Any movie you have love has had test screenings, gotten results from the audience and made the required changes they think will make the movie better. Most bigger budget movies go through re-shoots, it's built into their budget. Numerous times during the editing process the director will see that something is missing and having the ability to back and tweak something or re-shoot a sequence can greatly improve a movie. People hear re-shoots and assume the movie is a train wreck, when a lot of times it's not even close to being true. Ever since the FANT4STIC drama people get scared when they hear test screenings and re-shoots. It's ridiculous.

A scene with a spear from AvP is not that big of a deal. It's going to be a quick nod for the fans of the franchise. I doubt it will affect the movie at all.

Quote from: ace3g on Jul 06, 2018, 10:44:59 PM

Quote"friendly" Predators that we've previously seen photos of completely cut from the film, as is the entire APC sequence and the various hybrid creatures

Kinda sucks for the actors that did the creature work for those 2 predators.

Also unless I missed it, is there a link to the full article?

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 06, 2018, 11:07:37 PM
The shuriken doesn't, but the spear is a much too specific reference. It's character-related, it's not a piece of mass-manufactured gear that found its way in Predator stories besides AVP like the shuriken. Lex's spear was kind of made out of a xenomorph's tail, it's related to her and directly to the xeno species. It pretty much makes AVP canon.

Quote from: genocyber on Jul 07, 2018, 12:14:59 AM
Remember when FOX wanted the Predalien to wear armor and skin Preds and made them shoot that for the movie? Reshoots are a good way to back pedal on retarded ideas that would destroy franchises.

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 07, 2018, 12:25:33 AM
I just automatically thought of the xeno-tail spear. I hardly even remembered the spear the Elder Predator gives Lex, and I rewatched AVP last year... If they're gonna make a callback, the xeno-tail spear is one everyone will recognize.

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 07, 2018, 12:25:33 AM
I just automatically thought of the xeno-tail spear. I hardly even remembered the spear the Elder Predator gives Lex, and I rewatched AVP last year... If they're gonna make a callback, the xeno-tail spear is one everyone will recognize.

Quote from: blood. on Jul 07, 2018, 12:28:23 AM
I would like to see character deaths intentionally filmed twice for misdirection in all future movie trailers just to throw people off. 

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Quote from: Danversity on Jul 07, 2018, 12:25:33 AM
I just automatically thought of the xeno-tail spear. I hardly even remembered the spear the Elder Predator gives Lex, and I rewatched AVP last year... If they're gonna make a callback, the xeno-tail spear is one everyone will recognize.

Since they are acknowledging the avp movies, does this mean all this predator & avp history happened on earth even in the alien films?

Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 07, 2018, 12:33:28 AM

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 07, 2018, 12:25:33 AM
I just automatically thought of the xeno-tail spear. I hardly even remembered the spear the Elder Predator gives Lex, and I rewatched AVP last year... If they're gonna make a callback, the xeno-tail spear is one everyone will recognize.

Didnt lex lose the xeno tail spear? I think it sank with the Queen.

However i would suspect everyone would likely remember the spear that they elder gifted her. I know its what i instantly thought when i heard the news.

Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 07, 2018, 01:08:28 AM
As long as it's not the rape tail from the original.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 01:11:39 AM

Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 07, 2018, 01:08:28 AM
As long as it's not the rape tail from the original.

I love the rape tail. Especially if it's 5 O' Clock.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 01:11:39 AM

I love the rape tail. Especially if it's 5 O' Clock.

Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jul 06, 2018, 11:23:28 PMMy hope is someone convinces fox further down the road to ignore everything after predator 2 similar to the new Halloween and terminator and just make everything that has been a waste ignored. Now a remake of AvP that was Stephen and Stephanie Perry' version which Paul Anderson basically copied and pasted into a pyramid that would be bad ass with the right director and actors

Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 06, 2018, 10:55:52 PM
Test audiences were right in at least one instance. Letting LL Cool J live at the end of Deep Blue Sea instead of the woman was the right move.

Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 07, 2018, 02:50:46 AM
Ok...I was actually looking forward to the Friendly Predators, I wasn't really against that.

What an odd choice...

Quote from: Huggs on Jul 07, 2018, 03:05:48 AM
Then does this make him Edward James Almost?  ;)

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 03:02:20 AM

Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 07, 2018, 02:50:46 AM
Ok...I was actually looking forward to the Friendly Predators, I wasn't really against that.

What an odd choice...

Not really. They're basically worthless in the script. Two, three scenes, maybe five minutes of total screen time. It's better not to damage the classic Predator image further. Two Predators and the hounds sounds ideal to me.

The only real shame is we lost Edward James Olmos. :(

Quote from: Tetsujin on Jul 06, 2018, 08:05:27 PM
How many pred dogs are left after reshoots...  Just one ???


And this scenes was deleted: 1 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-53.jpg)  2 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-68.jpg)  3 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-67.jpg)  4 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-71.jpg)  5 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-69.jpg)    ???

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 03:20:16 AM
Prohibitively expensive I would say. They were just a bad idea all around.

No, instead, if it were me I would have Captured get horribly injured by Upgrade, maybe the Loonies rescue him, he spends a large chunk of the film in "recovery" on the bus, unconscious mostly, and then in the end he comes back to fight Upgrade, buying our heroes enough time to set a trap.

Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 07, 2018, 03:13:25 AM

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 03:02:20 AM

Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 07, 2018, 02:50:46 AM
Ok...I was actually looking forward to the Friendly Predators, I wasn't really against that.

What an odd choice...

Not really. They're basically worthless in the script. Two, three scenes, maybe five minutes of total screen time. It's better not to damage the classic Predator image further. Two Predators and the hounds sounds ideal to me.

The only real shame is we lost Edward James Olmos. :(

Well change that instead IMO. Rather than straight up remove them, add meat to their scenes.

Quote from: Huggs on Jul 07, 2018, 05:45:04 AM
The image would definitely be damaged. After that whupping the classic predator took from the Beserker in Predators, having Big Chad mow even more of them down would just be icing on the crap cake. The classic predator would be in danger of going the Alien route of AVP. Weak fodder, for superior hunters. Sakes alive, that's ignoring all the hell that Harrigan was giving City Hunter.

