Sabby, ask and ye shall receive! So let's continue our previous discussion :)
Quote from: Sabby on Feb 27, 2014, 06:54:52 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 27, 2014, 06:40:42 PM
Find a reason to be consistent. What type of body do you want? What type of lifestyle do you want to lead?
Believe me, I know what I need to do, and I'm trying. I'm channeling my self loathing to stick to the Optifast (and yes, I'm doing the proper transitional stages, like your supposed to). I just need to drop weight, nothing specific or advanced right now.
I just thought the conversation could benefit from the perspective of someone who generally knows what they need to do and struggle to do it, as that seems to be the typical kind of story when it comes to weight loss.
We should probably start a fitness thread to continue this.
Education helps quite a bit as well. Education in this case means just enlightening yourself as to why eating properly and exercising is a good idea. Well, I should clarify. Everyone knows it's a good idea but in terms of specifics: what does eating white pasta vs. brown pasta do to your body, why you should do more cardio than weights (depending on your body type), etc...
I'm not familiar with Optifast, but I assume it's an exercise regime. P90X, GSP's RushFit, and the others work I'm sure, but they're like a gym membership. They will only work if you use them consistently.
For those interested in the the low carb dieting, this article has some great basics on how Ketosis works in the body:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/180858.php (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/180858.php)
I've done the low carb diet and it works real fast without the sweat, but to keep it up can be dangerous to your health.
QuoteKetones consist of acetone, acetoacetate or beta-hydroxybutyrate. Very high ketone levels can be toxic, making the blood more acid, and may damage such organs as the kidneys and liver.
Good thread.
Got a question. I've been doing cardio 3 times a week for 30-45 minutes for a little over a month now. When I first started I weighted in at 93kg and I'm now down to 91kg. After this weigh in. I've noticed I'm not gaining weight nor losing weight. Do I need to start dieting in order to lose weight or can I just continue eating shitty food but increase my workout amount? I really hate dieting, I can't for the life of me get excited over eating a cold dry salad or cold grilled chicken 6 times a day every day.
Quote from: AliceApocalypse on Feb 27, 2014, 07:39:59 PM
For those interested in the the low carb dieting, this article has some great basics on how Ketosis works in the body:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/180858.php (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/180858.php)
I've done the low carb diet and it works real fast without the sweat, but to keep it up can be dangerous to your health.
QuoteKetones consist of acetone, acetoacetate or beta-hydroxybutyrate. Very high ketone levels can be toxic, making the blood more acid, and may damage such organs as the kidneys and liver.
Yeah, you can't keep going, and you can't just stop either. There are transitional stages that are supposed to ease you into a more healthy eating pattern.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2014, 08:21:24 PM
Good thread.
Got a question. I've been doing cardio 3 times a week for 30-45 minutes for a little over a month now. When I first started I weighted in at 93kg and I'm now down to 91kg. After this weigh in. I've noticed I'm not gaining weight nor losing weight. Do I need to start dieting in order to lose weight or can I just continue eating shitty food but increase my workout amount? I really hate dieting, I can't for the life of me get excited over eating a cold dry salad or cold grilled chicken 6 times a day every day.
Vary your workout. In all likelihood you've plateaued and are merely sustaining your body with your current workload. What is your cardio routine?
Also you'll be surprised at how much you'll lose lifting as your body eats its fat stores to turn them into muscles.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2014, 08:21:24 PM
Do I need to start dieting in order to lose weight or can I just continue eating shitty food but increase my workout amount? I really hate dieting, I can't for the life of me get excited over eating a cold dry salad or cold grilled chicken 6 times a day every day.
You'll always keep hitting roadblocks if you only ever eat shitty food.
Eating healthily doesn't mean cold dry salads and cold grilled chicken. Tasty food can actually be, y'know, warm.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Feb 27, 2014, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2014, 08:21:24 PM
Good thread.
Got a question. I've been doing cardio 3 times a week for 30-45 minutes for a little over a month now. When I first started I weighted in at 93kg and I'm now down to 91kg. After this weigh in. I've noticed I'm not gaining weight nor losing weight. Do I need to start dieting in order to lose weight or can I just continue eating shitty food but increase my workout amount? I really hate dieting, I can't for the life of me get excited over eating a cold dry salad or cold grilled chicken 6 times a day every day.
Vary your workout. In all likelihood you've plateaued and are merely sustaining your body with your current workload. What is your cardio routine?
Also you'll be surprised at how much you'll lose lifting as your body eats its fat stores to turn them into muscles.
I exclusively use the elliptical machine for at least 30 minutes, 3 times a week. I'll throw in a 45 minute session to mix things up or if I skip a day, I go for an hour. I use the "rolling hills" mode.
1.80 meter height at 91kg. My goal is to get down to 68kg but that's a pipe dream for now. I'd love to have a Johnny Weir body type...absolutely minimal body fat LOL.
You'll maintain your weight but you need to do some different exercises to shock your body.
I have three cardio days a week, I have a slow long distance day where I run at a slower pace from 5-7 miles (depending on how up I'm feeling), and interval day where I'll do what the Army calls 60/120s (sprint for 60 seconds full out walk/jog for 2 minutes) for about two miles worth and then I'll have a day where I do a timed two mile run and then maybe a mile and a half run at a slower pace afterwards.
Throwing in cycling and ellipticals or picking a big hill to run up and down to replace your same old workout will be good ways to mix the routine up. Sometimes I think its less your physical ability and how up you are to work out. When the mind is not motivated the body won't be.
60/120s are the best way I've ever found to make yourself faster.
Of course varying can be just about anything. You could stay on the elliptical and simply work out longer with a slightly different resistance and probably see improvement.
I just get bored working out on the hamster wheels with cardio, I'd rather actually move around, it is less boring to me.
I've been trying to lose weight since last November. I started around 205, but now I've been stuck in the mid 180's for about 5 weeks. I'm 6 feet tall, so I'm wondering if I should actually lose more weight or just try to convert fat to muscle at this point.
All I've done so far is eaten less and have alternated between 3-6 miles walks, and using my elliptical on highest incline and resistance for about half a mile.
It seems like everyone that has single digit body fat almost exclusively lift weights. I just want to see my abs at least once in this life :laugh: :'(
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I'm also going to have a sleep study done, as I have absolutely abysmal cardiovascular performance, showing very little improvement over time. Although I've never been obese, and I'm no longer above 25bmi, sleep apnea is rampant in my family and I've awoken gasping for air many times in a semi conscious haze.
I cannot even fathom how it's possible to run a mile. I'm not even sure I can manage a quarter mile simply jogging. It took me 17 minutes to "run" a mile in 7th grade, which averaged out to a walking pace. I just hope I don't have permanent damage from oxygen deprivation if it turns out I really do have sleep apnea
I'm 6'2" and one hundred eighty is not a bad weight for that height.
If you weight train your body will eat fat to build muscle. So if all your doing is cardio you might look into doing even just a light weight routine. Buy a powerblock or one of those other knock off multi pound adjustable weights (they are cheaper in the long run than buying individual dumbbells) and a bench and you can pretty much take care of chest, biceps/triceps, shoulders, and legs.
Not saying you'll get huge, but it'll help you with toning up.
Also I find it helps to document yourself with pictures or something. When you see yourself everyday it looks like you don't improve. However if you take yourself a photo every week and look back on week 9 to what you looked like on week 1, it can help to keep your motivation up.
This is a really good thread to have :) There's quite a lot of us that are having trouble losing weight.
Here are some websites that are really helpful when it comes to the diet.
My Fitness Pal (http://www.myfitnesspal.com/) this is the one I use
My Calorie Counter (http://www.my-calorie-counter.com/calorie_counter.asp)
Calorie Count (http://caloriecount.about.com/)
IIFYM (http://iifym.com/)
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2014, 08:21:24 PM
Good thread.
Got a question. I've been doing cardio 3 times a week for 30-45 minutes for a little over a month now. When I first started I weighted in at 93kg and I'm now down to 91kg. After this weigh in. I've noticed I'm not gaining weight nor losing weight. Do I need to start dieting in order to lose weight or can I just continue eating shitty food but increase my workout amount? I really hate dieting, I can't for the life of me get excited over eating a cold dry salad or cold grilled chicken 6 times a day every day.
There's smart dieting and bad dieting. Bad dieting is cutting certain types of nutrients (carbs, fats, etc...) out of your diet entirely vs. smart dieting which is simply watching portion size and making better choices in terms of where you get your nutrients from (e.g. good carbs vs. bad carbs). Also, it depends on what your goals are, as well as your body type.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Feb 27, 2014, 10:06:22 PM
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I'm also going to have a sleep study done, as I have absolutely abysmal cardiovascular performance, showing very little improvement over time. Although I've never been obese, and I'm no longer above 25bmi, sleep apnea is rampant in my family and I've awoken gasping for air many times in a semi conscious haze.
I cannot even fathom how it's possible to run a mile. I'm not even sure I can manage a quarter mile simply jogging. It took me 17 minutes to "run" a mile in 7th grade, which averaged out to a walking pace. I just hope I don't have permanent damage from oxygen deprivation if it turns out I really do have sleep apnea
We had a guy in AIT that if you looked at him you'd think he should be one of the fittest guys in our platoon. But the guy could not do situps. He had a six pack but every time we had a PT test he'd always fail by being one or two short of the minimum. It drove our AIT sergeants crazy because they didn't want to have to recycle a soldier who was failing his pt test by two situps even though he had a six pack.
Finally they took him to the tmc to see if he had some underlying condition and found a blockage in one of his legs that wasn't sending him enough blood (through some crazy medical mumbo jumbo way that I don't quite understand) and he'd start getting lightheaded when he laid on his back. It was near the end of the cycle and they performed surgery on him and after a little bit of coming back and reconditioning his body he blew the situps out of the water.
Sometimes there are underlying medical conditions that cause problems.
With cardio though if your trying to improve it is VERY difficult to do so. Before I left for basic I was running two miles in 9 minutes. As somebody that had never run two miles before leaving I thought this was pretty impressive. I very quickly went from two miles in 18 minutes to two miles in about 16:55, but this was failing in the Army. So for ten weeks I ran my ass off with big scary Drill Sergeants shouting in my ear to run faster and finally on the very last pt test I got my run to 15:03 (which is not very good but passing) and passed basic.
So in ten weeks of doing some sort of PT every day I only dropped the total time off my run by three minutes.
It would take another year and a half for me to crack into the 13 minute mark and even get close to maxing out. My fastest two mile time ever was 13:18. My fastest on a graded PT test was 13:30. Its brutal to try to improve cardio. If your doing it right you ought to feel out of breath when you stop and about ready to puke. I think most people stop themselves too early because trying to improve your aerobic fitness is a miserable feeling.
Its definitely my weakness. We two guys in my BCT company that could run their two miles in eleven minutes. Always envious of those f**kers.
Hmm, that's good to know. I feel extremely light headed just by sitting or squatting and then standing up. My left calf muscle and ankle burn like motherf**kers and go numb while out on walks, but my right calf feels completely fine. I get a pinching pain around my left carotid artery sometimes when my blood pressure and pusle rise from exercise, too. In middle school, I'd feel like passing out or puking just from basic cardio tests and I wasn't even overweight then. I was usually with the lazy kids that didn't care about getting a high score, but I was legitimately on the verge of blacking out very quickly.
I'm already prone to hernias. I wonder if I have some other congenital defect. My heart was structurally normal under a 3d ultrasound and ekg shows that it beats correctly. I wonder if I have a narrowing in an artery somewhere.
One of the simplest things you can do if you get lightheaded or have your vision blacking out when you stand up is to drink water. No bullshit.
Not a bottle or some shit, drink water like you've never drank it before then try to do the same exercises, if there is improvement then you have been chronically dehydrated. If there is no improvement, well that was one thing you could cross off your list.
Again I don't know how it works but dehydration can effect you in so many negative ways its crazy. The "head rush" with feeling dizzy and eyes blacking out is a common symptom of being dehydrated. And if you actually live in a first world country there is a good chance you are dehydrated because there are so many substitutes for water that aren't really substitutes for water.
Also being superhydrated will help you run. We used to drink so much water before run days we'd finish our 5-7 miles and then run into the AIT schoolhouse to take massive leaks. Keep you from cramping up. Also if your back hurts when you run strengthen your core with some ab exercises.
That was probably it, then. I only drink water now, but still not enough.
In middle school and high school, I wouldn't even eat breakfast or lunch, and between going to bed and coming home from school, I'd probably go 13-15 hours without water. I hated public bathrooms.
Just superhydrate yourself. Besides having to piss every twenty minutes which is annoying you'll be surprised at how much better you feel overall.
And by superhydrate I don't mean drink a gallon in twenty minutes or anything.
