There’s a lot of intricate details contained within the teaser trailer so I thought it was worth doing an analysis of the thing for everybody to read. Here’s my Prometheus Teaser Trailer Analysis. It’s just my take on everything we’ve seen and how the scenes might fit together. I've tried to put the scenes in some sort of chronological order of when they happen in the movie. There’s still a huge amount we don’t know about the film so hopefully some scenes will become clearer when more media is released.
Once again, it’s just my opinion, and not necessarily fact.
Quote from: Master on Dec 23, 2011, 06:18:20 PM
But there is one other thing. This saucer above waterfall is nothing like derelict. Maybe bald guy is another alien being not related to humans or Jockeys?
Quote from: deuterium on Dec 23, 2011, 06:56:56 PMQuote from: Master on Dec 23, 2011, 06:18:20 PM
But there is one other thing. This saucer above waterfall is nothing like derelict. Maybe bald guy is another alien being not related to humans or Jockeys?
I mentioned in another thread that the black, disc shape which is above the waterfall might be the opening / exit to a wormhole. This would go along with some of the rumors about time travel, and Earth in the distant past.
Quote from: invertyourcross on Dec 23, 2011, 07:18:37 PM
Also, didn't Fassbender mention that he had a blast being killed by an alien on set?
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Rafe Spall did.
Quote from: Face Jockey on Dec 23, 2011, 08:17:34 PM
The prometheus colliding with the engineer ship must occur for some reason. Who is willing to sacrifice their ship to prevent the other from leaving?
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 23, 2011, 08:21:00 PMQuote from: Face Jockey on Dec 23, 2011, 08:17:34 PM
The prometheus colliding with the engineer ship must occur for some reason. Who is willing to sacrifice their ship to prevent the other from leaving?
rumour has it that its a blaze of glory last moment from captain janek to stop the space jockeys/engineers leaving to destroy earth.
thanks
rich
Quote from: Face Jockey on Dec 23, 2011, 08:28:24 PMQuote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 23, 2011, 08:21:00 PMQuote from: Face Jockey on Dec 23, 2011, 08:17:34 PM
The prometheus colliding with the engineer ship must occur for some reason. Who is willing to sacrifice their ship to prevent the other from leaving?
rumour has it that its a blaze of glory last moment from captain janek to stop the space jockeys/engineers leaving to destroy earth.
thanks
rich
Are planetary engineers going to wipe out earth because some android tried to swipe their tech? Also, there would have to be some way for the humans to communicate with the Engineer(s) to even know that's that they were planning.
Quote from: Miker25 on Dec 23, 2011, 09:48:10 PM
That scene with red laser lights in the cave, I think that's some kind of tool the Prometheus crew are using to survey the inside of cave/tunnel
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Dec 23, 2011, 10:19:38 PM
^^In 1080p. It's weird. What is that ? ??? It looks like a humanoid or it's nothing. Don't know
Edit: I've watch it in motion. It doesn't move. It's nothing.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/20111222_teasertrailer41.jpg)
QuoteAfter the official release of the "Prometheus" trailer, TotalFilm caught up with Charlize Theron to find out whether her character will be similar to Sigourney Weaver's iconic Ripley role.
"No, I actually don't play the heroine in it; that's Noomi Rapace (Sherlock Holmes 2). I play somewhat of a villain in it," she replied. "She's not a believer, she's not a scientist, she is the red tape that everyone has to go through."
Theron continued: "She's working with the company that's sponsoring this whole thing and you can feel she definitely has an agenda, which we pick up in the third act. She's more quiet thunder."
It sounds like her role will be similar to Paul Reiser's Carter Burke character in "Aliens."
Read more: http://worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=23663&count=0#ixzz1hP51Imdg (http://worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=23663&count=0#ixzz1hP51Imdg)
Quote from: Master on Dec 23, 2011, 11:32:01 PM
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I`ve just noticed piramid in the bacground. Hmmm...
Quote from: Master on Dec 23, 2011, 11:32:01 PM
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I`ve just noticed piramid in the bacground. Hmmm...
Quote from: Miker25 on Dec 23, 2011, 09:48:10 PM
That scene with red laser lights in the cave, I think that's some kind of tool the Prometheus crew are using to survey the inside of cave/tunnel
Quote from: ryanjayhawk on Dec 23, 2011, 11:50:12 PMQuote from: Master on Dec 23, 2011, 11:32:01 PM
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I`ve just noticed piramid in the bacground. Hmmm...
I assumed that was the other horseshoe portion of the derelict style ship?
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 23, 2011, 11:29:52 PM
I think all the fire is from the Prometheus. The derelict hardly gets damaged by the explosion.
Quote from: ryanjayhawk on Dec 23, 2011, 11:50:12 PMQuote from: Master on Dec 23, 2011, 11:32:01 PM
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I`ve just noticed piramid in the bacground. Hmmm...
I assumed that was the other horseshoe portion of the derelict style ship?
Quote from: ikarop on Dec 24, 2011, 01:41:31 AM
Some related analysis. There's something in background of the image they used for the official Youtube channel:
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Looks like a claw to me.