Quote from: The Old One on Jul 07, 2018, 05:48:32 AM
I thought the Crucified did well for something fighting a cheater. It depends on portrayal and the circumstances the creatures are in.

Quote from: Huggs on Jul 07, 2018, 05:45:04 AM
The image would definitely be damaged. After that whupping the classic predator took from the Beserker in Predators, having Big Chad mow even more of them down would just be icing on the crap cake. The classic predator would be in danger of going the Alien route of AVP. Weak fodder, for superior hunters. Sakes alive, that's ignoring all the hell that Harrigan was giving City Hunter.

Quote from: LxSFjT on Jul 06, 2018, 09:50:14 PM
Now if only they can get rid of the "Super-Duper Predator", the brain dead Pred-Dog, the unnecessary AVP references, and the kid then the movie will at least be watchable and average.

Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 07, 2018, 12:33:28 AM
However i would suspect everyone would likely remember the spear that they elder gifted her.

Quote from: Tetsujin on Jul 07, 2018, 04:03:22 AM
And this scenes was deleted: 1 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-53.jpg)  2 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-68.jpg)  3 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-67.jpg)  4 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-71.jpg)  5 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-69.jpg)    ???

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 07, 2018, 04:22:44 AM
I think the report didn't specify how many Predadogs are in the movie... I just says that the creature of the predator dog remains. Hicks will know better

Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 07, 2018, 08:51:22 AM

These scenes were also cut (most likely):

The Ark's (probably) 3rd crash landing

jpg

Hybrids' attack on Area 52

jpg

I'm very disappointed. :(

Quote from: Tetsujin on Jul 07, 2018, 10:04:18 AM
But NOOOOOOO.... this screencaptures (mostly last) very like for me.
SAD  :-[

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 06, 2018, 10:52:45 PM

Quote from: D88M on Jul 06, 2018, 10:33:48 PM
Test screenings, test audiences, and reshoots are dumb and pointless. Also how STUPID is to put the awful AVP movies into canon? From the leaked script this movie sounded awful and it just gets worse with every article.

Yeeaaahhh right? I mean, I would've much preferred for the ET to have died in the end of ET, damn those stupid dumb test screenings and reshoots that dared change that. Don't even get me started on Scott Pilgrim.

That was sarcasm again, by the way.

Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 07, 2018, 10:56:24 AM

Quote from: Tetsujin on Jul 07, 2018, 10:04:18 AM
But NOOOOOOO.... this screencaptures (mostly last) very like for me.
SAD  :-[

Yeah, that's the situation. :(
Although Hicks did not mention in his article, but if the APC action scenes, the 2 Defectors, the Hybrids were cut out, it means that the whole Area 52 part with the Military ,

Spoiler

the F22s fighting the Ark

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and General Woodruff (Edward James Olmos' character) would be pointless to leave in the film, so I'm sure these parts were also cut out...

Also, if the Hybrids are not in the film, then what the hell are in those 8 cryotubes stored on the Ark? What creatures

Spoiler

do massacre at Rory's house

[close]

in the middle of the film? Did they shoot a half new movie in February or what the hell?

Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 07, 2018, 10:56:24 AM

Quote from: Tetsujin on Jul 07, 2018, 10:04:18 AM
But NOOOOOOO.... this screencaptures (mostly last) very like for me.
SAD  :-[

Yeah, that's the situation. :(
Although Hicks did not mention in his article, but if the APC action scenes, the 2 Defectors, the Hybrids were cut out, it means that the whole Area 52 part with the Military ,

Spoiler

the F22s fighting the Ark

[close]

and General Woodruff (Edward James Olmos' character) would be pointless to leave in the film, so I'm sure these parts were also cut out...

Also, if the Hybrids are not in the film, then what the hell are in those 8 cryotubes stored on the Ark? What creatures

Spoiler

do massacre at Rory's house

[close]

in the middle of the film? Did they shoot a half new movie in February or what the hell?


Also, regarding the picture about the P1 Predator shown to Casey... What came to my mind is that maybe Hopper's team got the chance to take a quick bad quality picture about the Jungle Hunter? Or the crew in the recon helicopter (found by Dutch's team) could take picture about it and managed to send it to Dillon. Or possibly the Russians in the guerilla camp. Who knows?

Quote from: Dusk on Jul 07, 2018, 07:20:38 AM
You know, if they wanted to actually do something different with the franchise, how about a Movie where a Predator actually wins at the end?

I always pictured a scenario, where a Predator kills his worthy prey in front of their family, or maybe just their child. The Predator is victorious and collects his last trophy, when he notices the child that witnessed the whole fight. He calmly and non-threateningly walks over, kneels down in front of the child and stares into its eyes. A moment of silence and then the Predator utters these words. "Maybe next time..." Then he gets up and leaves. The Movie could end with a flash forward, the child is now all grown up and a respectable soldier, because he joined the military after the events of the Movie. Then the scene switches to the Predator heat vision and... The End.

Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 07, 2018, 08:51:22 AM

Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 07, 2018, 12:33:28 AM
However i would suspect everyone would likely remember the spear that they elder gifted her.

I don't know how can one think that it's the xeno-tailed spear.
It's quite clear that it will be the spear the Elder gave Lex.
Just need a little logic: Stargazer collects Predator stuff. There are ONLY Predator stuff displayed in the lab. Why would there be a kind of rudimentary spear?

Quote from: Tetsujin on Jul 07, 2018, 04:03:22 AM
And this scenes was deleted: 1 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-53.jpg)  2 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-68.jpg)  3 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-67.jpg)  4 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-71.jpg)  5 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-69.jpg)    ???