Believe me, adjusting to water is a trial xD I'm an on and off Cola addict. The migraines you get trying to quit can reduce you to a curled up crying mess at first. It's bad enough that I don't want to relapse just to avoid the withdrawals of getting back off of it.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstream1.gifsoup.com%2Fview6%2F2828249%2Farnold-schwarzenegger-training-o.gif&hash=0651e80a3df41c04c6e847633d31674b2362b9c5)
I've got several buddies obsessed with getting Arnold big. To bad none of them can pass the run on the pt test.
100 push-ups and 100 sit-ups, while getting cardio from basketball is all I need to do for fitness.
I really need to work on the muscle building, my upper body strength is horrible. Maybe take a break from cardio since I'm feeling a stress fracture in my foot where I broke it before. This will give me chance to get more muscle and raise that metabolism.
If your considering Navy cardio is probably the most important thing to work on but you'll need to develop your upper body and core strength as well.
Limit your reasons for getting yelled at by whatever the Navy equivalent of a drill sergeant is.
We had one female in bct who couldn't do one situp on the first pt test. Every time a DS would walk into the room they'd drop her for situps and pushups until finally she was beast moding them for the final pt test but I'm sure she didn't appreciate all the extra attention.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2014, 09:55:50 PM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Feb 27, 2014, 08:38:21 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 27, 2014, 08:21:24 PM
Good thread.
Got a question. I've been doing cardio 3 times a week for 30-45 minutes for a little over a month now. When I first started I weighted in at 93kg and I'm now down to 91kg. After this weigh in. I've noticed I'm not gaining weight nor losing weight. Do I need to start dieting in order to lose weight or can I just continue eating shitty food but increase my workout amount? I really hate dieting, I can't for the life of me get excited over eating a cold dry salad or cold grilled chicken 6 times a day every day.
Vary your workout. In all likelihood you've plateaued and are merely sustaining your body with your current workload. What is your cardio routine?
Also you'll be surprised at how much you'll lose lifting as your body eats its fat stores to turn them into muscles.
I exclusively use the elliptical machine for at least 30 minutes, 3 times a week. I'll throw in a 45 minute session to mix things up or if I skip a day, I go for an hour. I use the "rolling hills" mode.
1.80 meter height at 91kg. My goal is to get down to 68kg but that's a pipe dream for now. I'd love to have a Johnny Weir body type...absolutely minimal body fat LOL.
Definitely consider throwing in weights or a body weight program. Lifting weights ups your metabolism during training and also while at rest. If I remember correctly it's something like cardio boosts metabolism for 4 hours after a session while weights raises it for 24 hours. So you're literally burning calories while just sitting. Basic compound moves like squats, deadlift, clean and press, bench press, chin ups and push ups work your entire body and up your testosterone, which also helps burn calories. Marathon cardio is tough mentally so consider doing a full body workout followed by 15 minutes of interval cardio 3 times a week, I bet you'll feel and look better than if you just keep doing cardio only. After weights your body has gone through its sugar and is more apt to burn fat for energy. Intervals burns more because the body doesnt know what to expect and stays in a higher burn zone.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Feb 27, 2014, 10:06:22 PM
I've been trying to lose weight since last November. I started around 205, but now I've been stuck in the mid 180's for about 5 weeks. I'm 6 feet tall, so I'm wondering if I should actually lose more weight or just try to convert fat to muscle at this point.
All I've done so far is eaten less and have alternated between 3-6 miles walks, and using my elliptical on highest incline and resistance for about half a mile.
It seems like everyone that has single digit body fat almost exclusively lift weights. I just want to see my abs at least once in this life :laugh: :'(
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I'm also going to have a sleep study done, as I have absolutely abysmal cardiovascular performance, showing very little improvement over time. Although I've never been obese, and I'm no longer above 25bmi, sleep apnea is rampant in my family and I've awoken gasping for air many times in a semi conscious haze.
I cannot even fathom how it's possible to run a mile. I'm not even sure I can manage a quarter mile simply jogging. It took me 17 minutes to "run" a mile in 7th grade, which averaged out to a walking pace. I just hope I don't have permanent damage from oxygen deprivation if it turns out I really do have sleep apnea
6', 185 lbs sounds slim to me as I'm 5'8" and weigh 200, I've lifted for 2/3 of my life, wear a L shirt and have a 31" waist. Have you ever incorporated air squats or push ups into your routine? Simple exercises like that will strengthen your core and help you with defining abs. To up your running, just jog for a 1/4 mile or until you get winded, walk until you catch your breath and jog again, you'll build up in no time!
Great thread! :) i need to start hitting the gym again.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 01, 2014, 05:14:27 AM
If your considering Navy cardio is probably the most important thing to work on but you'll need to develop your upper body and core strength as well.
Limit your reasons for getting yelled at by whatever the Navy equivalent of a drill sergeant is.
We had one female in bct who couldn't do one situp on the first pt test. Every time a DS would walk into the room they'd drop her for situps and pushups until finally she was beast moding them for the final pt test but I'm sure she didn't appreciate all the extra attention.
No doubt, I've been working hard on cardio. I also have to be careful to not hurt myself and ignore a pain in my knee or a stress fracture in the foot. I need to balance my work out better. Lessen my cardio and do more weight training: do elliptical with weight training one night, then do the treadmill and weight training the next night, instead of doing treadmill and elliptical every time I go to the gym and ignoring lifting. I'm also working on HIIT, especially upper body.
I'm actually pretty gym stupid to be honest ^_^;; cardio's easier to do and I can do it mindlessly, where weight lifting requires more keeping track.
So I had McD's last night for the first time in two weeks, and that comes after a week of sticking to my diet plan and working out three times this week. It tasted like crap :P
On cardio vs. weight lifting, it's important to find a good balance between the two. Strength and cardio training is what it's literally called. It's what pro fighters do. It's what I began with when I first started training and I felt great. It won't sculpt you too much but will do wonders for your overall fitness.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 01, 2014, 04:09:34 PM
So I had McD's last night for the first time in two weeks, and that comes after a week of sticking to my diet plan and working out three times this week. It tasted like crap :P
I know how that is, after years of dieting, there are sugary foods I can no longer eat without getting sick. I hate going out with friends and they're getting milk shakes and soda, and all I get is a cup of coffee or ice tea. Not that that's a bad thing, a milk shake is like 800-1000 calories a serving... so I'm not missing anything.
Yeah, my problem is I'm putting too much emphasis on cardio, not enough to weight training. I'll go on the treadmill for 20 minutes, do some weight lifting, then 30-60 minutes on the elliptical (some of the machines allow 60 min) and then go home. I know that's not good and is unbalanced. I've been going online to look for some good HIIT workouts that'll give me a variety for lifting.
Just out of curiosity, what are some good workout that'll help towards getting better at situps and pushups? I'm already doing those (well, angled pushups), I'm just curious as to what else would help.
Military is more muscular endurance than anything else.
If you are considering it an option (you'll usually have like three or four months before your ship date after swearing in) look at the PT standards for both your gender and age (but be careful because they are about to start using some gender neutral standards) and try to hit them before you go to bed or something.
You want to do everything possible not to draw the ire of your DS whilst there because everybody else is going to get you dropped for "corrective training," enough already.
Weight training won't hurt you, but its about how many repetitions you can do with your body more than overall strength levels.
Pushups/situps/pullups/flutter kicks/air squats/burpees/8 count pushups (my personal non favorites)/power jump etc.
Also study some facing movements (left face, right face, about face, etc) to be ahead of the game.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 01, 2014, 05:25:03 PM
Military is more muscular endurance than anything else.
If you are considering it an option (you'll usually have like three or four months before your ship date after swearing in) look at the PT standards for both your gender and age (but be careful because they are about to start using some gender neutral standards) and try to hit them before you go to bed or something.
You want to do everything possible not to draw the ire of your DS whilst there because everybody else is going to get you dropped for "corrective training," enough already.
Weight training won't hurt you, but its about how many repetitions you can do with your body more than overall strength levels.
Pushups/situps/pullups/flutter kicks/air squats/burpees/8 count pushups (my personal non favorites)/power jump etc.
Also study some facing movements (left face, right face, about face, etc) to be ahead of the game.
thank you
If anyone has the stomach for it, try this out, lol
http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/brock-lesnar-hardcore-mma-workout (http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/brock-lesnar-hardcore-mma-workout)
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 03, 2014, 12:21:18 PM
If anyone has the stomach for it, try this out, lol
http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/brock-lesnar-hardcore-mma-workout (http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/brock-lesnar-hardcore-mma-workout)
If my goal was to cross the chromosome border, your on :o
Everyone has 15 minutes. Give your body these fifteen minutes and notice the difference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfpMD4-KmlA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfpMD4-KmlA#ws)
*Quick note, no matter how anyone feels/reads online about Dr Oz, it's Shaun T who delivers on this one ;)
I just went for a walk to get a Pepsi Max and a ceasar wrap (my fortnightly ritual while on Optifast) and I was getting irritated by something. I was unconsciously pulling my pants up. Usually my belt is so tight it will leave marks after a while, and I can only get it down to the biggest size, but I had to go into an alley and unbuckle to make it smaller.
I'm really happy right now.
Great job Sabby :)
Thank you ^^ sucks being an endomorph, but we all have our battles.
Quote from: Sabby on Mar 03, 2014, 05:43:21 PM
I just went for a walk to get a Pepsi Max and a ceasar wrap (my fortnightly ritual while on Optifast) and I was getting irritated by something. I was unconsciously pulling my pants up. Usually my belt is so tight it will leave marks after a while, and I can only get it down to the biggest size, but I had to go into an alley and unbuckle to make it smaller.
I'm really happy right now.
I'm glad to hear that! But drop the Pepsi Max; not good for you.
No such thing as Cola that's good for you, but Max is a lesser of many evils xD
Not exactly. Aspartame isn't better than sugar.
you really are better to find another beverage to drink than soda. Try moving away from soda to drinking ice tea or ice coffee, if anything, they have redeeming value where soda has none.
Stick with filtered water. If you really need a flavour kick, make a smoothie or shake at home.
Quote from: AliceApocalypse on Feb 27, 2014, 07:39:59 PM
For those interested in the the low carb dieting, this article has some great basics on how Ketosis works in the body:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/180858.php (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/180858.php)
I've done the low carb diet and it works real fast without the sweat, but to keep it up can be dangerous to your health.
QuoteKetones consist of acetone, acetoacetate or beta-hydroxybutyrate. Very high ketone levels can be toxic, making the blood more acid, and may damage such organs as the kidneys and liver.
I've been on a low carb diet for 3 years now, my dad for 13, and I feel so much better for it.
Because of my CF I have to eat food that is high in fat and calories.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 04, 2014, 03:56:49 PM
Stick with filtered water. If you really need a flavour kick, make a smoothie or shake at home.
Try filtered water with lemon juice in morning. It might take some getting used to ;D
Quote from: Cal427eb on Mar 04, 2014, 07:31:02 PM
Because of my CF I have to eat food that is high in fat and calories.
Wat dat.
sorry mang.
I only have a mild case of it.
Quote from: AliceApocalypse on Mar 04, 2014, 07:32:44 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 04, 2014, 03:56:49 PM
Stick with filtered water. If you really need a flavour kick, make a smoothie or shake at home.
Try filtered water with lemon juice in morning. It might take some getting used to ;D
Yup, that's a great idea as well because it makes the water alkaline. It's great for cleaning out your system. I never remember to do this in the morning though when I'm filling up my bottles before work :P
So I have to take a week off from the gym this week because my schedule filled up with other stuff...FML. Those days when you miss a workout and you think, "What am I doing with my life"?
I do drink a lot of water, and I'm looking for ways to make it more helpful (I have no idea what alkaline means when it comes to drinking, but it's something to look into) but I think the occasional diet soft drink should be fine for now... I intend to quit it completely eventually.
When I was 18, I would buy 2 cartons of 30 cans of Pepsi Max or Coke Zero (I actually preferred the taste, real cola is too strong) and they would be gone within a week. That's how f**king bad I was. I think a 600ml of Max on my weekly shopping trip is an improvement over that.
Don't feel about your habits when you were 18. We were all stupid, I think, when it came to diet. Heck when I was a teen, all I ever wanted was burgers and fries, lol
Even going through college, bad eating habits are born (spent most days Panda Express... really bad ^_^;; ).
Oh gosh. The amount of burgers and street meat I went through is enough to make the mos dedicated athlete vomit, lol. I rarely brought my own lunches with me. I just couldn't be buggered to carry it around.
Does anyone know a good website to buy protein bars from? I want to add them to my diet/workout routine, but buying them one at a time from the store is far too expensive :/ They seem to range from 2-3 dollars on special, but are usually about 6 bucks each. That's AUD, so for comparison, a big box of Just Right cereal is around 7 dollars.
Edit: Amazon isn't an option.