Quote from: Space_Dementia on Dec 23, 2011, 11:51:07 PM
Alien could be based hundreds of years after this movie what whatever might occur in this movie
Quote from: Some Mothers Do Have Em! on Dec 24, 2011, 03:23:37 AM
Looks like a claw to me.
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Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 24, 2011, 07:16:00 AM
Oy...
Dude, relax. :) The film's going to incorporate the ET interventionist hypothesis and there's nothing you can do about it!
Seriously, if it's portrayed with an effective atmosphere and convincingly so, why not put it in a story dealing with dark Lovecraftian themes? It's as good as any other. You might as well protest the original film for portraying a creature able to grow from the size of a snake to larger than man without apparently consuming any mass for being 'unscientific', too. ;)
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Quote from: m138jewski on Dec 24, 2011, 07:42:45 AM
anyone notice the fox logo at the beginning and the static blips at the end are exactly like the helmet cams from the nostromo crew, even the sound fx
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The chap on the left is wearing glasses. Do we know who this may be?
Anyone got any thought on the look on his face when the red lasers come on? Could be many, unfortunately, from "What's that?" to "Yep, their working fine."
Another thing I'd be grateful for your input is the guy getting acid on his helmet.
Can anyone tell whether the left of his forehead (his right) has been hit? It appears that he may have.
Also, can anyone confirm whether he's wearing one of those yellow flying cap caps over his head? From what I can make out I think he isn't. The only two people I've seen in the teaser that are not wearing the caps are the two men firing their weapons.
Cheers,
Paul
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Kol, I am not saying you are wrong, given the ignorance, ineptitude and stupidity within Hollywood...and please don't take this the wrong way...but you can shove the "Nazca Lines", "Nebra Sky Disc", "Easter Island monuments" and all other Von Daniken BULLSHIT right back up his ARSE! And if you believe any of that shit, save some room in your canal as well, with all due respect.
And pre-emptively, I formally apologize for the vitriol in this last post, which was NOT directed at Kol, per se, but as a Scientist , I am sick of this Pseudo-Science BULLSHIT !!
In the interest of Full Disclosure, I am a devout Catholic...but I have no conflict with my religious/spiritual Faith and my acceptance of Physics/Mathematics, Evolutionary Theory, etc. Von Daniken and his fradulent Bullshit have no place either in spirtual Belief/Faith, or in real Science.
Von Daniken and all his ilk are the equivelent of 20th/21st Century "Snake Oil" salesmen. It is truly SAD TIMES when formely legitimate networks such as "The History Channel" give time and voice to fringe/pseudo-science nonsense such as "ancient aliens", and "monster hunters", just to name a few of their fringe programming. Don't get me wrong, the History Channel still has some decent documentaries, that are based upon real PEER-REVIEWED research...but they dilute their legitimacy by airing BULLSHIT programs that target the ignorance of uncritical, and uneducated minds. Examples of which are entire programs dedicated to "dowsing rods", "Homeopathy cures", "Ancient Aliens", "The Bermuda Triangle", "Monsterquest", "UFO Hunters", the Paranormal, etc., etc.
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 24, 2011, 09:51:36 AMUmm no because 'fossilised' is a very distinctive description 'looks like shit' is slang ???
Nooo pls not the foosilised-thing again...
Imagine he would've said "LOOKS LIKE shit" when he first saw the SJ...would it be made of shit then?
Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 24, 2011, 12:44:30 PM
LOOKS LIKE means LOOKS LIKE and not IS.
Quote from: marsekay on Dec 24, 2011, 01:30:43 PM
Regarding the spinny red disco lights, i believe they are human scanning tech, remember the big floating scanner from aliens at the start? had a blue glow though.
it comes in and scans just after the pod door gets cut open.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 24, 2011, 04:51:17 PM
Okay...where is the last picture from? It doesn't seem remotely familiar to me.
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Dec 24, 2011, 12:46:11 PMQuote from: Never say no to Panda! on Dec 24, 2011, 12:44:30 PM
LOOKS LIKE means LOOKS LIKE and not IS.
I liked the folsilized idea too.
Quote from: deuterium on Dec 24, 2011, 06:07:59 AMKol, I am not saying you are wrong, given the ignorance, ineptitude and stupidity within Hollywood...and please don't take this the wrong way...but you can shove the "Nazca Lines", "Nebra Sky Disc", "Easter Island monuments" and all other Von Daniken BULLSHIT right back up his ARSE!
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 24, 2011, 04:51:17 PM
Okay...where is the last picture from? It doesn't seem remotely familiar to me.
Quote from: 343 on Dec 25, 2011, 10:01:48 PMOh great, if that is true that could mean that a space jockey was abandoned on earth as punishment for stealing something to give to the monkeys he made... he then had sex with them giving birth to humans.
Who says the Spacejockies all look the same?
Maybe the Spacejockey we see in the imagetrailer has to evolve even further....maybe....
Quote from: Bayo on Dec 25, 2011, 11:31:20 PMIt's Christmas! What else do you expect us to do? Sit around the dinner table listening to boring ass stories?
its interesting how everyone including me are analyzing and almost trying
to figured out the plot. but this movie has just entered its phase of
post production and with only a teaser, they manage to show some beautiful
finished cgi shots, especially the derelict ship. now they have i think until
early may to finish all the cgi shots. i think Ridley deliberated rush this
shots to turn our attention so, how many important shots are we missed? are
we have enough images to figured out something concrete?