These scenes were also cut (most likely):

The Ark's (probably) 3rd crash landing
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kepfeltoltes.eu%2Fimages%2Fhdd1%2F2018%2F07%2F07%2F917cut01.jpg&hash=7774c990f1a40ee0e1d0758b7044eec82dd3fa1b) (http://www.kepfeltoltes.eu/view.php?filename=917cut01.jpg)

Hybrids' attack on Area 52
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kepfeltoltes.eu%2Fimages%2Fhdd1%2F2018%2F07%2F07%2F155cut03.jpg&hash=820ecb833c1d082924dc6264ff153cdd193209a8) (http://www.kepfeltoltes.eu/view.php?filename=155cut03.jpg)

I'm very disappointed. :(

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 07, 2018, 02:21:44 PM

Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 07, 2018, 08:51:22 AM

Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 07, 2018, 12:33:28 AM
However i would suspect everyone would likely remember the spear that they elder gifted her.

I don't know how can one think that it's the xeno-tailed spear.
It's quite clear that it will be the spear the Elder gave Lex.
Just need a little logic: Stargazer collects Predator stuff. There are ONLY Predator stuff displayed in the lab. Why would there be a kind of rudimentary spear?

Quote from: Tetsujin on Jul 07, 2018, 04:03:22 AM
And this scenes was deleted: 1 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-53.jpg)  2 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-68.jpg)  3 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-67.jpg)  4 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-71.jpg)  5 (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-69.jpg)    ???

These scenes were also cut (most likely):

The Ark's (probably) 3rd crash landing
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kepfeltoltes.eu%2Fimages%2Fhdd1%2F2018%2F07%2F07%2F917cut01.jpg&hash=7774c990f1a40ee0e1d0758b7044eec82dd3fa1b) (http://www.kepfeltoltes.eu/view.php?filename=917cut01.jpg)

Hybrids' attack on Area 52
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kepfeltoltes.eu%2Fimages%2Fhdd1%2F2018%2F07%2F07%2F155cut03.jpg&hash=820ecb833c1d082924dc6264ff153cdd193209a8) (http://www.kepfeltoltes.eu/view.php?filename=155cut03.jpg)

I'm very disappointed. :(

I somehow really doubt that these two scenes are cut. They don't seem to have anything to do with the ones mentioned to be cut, the Ark's crash landing and the attack shots have been featured in all 3 trailers now - I know it's common from stuff from the trailers not make it to the final film, but not when it's something so vital that's been shown in every piece of promotional material. Remember all the trailers came out after the reshoots, what's been promoted ever since the first teaser is the version with the newly shot 3rd act - the friendly Preds and APC sequence being cut is not a result of the reshoots, it's just something they did now in this last test screening, we can assume they were still there in the post-reshoots test screenings that took place before this one.

Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jul 07, 2018, 05:57:52 PM
Isn't that shot of the dead soldiers in the hallway just the aftermath of Captured's escape?

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 03:20:16 AM
Prohibitively expensive I would say. They were just a bad idea all around.

No, instead, if it were me I would have Captured get horribly injured by Upgrade, maybe the Loonies rescue him, he spends a large chunk of the film in "recovery" on the bus, unconscious mostly, and then in the end he comes back to fight Upgrade, buying our heroes enough time to set a trap.

Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jul 07, 2018, 05:57:52 PM
Isn't that shot of the dead soldiers in the hallway just the aftermath of Captured's escape?

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 03:20:16 AM
No, instead, if it were me I would have Captured get horribly injured by Upgrade, maybe the Loonies rescue him, he spends a large chunk of the film in "recovery" on the bus, unconscious mostly, and then in the end he comes back to fight Upgrade, buying our heroes enough time to set a trap.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 03:02:20 AM

Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 07, 2018, 02:50:46 AM
Ok...I was actually looking forward to the Friendly Predators, I wasn't really against that.

What an odd choice...

Not really. They're basically worthless in the script. Two, three scenes, maybe five minutes of total screen time. It's better not to damage the classic Predator image further. Two Predators and the hounds sounds ideal to me.

The only real shame is we lost Edward James Olmos. :(

Quote from: yautjapet on Jul 07, 2018, 06:18:32 PM

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 03:20:16 AM
No, instead, if it were me I would have Captured get horribly injured by Upgrade, maybe the Loonies rescue him, he spends a large chunk of the film in "recovery" on the bus, unconscious mostly, and then in the end he comes back to fight Upgrade, buying our heroes enough time to set a trap.

I'd really like this. I think that was my main disappointment with the loss of the friendly preds - that after Captive dies, we're only left with Upgrade, and no main classic pred to be invested in. I think your idea would be more satisfying.

I'll also say that though I was initially disappointed about the friendlies being cut, I'm at least somewhat placated to learn that their appearance in the script was minor. I would've thought their motivations would be delved into more, as characters rather than mere brief "cameos," but if that was never the case I guess no great loss...?

Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jul 07, 2018, 06:08:18 PM
didn't work in Freddy vs Jason

Quote from: yautjapet on Jul 07, 2018, 06:18:32 PM
I'd really like this. I think that was my main disappointment with the loss of the friendly preds - that after Captive dies, we're only left with Upgrade, and no main classic pred to be invested in. I think your idea would be more satisfying.

I'll also say that though I was initially disappointed about the friendlies being cut, I'm at least somewhat placated to learn that their appearance in the script was minor. I would've thought their motivations would be delved into more, as characters rather than mere brief "cameos," but if that was never the case I guess no great loss...?

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 07, 2018, 06:39:39 PM
Except we don't know just when Capture dies - or if he dies after all.

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 07, 2018, 06:39:39 PM
I'm thinking Captured probably dies, but I'm sure it's not gonna be like in the script, however that is (I haven't read it).

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 07:29:19 PM

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 07, 2018, 06:39:39 PM
I'm thinking Captured probably dies, but I'm sure it's not gonna be like in the script, however that is (I haven't read it).

A few minor details are changed, but

Spoiler

his exit from the story happens at the same point, and under the same circumstances.

[close]

Quote from: ViewerAnon on Jul 07, 2018, 07:36:29 PM
Most of it has been shown in the trailer.

Spoiler

Upgrade tears the classic Predator out of the school.  He then rips its head off and does the classic spine trophy thing.

[close]

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 07:29:19 PM

Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jul 07, 2018, 06:08:18 PM
didn't work in Freddy vs Jason

It worked fine. Freddy Vs Jason is arguably the best of the versus films. Keeping Jason unconscious like a ticking time bomb made perfect sense.