Just buy another brand? I don't think it's imperative to buy their particular brand.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 05, 2014, 04:32:16 PM
Oh gosh. The amount of burgers and street meat I went through is enough to make the mos dedicated athlete vomit, lol. I rarely brought my own lunches with me. I just couldn't be buggered to carry it around.
in college, my mom helped me lose 30lbs when I broke my foot. After losing all the weight, I discovered that my work cafeteria sold chicken strips and fries. Gained back half the weight. My mom actually stepped in and said 'no more'
I'd like to get them by the case to save money.
I don't know about online but stores like Sam's Club and Costco let you buy stuff like that in bulk.
Quote from: Sabby on Mar 05, 2014, 05:32:40 PM
Does anyone know a good website to buy protein bars from? I want to add them to my diet/workout routine, but buying them one at a time from the store is far too expensive :/ They seem to range from 2-3 dollars on special, but are usually about 6 bucks each. That's AUD, so for comparison, a big box of Just Right cereal is around 7 dollars.
Edit: Amazon isn't an option.
Whichever one you do get, make sure it's low in sugar.
You Americans and your convenient shops D= the best I have around here is an IGA, which is a standard grocery store.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/can-stress-cause-weight-gain (http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/can-stress-cause-weight-gain)
I was discussing this with my trainer and nutritionist the other day and I never knew this was true! Apparently, if you're gaining weight, especially if it's only in one part of your body (stomach in men, thighs in women), it's likely because you're stressed out.
I've got a little collection of fat hanging on around the midsection but its because I haven't been able to get out and run and have a very inconsistent diet.
I have no doubt that stress affects people though.
Seems to make sense, stress throws everything else out of whack in our bodies, I can see where it may lead to weight gain. Especially where the hormones are concerned.
Does anyone know about Taurine?
https://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2013/jun2013_The-Forgotten-Longevity-Benefits-of-Taurine_01.htm (https://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2013/jun2013_The-Forgotten-Longevity-Benefits-of-Taurine_01.htm)
Sounds like another article trying to sell kool aid.
Omega 3 definitely seemed to give me a boost. I'm wondering if I should try this, too.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 22, 2014, 06:29:03 PM
I've got a little collection of fat hanging on around the midsection but its because I haven't been able to get out and run and have a very inconsistent diet.
I have no doubt that stress affects people though.
That too. I'm back to mass building so I've had to increase my calorie count which means eating everything I see, event the unhealthy stuff. Mind you, I'm not loading up on sugar or fats. But I don't avoid cheeseburgers like I should've been, so to speak.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Mar 22, 2014, 08:20:45 PM
Does anyone know about Taurine?
https://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2013/jun2013_The-Forgotten-Longevity-Benefits-of-Taurine_01.htm (https://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2013/jun2013_The-Forgotten-Longevity-Benefits-of-Taurine_01.htm)
Sounds like another article trying to sell kool aid.
Omega 3 definitely seemed to give me a boost. I'm wondering if I should try this, too.
Sounds like a pitch to sell their supplements. Better off getting your taurine from natural sources and enjoy your meat. Though I think I may want to start learning to like sushi, the fact that the Japanese do have raw meat in their diet could one of the many reasons they have a higher longevity rate.
I try to run two miles a day. But college is a real bitch about keeping me from doing that. >:(
I'm going to have to hit the running on overdrive. I've been using the cold as an excuse not to.
Same here, man.
The one time I did try to run when snow was on the ground I faceplanted and sprained my thumb.
I can only do 2 miles on the treadmill, and that's because it makes me do it. I'm still working up to it though :P maybe if I actually tried it outside.
Running on the beach was a good start for me. No car exhaust, and the sand feels much better than concrete. People underestimate how much fatigue pavement causes.
If you want to transition your run time from a treadmill to outside run with an incline of 1 on the treadmill. It helps simulate slight rises in the ground and wind that you won't get on the treadmill.
Ya have to watch your intake.
If your trying to put down weight.
Breads and meats have to be worked off almost as soon as you eat them.
Stick to veggies with salt and butter on them if possible.
Until you get you exercise up and running.
actually, meat takes a while to digest, that's why its preferred when it comes to weight loss, because you stay full longer. Bread on the other hand, being a carb, is something you need to burn off pretty quickly. It was meant to be turbo boost.
Veggies are meant to be a side dish to your meals, because they are so low in calories.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303678404579533760760481486?mod=trending_now_1 (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303678404579533760760481486?mod=trending_now_1)
http://lifehacker.com/why-theres-so-much-confusion-over-nutrition-and-fitness-1572870867/+charliejane (http://lifehacker.com/why-theres-so-much-confusion-over-nutrition-and-fitness-1572870867/+charliejane)
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on May 08, 2014, 02:12:49 AM
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303678404579533760760481486?mod=trending_now_1 (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303678404579533760760481486?mod=trending_now_1)
http://lifehacker.com/why-theres-so-much-confusion-over-nutrition-and-fitness-1572870867/+charliejane (http://lifehacker.com/why-theres-so-much-confusion-over-nutrition-and-fitness-1572870867/+charliejane)
Good articles, especially the second one. I think that one important thing to remember when it comes to dieting is that different people require different types of diet. What works for Xeno Killer 2179 isn't necessarily going to work for Topazora.
I have a poor diet. Trying to cut out the donuts and soda but to no avail and I eat way too many calories. Especially fat calories. Still I feel f**king fantastic. I lift weights and try to run at least several miles every few days. My health seems to be rather good. Especially since I cut out the diet soda and artificial sugar drinks. Which I'm now certain are poison if you drink more than one a day. :P
Yea... replaced it with regular soda and real sugar drinks. Still, fatty liver, gone; blood pressure, way down; lost a lot of weight to boot. :)
People should fire the artificial sugars first in my opinion. Especially the plant based ones such as splenda and stevia. Hard to believe that sucralose and aspartame are actually better but it seems to be true. Basic fact, we're omnivores, not vegetarians. :P
I don't believe aspartame and sucralose are better. What sources do you have on that?
After several months of just drinking water and the occasional glass of almond milk, I decided to buy some premium locally made cream soda made with pure cane sugar. It tasted like vanilla cotton candy, I think due to being made with cane sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup. Unlike most people I don't seem to experience sugar or caffeine highs, but I noticed that by drinking just one soda, I felt incredibly lethargic and began craving sugar again, for about a day. Guess even one is too much for me.
BUT the biggest health difference from my changing my diet has come from discovering I'm sensitive to both dairy and gluten.
I thought this whole gluten thing was just a fad like the grapefruit diet or not eating egg yolks, but I definitely feel better not eating it. I've known for years before discovering this that certain foods cause me discomfort, such as a strong sense of inflammation throughout my body. It feels a bit like having salt coursing through your veins. This happens most strongly with pizza. I assumed that this burning sensation was due to high sodium content at first, but later on I began thinking it was because of an imbalance of omega 6 to omega 3 (which also promotes inflammation). It's not just pizza though. Eventually I noticed that pasta, mostly the noodles, also trigger the inflammation with the added benefit of causing constipation and bloating for several days. The most telling of all, though, is a simple tuna fish sandwich. It was the bread. Simply having tuna and mayonnaise mixed together with nothing else was fine, but put it between two slices of whole wheat and there it was, the inflammation again. I ruled out the omega 3 thing by stopping the supplements to see if anything has changed (it didn't), and I tested my old sodium theory by eating a ton of pickles (I have a jar of small pickles, each containing 260mg of sodium), and again, nothing happened.
I would have NEVER discovered this going to a doctor. Between me, my mother, and my grandmother, we share a boatload of the symptoms of celiac disease. Apparently it's possible to have the condition without any symptoms, and a lot of people are diagnosed because a close relative was. I also read going gluten free can produce a negative screening for the disease, and having gluten just once or twice a month is enough to prevent healing the damage the condition has caused, so I'm going to see if I can get one or all of us screened for it.
I've had unexplained insomnia all my life, I had a period of weight loss and diarrhea in school, my gums have been swollen all my life despite excellent oral hygiene (was told it might be because I could be breathing through my mouth when sleeping, which I don't think is causing this), my eyes get insanely dry, and my mother and Gmother both have autoimmune disorders (which is more common in celiacs). Hormones can go out of whack and mental issues can surface due to celiac disease, in addition to hundreds of other symptoms, some minor and many not specific to this disease. Since stopping gluten I have far less anxiety and mood fluctuations, I sleep a little bit better (no computer use made the biggest difference in feeling sleepy), my tinnitus and popping ears improved dramatically (mother and grandmother both get ringing/poppy ears), and I have a new sense of clarity and confidence.
In addition, by eliminating dairy, my skin complexion on my back and shoulders has improved dramatically. Gluten can cause skin rashes but this was just plain old acne. This is another thing doctors don't know about because it doesn't work like this for everyone.
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This is partly a rant now, but....
Sleep apnea runs on the other side of the family (my grandfather was diagnosed with it despite not being overweight at all and very physically active) so I wanted to be screened for it a couple months back.
Turns out I couldn't simply request a sleep study; I had to get a referral, and when I tried to, my doctor went off into some tangent about me having an untreated mood disorder, called me mentally ill, then tried to prescribe me an anti psychotic to help me sleep (first off atypical antipsychotics have horrific side effects and in my opinion are inappropriate for mild insomnia due to the adverse effects on overall health, and second, I was told never to take atypical antipsychotics again by a psychiatrist because I had severe reactions to every one I tried in that class of drugs, and third, my GP didn't know this and I think he overstepped his bounds trying to prescribe psych medicine, especially because when when I turned him down, he set up an appointment with someone in mental health that specializes in prescribing the very same medication he just tried to prescribe me, which makes me wonder if the guy is an ego maniac or narcissist).
I managed to get the referral despite him not thinking I could have sleep apnea at all. One of the ways he tried to convince me not to have the sleep study done was, even if I did have it, he said he didn't think that I would wear a cpap machine and that it would be a waste, and so I think his argument was that the mere possibility of me not treating my sleep apnea was reason enough to not even give myself the chance to find out if I have it or not. The psychiatrist I saw as a result of the appointment he setup laughed at my doctor for trying to dissuade me from being tested and said it was actually a good idea because a lot of people have it and don't know it.
When I went in to get the machine for a home sleep study (the full study involves going to a motel and having electrodes hooked up to you and strangers observing your every movement via camera while in bed, whether awake or asleep), the group instructor said to us that obesity is only one factor in sleep apnea, and that the worst patient she ever had was a 102 pound Asian woman, and that a narrow airway can be genetic.
I got my results yesterday after waiting for six weeks to hear them (no idea why it takes so long). They said I stopped breathing several times while I was asleep, but not enough to be considered sleep apnea. They recommended more thorough testing though because this is still significant. I lost 20 pounds from when I wanted to be tested to when I actually ended up being tested, so I may have improved my breathing at night enough to go under their threshold.
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Cliffs:
-One sugary beverage a day is too much for me
-I discovered gluten was affecting my health, gluten sensitivity at the least, celiac disease at worse.
-Not eating gluten improved a number of small and big things.
-Going to try to get family screened for it, a lot of health problems that could suggest it.
-Eliminating dairy improved my skin complexion.
-My GP is an ass and listening to him (in the sense that older generations blindly follow whatever their doctor tells them) instead of being actively involved in discovering what works for me have two completely different life outcomes.
Use the damn internet and don't place all your faith in one human being. There's a reason we say they're practicing medicine.
In my case, by being in the mental health system, the assumption was understandably from the start that it was all mental, all in my head, and the very light screening that medical doctors do is far from adequate in catching everything that can present as psychological issues (vitamin, thyroid check, and urine test to see if you're lying about using drugs is all they typically do).
What's gluten
Quote from: Aspie on May 08, 2014, 08:59:01 PM
What's gluten
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktgNuQ61NHE# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktgNuQ61NHE#)
Quote from: Aspie on May 08, 2014, 08:59:01 PM
What's gluten
It's essentially just wheat but it is a processed protein.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 08, 2014, 01:53:00 PM
I don't believe aspartame and sucralose are better. What sources do you have on that?
There hasn't been much research done since they are so new and studies take decades to complete. However just look at the digestive track of fauna that process such sugars in nature. A human beings digestive system was never designed to process such misleading and gigantic molecules. Misleading by the fact that the human body can't tell the difference between real and artificial sugar, which causes it to process both in the same method. Which then leads to insulin insensitivity and massive water retention. Plus when I say better I really mean less worse. Its comparable to being an alcoholic. When I used to drink diet sodas I essentially had the same liver as a person that was a chronic alcoholic. When I stopped the problem went away. That's proof enough for me. :P
And I have to agree with Xeno Killer 2179 on almond milk and cane sugar. I cannot explain it but both are better. :P Pure cane sugar for one doesn't cause my teeth to tingle nor does it spike my blood sugar as high fructose corns syrup does. Plus I think most alternative milks, aside from soy milk is better than dairy. The whole it does a body good is a f**king dairy industry marketeer scheme.