Quote from: Bayo on Dec 25, 2011, 11:31:20 PM
its interesting how everyone including me are analyzing and almost trying
to figured out the plot. but this movie has just entered its phase of
post production and with only a teaser, they manage to show some beautiful
finished cgi shots, especially the derelict ship. now they have i think until
early may to finish all the cgi shots. i think Ridley deliberated rush this
shots to turn our attention so, how many important shots are we missed? are
we have enough images to figured out something concrete?
Quote from: Tough little S.O.B. on Dec 24, 2011, 12:27:13 PMQuote from: deuterium on Dec 24, 2011, 06:07:59 AMQuote from: Kol on Dec 24, 2011, 04:36:12 AM
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Kol, I am not saying you are wrong, given the ignorance, ineptitude and stupidity within Hollywood...and please don't take this the wrong way...but you can shove the "Nazca Lines", "Nebra Sky Disc", "Easter Island monuments" and all other Von Daniken BULLSHIT right back up his ARSE! And if you believe any of that shit, save some room in your canal as well, with all due respect.
And pre-emptively, I formally apologize for the vitriol in this last post, which was NOT directed at Kol, per se, but as a Scientist , I am sick of this Pseudo-Science BULLSHIT !!
In the interest of Full Disclosure, I am a devout Catholic...but I have no conflict with my religious/spiritual Faith and my acceptance of Physics/Mathematics, Evolutionary Theory, etc. Von Daniken and his fradulent Bullshit have no place either in spirtual Belief/Faith, or in real Science.
Von Daniken and all his ilk are the equivelent of 20th/21st Century "Snake Oil" salesmen. It is truly SAD TIMES when formely legitimate networks such as "The History Channel" give time and voice to fringe/pseudo-science nonsense such as "ancient aliens", and "monster hunters", just to name a few of their fringe programming. Don't get me wrong, the History Channel still has some decent documentaries, that are based upon real PEER-REVIEWED research...but they dilute their legitimacy by airing BULLSHIT programs that target the ignorance of uncritical, and uneducated minds. Examples of which are entire programs dedicated to "dowsing rods", "Homeopathy cures", "Ancient Aliens", "The Bermuda Triangle", "Monsterquest", "UFO Hunters", the Paranormal, etc., etc.
I agree that all this nazca, egyptian-ufo-aliens etc pseudo science thing its lame and boring. I dont want anything of this in this or any other movie again. Anyway, Mr Deuterium, I have to say that criticise this and then claim that you are catholic...well..ehem ehem...You say your faith and catholicism does not conflict with your scientific side, well. If it does not conflict is because either you dont really believe one or another, or because you just pick the parts of each one that are more convenient to you. For me, when u have a scientific brain, you can not be catholic or believe in any other religion. (you can have faith maybe). For me, all religions are the pure negation of science, ration, comon sense , logic and freedom. But Each one is free to believe whatever they want. At least Ovnis and alien shit dont tell you what to do. (well, scientologist madness do I thing...)...
Just my opinion, not triying to anoy anyone.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 25, 2011, 05:56:25 AM
I'm with you on the hating of Daniken and his minions, but there are aspects of these stories that do remain mysterious and because of that make for good speculative fiction, as long as said fiction doesn't rewrite what we know. We know that the Nebra Sky Disc is a decorative piece of Bronze Age bric-a-brac, and that the Easter Island statues are depictions of ancestors and chiefs carved by the Polynesians. But we don't know how life began or exactly how human evolution has tracked, and we don't know whether extraterrestrials exist or not. You can put these things together and make a good story.
-Chris
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Kol, I am not saying you are wrong, given the ignorance, ineptitude and stupidity within Hollywood...and please don't take this the wrong way...but you can shove the "Nazca Lines", "Nebra Sky Disc", "Easter Island monuments" and all other Von Daniken BULLSHIT right back up his ARSE! And if you believe any of that shit, save some room in your canal as well, with all due respect.
And pre-emptively, I formally apologize for the vitriol in this last post, which was NOT directed at Kol, per se, but as a Scientist , I am sick of this Pseudo-Science BULLSHIT !!
In the interest of Full Disclosure, I am a devout Catholic...but I have no conflict with my religious/spiritual Faith and my acceptance of Physics/Mathematics, Evolutionary Theory, etc. Von Daniken and his fradulent Bullshit have no place either in spirtual Belief/Faith, or in real Science.
Von Daniken and all his ilk are the equivelent of 20th/21st Century "Snake Oil" salesmen. It is truly SAD TIMES when formely legitimate networks such as "The History Channel" give time and voice to fringe/pseudo-science nonsense such as "ancient aliens", and "monster hunters", just to name a few of their fringe programming. Don't get me wrong, the History Channel still has some decent documentaries, that are based upon real PEER-REVIEWED research...but they dilute their legitimacy by airing BULLSHIT programs that target the ignorance of uncritical, and uneducated minds. Examples of which are entire programs dedicated to "dowsing rods", "Homeopathy cures", "Ancient Aliens", "The Bermuda Triangle", "Monsterquest", "UFO Hunters", the Paranormal, etc., etc.