Quote from: yautjapet on Jul 07, 2018, 06:18:32 PM
I'd really like this. I think that was my main disappointment with the loss of the friendly preds - that after Captive dies, we're only left with Upgrade, and no main classic pred to be invested in. I think your idea would be more satisfying.

I'll also say that though I was initially disappointed about the friendlies being cut, I'm at least somewhat placated to learn that their appearance in the script was minor. I would've thought their motivations would be delved into more, as characters rather than mere brief "cameos," but if that was never the case I guess no great loss...?

Well, the dialogue regarding their appearance in the script is almost literally. "Here's your backup" "They've been here awhile" "They don't agree with what others of their kind are doing."

and that's about it.

I don't even see it as a spoiler now that they're cut. They're kind of played up in the first scene. Like there's this reveal where they turn around and reveal themselves... and then f**k all is done with them. I was really honestly surprised.

It's almost like how in some action movies you have more cops show up on the scene, only the badguys just start gunning them down like sacks of meat.

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 07, 2018, 06:39:39 PM
Except we don't know just when Capture dies - or if he dies after all.

We actually do. We definitely do know that he dies, and how he dies.

Quote from: Danversity on Jul 07, 2018, 06:39:39 PM
I'm thinking Captured probably dies, but I'm sure it's not gonna be like in the script, however that is (I haven't read it).

A few minor details are changed, but

Spoiler

his exit from the story happens at the same point, and under the same circumstances.

[close]

Quote from: Dusk on Jul 07, 2018, 07:55:16 PM
So, after all the changes they've done to the script, reshooting the entire 3rd act, we still...

Spoiler

end up with a Movie that craps all over the original Predator. The 2nd Movie in a row. Why is all the super/hybrid Predator nonsense needed? Why is a 7ft tall creature, that can bulldozer through walls, throw you around like a ragdoll and tear you limb from limb, armed to the teeth with high-tech weaponry, not badass enough anymore? The original is already so superior to us, that adding another to 2 feet to the creature doesn't really change a lot. A regular Predator could tear out a man's spine with ease, so a hybrid Predator rips out spines easier? The Movie will probably end the same way anyway, by outsmarting the Predator.

[close]

Quote from: Dusk on Jul 07, 2018, 07:33:45 PM

Spoiler

Would that be the moment we see in the Trailer? With Upgrade towering over Captured and Captured appearing all wobbly on his legs?

[close]

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 07, 2018, 08:01:07 PM
I think the implication in The Predator is that Captured/Fugitive isn't

Spoiler

a classic, but another Upgraded one. Just not one that's gone to the same level as the big mofo has.

[close]

I'm not 100% on that, though.

Quote from: Dusk on Jul 07, 2018, 07:55:16 PM
So, after all the changes they've done to the script, reshooting the entire 3rd act, we still...

Spoiler

end up with a Movie that craps all over the original Predator. The 2nd Movie in a row. Why is all the super/hybrid Predator nonsense needed? Why is a 7ft tall creature, that can bulldozer through walls, throw you around like a ragdoll and tear you limb from limb, armed to the teeth with high-tech weaponry, not badass enough anymore? The original is already so superior to us, that adding another to 2 feet to the creature doesn't really change a lot. A regular Predator could tear out a man's spine with ease, so a hybrid Predator rips out spines easier? The Movie will probably end the same way anyway, by outsmarting the Predator.

[close]

Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 07, 2018, 08:38:26 PM
The upgrade is the indominus rex of the Predator universe. These things got bored hunting rodents so they hybridize some new prey and it got out. The end.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 07, 2018, 08:29:18 PM
Who says he'd just hunting them...if he's trying to find the best warrior out of the lot of them...

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 08:40:37 PM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 07, 2018, 08:38:26 PM
The upgrade is the indominus rex of the Predator universe. These things got bored hunting rodents so they hybridize some new prey and it got out. The end.

You think the Upgrade was intended as... Prey?

Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Jul 07, 2018, 08:14:22 PM

Quote from: Dusk on Jul 07, 2018, 07:55:16 PM
So, after all the changes they've done to the script, reshooting the entire 3rd act, we still...

Spoiler

end up with a Movie that craps all over the original Predator. The 2nd Movie in a row. Why is all the super/hybrid Predator nonsense needed? Why is a 7ft tall creature, that can bulldozer through walls, throw you around like a ragdoll and tear you limb from limb, armed to the teeth with high-tech weaponry, not badass enough anymore? The original is already so superior to us, that adding another to 2 feet to the creature doesn't really change a lot. A regular Predator could tear out a man's spine with ease, so a hybrid Predator rips out spines easier? The Movie will probably end the same way anyway, by outsmarting the Predator.

[close]

I'm more concerned about what the re-shoots did to the concept of the upgrade. Instead of upgrading himself for the purposes of invading earth. He just kills the original predator and then gives the humans a head start just so he can hunt them? What's the point of Upgrading if he's just going to do what every other predator has done? Why would he feel the need to hunt humans when they are now like insects to him? didn't he already inject countless other human and creature DNA into himself already? Is the whole earth invasion thing still part of the plot? It's like they're stripping away the logic but keeping the big predator because "Biggerer is betterer. Dur." story-wise, there's no point of the upgrade if he's not doing anything new or special. Might as well just made this movie about a 'good' predator hunting a bad predator, minus the steroids.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 07, 2018, 08:41:52 PM

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 08:40:37 PM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 07, 2018, 08:38:26 PM
The upgrade is the indominus rex of the Predator universe. These things got bored hunting rodents so they hybridize some new prey and it got out. The end.

You think the Upgrade was intended as... Prey?

That'd actually be an interesting twist...

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 08:40:37 PM

Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 07, 2018, 08:38:26 PM
The upgrade is the indominus rex of the Predator universe. These things got bored hunting rodents so they hybridize some new prey and it got out. The end.

You think the Upgrade was intended as... Prey?