I think the problem is not so much gluten but the fact that wheat gluten no longer has any nutrition due to the choice of quantity over quality in manufacturing. It basically just gets in the way of your bodies natural functions which causes insensitivity. In the same way that cellulose does. They claim it doesn't do anything but I mean come on, just take a bagel and kneed it in water, that's what's floating around inside of you when you eat the damn thing. Wood Pulp. :P
He's also right that you have to do your own research as most doctors frankly are not that smart. To be fair, health is just so damn complicated. Organic is "technically" better due to it's simple nature however it is in no way sustainable. However the best thing to do is to remember that most everything we grow up knowing about foods is either corporate bullshit or junk science. That goes for both processed and organic foods.
Physical activity will eliminate 90% of your health problems.
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 09, 2014, 12:50:59 AM
Physical activity will eliminate 90% of your health problems.
Yep.
Everybody is a lazy idiot nowadays.
Quote from: BANE on May 09, 2014, 12:51:32 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 09, 2014, 12:50:59 AM
Physical activity will eliminate 90% of your health problems.
Yep.
Everybody is a lazy idiot nowadays.
This is true. Still eliminating certain things will help you fix that laziness.
What I mean is that if you eat crap then, well... your going to feel crappy and that makes the thought of physical activity unpleasant.
I honestly don't know what gluten is beyond that it's a protein found in wheat, barley, and rye. Something to do with holding breads/dough together and the texture they have.
One issue is that gluten is often a part of foods that are already unhealthy, so quitting gluten means only eating better for a lot of people (who then claim it was the lack of gluten and not the lack of eating an entire pizza).
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Got my detailed sleep study results in mail:
Turns out I only snored a total of 36 seconds over 6 hours, but I had 18 breathing events, most of which I stopped breathing completely for 15 to 23 seconds. My AHI was half of what it needs to be to be considered mild sleep apnea, but they want me to come in because false negatives happen a lot with home studies.
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 09, 2014, 12:50:59 AM
Physical activity will eliminate 90% of your health problems.
But this is true for what percent of people? :P
If anything I think exercise just makes your body less susceptible to anything going wrong.
I'm 6'2", twenty years old, and I used to be 270 pounds.
I am now 220 pounds.
Portion control and exercise are what did it for me. I now engage in a regimen where I run two and a half miles Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, and engage in muscle training Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. I rest on Sundays. I've kept my weight around 220-225 for about a year, now.
But goddamn, is it difficult to resist Chic-Fil-A sandwiches... :P
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on May 09, 2014, 01:30:08 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 09, 2014, 12:50:59 AM
Physical activity will eliminate 90% of your health problems.
But this is true for what percent of people? :P
If anything I think exercise just makes your body less susceptible to anything going wrong.
That's a good thing. Anything to improve your longevity. Thing is, when people think of exercise, they think it's something complicated when it isn't. Staying active is very easy. All you need to do are little things for walks or making better dietary choices. It doesn't mean going to a gym and lifting the heaviest weight or running the quickest mile.
Haha we're the only species to ever have these problems.
Because we're actually stupid. :laugh:
When it comes to certain things, yes. It's one of our faults.
In other news, speaking of fitness, I worked out my lower back for the first time in who knows how long, yesterday. Normally I can deadlift 225 lbs. pretty easily but it was a struggle this time. I'm feeling it today :(
Quote from: Dovahkiin on May 09, 2014, 02:15:46 AM
I'm 6'2", twenty years old, and I used to be 270 pounds.
I am now 220 pounds.
Portion control and exercise are what did it for me. I now engage in a regimen where I run two and a half miles Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, and engage in muscle training Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. I rest on Sundays. I've kept my weight around 220-225 for about a year, now.
But goddamn, is it difficult to resist Chic-Fil-A sandwiches... :P
Pretty similar to what I do. Longer runs just because of Army stuff. Just got back into weightlifting though, trying to get my strength levels back up.
Quote from: Dovahkiin on May 09, 2014, 02:15:46 AM
I'm 6'2", twenty years old, and I used to be 270 pounds.
I am now 220 pounds.
Portion control and exercise are what did it for me. I now engage in a regimen where I run two and a half miles Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, and engage in muscle training Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. I rest on Sundays. I've kept my weight around 220-225 for about a year, now.
But goddamn, is it difficult to resist Chic-Fil-A sandwiches... :P
wow, congrats on the 50lb weight loss. I've only lost 43lbs, I'm still trying to lose the last 25. I know how difficult it can be to resist fast food, we have a Taco Bell within walking distance- way to easy to walk out of the house and take a little 15 minute trip to delicious faux mex food.
I'm starting to incorporate jogging in the 5 mile walks I do with my dog, just to help make the walks a little more challenging. I'm going through a difficult plateau, so hopefully the running will work. I've been running on the treadmill too long, I need to start doing street running, that'll be a better indicator of how I'm doing.
In the Army they have you do three kinds of runs. Typically a timed two mile run, a long distance run, and what they call 60/120's. Where you sprint as hard as you can for 60 seconds and either jog/walk for two minutes. You usually do those in like sets of 15-20.
If you do the sprints right on the 60/120's you shouldn't be able to breathe after the sprint. The 60/120's were the single things that helped me bust out of my aerobic plateau in basic because for whatever reason they helped me lengthen out my stride for much longer distances.
For weight purposes though I've found doing a slow long distance jog during the hottest part of the day will peel weight off me like nobody's business. They are uncomfortable because it's hot and much of the weight you lose is water weight but you'll still burn quite a bit of fat off.
I just don't recommend doing these right off the bat. Interval running like you are about to do is a good start. But you can't be afraid to push yourself a little harder each run. Your body will tell your mind to quit but if you don't listen you can go quite a bit further if one doesn't have an underlying health condition.
I'm36 years old, 5'11" and 220lbs... had gotten super lazy for a while and ballooned to 248 :'(. However since last august I decided to try and get fit. Started lifting again and for the first time ever, out side of basketball, started to run. Man I sucked, couldn't make a football field... half a football field at first. Now I can run 8 miles pretty easy. Not sure how fast though, never timed myself. However that is something I thought I would never be able to do. Of course learning how to breath was a big help. I don't go to the gym though, just use a bar and some dumbbells. I can dead lift 315 without any problems aside from being that is all the weights I have. :laugh:
Deadlifting 315 is no joke. Do you use a barbell or trap bar?
Deadlifting is my least favorite exercise even less so than the squats.
Running is almost entirely mental. You just can't think of how bad it sucks. For a timed run stride and breathing are very important.
I love squats! They're hard, but damn, they're so f**king rewarding. They work out the core, glutes, lower back...can't go wrong 8)
Produce the most testosterone of any exercise.
I just don't like the feeling of my legs being deadweight for the next few days.
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 09, 2014, 03:54:11 PM
Deadlifting is my least favorite exercise even less so than the squats.
Running is almost entirely mental. You just can't think of how bad it sucks. For a timed run stride and breathing are very important.
Never done dead lifts before but I love squats. I can do 275 with the bar and 400 on this squat machine thing.
Everybody can do more on the legpress for whatever reason probably because you don't have to balance the weight.
I used to be able to get 315 way back in my HS days. I remember the first time I got 275, I did one rep and thought I was hot shit, then I found out my core muscles weren't strong enough and I slowly leaned forward until the bar rolled over the top of my head.
I was so much bigger than I am now. :(
Well, for one thing, on the machine I don't have to actually pick up 400. There's no way I could do that.
Haha y'all have weak legs.
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 09, 2014, 04:05:17 PM
Produce the most testosterone of any exercise.
I just don't like the feeling of my legs being deadweight for the next few days.
That's why you stretch :P
Quote from: BANE on May 09, 2014, 04:17:18 PM
Haha y'all have weak legs.
It's easier for midgets to do more weight they have less area they have to move the weight.
Being serious though, shorter people are supposed to have stronger legs.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 09, 2014, 11:43:42 AM
Deadlifting 315 is no joke. Do you use a barbell or trap bar?
Barbell, with different grips. My weakness is grip strength though. That damn carpal tunnel. :P
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 09, 2014, 05:00:02 PM
Quote from: BANE on May 09, 2014, 04:17:18 PM
Haha y'all have weak legs.
It's easier for midgets to do more weight they have less area they have to move the weight.
Yup. Being 6'2" and squatting is a challenger. The heavier the weight, the less further I can go down. It sucks, but what can I do? I go as low as I reasonably can.
My squatting max is about 315.
My bench press max is around 245-255.
I don't really know where that puts me strength-wise. :laugh:
255 used to be my one rep maximum on my bench way back in the day. During Christmas break I put up 220.
I've never weighed over 190 so those numbers I thought were pretty impressive. When I put up 220 I still weighed 160 recovering from the great pop tart diet of 2013.
My squat stopped at 315 in the past because that was all I had at the crib.
I managed to hit 400 on my squats. That's what happens after you train steadily for 1.5 years. Benching though, I can only do about 140 at this time. I don't bench much, actually. I do more pressing with dumbbells.
Lots of people have went to the dumbbell press. That was like a cult movement when we deployed. All but a few people abandoned the bench in favor of the dumbbells.
I like the old school bench though. Nothing quite like loading up the bar with 45's and realize your doing work.
I think its easier for form that dumbbell press too.
Of course it is. It's one bar as opposed to fighting with two free weights, which especially becomes harder when you're maxing out. I'm always worried the blasted things are going to come crashing down on me >_<
That can happen anytime you max out on any workout, unless you are using a machine. And I've seen a dude straight ejected out of a legpress machine before for doing do much weight. I lol'd.
220 bench press for 12 reps. Haven't done squats for yonks. Too much hard work! Still do deadlifts though.
Don't know why y'all bother with the one rep maxes? There's no benefit to doing them, it's just begging for an injury. Not even powerlifters do one maxes while training.
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 09, 2014, 08:53:56 PM
Barbell, with different grips. My weakness is grip strength though. That damn carpal tunnel. :P
Are you using lifting straps? They make a major difference to grip endurance.
I just lift downed trees in the forest.
Waving to passersby on the trail as I squat a 30 foot oak.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 10, 2014, 01:09:55 PMDon't know why y'all bother with the one rep maxes? There's no benefit to doing them, it's just begging for an injury. Not even powerlifters do one maxes while training.
I don't. If I'm doing bodybuilding routines, I go for maximum weight, minimal reps.
Depends on what your goals are. If you want power and strength then go for 4-6 reps on compound exercises and 6-8 reps on isolation exercises. If you want muscle mass and definition go for 8-12 reps on compound and around 10-15 reps on isolation.
The best rep range also depends on the individual's muscle composition. If you have a lot of slow-twitch fibers go with the high reps. Lots of fast-twitch go low rep.
I'm 6' 5" and I've been sitting between 245 and 250. I've been working out since I graduated high school in 2010 and was 265 at my heaviest. The lowest I've been since high school was 224 and then I started doing weights more. 300lbs is my max on the bench and I can do it 10 to 15 times per set which is nice. The unfortunate thing is though that I have it instilled in my head that high numbers on the scale = fat, and I've been told muscle is heavier than fat.
I do an hour of cardio 3 to 5 times a week and I do my weight routine 3 times a week. I'm trying to get to 230/235, but I don't think I'm gonna be able to pull it off.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/archevore/201103/dietary-manifesto-paleo-20 (http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/archevore/201103/dietary-manifesto-paleo-20)
QuoteSome diseases that are very common today, which we call Diseases of Civilization or DOCs, do not occur with any frequency in native or hunter-gatherer populations until western foods are introduced.
QuoteWheat
Wheat contains starch, which is fine, but along with starch there is gluten, a complex of proteins that has been linked to a variety of diseases, and wheat germ agglutinin, a lectin antinutrient designed to protect the plant seed from consumption. Celiac disease, obesity, diabetes and mental illness have all been linked to wheat consumption.
The problem in wheat is proteins, not the carbohydrate. White flour is dense with these problematic proteins and antinutrients. Wheat causes problems even in popultations who've been eating it for thousands of years.
Stick with potatoes, sweet potatoes or root veggies for your starch, and stop eating bread, cookies, cakes and other baked goods.
Excess Fructose
Fructose is a carbohydrate, but metabolically it is quite different from the glucose that comes from starch. In small amounts or in moderate amounts in real food, fructose is not a problem, but the ubiquity of fructose in the modern diet creates obesity, insulin resistance, fatty liver disease, and abnormal bacterial growth in the gut with consequent inflammation.
Fructose is easily minimized by simply refusing to eat processed food that comes in a box (especially "low fat" foods), and by refusing to drink caloric drinks like soda pop and fruit juices and sports drinks.