I agree that all this nazca, egyptian-ufo-aliens etc pseudo science thing its lame and boring. I dont want anything of this in this or any other movie again. Anyway, Mr Deuterium, I have to say that criticise this and then claim that you are catholic...well..ehem ehem...You say your faith and catholicism does not conflict with your scientific side, well. If it does not conflict is because either you dont really believe one or another, or because you just pick the parts of each one that are more convenient to you. For me, when u have a scientific brain, you can not be catholic or believe in any other religion. (you can have faith maybe). For me, all religions are the pure negation of science, ration, comon sense , logic and freedom. But Each one is free to believe whatever they want. At least Ovnis and alien shit dont tell you what to do. (well, scientologist madness do I thing...)...
Just my opinion, not triying to anoy anyone.Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 25, 2011, 05:56:25 AM
I'm with you on the hating of Daniken and his minions, but there are aspects of these stories that do remain mysterious and because of that make for good speculative fiction, as long as said fiction doesn't rewrite what we know. We know that the Nebra Sky Disc is a decorative piece of Bronze Age bric-a-brac, and that the Easter Island statues are depictions of ancestors and chiefs carved by the Polynesians. But we don't know how life began or exactly how human evolution has tracked, and we don't know whether extraterrestrials exist or not. You can put these things together and make a good story.
-Chris
lol
i think you three never considered that god could be even a woman?
ps: i don't care that you are "hating" erich von däniken & his theorie's. but you should be more tolerant, cos this movie will be so full of it...
and that's all what my post with the resembled pictures was about. and not: do i, or do i not believe this shit.
Quote from: Kol on Dec 26, 2011, 03:37:57 AM
lol
i think you three never considered that god could be even a woman?
ps: i don't care that you are "hating" erich von däniken & his theorie's. but you should be more tolerant, cos this movie will be so full of it...
and that's all what my post with the resembled pictures was about. and not: do i, or do i not believe this shit.
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 26, 2011, 05:15:26 AM
@deuterium
infinite regression is the same question you get with any god, creation, religion story!.
not meaning to drag that on deuterium but with your faith + science knowledge you know this well and appear to be contradicting yourself.
as for this story, there could be an explanation, maybe they evolved naturaly in the way we think we did ie from acids etc BUT unlike us, they have figured out exactly how it works and have mastered it enough to create life purposely and also mastered it enough to create whatever they want!.
next theory is they could be like your god, ie "they are the beginning and the end" with no explanation.
last theory is maybe were just meant to be left with more mysteries to question just as we were with the original sj in alien.
thanks
rich
Quote from: deuterium on Dec 26, 2011, 05:26:36 AMQuote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 26, 2011, 05:15:26 AM
@deuterium
infinite regression is the same question you get with any god, creation, religion story!.
not meaning to drag that on deuterium but with your faith + science knowledge you know this well and appear to be contradicting yourself.
as for this story, there could be an explanation, maybe they evolved naturaly in the way we think we did ie from acids etc BUT unlike us, they have figured out exactly how it works and have mastered it enough to create life purposely and also mastered it enough to create whatever they want!.
next theory is they could be like your god, ie "they are the beginning and the end" with no explanation.
last theory is maybe were just meant to be left with more mysteries to question just as we were with the original sj in alien.
thanks
rich
No, there is definitely no infinite regression with an ex nihilo God. In fact, the basis and foundation of standard modern Cosmology asserts that our Universe contains everything that is physical, and nothing that is not physical. That means that our Universe contains Space and Time, and does NOT exist in space and time. You, me, our thoughts and consciousness, as well as Space and Time all are physical things, and exist and are contained within the Universe. God (or the Creator) exists outside of the Universe, and transcends space and time.
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 26, 2011, 05:34:54 AM
sorry but there is no "definitely", as that is your opinion only and is not fact. i disagree totally and personally dont believe in god, BUT as a good skeptic i also cant rule it out BUT if there is a god or gods then i highly doubt its the one portrayed in those nonsense religious books as theyre about as factual as von danikans work.
thanks
rich
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 26, 2011, 05:53:28 AM
back on topic. what do you think of the theories i gave for the sj?
thanks
rich
Quote from: deuterium on Dec 26, 2011, 06:02:39 AMQuote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 26, 2011, 05:53:28 AM
back on topic. what do you think of the theories i gave for the sj?
thanks
rich
As for your theories for the SJ, I like 'em. Matter of fact, I wish there were more creative and imaginative people in Hollywood, such as yourself. As much as I am looking forward to Prometheus, I am concerned by the involvement of Damon Lindelof. Nevertheless, I hope he surprises me, and that the core story turns out to be worthy of the original two movies.
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 26, 2011, 05:53:28 AM
im not that concerned about lindelof because from one of the interviews he gave it appears that all he has done is put ridleys ideas into words and add some drama/tension. i dont think the rewrite has been too big from spaihts work as spaights is still credited and before lindelof.
Quote from: SHREK on Dec 23, 2011, 10:42:02 PMWhats really really funny is that if you ever bother to take the time to read alien vault you will fully realise that prometheus is the "original movie that scott and obannon wanted to make" , claiming scott has messed up his creation when in fact he is showing us everything he couldnt in the original ( the derilict scene was supposed to last an hour) , feature temples and giant evil alien occult scientists etc etc.....