Quote from: SiL on Jun 29, 2018, 08:35:33 PM
https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/749b9aea-98dd-438f-a935-c088d0d4148c_1.06f71479f34b7c1b2c21d2e0bccaf20c.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF

Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 07, 2018, 08:38:26 PM
The upgrade is the indominus rex of the Predator universe. These things got bored hunting rodents so they hybridize some new prey and it got out. The end.

Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 07, 2018, 09:26:41 PM
However the the Indominus Rex, while overall superior, was still done in by two weaker (one like 3 times smaller) regular dinosaurs, which in doing some shows respect and honor. Because you can't beat a classic.

We aren't getting that here.

Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 07, 2018, 09:46:09 PM
I'll probably be just as mad when I see it play out in the movie as I was when I first read about it...

Spoiler

Captured will probably be all dazed and confused after being slammed into the car and Upgrade will practically pluck his skull right off his shoulders.

[close]

Quote from: Dusk on Jul 07, 2018, 08:46:40 PM
Honestly, it's time to start adapting some of the comics. Just Watchmen style, translating the page to the screen, because whenever writers and directors put their own spin on things, we end up with Predators hunting Aliens in Antarctica, Predator 1 in space, and two outings of the Predator running through the american suburbs.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 07:29:19 PM

Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jul 07, 2018, 06:08:18 PM
didn't work in Freddy vs Jason

It worked fine. Freddy Vs Jason is arguably the best of the versus films. Keeping Jason unconscious like a ticking time bomb made perfect sense.

What drugs are you prescribed? I'd like to try them

Quote from: Dannyboy on Jul 08, 2018, 04:34:07 AM
Anybody here have a thought on how stargazer gets a photo of jungle hunter? I mean my only idea is that the biomask was still recording as the JH dropped it to fight Dutch. Obviously we can say without a doubt that city hunter had plenty of camera time, thanks to OWLF.

Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jul 07, 2018, 06:08:18 PM
What drugs are you prescribed? I'd like to try them

Quote from: Huggs on Jul 08, 2018, 04:40:22 AM
Or heck, maybe a local had the picture. Maybe to them it was proof of some legendary beast like sasquatch or Chupacabra. If the right people found out about it, there's your picture evidence.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 08, 2018, 04:59:19 AM
Maybe a local woman caught it in the middle of taking trophies.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 07, 2018, 09:57:23 PM

Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 07, 2018, 09:26:41 PM
However the the Indominus Rex, while overall superior, was still done in by two weaker (one like 3 times smaller) regular dinosaurs, which in doing some shows respect and honor. Because you can't beat a classic.

We aren't getting that here.

People can besmirch that scene in Jurassic World as excessive fan service all they want, but goddamn dude I was smiling.

Jurassic Park 3 took such a dick punch shot at the audience. For a lot of us we grew up loving Rex from JP. What a wonderfully realized and designed creature. She felt real and alive. Our local seven eleven used to tell dinosaur toys. The preposed, nine inch dolls made of soft plastic/rubber? Every time I would go in there and finally... Finally they had a t-rex.

Then they basically snapped it's avatars neck in the third movie. Unceremoniously. I was well into my teenage years when JP3 came out, but I can imagine the little boy me getting very wet faced had I seen that. Rex was my favorite.

Jurassic World gave her a great build up and, no, she wasn't invincible against I-Rex, but she made a beautiful come back and got the treatment she deserved as an icon of the franchise. Audience expectations are important to consider. Both in the way that you can give the audience what they want, but you can also give them something they won't be expecting.

It's one thing if you're working in basically a vacuum with a completely new project, but when you're coming into a franchise... You have to consider the loyalty of the fan base, and the audience reaction to the things you do.

So in a big way i'm thankful that these test screenings had them go back and do things over that needed to be fixed. I'm honestly shocked, because as I have said many times previously, I couldn't imagine them redoing things down to the fundamental core. But it sounds like that's what they did. Good on em. I'm cautiously optimistic.

And ya know what? The Upgrade looks enough like a proper Predator that I don't mind if he takes the cake. As long as it's done well.

Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 07, 2018, 09:46:09 PM
I'll probably be just as mad when I see it play out in the movie as I was when I first read about it...

Spoiler

Captured will probably be all dazed and confused after being slammed into the car and Upgrade will practically pluck his skull right off his shoulders.

[close]

Yep. He's gonna go for

Spoiler

the spine.

[close]

They gave that away already. T'was a nice piece of art, but uh... Oops.

Quote from: Huggs on Jul 08, 2018, 05:04:20 AM

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 08, 2018, 04:59:19 AM
Maybe a local woman caught it in the middle of taking trophies.

Dear God, even the locals are doing it?  :D

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 08, 2018, 05:09:50 AM

Quote from: Huggs on Jul 08, 2018, 05:04:20 AM

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 08, 2018, 04:59:19 AM
Maybe a local woman caught it in the middle of taking trophies.

Dear God, even the locals are doing it?  :D

It could be something like a low quality, grainy, black and white photo of the jungle hunter in a blur with it's eyes flashing or something.

(https://i.imgur.com/yKX0aDN.jpg)

Quote from: Huggs on Jul 08, 2018, 05:31:11 AM

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 08, 2018, 05:09:50 AM

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Maybe a local woman caught it in the middle of taking trophies.

Dear God, even the locals are doing it?  :D

It could be something like a low quality, grainy, black and white photo of the jungle hunter in a blur with it's eyes flashing or something.

(https://i.imgur.com/yKX0aDN.jpg)

That's what I'm thinking. If done right, it could be really scary lookin', and cool too.There's a lot of ways to make it work.

I'd love to see a picture taken near nightfall in some village. A storm front is moving in and JH would be way up near the edge of a cliff overlooking the village. The rain causing his camo to spark, a physical manifestation of lightening. A malevolent God overlooking the village, before disappearing back into the forest, as the thunder explodes across the sky.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 08, 2018, 06:04:53 AM
Props to Huggs though, it ties into that poster image we got early on.  :)

Quote from: The Old One on Jul 08, 2018, 07:26:18 AM
Shane Black spared no expense. ;D

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Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 08, 2018, 04:59:19 AM
Maybe a local woman caught it in the middle of taking trophies.