Wheat flour and fructose are the two NADs in most of the historically documented nutritional transitions.
Excess Linoleic acid
Linoleic acid is an omega 6 fatty acid, a polyunsaturated fat or PUFA. Along with n-3, the other type of PUFA, it is technically an essential fatty acid, but the actual requirement is so small it might be better considered a micronutrient. A hunter-gatherer or paleolithic human might have had a total PUFA intake of 3% of calories. Modern north americans have a PUFA intake of around 15%, most of it due to n-6. The problem with this is twofold:
1) As n-3 and n-6 precursors compete for the same enzyme in the eicosanoid pathway, the excess of n-6 in the diet means that n-3 is outcompeted at the enzyme level. The result is a preponderance of inflammatory signalling molecules. Increased cancer and inflammation - both too little and not enough immune activity - are both likely related to this.
2) Many are aware that 6:3 ratio of fatty acids is important, so they try to compensate by taking fish oil to balance the ratio. This doesn't really work to well - you can't realistically eat that much fish, and if you take fish oil supplements, you exacerbate the second, more important problem. Your total PUFA intake is now evan higher and total PUFA, especially including the added highly unstable n-3, leads to oxidative damage to your cells. Your arteries, liver and other organs are not happy. Your insulin resistance and other metabolic control systems may become disturbed.
The way to correct the modern excess of n-6 linoleic acid is to avoid the modern sources of it. Stop eating all temperate vegetable oils and veggie oil fried food- cooking and frying oils like corn, soy, canola, flax, all of it. And go easy on the nuts and factory chicken. These are big sources of n-6, especially the nuts and nut oils.
QuoteI started reading and thinking about nutrition over 3 ½ years ago and started blogging almost 2 years ago. What I have seen in the past few years is that there are an increasing number of other writers who also emphasize these same Neolithic Agents.
Critically, these other writers also:
1) Reject the alternative hypothesis of saturated fat or cholesterol as a Neolithic agent - the so-called diet/heart hypothesis
2) Believe that obtaining a substantial fraction of nutrition from animal sources is necessary for health
3) Discount the absolute importance of macronutrient ratios in the nutritional transition.
4) Believe that a whole foods diet that includes adequate micronutrients is the best way to eat healthy.
5) Believe that tubers, root vegetables and other sources of starch can be healthy for normal people, but that most grains are a suboptimal source of nutrition in other than small amounts.
More on polyunsaturated fat (PUFA, omega 6 and 3)
http://paleoleap.com/many-dangers-of-excess-pufa-consumption/ (http://paleoleap.com/many-dangers-of-excess-pufa-consumption/)
Also neat article on something called "leaky gut:
http://paleoleap.com/dealing-with-autoimmune-diseases-and-digestive-problems/ (http://paleoleap.com/dealing-with-autoimmune-diseases-and-digestive-problems/)
QuoteLeaky gut is a condition where your intestines become permeable and larger particles are able to enter the bloodstream. Our body then sees that those particles are foreign and attacks them while attacking regular healthy cells at the same time and compromising the immune system. This leaky gut situation also causes digestive and intestinal problems. Candida overgrowth, Celiac disease, Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS), Inflammable bowel disease (IBS), allergies, malabsorption and loads of other autoimmune diseases are all associated to a leaky gut.
QuoteSome of the worst offenders that contribute to the development of a leaky gut in the first place are gluten and grains in general, NSAIDs (Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs: advils, motrin, ibuprofen, ...), dairy products and plain general inflammation, chronic stress and lack of sleep. Never consume grains, dairy, vegetable oils, legumes, sugar, yeast or NSAIDs when trying to heal your gut.
I took Tylenol pm daily for years to help with sleep problems on my doctor's recommendation, now I'm wondering if that screwed me somehow. I always worried taking it long term would have some consequence(s). Hooray for more bad advice from people that took an oath to do no harm.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 10, 2014, 05:30:31 PM
Depends on what your goals are. If you want power and strength then go for 4-6 reps on compound exercises and 6-8 reps on isolation exercises. If you want muscle mass and definition go for 8-12 reps on compound and around 10-15 reps on isolation.
The best rep range also depends on the individual's muscle composition. If you have a lot of slow-twitch fibers go with the high reps. Lots of fast-twitch go low rep.
My trainer switches it around, depending on what we've worked on previously. I'm in weight gain and mass building mode right now so we usually do the latter exercises but once in a blue moon, we do the former as well.
People do 1RM to see where you actually are. If you do 315 lbs 12 times your actual bench is not 315. 1RM would be much much higher.
Maybe its a football thing but we were always trying to find our 1RM.
I've been fortunate enough to never be hurt doing 1RM. I think anytime you start loading 45s on the bar there is a potential for injury. Its not natural for human beings to do anything with their own bodyweight.
What's 1RM?
one rep maximum
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 11, 2014, 04:43:28 AM
People do 1RM to see where you actually are. If you do 315 lbs 12 times your actual bench is not 315. 1RM would be much much higher.
Maybe its a football thing but we were always trying to find our 1RM.
I've been fortunate enough to never be hurt doing 1RM. I think anytime you start loading 45s on the bar there is a potential for injury. Its not natural for human beings to do anything with their own bodyweight.
I did that in Fitness in high school as a class scoreboard thing, started out with 157lbs, finished the semester with 205lbs. After a summer and 1 semester later I started with like 180-190lbs (estimate) and finished the semester with over 245lbs.
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 11, 2014, 12:35:12 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on May 10, 2014, 05:30:31 PM
Depends on what your goals are. If you want power and strength then go for 4-6 reps on compound exercises and 6-8 reps on isolation exercises. If you want muscle mass and definition go for 8-12 reps on compound and around 10-15 reps on isolation.
The best rep range also depends on the individual's muscle composition. If you have a lot of slow-twitch fibers go with the high reps. Lots of fast-twitch go low rep.
My trainer switches it around, depending on what we've worked on previously. I'm in weight gain and mass building mode right now so we usually do the latter exercises but once in a blue moon, we do the former as well.
That's probably the best option. Give's you the best of both worlds and helps "shock" your muscles into new growth.
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 11, 2014, 04:43:28 AM
People do 1RM to see where you actually are. If you do 315 lbs 12 times your actual bench is not 315. 1RM would be much much higher.
Maybe its a football thing but we were always trying to find our 1RM.
I've been fortunate enough to never be hurt doing 1RM. I think anytime you start loading 45s on the bar there is a potential for injury. Its not natural for human beings to do anything with their own bodyweight.
Yeah, it's probably a high-school/college football jock thing. 1RM's are only good for inflating ego's. Competitive powerlifters only do 1RM's at meets. And that's after several weeks of pyramidal build-up training preparing their muscles & tendons for 1RM workloads. Pro-bodybuilders and other strength athletes typically use a mathematical formula (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-repetition_maximum) to safely determine their 1RM.
Safety during a 1RM is why God invented spotters.
I've only done the bench press once in my entire life back in 10th grade. It was only 5 reps of 135 and I weighed 130. :laugh:
If you can start doing more than you weight then you have the capacity to be pretty beastly on the bench.
I don't know, I think I would be too self conscious at the gym while I'm using relatively light weight compared to most people that use the bench press.
Don't worry about that. Everyone has to start somewhere so don't be concerned about how you measure up to others.
Quote from: Cal427eb on May 11, 2014, 04:41:40 PM
I don't know, I think I would be too self conscious at the gym while I'm using relatively light weight compared to most people that use the bench press.
All the gym bunnies won't be eyeballin' you to see how much you can bench press just sayin' ;D
Does nobody listen to me?
Lift. Downed. Trees. In. The. Woods.
Problems solved.
Quote from: Cvalda on May 11, 2014, 04:48:42 PM
Quote from: Cal427eb on May 11, 2014, 04:41:40 PM
I don't know, I think I would be too self conscious at the gym while I'm using relatively light weight compared to most people that use the bench press.
All the gym bunnies won't be eyeballin' you to see how much you can bench press just sayin' ;D
do you even lift
Your competition is with yourself not anybody else.
Most big dudes are more than happy to offer help anyways because they want everybody to be big.
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 11, 2014, 04:21:13 PM
Safety during a 1RM is why God invented spotters.
Indeed, spotters are great for getting the bar off your chest after you've torn a pec off the bone! Also great for getting you to the hospital afterwards. :P
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 11, 2014, 04:58:28 PM
Your competition is with yourself not anybody else.
Most big dudes are more than happy to offer help anyways because they want everybody to be big.
Yup. One of the biggest myths I find surrounding gym rats is that they're pretentious douchebags. Some can be but if you just ask them for help, 9 times out of 10, they're more than happy to oblige.
Yeah, I know it's all in my head but still.
Do you workout with music? It can really help with focus.
Yeah, most of the time. I don't have any earbuds though, only headphones.
I never could, mostly because I just imagine my headphones and ear-buds getting drenched in sweat :P
I find that doesn't happen, oddly enough. Earbuds help, but I would also recommend using earphones that clip or fit over the ear itself so they stay in place, like this:
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Quote from: DoomRulz on May 12, 2014, 03:17:38 AM
I find that doesn't happen, oddly enough. Earbuds help, but I would also recommend using earphones that clip or fit over the ear itself so they stay in place, like this:
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Yeah, I need something like that. I f**king hate this new design for earbuds that everybody is using.
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This shit does not stay in your ear.
When I run I like to be pissed off so I don't listen to music.
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 12, 2014, 04:19:12 AM
When I run I like to be pissed off so I don't listen to music.
Listen to this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3472Q6kvg0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3472Q6kvg0#ws)
It's not my thing. I have to hear all the past voices in my head telling me I can't do something which pisses me off and makes me run harder/faster.
To be honest, I get tired after running for only 3 minutes. I don't even know how I keep running.
Me too. But everytime I use past things that have happened in my life and failures as motivation to push myself. For whatever reason I'm faster with no headphones. I think 90% of people are opposite.
I just get bored and tired. I don't really have any motivation while I'm running. My mind's blank and I'm only thinking about distance. I set a really high goal that I don't think I can reach that way I'm able to go farther than I normally would and end up going the whole way.
If I'm running distance there comes a certain point where my body is on autopilot. I ran ten miles once in Africa before I really realized I had done it. I just happened to look down at the GPS function on my watch and it read like 10.05. So I figured I better stop.
Short runs though I use the interior motivation to push myself. I've gotten six minute miles on my PT test on the first mile before because I had psyched myself up so bad. This usually catches up with me on the second mile though when I've fatigued myself too early and usually finish in the 14:00 to 15:00 range.
The only reason I run is to improve my good cholesterol since cardiovascular exercise seems to be the only thing that gets results. The weight loss and extra energy are just added benefits. :laugh: At first I really over did it, to the point of burn out. Now I just do runs of around 20-30 minutes. If I all I can get in is a mile and a half jog then I'm happy. Once a week or so I'll do something much longer. However playing basketball seems to work just as good. I prefer to listen to music and do not like treadmills. I also prefer to run at late night hours.
I usually mix it up. Treadmills are good for learning breathing techniques I have found but not so good for learning or maintaining your stride.
Now there is all kinds of road work going on around my apartment so I have to use the treadmill.
I have nothing against treadmills... they're great when watching tv but I just like running outside. In nature, around all of the damn road construction and hazards.... f**k maybe I should learn to love them on second thought. :laugh: However no room to put one in and the gym can be all sweaty smelling.
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 12, 2014, 04:30:15 AM
Me too. But everytime I use past things that have happened in my life and failures as motivation to push myself. For whatever reason I'm faster with no headphones. I think 90% of people are opposite.
Hey, if it helps. I visualize the body I want and that keeps me going. I'm an ectomorph so putting on mass isn't the easiest thing for me, but I see Chris Evans as Captain America or Henry Cavill as Superman in my head and it motivates me.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/01/21/grains-causing-gut-leaks.aspx (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/01/21/grains-causing-gut-leaks.aspx)
Finally played some basketball again. If I can do that, run a mile every other day, and do my sit-ups and pushups consistently, my Greek god body will be back soon.
Sit-ups... ewww I hate doing those. But then again that's where all the fat goes. :-\
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on May 12, 2014, 07:33:56 PM
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/01/21/grains-causing-gut-leaks.aspx (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/01/21/grains-causing-gut-leaks.aspx)
The funny thing is that most people think we do digest grains, however fiber goes in and goes right out. It's good though because it acts like sandpaper and scraps that gut clean. Plus all the fatty bad for you crap like to stick to it and the fiber ushers it out. So it is good to eat whole grain but there isn't any nutritional benefit to it.
Don't ignore your core, man!