Well i for one really dont like the direction this is going in, ridley scott seems to have messed up his own creation now sadly. Think they should have just left the space jockey with the mystery behind it. Not telling us its a human in a suit and everyone goes crazy and mutates. Alien and predator franchise are completely dead now.
Quote from: PrometheusFire on Dec 28, 2011, 06:24:25 AMQuote from: SHREK on Dec 23, 2011, 10:42:02 PMWhats really really funny is that if you ever bother to take the time to read alien vault you will fully realise that prometheus is the "original movie that scott and obannon wanted to make" , claiming scott has messed up his creation when in fact he is showing us everything he couldnt in the original ( the derilict scene was supposed to last an hour) , feature temples and giant evil alien occult scientists etc etc.....
Well i for one really dont like the direction this is going in, ridley scott seems to have messed up his own creation now sadly. Think they should have just left the space jockey with the mystery behind it. Not telling us its a human in a suit and everyone goes crazy and mutates. Alien and predator franchise are completely dead now.
It was left a mystery due to budgeting issues......not storytelling smarts :)
Quote from: PrometheusFire on Dec 28, 2011, 06:24:25 AMfeature temples and giant evil alien occult scientists etc etc...
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 28, 2011, 10:53:59 PMI don't think there was such an angle, at all. Ever. Weird comment.Quote from: PrometheusFire on Dec 28, 2011, 06:24:25 AMfeature temples and giant evil alien occult scientists etc etc...
Wasn't aware of the alien occult scientists angle. I gotta get that book.
-Chris
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 29, 2011, 01:59:18 AMAfraid so valequeen, kane was originally intended to get impregnated and then lowered down crucifix posed onto a sacrificial stone :)Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 28, 2011, 10:53:59 PMI don't think there was such an angle, at all. Ever. Weird comment.Quote from: PrometheusFire on Dec 28, 2011, 06:24:25 AMfeature temples and giant evil alien occult scientists etc etc...
Wasn't aware of the alien occult scientists angle. I gotta get that book.
-Chris
Quote from: PrometheusFire on Dec 29, 2011, 03:16:35 AMQuote from: Valaquen on Dec 29, 2011, 01:59:18 AMPlus: the mural that scott and obannon had giger do that represented the pyramid and the 3 cycles of the xenomorph.........it was supposed to be featured in the temple that the sjs used to sacrifice life ........ Didnt scott mention giger working on some murals for prometheus????Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 28, 2011, 10:53:59 PMI don't think there was such an angle, at all. Ever. Weird comment.Quote from: PrometheusFire on Dec 28, 2011, 06:24:25 AMfeature temples and giant evil alien occult scientists etc etc...
Wasn't aware of the alien occult scientists angle. I gotta get that book.
-Chris
Quote from: bobcunk on Dec 29, 2011, 03:42:49 AMAccording to O'Bannon, no, they didn't at all. The Aliens were a separate natural race and the Jockeys found the aftermath of some apocalyptic event, whereupon they were exposed to Alien spore that impregnated them. O'Bannon: 'See, these alien beings had two sexes of their own, but they needed a third host animal to reproduce. So they'd bring in an animal, put it up on the plinth there with a spore and wham! Then they'd lead the inseminated animal off to an enclosure somewhere to await the birth. But the planetoid was now dead and this civilisation had been gone for a million years. All that remained of it was this pyramid and the spores – which can survive dormant for incredible lengths of time under even the most adverse conditions.'
it never said anything, they could have made them.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 03:44:01 AMNah! :laugh:
I always thought the premise of the space jockey's was that they were seriously twisted aliens because they got so advanced that there was nothing left to do but f**k things.
???
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 29, 2011, 03:38:39 AMYeah when the story was still called starbeast, and originally the derilict had crashed into a pryramid that was used to house the eggs and creatures ( originally had 2 sexes ) that are used as a godlike being , then scott and obannon changed it slightly due to the budget issues ( the reason why the derilict scene is not 45mins- an hour long)
The SJ's weren't behind the Alien in the original story, they merely stumbled upon them accidentally.
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 29, 2011, 04:05:20 AMThe triangle that the sj carved into his console is what leads to further exploration of the craft, which leads them further down.
Where did you hear that the Derelict crashed into the pyramid? Because in the original script they are two very different structures that are sat apart. The crew are only made aware of the pyramid's existence because a dying Jockey craved the shape of it into a console.
The Alien had three sexes, in O'Bannon's idea.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 04:24:43 AMIncluding the original idea that the Alien 'becomes more and more harmless. Finally, its bloodlust gone, the Alien becomes a mild, intelligent creature, capable of art and architecture, which lives a full, scholarly life of 200 years,' ? :laugh:
I much prefer the natural evolution of the alien species. The bioweapon idea isn't as sexy. Almost doesn't make it alien in a sense but it does make it more sci-fi I suppose.