Dear God, even the locals are doing it?  :D

It could be something like a low quality, grainy, black and white photo of the jungle hunter in a blur with it's eyes flashing or something.

(https://i.imgur.com/yKX0aDN.jpg)

Quote from: Wysps on Jul 08, 2018, 07:45:45 AM
That is...something else. I like that idea. As an aside, I will say that picture reminds me a little of The Rake.

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...is that genitalia? ??? On second thought don't answer that.

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Quote from: Wysps on Jul 08, 2018, 07:45:45 AM
That is...something else. I like that idea. As an aside, I will say that picture reminds me a little of The Rake.

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...is that genitalia? ??? On second thought don't answer that.

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http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-3199

Quote from: The Old One on Jul 08, 2018, 07:56:48 AM
The rake creeped me out years ago.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 08, 2018, 10:28:32 AM
Why would you be sad?

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Quote from: Dusk on Jul 07, 2018, 08:46:40 PM
Honestly, it's time to start adapting some of the comics. Just Watchmen style, translating the page to the screen, because whenever writers and directors put their own spin on things, we end up with Predators hunting Aliens in Antarctica, Predator 1 in space, and two outings of the Predator running through the american suburbs.

But what would be the point then ? Cinema is a totally different media, better use those differences to create something interesting rather than copy/paste.

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Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 08, 2018, 10:28:32 AM
Why would you be sad?

In my opinion:

Becouse, original 3-d act was more large-scale.

Reshoots make 3-d act less large-scale (we get a standard hunt in the forest)


I keep hoping I'm wrong.  ;) a standard hunt is all you need in a PREDATOR flick!

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Quote from: Dusk on Jul 07, 2018, 08:46:40 PM
Honestly, it's time to start adapting some of the comics. Just Watchmen style, translating the page to the screen, because whenever writers and directors put their own spin on things, we end up with Predators hunting Aliens in Antarctica, Predator 1 in space, and two outings of the Predator running through the american suburbs.

But what would be the point then ? Cinema is a totally different media, better use those differences to create something interesting rather than copy/paste.

Because they already had 3 tries to make something different and interesting. All the Movies either failed to live up to expectations or just crapped all over the regular Predator, by introducing Hollywood's bigger is better mentality. Now we are on attempt number 4, which could turn out to either be great or disappointing like the other ones. The jury is still out on that one. But it doesn't look promising. 

So after 2 bad AvP Movies set on earth, a Movie that sets the first Predator in space and a 4th Movie that before re-shoots had the potential to ruin the Predator franchise entirely, and after the re-shoots now potentially looks like Predators 2.0, I'd love to have at least 1 good comic adaptation. And if that one is well received, maybe they could try to expand things with new Movies from there.

Or you know, wait another 10 years and pull a Halloween, ignoring all Movies that came after the 1st (and 2nd one).

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 08, 2018, 10:28:32 AM
It was awful. Really bad.

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 08, 2018, 12:29:33 PM
Actually AVP was greatly influenced by comics.

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Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 08, 2018, 12:29:33 PM
Actually AVP was greatly influenced by comics.

I know. And we ended up with Predators hunting Aliens inside a Pyramid, in Antarctica. They tried to make something new and interesting with the premise of the original comics and failed miserably.

Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 08, 2018, 03:10:54 PM
But like i said i didnt want them to just be introduced and killed immediatly. If they couldnt make them more important or memorable then cutting them is the best option.

Quote from: YTL_Hunter_H2 on Jul 08, 2018, 11:51:23 AMa standard hunt is all you need in a PREDATOR flick!

Quote from: Master on Jul 08, 2018, 04:51:10 PM
I just would be glad if in next instalments Predator was actual star of it's own film.

Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 08, 2018, 03:36:52 PM
Still no info on why Shane Black's twitter was deleted?

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Quote from: Master on Jul 08, 2018, 04:51:10 PM
I just would be glad if in next instalments Predator was actual star of it's own film.

Overexposure is one of the things that would ruin the franchise IMO.

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Quote from: Master on Jul 08, 2018, 04:51:10 PM
I just would be glad if in next instalments Predator was actual star of it's own film.

Overexposure is one of the things that would ruin the franchise IMO.

I have to agree with this. As cool as it would be to see a day in the life of a predator, it's the mystery and the lack of seeing the creature that makes movies like Jaws, Predator and Alien as frightening and effective as they are. Seeing the main attraction all the time can ideed work for some franchises. Like the transformers, which should never have taken place on earth and featured a bunch of human characters. It should've been a digital film set on Cybertron.

If you focus too much on the predator, there's nothing to fear. He's the predator. And when you start taking the fear out of the creatures, you have to add in bigger meaner ones like Big Chad.

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Quote from: Master on Jul 08, 2018, 04:51:10 PM
I just would be glad if in next instalments Predator was actual star of it's own film.

Overexposure is one of the things that would ruin the franchise IMO.

I have to agree with this. As cool as it would be to see a day in the life of a predator, it's the mystery and the lack of seeing the creature that makes movies like Jaws, Predator and Alien as frightening and effective as they are. Seeing the main attraction all the time can ideed work for some franchises. Like the transformers, which should never have taken place on earth and featured a bunch of human characters. It should've been a digital film set on Cybertron.

If you focus too much on the predator, there's nothing to fear. He's the predator. And when you start taking the fear out of the creatures, you have to add in bigger meaner ones like Big Chad.

I didn`t expressed myself properly. What I mean was, I want my Predator be main antagonist of the next film. No Super Predators, No Upgrades, No Predaliens (like those in AvP-R). I want Predator to be the monster, not a monster.

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Quote from: Master on Jul 08, 2018, 04:51:10 PM
I just would be glad if in next instalments Predator was actual star of it's own film.

Overexposure is one of the things that would ruin the franchise IMO.

I have to agree with this. As cool as it would be to see a day in the life of a predator, it's the mystery and the lack of seeing the creature that makes movies like Jaws, Predator and Alien as frightening and effective as they are. Seeing the main attraction all the time can ideed work for some franchises. Like the transformers, which should never have taken place on earth and featured a bunch of human characters. It should've been a digital film set on Cybertron.