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on May 12, 2014, 07:33:56 PM
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/01/21/grains-causing-gut-leaks.aspx (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/01/21/grains-causing-gut-leaks.aspx)
LOL, this horse shit. Mercola, what a quack. "Leaky gut" is a fake bullshit diagnosis to scam gullible people into paying for expensive "holistic" junk. I used to work for a company that marketed this shit, and it is all fake as hell.
tl;dr
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 12, 2014, 09:41:49 PM
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on May 12, 2014, 07:33:56 PM
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/01/21/grains-causing-gut-leaks.aspx (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/01/21/grains-causing-gut-leaks.aspx)
The funny thing is that most people think we do digest grains, however fiber goes in and goes right out. It's good though because it acts like sandpaper and scraps that gut clean. Plus all the fatty bad for you crap like to stick to it and the fiber ushers it out. So it is good to eat whole grain but there isn't any nutritional benefit to it.
Read up on antinutrients. Gunky digested food in your body shouldn't rely on something we never evolved to eat to flush it out (and if you do, stop eating whatever's making you bloated and constipated). Grains offer nothing uniquely beneficial or important that can't be found in other sources.
Quote from: Cal427eb on May 12, 2014, 10:12:43 PM
tl;dr
Summary:
-We never evolved to eat grains
-They can cause digestive issues and inflammation in varying levels (depending on your genes and other factors).
-Inflammation in the intestines can prevent your body from filtering out particles from what you consume like it normally would
-These particles get in your bloodstream
-Your body will attack these these particles, creating immune and even autoimmune responses
-This opens the door to disease and having every aspect of your health affected.
-The grains we have now are very different and even less tolerable than what we had less than a century ago.
Quote from: Cvalda on May 12, 2014, 10:11:18 PM
LOL, this horse shit. Mercola, what a quack. "Leaky gut" is a fake bullshit diagnosis to scam gullible people into paying for expensive "holistic" junk. I used to work for a company that marketed this shit, and it is all fake as hell.
The truth is rarely represented in pure form. You seem to be all or nothing. Good luck with that.
I'm with Cvalda on this one.
Sounds like bullshit, on par with vaccinations giving children autism.
Somewhere there is a report that says whatever your eating will kill you. So I say f**k it and just eat what you want. You are going to die anyways.
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 13, 2014, 12:13:04 AM
Somewhere there is a report that says whatever your eating will kill you. So I say f**k it and just eat what you want. You are going to die anyways.
Within reason.
Quote from: Crazy Rich on May 13, 2014, 12:12:07 AM
I'm with Cvalda on this one.
Sounds like bullshit, on par with vaccinations giving children autism.
Has about as much merit as "drinking milk leeches calcium from your bones" and other crap. There's a whole industry devoted to this kind of phony health garbage.
I remember Nashville news telling me that I would get cancer from drinking Milk. So I said f**k you and turned off the television.
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 12, 2014, 07:34:22 AM
I have nothing against treadmills... they're great when watching tv but I just like running outside.
^^
Spoiler
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Quote from: Cvalda on May 13, 2014, 12:17:20 AM
Has about as much merit as "drinking milk leeches calcium from your bones" and other crap. There's a whole industry devoted to this kind of phony health garbage.
Actually that one I believe to be true. The calcium anion is essentially attached to a huge fatty molecule and once it is released guess what is the only thing that fits back in, a calcium cation. So yea a calcium atom goes in, and one is taken from "somewhere" as it goes back out. In any case I'm not drinking cows milk since there are other choices. I also don't drink soy milk because there is just too much estrogen in that.
Guys, the existence of intestinal permeability isn't even up for debate.
Some of the articles I post come off a bit strong but still have plenty of good info to cherry pick. I'm starting to think I'm talking to a bunch of wheat stalks.
Quote from: Eva on May 13, 2014, 12:35:23 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 12, 2014, 07:34:22 AM
I have nothing against treadmills... they're great when watching tv but I just like running outside.
^^
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I normally run outside just because it isn't as boring as running on the hamster wheel. There is just no place to run outside unless I want to drive to another part of town. Lexington, KY is tearing up their sidewalks as some part of renovation project and running on the streets in Lexington is begging to be run over.
I'd sooner avoid dairy altogether as it doesn't really do much for the body anyway past a certain age. I stick to almond milk.
We literally just...
Yea we just did that one. :laugh:
I must admit almond milk is a fantastic substitute to dairy milk. Albeit a tad on the super sweet side. Plus it lacks all of those man made hormones found in cow milk. There is no way that stuff is good for your body.
Quote from: Cal427eb on May 13, 2014, 11:22:23 AM
We literally just...
Sorry bout that, didn't see it :P
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 13, 2014, 12:13:04 AM
Somewhere there is a report that says whatever your eating will kill you. So I say f**k it and just eat what you want. You are going to die anyways.
I'm tempted to quote Alien3 here.
After my workout last night, one of the trainers looked at me and said I've got a 300 thing going on. Me? Beginning to look like a Spartan warrior? Yeah, I can dig it 8)
It's been hard leaning out. I'm training minimum three hours a week now and cutting back on my carbs. My trainer wants me to increase my fat intake to compensate but sticking to healthy fats ain't easy.
I haven't been doing shit.
21 days in the desert in full body armor is going to wick away any gains I might have had so I'm just going to restart everything but cardio then. Actually taking kineasology classes now and half are service classes so I'll be weight lifting and preparing or a half marathon throughout the semester.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 31, 2014, 11:24:43 AM
After my workout last night, one of the trainers looked at me and said I've got a 300 thing going on.
Your abs are fake CGI?
No him and his trainer have been there so long they're considering bumming like the greeks
Gotta get his money's worth somehow.
Somebody told me they overheard his trainer say "Unfortunately that's one small muscle we can't build up" :-\
Quote from: Kimarhi on Aug 01, 2014, 03:01:51 AM
I haven't been doing shit.
21 days in the desert in full body armor is going to wick away any gains I might have had so I'm just going to restart everything but cardio then. Actually taking kineasology classes now and half are service classes so I'll be weight lifting and preparing or a half marathon throughout the semester.
How long does it take to prep for a half marathon anyway?
Quote from: Cvalda on Aug 01, 2014, 03:47:07 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 31, 2014, 11:24:43 AM
After my workout last night, one of the trainers looked at me and said I've got a 300 thing going on.
Your abs are fake CGI?
He wasn't talking about my abs.
Quote from: BANE on Aug 01, 2014, 03:59:16 AM
No him and his trainer have been there so long they're considering bumming like the greeks
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 01, 2014, 11:26:14 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Aug 01, 2014, 03:47:07 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jul 31, 2014, 11:24:43 AM
After my workout last night, one of the trainers looked at me and said I've got a 300 thing going on.
Your abs are fake CGI?
He wasn't talking about my abs.
Bane's theory confirmed? :laugh:
That's for me to know and for you to find out.
HA! I've always wanted to say that...
so is this an actual thread for fitness or just another venue for all the snarky people? Man, I put up a photo of myself for my Avi and everyone and their mother turned into super dicks. It'd be cool to be able to talk about serious fitness issues here.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Mr. Sin, serious question here. Have you ever had any issues with PED's? My trainer recently turned me on to some nigh undetectable anabolics and everything was going great the first two months. Great gain, amazing toning, just beasting up the reps and weights. Then all of a sudden one of my balls re-ascended.
Do you know if it'll come back if I stop or is he gone for good? :(
Serious answer please.
You should consult with a doctor and tell your trainer to go f**k himself. Anyone who puts you on steroids is a fraud.
Nevermind a doctor, he's going to have to see a priest.
I heard they're looking for male sopranos for the church choir.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Aug 10, 2014, 03:46:41 PM
You should consult with a doctor and tell your trainer to go f**k himself. Anyone who puts you on steroids is a fraud.
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Was it sarcasm? I can't usually tell online :P
this is a good thread, kinda don't want to let it die. Anyway, making headway at the gym :D doing 4 miles in under 40 minutes, that's pretty good for me, couple months, only doing like 20 miles in 20 minutes. Now 4 miles in like around 38 minutes. And only 10lbs from my goal weight 8)
Quote from: Sagittarius on Dec 07, 2014, 12:04:00 AM
this is a good thread, kinda don't want to let it die. Anyway, making headway at the gym :D doing 4 miles in under 40 minutes, that's pretty good for me, couple months, only doing like 20 miles in 20 minutes. Now 4 miles in like around 38 minutes. And only 10lbs from my goal weight 8)
???
Are you talking about distance running?
If so anyone want any tips I might be able to help as an ex-distance road runner/club runner (still running for fitness but not racing anymore).
Just whatever helps me lose weight and gets me in shape. I've noticed when I run faster or cycle faster on the elliptical, it helps with my weight loss, especially when I switch between walking and sprinting at around 6.5-7 miles an hour. This is on a treadmill, not a whole lot of great places around here to do street running, so I just go to the gym.
But hey, whatever tips you got as a long distance runner would be helpful. Building up endurance is a good plus. Also, if you have any tips with dealing shin splints? I've went back to running every other day and using the elliptical if I'm not comfortable on the treadmill.
i like a fast pace walk up a steep hill for 30 to 45minutes at random intensity for cardiovascular exercise followed by precore. core, pecks and so forth. i got serious about health and fitness after a upsetting diagnoses of lyme disease . any physical visual change is secondary to feeling healthier . 3 years now. i found trainers to only be necessary for so long and i worked a routine that is at my own pace that works for me.
lmao
:D :o funny shit
Quote from: BANE on Aug 09, 2014, 10:29:40 PM
Mr. Sin, serious question here. Have you ever had any issues with PED's? My trainer recently turned me on to some nigh undetectable anabolics and everything was going great the first two months. Great gain, amazing toning, just beasting up the reps and weights. Then all of a sudden one of my balls re-ascended.
Do you know if it'll come back if I stop or is he gone for good? :(
Serious answer please.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/12/141216212047.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/12/141216212047.htm)
QuoteDespite a worldwide obsession with diets and fitness regimes, many health professionals cannot correctly answer the question of where body fat goes when people lose weight, a UNSW Australia study shows.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Dec 18, 2014, 02:21:10 PM
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/12/141216212047.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/12/141216212047.htm)
QuoteDespite a worldwide obsession with diets and fitness regimes, many health professionals cannot correctly answer the question of where body fat goes when people lose weight, a UNSW Australia study shows.
that's interesting, I've always kinda figured it was just urinated or sweated out of the body. Well, either way, what matters is making it exit the body.
Quote from: Sagittarius on Dec 07, 2014, 05:57:48 AM
Just whatever helps me lose weight and gets me in shape. I've noticed when I run faster or cycle faster on the elliptical, it helps with my weight loss, especially when I switch between walking and sprinting at around 6.5-7 miles an hour. This is on a treadmill, not a whole lot of great places around here to do street running, so I just go to the gym.
But hey, whatever tips you got as a long distance runner would be helpful. Building up endurance is a good plus. Also, if you have any tips with dealing shin splints? I've went back to running every other day and using the elliptical if I'm not comfortable on the treadmill.
Hmmm the dreaded shin splints huh that's tricky. I used to get that problem and to be honest I think it was over exercising, plus road running doesn't help. The only thing you can do is stop whatever you're doing and rest it off, carrying on will obviously make it worse.
I sometimes could run it off but that's a risky thing to do admittedly, depends how strong your legs are. Honesty you just gotta build your legs over time with exercise (and I mean running, cycling or swimming), eventually it should go but that's not guaranteed.
http://www.poliquingroup.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/1007/Three_Superb_Sprint_Interval_Workouts_To_Achieve_Your_Best_Body.aspx (http://www.poliquingroup.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/1007/Three_Superb_Sprint_Interval_Workouts_To_Achieve_Your_Best_Body.aspx)
QuoteResearchers from Canada compared the effect of a 3-day-a-week, 6-week interval running program with an endurance protocol on body composition and time trail performance in young trainees. The interval protocol was six 30-second all-out sprints with 4 minutes rest. The endurance protocol was 30 to 60 minutes of running at 65 percent of maximal.
Results showed the following better results from the sprint program:
• The sprint group lost an impressive 12.4 percent body fat and 2 kg of fat mass. The endurance group lost 5.8 percent body fat and about half a kilo of fat. Both groups increased muscle mass by a small 1 percent.
• The sprint group spent a total of .75 of an hour actually sprinting compared to the endurance group that spent a whopping 13.5 hours running.
• Both groups improved by 5 percent on a 2,000-meter time trial.
Here you see that you can lose more fat and maintain muscle in MUCH less training time by doing sprints. You will improve conditioning, get faster, and be able to sustain a higher work rate for longer, as seen by the better performance on the middle-distance time trial.
Check out mike geary and joel marion.
I am not advertising. Just been reading their emails for a long time.