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 29, 2011, 04:26:12 AMBioweapons are too much a creationist philosophy imo. An alien should be, well, alien. Left to develop into it's own existence. Being bread through experiments for war... that just makes it another lab monster gone bad; complete with delayed explosive(chestbuster) timer.Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 04:24:43 AMIncluding the original idea that the Alien 'becomes more and more harmless. Finally, its bloodlust gone, the Alien becomes a mild, intelligent creature, capable of art and architecture, which lives a full, scholarly life of 200 years,' ? :laugh:
I much prefer the natural evolution of the alien species. The bioweapon idea isn't as sexy. Almost doesn't make it alien in a sense but it does make it more sci-fi I suppose.
I think the bioweapon idea is good, it's quite a heinous weapon.
Quote from: Valaquen on Dec 29, 2011, 04:26:12 AMThe original idea was that it only has a 4 day lifespanQuote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 04:24:43 AMIncluding the original idea that the Alien 'becomes more and more harmless. Finally, its bloodlust gone, the Alien becomes a mild, intelligent creature, capable of art and architecture, which lives a full, scholarly life of 200 years,' ? :laugh:
I much prefer the natural evolution of the alien species. The bioweapon idea isn't as sexy. Almost doesn't make it alien in a sense but it does make it more sci-fi I suppose.
I think the bioweapon idea is good, it's quite a heinous weapon.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 05:43:17 AMConvulated? Yeah like a butterfly
The short lifespan is a convoluted idea. That would make the alien no better than "the happening" lol.
Quote from: PrometheusFire on Dec 29, 2011, 05:54:39 AMExactly. All the nostromo crew needed to do was to chill out and wait for it to die all by itself. Instead of hunting the thing down which pretty much got themselves all killed.Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 05:43:17 AMConvulated? Yeah like a butterfly
The short lifespan is a convoluted idea. That would make the alien no better than "the happening" lol.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 06:09:00 AMI dont think the crew had a handbook on alien species, if they didnot go looking for it, it would have gotten them as it has a big need to breed, it wasnt searching in airvents that got bret ,lambert and parker killed was it? It seeked them out i thought???Quote from: PrometheusFire on Dec 29, 2011, 05:54:39 AMExactly. All the nostromo crew needed to do was to chill out and wait for it to die all by itself. Instead of hunting the thing down which pretty much got themselves all killed.Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 05:43:17 AMConvulated? Yeah like a butterfly
The short lifespan is a convoluted idea. That would make the alien no better than "the happening" lol.
Holy shit maybe Ash was trying to protect the crew all along... :o
Quote from: PrometheusFire on Dec 29, 2011, 06:15:59 AMNo it was the cat... uh actually that could be possible... Well in any case the alien didn't seem to be in the mood to kill ripley and it killed parker because he attacked it. The alien seemed a bit curious. The alien probably just wanted to wine and dine Lambert a bit. Oh and the alien probably didn't have a handbook on human anatomy either and merely stuck that tail up the wrong hole.Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 06:09:00 AMI dont think the crew had a handbook on alien species, if they didnot go looking for it, it would have gotten them as it has a big need to breed, it wasnt searching in airvents that got bret ,lambert and parker killed was it? It seeked them out i thought???Quote from: PrometheusFire on Dec 29, 2011, 05:54:39 AMExactly. All the nostromo crew needed to do was to chill out and wait for it to die all by itself. Instead of hunting the thing down which pretty much got themselves all killed.Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 05:43:17 AMConvulated? Yeah like a butterfly
The short lifespan is a convoluted idea. That would make the alien no better than "the happening" lol.
Holy shit maybe Ash was trying to protect the crew all along... :o
Quote from: appleguy on Dec 29, 2011, 12:13:38 PMWhoa! Hats off to whoever made this video, because it is a downright outstanding job. Goosebumps everywhere.
This is awesome.
The original Alien Prometheus style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6SUTI1j9M#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6SUTI1j9M#ws)
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 06:26:43 AMWell lol your kinda right in a sense, the alien had no education about anything other than the inviroment it was born into ....... And i think its sexual tendency's aswell as its biomech style are taken from the sj gene and not the human........ I think all that cross breeding gene swapping/ mixing made for a very sexually frustrated and mentally confused creature, i think that weaver saw the alien as a super curious lifeform that is very interested in things other than itself,Quote from: PrometheusFire on Dec 29, 2011, 06:15:59 AMNo it was the cat... uh actually that could be possible... Well in any case the alien didn't seem to be in the mood to kill ripley and it killed parker because he attacked it. The alien seemed a bit curious. The alien probably just wanted to wine and dine Lambert a bit. Oh and the alien probably didn't have a handbook on human anatomy either and merely stuck that tail up the wrong hole.Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 06:09:00 AMI dont think the crew had a handbook on alien species, if they didnot go looking for it, it would have gotten them as it has a big need to breed, it wasnt searching in airvents that got bret ,lambert and parker killed was it? It seeked them out i thought???Quote from: PrometheusFire on Dec 29, 2011, 05:54:39 AMExactly. All the nostromo crew needed to do was to chill out and wait for it to die all by itself. Instead of hunting the thing down which pretty much got themselves all killed.Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 05:43:17 AMConvulated? Yeah like a butterfly
The short lifespan is a convoluted idea. That would make the alien no better than "the happening" lol.
Holy shit maybe Ash was trying to protect the crew all along... :o
Just saying.