If you focus too much on the predator, there's nothing to fear. He's the predator. And when you start taking the fear out of the creatures, you have to add in bigger meaner ones like Big Chad.

Quote from: Master on Jul 08, 2018, 06:52:42 PM
I didn`t expressed myself properly. What I mean was, I want my Predator be main antagonist of the next film. No Super Predators, No Upgrades, No Predaliens (like those in AvP-R). I want Predator to be the monster, not a monster.

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 08, 2018, 12:29:33 PM
Actually AVP was greatly influenced by comics.

Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 08, 2018, 12:42:46 PM
You think that a military part and a well choregraphed APC chase is awful in a Predator movie?
For example I don't want a P1 film again. We got it in 1987, we got it in 2010, now it seems we get it again.

Quote from: Huggs on Jul 08, 2018, 07:26:54 PM
If we continue with this mentality of "Bigger, Meaner, Deadlier" we're going to completely lose the magic.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 08, 2018, 07:38:36 PM
The next one is going to be 20 feet tall, twice the size, and eat people whole.

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Quote from: Master on Jul 08, 2018, 06:52:42 PM
I didn`t expressed myself properly. What I mean was, I want my Predator be main antagonist of the next film. No Super Predators, No Upgrades, No Predaliens (like those in AvP-R). I want Predator to be the monster, not a monster.

Ah, I apologize. I too would prefer a lone predator. A classic style, to be shown as threatening and capable again. Unfortunately, like I've said before, we're slipping down a bad slope, and the classic predator is being overshadowed and destroyed by beserkers and hybrids. The capabilities of the first two predators were more than enough to cause trouble for any protagonist. If we continue with this mentality of "Bigger, Meaner, Deadlier" we're going to completely lose the magic.

Just like Alien, Hollywood is "innovating" these franchises into failure. It is not possible to continuously improve anything. At some point, something is going to fail and you'll be staring at a product that bears no resemblance to the original. The original alien and predator movies were not in the same position as say, the old marvel films. Where everything looked cheap and cheesy, brightly colored pipes ran along all the walls, and villains cackled in laboratories that looked like something from an elementary school. The studios had to approach those films in a more grown up way, and adjust for the audience. Now we have movies like Iron Man 1 and Civil War.

There was nothing wrong with the original predator movies. The idea and formula were perfect. Adding in predator dogs and spiders and hybrids and beserkers is fluff for the sake of fluff. Assuming you have to have something more crazy or grandiose just to get people to come see the movie is underestimating the audience. We love the originals for what they are, and because they did it well. Show me a trailer for a new predator movie in the spirit of the originals and I'll say "Alright! A new Predator movie!" not "Well, that was boring, where's the big fancy new thing?"

We're going backwards not forwards. It's not necessary for a franchise to always "stay fresh". The important thing is to tell a good story, everytime.

Quote from: MrPeterKeyes666 on Jul 08, 2018, 07:53:50 PM
It's reportedly screening again this week.

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It's reportedly screening again this week.
It would be cool to see the alternate third act on the Bluray, but I doubt it. They never released the alternate third act for Rogue One.

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Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 08, 2018, 12:29:33 PM
Actually AVP was greatly influenced by comics.

None of the particular good parts.

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But that's the risk when you delve deep into comic book influences.

Quote from: yautjapet on Jul 08, 2018, 09:12:41 PM
Though Machiko (or a newly created character very much like her) could still be used in another way, and I'd be totally down to see that.

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Quote from: yautjapet on Jul 08, 2018, 09:12:41 PM
Though Machiko (or a newly created character very much like her) could still be used in another way, and I'd be totally down to see that.

I mean... there is Casey...

I've honestly never seen Olivia Munn act but she at least has the looks, being part Japanese and all. Of course using her character wouldn't fit into any proper timeline if they really try to make any future AVP installments more consistent with the Alien series. Unless they did a whole Predators route where humans are abducted and aliens are also on a hunting planet. Though that doesn't sound nearly as good as other concepts floating around out there, I'd prefer something to take place amongst a colony in space.

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Quote from: yautjapet on Jul 08, 2018, 09:12:41 PM
Though Machiko (or a newly created character very much like her) could still be used in another way, and I'd be totally down to see that.

I mean... there is Casey...

I've honestly never seen Olivia Munn act but she at least has the looks, being part Japanese and all. Of course using her character wouldn't fit into any proper timeline if they really try to make any future AVP installments more consistent with the Alien series. Unless they did a whole Predators route where humans are abducted and aliens are also on a hunting planet. Though that doesn't sound nearly as good as other concepts floating around out there, I'd prefer something to take place amongst a colony in space.

She's part Chinese actually, but yeah.

Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 08, 2018, 10:12:36 PM
Hey wait a second. If the APC battle is completely removed from the film due to the reshoots, why was it in the first trailer?

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Quote from: The Shuriken on Jul 08, 2018, 10:12:36 PM
Hey wait a second. If the APC battle is completely removed from the film due to the reshoots, why was it in the first trailer?

First come the reshoots, then editing. That's where the final film is made.

Quote from: The Old One on Jul 09, 2018, 12:01:27 AM
Explain to me your scenario for X-COM: Predator, if you wouldn't mind.

Quote from: Tetsujin on Jul 08, 2018, 09:41:43 AM
Corporal Hicks, please, you can confirm that?!

Quote from: ace3g on Jul 08, 2018, 03:05:51 PM
When it comes to massive reshoots like this, I wish they would include both cuts on the blu-ray.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 09, 2018, 08:49:21 AM
As far as I'm aware the entire APC sequence is done. Whatever looks like is from that sequence that we've already seen, we might not be seeing in the final film.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 09, 2018, 09:56:33 AM
I think that's been gone for a while. EJO hasn't been in any of the tests I've heard about.

Quote from: Wysps on Jul 09, 2018, 11:36:36 AM
I wonder if they added in another Predator they're not telling us about - how else will they keep the runtime up with all that story they removed?