Hope it will help someone
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Mar 23, 2015, 07:14:38 PM
http://www.poliquingroup.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/1007/Three_Superb_Sprint_Interval_Workouts_To_Achieve_Your_Best_Body.aspx (http://www.poliquingroup.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/1007/Three_Superb_Sprint_Interval_Workouts_To_Achieve_Your_Best_Body.aspx)
QuoteResearchers from Canada compared the effect of a 3-day-a-week, 6-week interval running program with an endurance protocol on body composition and time trail performance in young trainees. The interval protocol was six 30-second all-out sprints with 4 minutes rest. The endurance protocol was 30 to 60 minutes of running at 65 percent of maximal.
Results showed the following better results from the sprint program:
• The sprint group lost an impressive 12.4 percent body fat and 2 kg of fat mass. The endurance group lost 5.8 percent body fat and about half a kilo of fat. Both groups increased muscle mass by a small 1 percent.
• The sprint group spent a total of .75 of an hour actually sprinting compared to the endurance group that spent a whopping 13.5 hours running.
• Both groups improved by 5 percent on a 2,000-meter time trial.
Here you see that you can lose more fat and maintain muscle in MUCH less training time by doing sprints. You will improve conditioning, get faster, and be able to sustain a higher work rate for longer, as seen by the better performance on the middle-distance time trial.
Interesting. I wonder what my trainer's thoughts on this would be. I run, but don't sprint that much.
I've noticed that even a 10 second full on sprint gives more of an endorphin release than a brisk 5 mile walk.
If you want to feel revitalized then there is no substitute for the dead lift. There is no better way to increase testosterone without replacement therapy. There's just something about lifting a heavy weight off of the floor. Plus it is as close to a full body workout you can get with one exercise. And I mean the dead lift, not the romaine dead lift or sumo dead lift.
As far as running is concerned, running is hard on the knees and joints. I started about a year and a half ago and have gotten much... way f**king much better than when I started but I just don't like it. Bottom of the feet hurt, left knee was starting to hurt, it's boring. I've cut back a lot. It is a good way to burn calories and raise endurance but I decided to go back to cycling. Low impact and I rather do an hour of that vs 20 minutes of running.
Fat is just stored calories and calories come in all forms, from fat to sugars. I think most spent matter from calorie absorption is filtered out through the urine via the kidneys and liver. I mean that is what they do, right? Best way to burn fat is to build muscle and eat less calories.
I prefer the squat, plus it's a natural movement.
Deadlift takes a bit of practice to get the motion right, otherwise even a little bit of weight can injure the back.
of course, there's always some who do both. :P
Resting 600lbs on the top of my shoulders/traps never seemed like a good idea. So I tend to do lunges or one leg squats with less than half the weight. I've never had a problem with dead lifting though. To me it's the safest of the big four. Bench, Squat, Shoulder Press and Dead Lift. Olympic lifts are good too but many people ignore them.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Mar 24, 2015, 12:06:05 AM
I prefer the squat, plus it's a natural movement.
Deadlift takes a bit of practice to get the motion right, otherwise even a little bit of weight can injure the back.
of course, there's always some who do both. :P
I prefer squats because it's a full body workout. You workout the core and legs in one go. Deadlifts will lead to tremendous strength gains if they're done properly but it takes a mental toll after awhile, especially if you're lifting heavy. They are safer than squats though, I'll give them that much credit.
Running, swimming or cycling, all you need for all round good fitness.
At the moment I'm pausing from bodybuilding (beginner), because of a shoulder injury. Other than that I got a martial arts background (MMA, boxing, thaiboxing), not practicing at the moment.
The one thing that we all probably need to do is eat healthier or is that just me? :P
Quote from: whiterabbit on Mar 24, 2015, 08:04:54 PM
The one thing that we all probably need to do is eat healthier or is that just me? :P
Me too :D
Quote from: whiterabbit on Mar 24, 2015, 08:04:54 PM
The one thing that we all probably need to do is eat healthier or is that just me? :P
Healthy is important, I write as I munch down on Frosted Flakes and will probably have Kraft mac and cheese for dinner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-jy3OtZAss (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-jy3OtZAss)
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Vitamin D also gives a noticeable boost in serotonin and testosterone.
I actually don't eat that much at all. Some days I'll go with nothing more than half a bag of cereal and some water.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Mar 24, 2015, 08:04:54 PM
The one thing that we all probably need to do is eat healthier or is that just me? :P
If you run/swim/cycle regularly you can virtually eat what you want hehe ;)
Quote from: Hubbs on Mar 25, 2015, 05:20:44 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Mar 24, 2015, 08:04:54 PM
The one thing that we all probably need to do is eat healthier or is that just me? :P
If you run/swim/cycle regularly you can virtually eat what you want hehe ;)
Maybe to stay slim, but not to stay healthy.
Quote from: Born Of Cold Light on Mar 24, 2015, 11:25:47 PM
I actually don't eat that much at all. Some days I'll go with nothing more than half a bag of cereal and some water.
That's not a good thing. You need to eat balanced meals to ensure your body gets all the nutrients it needs.
Quote from: vikingr on Mar 25, 2015, 09:49:24 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Mar 25, 2015, 05:20:44 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Mar 24, 2015, 08:04:54 PM
The one thing that we all probably need to do is eat healthier or is that just me? :P
If you run/swim/cycle regularly you can virtually eat what you want hehe ;)
Maybe to stay slim, but not to stay healthy.
Eh? the whole point being those three activities will keep you fit and healthy if done reasonably regularly, going to the gym and bodybuilding will not (modern day misconception currently enforced by modern movies).
Yes they do, of course they do. Did you really just say going to the gym and bodybuilding with regularity won't keep you shape?
Quote from: Hubbs on Mar 25, 2015, 04:29:56 PM
Eh? the whole point being those three activities will keep you fit and healthy if done reasonably regularly, going to the gym and bodybuilding will not (modern day misconception currently enforced by modern movies).
If you eat shit, you can get sick, even if you run/swim/cycle.
Professional bodybuilding is unhealthy just as any other competitive sport is.
Eating processed food and soy will still give you cancer no matter how much you work out.
However the main thing that cardio exercise will do is raise good cholesterol levels. However running, swimming and cycling are far too repetitive causing all sorts of joint and ligament injuries. Body building however is much more varied. We're talking healthy weightlifting and not that freak show called professional bodybuilding. Hell body weight exercise alone is good enough. The idea is to get a complete work out that you like and to try and limit the shit you put into your body.
However on the other hand, that ripped, cut look is deemed less healthy than having 15% body fat. I think that's one of the things, animal fat is not a bad thing but oreo fats are.
It's all about balance and the first rule to good balance is to get the ass off of the sofa.
I've been doing athletics/distance running virtually my whole life, never once gone to a gym, never needed to.
I think there are some people out there these days that just do weights to try and get their arms as big as possible so they can look cool in a tight t-shirt lol! ::)
Oh so you like looking at thick arms in tight t-shirts. ;)
However I like being able to carry heavy things and running doesn't help much there. :P
Quote from: Hubbs on Mar 26, 2015, 12:07:26 AM
I've been doing athletics/distance running virtually my whole life, never once gone to a gym, never needed to.
I think there are some people out there these days that just do weights to try and get their arms as big as possible so they can look cool in a tight t-shirt lol! ::)
That's a very narrow view of things. If someone goes to a gym that's usually a sign of the kind of work they put in. It takes effort to go weekly, daily in some cases. That kind of work ethic should be respected.
Personally, I was out of shape until about a year or so ago. I started doing jobs that required physical labor. Of course, I still could use improvement, but I have improved both my strength and endurance greatly. As much as I respect the dedication a lot of regular gym goers put in, I feel that working a labor intensive job tends to build strength/burn fat more effectively. But, I suppose it depends on what kind of labor intensive job.
I have started doing 5x5 [Strong Lifts version] to try get my overall strength up, One thing I disagree with, with the creator of the site, is that there is no need to do cardio. Granted too much cardio if you a going for bulk/mass can defeat your goal but cutting it out completely doesn't sound right. I still plan on dedicating one day to jogging or doing HIIT.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Mar 25, 2015, 10:51:44 PM
Eating processed food and soy will still give you cancer no matter how much you work out.
However the main thing that cardio exercise will do is raise good cholesterol levels. However running, swimming and cycling are far too repetitive causing all sorts of joint and ligament injuries. Body building however is much more varied. We're talking healthy weightlifting and not that freak show called professional bodybuilding. Hell body weight exercise alone is good enough. The idea is to get a complete work out that you like and to try and limit the shit you put into your body.
However on the other hand, that ripped, cut look is deemed less healthy than having 15% body fat. I think that's one of the things, animal fat is not a bad thing but oreo fats are.
It's all about balance and the first rule to good balance is to get the ass off of the sofa.
Good post. I would also comment that mobility tends to be the thing that goes out before health really falls apart. I sometimes see old farts with hunch backs and beer guts that walk 5 miles daily and are able to live on their own well into their 80s.
Overall longevity is associated with lower metabolism (only mild to moderate exercise), low caloric intake (eat
less), and preservation of range of motion in the joints.
Quote from: The PredBen on Mar 26, 2015, 03:31:24 AM
Personally, I was out of shape until about a year or so ago. I started doing jobs that required physical labor. Of course, I still could use improvement, but I have improved both my strength and endurance greatly. As much as I respect the dedication a lot of regular gym goers put in, I feel that working a labor intensive job tends to build strength/burn fat more effectively. But, I suppose it depends on what kind of labor intensive job.
Well sure. If you're constantly on the move, lifting heavy objects, it's unavoidable exercise. You need to have a strong resolve for jobs like that though. Being on your feet for 8, 12, even 15 hours can really take a toll on some people.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 27, 2015, 11:29:11 AM
Quote from: The PredBen on Mar 26, 2015, 03:31:24 AM
Personally, I was out of shape until about a year or so ago. I started doing jobs that required physical labor. Of course, I still could use improvement, but I have improved both my strength and endurance greatly. As much as I respect the dedication a lot of regular gym goers put in, I feel that working a labor intensive job tends to build strength/burn fat more effectively. But, I suppose it depends on what kind of labor intensive job.
Well sure. If you're constantly on the move, lifting heavy objects, it's unavoidable exercise. You need to have a strong resolve for jobs like that though. Being on your feet for 8, 12, even 15 hours can really take a toll on some people.
Yeah it was really draining. The job I was doing has recently ended, and I'm kinda glad about it. I could manage doing the work, but it left me pretty exhausted by the end of the day. I had no energy for much else when I got home from work. I just would have dinner, serf the net for a bit, and go to bed early. Though, some would say that isn't a bad thing.
Quote from: The PredBen on Mar 27, 2015, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 27, 2015, 11:29:11 AM
Quote from: The PredBen on Mar 26, 2015, 03:31:24 AM
Personally, I was out of shape until about a year or so ago. I started doing jobs that required physical labor. Of course, I still could use improvement, but I have improved both my strength and endurance greatly. As much as I respect the dedication a lot of regular gym goers put in, I feel that working a labor intensive job tends to build strength/burn fat more effectively. But, I suppose it depends on what kind of labor intensive job.
Well sure. If you're constantly on the move, lifting heavy objects, it's unavoidable exercise. You need to have a strong resolve for jobs like that though. Being on your feet for 8, 12, even 15 hours can really take a toll on some people.
Yeah it was really draining. The job I was doing has recently ended, and I'm kinda glad about it. I could manage doing the work, but it left me pretty exhausted by the end of the day. I had no energy for much else when I got home from work. I just would have dinner, serf the net for a bit, and go to bed early. Though, some would say that isn't a bad thing.
Talk about shitty jobs, I worked one summer at a UPS shipping warehouse in Arizona. I think that was the one time in my life that I was totally ripped. It was a weight room located in a f**king sauna.
Warehouses are the worst. I used to work in one myself as a security guard. I wasn't doing any heavy lifting, but the lack of ventilation definitely gets to you after a while. I recall working a renovations job back in 2007 and I think that's where I jump-started my metabolism. Being natural skinny, it was easy to accomplish and that was when I really noticed how thin I used to be.
Even runners lift weights for strength. It takes a higher amount of reps with a tight diet and years of lifting to get huge. Not everyone who picks up a weight does it to get ripped like a bodybuilder. Bodybuilding in and of itself isn't unhealthy either. Pro bodybuilding is a different story. Resistance training will in fact keep you healthy if you are doing a good program. Diet is still 90% if not more of it.
What was it again... muscles don't age; but joints do!
Quote from: razeak on Apr 01, 2015, 03:02:54 AM
Even runners lift weights for strength. It takes a higher amount of reps with a tight diet and years of lifting to get huge. Not everyone who picks up a weight does it to get ripped like a bodybuilder. Bodybuilding in and of itself isn't unhealthy either. Pro bodybuilding is a different story. Resistance training will in fact keep you healthy if you are doing a good program. Diet is still 90% if not more of it.
Diet, lifestyle, and exercise. The diet has to remain a clean one pretty much exclusively with little to no cheating and if you work a job that's sedentary, that won't help either.