Quote from: appleguy on Dec 29, 2011, 12:13:38 PM
This is awesome.
The original Alien Prometheus style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6SUTI1j9M#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6SUTI1j9M#ws)
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 29, 2011, 07:53:13 PMThere's some smoke or kicked up dust to one side of it and, looking at some of the shots of the crew running away, there's nothing to say it's not rolling.
Quote from: appleguy on Dec 29, 2011, 12:13:38 PM
This is awesome.
The original Alien Prometheus style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6SUTI1j9M#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ6SUTI1j9M#ws)
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 06:26:43 AMQuote from: PrometheusFire on Dec 29, 2011, 06:15:59 AMNo it was the cat... uh actually that could be possible... Well in any case the alien didn't seem to be in the mood to kill ripley and it killed parker because he attacked it. The alien seemed a bit curious. The alien probably just wanted to wine and dine Lambert a bit. Oh and the alien probably didn't have a handbook on human anatomy either and merely stuck that tail up the wrong hole.Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 06:09:00 AMI dont think the crew had a handbook on alien species, if they didnot go looking for it, it would have gotten them as it has a big need to breed, it wasnt searching in airvents that got bret ,lambert and parker killed was it? It seeked them out i thought???Quote from: PrometheusFire on Dec 29, 2011, 05:54:39 AMExactly. All the nostromo crew needed to do was to chill out and wait for it to die all by itself. Instead of hunting the thing down which pretty much got themselves all killed.Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 29, 2011, 05:43:17 AMConvulated? Yeah like a butterfly
The short lifespan is a convoluted idea. That would make the alien no better than "the happening" lol.
Holy shit maybe Ash was trying to protect the crew all along... :o
Just saying.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Dec 29, 2011, 07:53:13 PMI'm maybe wrong but I think is making a rotation at his base or is turning. There is a long track in the ground at his back. I don't think is rolling. I don't know.
In other news, I'm starting to think that it's not so much that the ship/building topples over or lowers itself, as that it's rolling across the landscape like a giant wagon wheel...
There's some smoke or kicked up dust to one side of it and, looking at some of the shots of the crew running away, there's nothing to say it's not rolling.
Quote from: Some Mothers Do Have Em! on Dec 30, 2011, 01:07:20 AMThere are 4 more sentences before the second was so wrong part. Does sound like he/it's coming and something about stopping.
"I was wrong..it was so wrong...and I'm so sorry."
Quote from: Some Mothers Do Have Em! on Dec 30, 2011, 01:37:07 AM
IMO it sounds like a womans voice talking seductively. Maybe around the sex scene time. Perhaps it's the robot getting urged into his first root by whoever it is talking.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 30, 2011, 10:56:17 AM
The ship we see seems way too small for intergalactic travel. It also seems to be able to land on ground just fine. So why would they even need the Magellan? The UFO we see in the trailer could in fact be Prometheus.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Dec 30, 2011, 11:50:55 AMWhy can't the UFO be man made?Quote from: whiterabbit on Dec 30, 2011, 10:56:17 AM
The ship we see seems way too small for intergalactic travel. It also seems to be able to land on ground just fine. So why would they even need the Magellan? The UFO we see in the trailer could in fact be Prometheus.
We already know that the human ship is called Prometheus.
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Dec 30, 2011, 02:15:35 PM
I would be surprised if the round UFO was of human origin. You can see some markings or writing on the bottom if you take a 1080P resolution image of the saucer and play around with the brightness/contrast. Those markings don't really scream human to me. Just my opinion though. I have a feeling I'll be wrong about a great many assumptions I've made ;)
Quote from: Jaszczur123 on Dec 30, 2011, 04:59:50 PM
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See? Looks like earth
Quote from: Jaszczur123 on Dec 30, 2011, 04:59:50 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg689.imageshack.us%2Fimg689%2F5703%2Fvlcsnap2011122211h12m38.png&hash=5f59fb9ebd69d8b7aaa9e1af8854fa1db428181e)
See? Looks like earth
Quote from: Jaszczur123 on Dec 30, 2011, 04:59:50 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg689.imageshack.us%2Fimg689%2F5703%2Fvlcsnap2011122211h12m38.png&hash=5f59fb9ebd69d8b7aaa9e1af8854fa1db428181e)
See? Looks like earth
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 23, 2011, 06:01:26 PM
Next we have a shot of Noomi Rapace in a lot of pain. This is where the shot of her stomach enlarging would be I assume. She gives birth to something and survives.
Quote from: Glaive on Dec 30, 2011, 06:42:22 PM
WTF?????
...she didn't get raped in either 'Played with Fire', 'Hornet's Nest', 'Game of Shadows'; and I'm curious how you KNOW what happens in 'Prometheus'..."OBVIOUSLY"??
...weirdo.
Quote from: Glaive on Dec 30, 2011, 07:18:57 PM
What?
You mean like the " 'alien-tail' going between Brett's legs ...but it's edited to look like Lambert's being raped, so we'll just grin and go along with it??" kinda thing?
Well, carry on!!
Quote from: Glaive on Dec 30, 2011, 07:31:40 PM
"There's subtle clues in the trailer that she does get assaulted."