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 09, 2018, 08:49:21 AMI'm happy to give some over-view information like this article but I'm not spoiling every specific thing. As far as I'm aware the entire APC sequence is done. Whatever looks like is from that sequence that we've already seen, we might not be seeing in the final film.

Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jul 11, 2018, 02:56:28 PM
I definitely want AvP 3 if they can do it justice next time. With how loved Aliens is, I'm really surprised they didn't just try to emulate Aliens with the AvP movies (or any of the Alien sequels tbh). It's a great foundation to reboot AvP and Colonial Marines fighting Aliens and Predators would make for a far more entertaining action movie, than scientists in the Antarctic or teens running around a small US town.

Weyland-Yutani scientists on a colony get hold of some Alien eggs and start experimenting / breeding them, something goes wrong and the company have to send in the Marines to investigate and hopefully salvage their research. A Predator ship is alerted to the Xeno outbreak and see a great hunting opportunity. Similar plot to Aliens but with 3-4 Predator's hunting Aliens and some wisecracking marines caught in the middle.

If they wanted to do the team up thing, they could do it with a couple of badass marines, teaming with the last 2 Predator, as a last resort to survive. Simple plot no need to make it complicated. Just make the action good, with a bit of gore and some good one liners. There you go, a decent AvP movie.

Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jul 11, 2018, 02:56:28 PM
I definitely want AvP 3 if they can do it justice next time. With how loved Aliens is, I'm really surprised they didn't just try to emulate Aliens with the AvP movies (or any of the Alien sequels tbh). It's a great foundation to reboot AvP and Colonial Marines fighting Aliens and Predators would make for a far more entertaining action movie, than scientists in the Antarctic or teens running around a small US town.

Weyland-Yutani scientists on a colony get hold of some Alien eggs and start experimenting / breeding them, something goes wrong and the company have to send in the Marines to investigate and hopefully salvage their research. A Predator ship is alerted to the Xeno outbreak and see a great hunting opportunity. Similar plot to Aliens but with 3-4 Predator's hunting Aliens and some wisecracking marines caught in the middle.

If they wanted to do the team up thing, they could do it with a couple of badass marines, teaming with the last 2 Predator, as a last resort to survive. Simple plot no need to make it complicated. Just make the action good, with a bit of gore and some good one liners. There you go, a decent AvP movie.

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Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jul 11, 2018, 02:56:28 PM
I definitely want AvP 3 if they can do it justice next time. With how loved Aliens is, I'm really surprised they didn't just try to emulate Aliens with the AvP movies (or any of the Alien sequels tbh). It's a great foundation to reboot AvP and Colonial Marines fighting Aliens and Predators would make for a far more entertaining action movie, than scientists in the Antarctic or teens running around a small US town.

Weyland-Yutani scientists on a colony get hold of some Alien eggs and start experimenting / breeding them, something goes wrong and the company have to send in the Marines to investigate and hopefully salvage their research. A Predator ship is alerted to the Xeno outbreak and see a great hunting opportunity. Similar plot to Aliens but with 3-4 Predator's hunting Aliens and some wisecracking marines caught in the middle.

If they wanted to do the team up thing, they could do it with a couple of badass marines, teaming with the last 2 Predator, as a last resort to survive. Simple plot no need to make it complicated. Just make the action good, with a bit of gore and some good one liners. There you go, a decent AvP movie.

Even though the story isn't identitical, this is kind of in the same spirit as the original AvP comic with Broken Tusk and Machiko Noguchi. The original source material for AvP is gold imo (particular the stories with Noguchi and Delacroix). The first AvP would be perfect to do as a movie - I think very little would need to be changed honestly. If push came to shove, it could probably be adapted to take place in present day Earth on a cattle ranch or something. Not nearly as fun, but doable.

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Quote from: Yautja_Warrior on Jul 11, 2018, 04:02:42 PM
Exactly. Studio's are always trying to make massive changes that just aren't needed, they should have more faith in some of this material, instead of trying to go a completely different direction, because they think they know better. AvP and AvP 2 are really good examples of how they really don't know better.

Don't get me wrong, both of those films have a few decent moments (mainly a few action sequences) but overall they are very poor movies and don't come close to the great characters or intense action of Aliens, Predator or even the AvP comics. It would be great to see Broken Tusk and Machiko on the big screen one day.

Walter Hill and David Giler on Alien 1979, is a "really good" example of how they DO know better...just sayin

Quote from: AVP-CAPCOM on Jul 11, 2018, 10:01:40 AM
If "THE-PREDATOR" is including references to ALIEN VS PREDATOR, namely Alexa's spear from AVP, then my interest in this movie has jumped 100%, cause this means we might get an ALIEN/S vs PREDATOR 3 movie set in the future or at least near future..

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 06, 2018, 12:03:56 PM

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After attacking the Project: Stargazer base, Upgrade gives the survivors a chance to escape before he begins to hunt them to find the best fighter amongst them.

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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 06, 2018, 12:03:56 PM

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After attacking the Project: Stargazer base, Upgrade gives the survivors a chance to escape before he begins to hunt them to find the best fighter amongst them.

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Hicks, isn't this a typo or misinformation?

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Attack against the Stargazer base?
In the script the Stargazer base (or shall we call it 'Stargazer lab' instead?) was never attacked by...anyone. In addition it was never mentioned after the Fugitive and the main heroes escape from there.

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But...if the info is correct...I can imagine that

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Traeger transports the Ark to the Stargazer lab (for his own purposes) instead of the military base as Woodhurst ordered him (as written in the script).

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Which would mean some totally new scenes in the Stargazer lab.

But...if the info is incorrect...then maybe the

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the military base scenes (soldiers fighting against...something...now against the Upgrade instead of the Hybrids, as written in the script)

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remained in the 'final' version of the film?

Could you ask this from your sources? :)

Quote from: von on Jul 26, 2018, 07:35:43 AM
not to sound rude but... just 50 more days to worldwide release, surely you can wait? lol

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Quote from: von on Jul 26, 2018, 07:35:43 AM
not to sound rude but... just 50 more days to worldwide release, surely you can wait? lol

Just for maintaining the heat-hype, you know. ;)
This is what interests me.