Well I ain't doing shit for a while, dislocated my Clavicle and got a concussion and hole in the head. lol. Bike, wet roads, slippery road paint... no helmet. So remember kiddies, always wear your helmet. :)
Oh, and no April 1st joke. :( However I do feel like a huge fool alright. :laugh:
QuoteExercise 'not key to obesity fight'
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-32417699 (http://www.bbc.com/news/health-32417699)
QuoteThe experts, including London cardiologist Dr Aseem Malhotra, blamed the food industry for encouraging the belief that exercise could counteract the impact of unhealthy eating.
They even likened their tactics as "chillingly similar" to those of Big Tobacco on smoking and said celebrity endorsements of sugary drinks and the association of junk food and sport must end.
They said there was evidence that up to 40% of those within a normal weight range will still harbour harmful metabolic abnormalities typically associated with obesity.
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on May 04, 2015, 02:37:31 AM
QuoteExercise 'not key to obesity fight'
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-32417699 (http://www.bbc.com/news/health-32417699)
QuoteThe experts, including London cardiologist Dr Aseem Malhotra, blamed the food industry for encouraging the belief that exercise could counteract the impact of unhealthy eating.
They even likened their tactics as "chillingly similar" to those of Big Tobacco on smoking and said celebrity endorsements of sugary drinks and the association of junk food and sport must end.
They said there was evidence that up to 40% of those within a normal weight range will still harbour harmful metabolic abnormalities typically associated with obesity.
I wonder if this article isn't misrepresenting the study. It doesn't sound they're saying, "Forget exercise, worry about your diet only", but rather, "Focus on both equally."
Lets bring this thread back.Here is a video i watched:
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jan 01, 2016, 09:50:44 PM
Lets bring this thread back.Here is a video i watched:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB03wRT_tHc
Six pack shortcuts is probally one of the worst fitness channels on youtube. The house of the biggest scam artists and broscientists ever.
All those exercises are pointless and needless, normal crunches with weights are enough to make the abs muscles stronger.
But to make your abs appear aka getting that ripped abs look you need to lower your body fat.
You can spend 2 hours doing all kinds of abs exercises but if you have a gut it's pointless.
Just stay on a calorie deficit and your body fat will lower.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jan 01, 2016, 10:13:30 PM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jan 01, 2016, 09:50:44 PM
Lets bring this thread back.Here is a video i watched:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB03wRT_tHc
Six pack shortcuts is probally one of the worst fitness channels on youtube. The house of the biggest scam artists and broscientists ever.
All those exercises are pointless and needless, normal crunches with weights are enough to make the abs muscles stronger.
But to make your abs appear aka getting that ripped abs look you need to lower your body fat.
You can spend 2 hours doing all kinds of abs exercises but if you have a gut it's pointless.
Just stay on a calorie deficit and your body fat will lower.
Seriously i thought they were good/(they did say you have to get rid of the "gut"To get abs)
crunches with weights(what about these guys?)
Warning: Bad (haha bad) joke below.
Spoiler
If someone has sex in a gym, does that count as sexercise? ;D
Quote from: FiorinaFury161 on Jan 08, 2016, 01:15:24 AM
Warning: Bad (haha bad) joke below.
Spoiler
If someone has sex in a gym, does that count as sexercise? ;D
Fury you and me both bad jokers (Match made in heaven😃
I'm back to working out after nearly a full year away from the gym. I had one session last week; an hour of legs. Between that and a 16 minute metcon routine at the end, I could barely walk for the next four days. This week however, last Monday, I repeated the exact same thing, barely felt it!
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2016, 03:45:21 AM
I'm back to working out after nearly a full year away from the gym. I had one session last week; an hour of legs. Between that and a 16 minute metcon routine at the end, I could barely walk for the next four days. This week however, last Monday, I repeated the exact same thing, barely felt it!
Its annoying when you break your workout for some time.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jan 14, 2016, 05:23:20 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2016, 03:45:21 AM
I'm back to working out after nearly a full year away from the gym. I had one session last week; an hour of legs. Between that and a 16 minute metcon routine at the end, I could barely walk for the next four days. This week however, last Monday, I repeated the exact same thing, barely felt it!
Its annoying when you break your workout for some time.
Couldn't be helped. I was sick last year, had surgery, and a shoulder injury.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2016, 05:33:30 PM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jan 14, 2016, 05:23:20 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2016, 03:45:21 AM
I'm back to working out after nearly a full year away from the gym. I had one session last week; an hour of legs. Between that and a 16 minute metcon routine at the end, I could barely walk for the next four days. This week however, last Monday, I repeated the exact same thing, barely felt it!
Its annoying when you break your workout for some time.
Couldn't be helped. I was sick last year, had surgery, and a shoulder injury.
How did that happen.
Perhaps you could be more specific.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2016, 10:25:57 PM
Perhaps you could be more specific.
How did the injury's happen
http://sixpackshortcuts.com/desktop/mm//?afid=4761&click_id=102ada66848ccd7576c2ef809997a4&offer_id=18&c1=pickwhatyouwant_mm&c2=&c3=&source=
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2016, 05:27:17 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2016, 10:25:57 PM
Perhaps you could be more specific.
How did the injury's happen
I missed this! Sorry bud.
I was working on my shoulder muscles. I don't know what the exercise is specifically called, but it involves tying a TRX (http://ironmountainmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/trx_large1.jpg) around a chin up bar on the wall, and pulling myself up at an angle with one arm for X number of reps, to be repeated with the other arm. I ended up tearing my left pectoral muscle and was out of action for almost two months. Let me tell you; it hurt like a son of a bitch. I couldn't raise my arm at all.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 22, 2016, 07:04:55 AM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jan 16, 2016, 05:27:17 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Jan 14, 2016, 10:25:57 PM
Perhaps you could be more specific.
How did the injury's happen
I missed this! Sorry bud.
I was working on my shoulder muscles. I don't know what the exercise is specifically called, but it involves tying a TRX (http://ironmountainmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/trx_large1.jpg) around a chin up bar on the wall, and pulling myself up at an angle with one arm for X number of reps, to be repeated with the other arm. I ended up tearing my left pectoral muscle and was out of action for almost two months. Let me tell you; it hurt like a son of a bitch. I couldn't raise my arm at all.
Dont worry,ouch must have hurt.
Oh yeah. My shoulder was on fire. I was popping Tylenol and Advil like they were going out of style.
So if anyone is interested in joining the RAF regt:
A few pointers from someone with years and years experience...
1. Don't get sold on funky dieting. Adequate nutritional intake is priority #1. Vitamin supplements should be well balanced and not in excess of the "daily value". A lot of supplements will have a shit load of B vitamins. Avoid those. Stick with balanced multi-vitamins that don't have 100X what you need. Protein shakes work okay, but nowhere near as good as meal replacement drinks. Anything like instant breakfast that has protein, carbs, calories, vitamins will work better. Your nutritional intake should be based on two to three stages of energy production:fast and medium and slow. Energy production considerations should include protein. When your body's fuel is adequately structure, your body's performance will be optimal.
2. Rest. PLENTY OF REST! You won't find anything that can supplement rest and without it you won't gain nearly as much. Your body will always be recovering to some extent without enough rest. Especially your immune system.
3. Your body fits a more static design than you realize. The mechanics are such that each rage of motion involves multiple muscles and naturally developed along range of motion oriented paths. Don't try to compensate by working one group more to have what feels like or seems to be more even impact. Focus on how you're body moves more than what specific muscles are being used. A huge deal is realizing that there's two separate aspects to how your body moves. There's the joints and the muscles. Avoid using your joints. Focus on using your muscles. Most plateauing comes from using the joints instead of the muscles. Your joints don't develop so you don't gain beyond what your muscle memory involves your joints. You won't suffer as much because your muscles were designed to heal as your joints were meant for motion.
4. Work towards having your own gym. Bit by bit and piece by piece it will happen.
5. Advanced supplement construction: once you understand what your body needs, what your body does best with and what works, you can begin stacking effectively. Augmentation using actual food sources(ie: adding peanut butter, raw eggs and instant breakfast to a whey protein shake) is one side of the coin with using various supplements to make a supplement custom tailored for you being the other. Regardless of who says it and what they are trying to pitch; there's no getting away from actual food for the best results.
Then there is age... and age is a bitch. :'(
Thankfully we have drugs. :)
This is an old thread, but I figure it's better than starring a new one!
I used to run loads, but a bad knee (caused by running, of all things) kinda put paid to it until I could get my fitness back in shape, working around it. Recently I've managed to get back to a decent point (I think), and I've started running again.
I'm hoping to do the Birmingham and Manchester half marathons this year, if I can get to that point. Just did 5.5 miles in 70 minutes.
Anyone else entering those?
Quote from: Stitch on Mar 19, 2023, 06:21:05 PMThis is an old thread, but I figure it's better than starring a new one!
I used to run loads, but a bad knee (caused by running, of all things) kinda put paid to it until I could get my fitness back in shape, working around it. Recently I've managed to get back to a decent point (I think), and I've started running again.
I'm hoping to do the Birmingham and Manchester half marathons this year, if I can get to that point. Just did 5.5 miles in 70 minutes.
Anyone else entering those?
That's a really good time for 5.5 miles. I've only recently managed to hit 10 kilometers in about 62 mins - on a treadmill.
I struggled to reach 5K just a few months ago.
Word to the wise. Running 4 miles and then playing squash for hours makes you hurt.
Running ten miles also hurts.
Half marathon in under two weeks!
OK, so I did my half marathon yesterday. 2:37. Hoped to be about 20 minutes quicker, but the weather was crazily hot, way hotter than its been so far this year (way hotter than it is today!).
Didn't help that there was no water station for the last 4 miles or so, which I think was a really bad decision by the organisers.
I spent 9 months overseas and worked on my run because there was nothing better to do. I'd typically run 5-7 miles and ran a couple of ten milers while there for the lulz. I like to run because you can kind of shut down your brain and exercise without thinking about it, but after the five mile mark for me I start to get bored doing it.
I got to where I could run 2 miles in 13:30, 5 miles in 38 minutes, and then would steady off at about 8 minute miles afterwards. I never really found out what my limit was distance wise, but its over ten miles. I wasn't running across country here either. The base I was at had a running lane that went half way around it that was flat so that made my runs faster than typical.
My main issue with running, despite it eventually getting boring is that it eats your gains if you go to the gym. Or at least it does me. So now I typically rotate cardio days with strength training and run no more than 30 mins at a time with about about a ten minute warmup and fifteen minute cooldown of just walking.
When I was over there the cardio and the heat dropped me down from about 190 to 159. Which I hadn't been 159 since probably my sophomore year in highschool. My old sergeant was concerned when I came back from ethiopia to djibouti because I'd done so much cardio and had lost so much weight that you could see the bones in my face. I had to explain to him that there was nothing wrong there just wasn't shit else to do. Ethiopia didn't have the track but they had treadmills I'd use everyday so I wouldn't lose my running gains I'd acquired in DJ. The Ethiopian base didn't even have internet, so there was literally NOTHING else to do once you got off shift.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Jun 29, 2023, 05:47:47 AMThe Ethiopian base didn't even have internet, so there was literally NOTHING else to do once you got off shift.
So basically a case of no entertainment center, no climate control, no video system, no surveillance, no freezers, no f*cking ice cream, no rubbers, no women,
no guns?
Bro, it got about Alien 3 levels of bad. In Ethiopia we shut that camp down so the last month or so we were supposed to live off of MREs. They stored the MREs in an outside bathhouse that we couldn't use because the water if it got in your eyes could blind you (there was a mobile bath house of US design that ran off a water tank that got packed up and sent, and an inside shower that had the same water as outside but just keep the water out of your eyes). Anyways, the drain backed up from a sewage failure and shitwater went over the top of the MRES.
MREs are sealed and were probably fine internally, but there was no way I was going to eat shitwater MREs for anything short of a major world war, a nuclear war, or a zombie invasion.
So I had a month of nothing but eating blueberry poptarts (one of the reason I got down to 159) as they were the only food that was left over for that month because everything else got eaten already or sent back. By the end of the month I couldn't eat them without triggering a gag reflex.
I think I went out to town a couple of times and ate, but I had the day shift and could never leave except when I had a day off. Ethiopia isn't like the US. If you aren't out and about during the day when everybody works, then no business is open.
Is that where you got desperate enough to play RE6?
AND Colonial Marines.
At least NCAA was still thriving back then. Can you eat blueberry Pop Tarts now?
I haven't had a blueberry poptart in ten years. I don't think now that it is because of some psychological recall of that time, but rather that chocolate poptarts are superior.
Is Ethiopia included in the good old days for you?
I liked Ethiopia, one of my fondest military times, despite the disassociation from technology we are used to here.