Guess they're REALLY subtle, then.
Quote from: Glaive on Dec 30, 2011, 07:40:02 PM
How do you know these aren't the consequences of pre-ALIEN hypersleep?
...or have you seen Fassbender in ''Shame''?
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Dec 30, 2011, 07:26:35 PMBy the authors? Not that I know of. Ridley Scott never said a word on the matter, and instead always had the intention of having Lambert dying of fear.
Bro, I'm talking about Prometheus, not Alien. Besides was it ever explicity stated that the Xeno actually "raped" Lambert?
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Dec 30, 2011, 07:53:13 PMQuote from: KirklandSignature on Dec 30, 2011, 07:26:35 PMBy the authors? Not that I know of. Ridley Scott never said a word on the matter, and instead always had the intention of having Lambert dying of fear.
Bro, I'm talking about Prometheus, not Alien. Besides was it ever explicity stated that the Xeno actually "raped" Lambert?
Quote from: deuterium on Dec 30, 2011, 09:01:26 PMClickity (http://alienseries.blogspot.com/2011/03/principle-players-cast-character.html). Go to the Lambert section.
Huh?? Did Ridley Scott ever say this somewhere ????
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Dec 30, 2011, 09:12:59 PMQuote from: deuterium on Dec 30, 2011, 09:01:26 PMClickity (http://alienseries.blogspot.com/2011/03/principle-players-cast-character.html). Go to the Lambert section.
Huh?? Did Ridley Scott ever say this somewhere ????
QuoteIn a separate interview with Danny Peary, Scott said: 'You'd probably die before the thing touched you anyway. I mean, you'd have a heart attack, right? You'd turn and see it and last about four seconds before you had a coronary, okay.'
Quote from: deuterium on Dec 30, 2011, 09:30:46 PMQuote from: OmegaZilla on Dec 30, 2011, 09:12:59 PMQuote from: deuterium on Dec 30, 2011, 09:01:26 PMClickity (http://alienseries.blogspot.com/2011/03/principle-players-cast-character.html). Go to the Lambert section.
Huh?? Did Ridley Scott ever say this somewhere ????
LOL. Well I be dipped in butter! Excuse me, there is a plate of crow waiting for me in my fridge. ;D
This now constitutes the THIRD time that Ridley has flummoxed and flabergasted me.
The first is when I learned he always intended.Spoiler
Decker to be a replicant[close]
The second is when I heard about his whole idea with regards to the Space Jockey being a "guy in a suit" concept.
And now I learn that in Ridley's imagination/universe, Lambert's death is due to fright induced heart attack. C'mon...I mean does that actually happen in real life. I mean, I would love to see an official Coroner's report for Cause of Death ==> Severe Fright. Doesn't say much to our Evolutionary adaptation of the "Fight or Flight" response to threats. I don't think Homo sapiens, as a species, would have gotten very far if every time we saw a lion or tiger or bear, we instantly keeled over.
Although, in my half-hearted defense, Ridley's comments (from that site) could be construed as just him being rather "cheeky". I mean it is possible he was being rather "tongue and cheek" with those comments, and that he didn't intend on being taken literally.
I mean, seriously, can't you see him having a little bit of fun, when saying something like this:QuoteIn a separate interview with Danny Peary, Scott said: 'You'd probably die before the thing touched you anyway. I mean, you'd have a heart attack, right? You'd turn and see it and last about four seconds before you had a coronary, okay.'
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 30, 2011, 09:40:29 PM
i'll just leave this here for you...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=scared-to-death-heart-attack (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=scared-to-death-heart-attack)
thanks
rich
Quote from: deuterium on Dec 30, 2011, 10:28:41 PMQuote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Dec 30, 2011, 09:40:29 PM
i'll just leave this here for you...
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=scared-to-death-heart-attack (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=scared-to-death-heart-attack)
thanks
rich
Rich, the link isn't opening up for me. I suppose it must be confirmation that someone can indeed suffer a fear-induced heart attack. Yes, I am sure it can happen, but it certainly would be classified as "rare" or very uncommon, yes? Also, there is always the question of pre-existing condition contributing to the coronary...such as heart disease or genetic predisposition for stress induced arrythmia, such as Paroxysmal atrial fibrillation.
With that said, if an ALIEN jumped out of my closet right now, I probably would be that one in a million person who would drop dead from sheer fright. Such would be my luck. ;D
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 30, 2011, 11:25:06 PM
Fear induced heart attacks are actually fairly common, or, commonly reported...in a situation where you're dealing with an alien creature, I can't imagine any other scenario happening.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 30, 2011, 11:42:33 PM
What matters is that it's WAY within the confines of "can happen, has happened" so I think this is a moot point?
Quote from: deuterium on Dec 30, 2011, 11:35:13 PM
Link finally worked for me. Not sure what the problem was. Interesting article.
My only reservation/qualification in you last reply is "that it can happen to anyone". Well, yes, in the general sense that no one necessarily knows if they have won (or lost, maybe more appropriately) the genetic lottery, and just so happen to have certain genetic allele(s) that cause the adrenal glands to over-produce epinephrine...at levels enough to put the heart into a deadly arrythmia. I mean, getting struck by lightning "can happen to anyone", as well.
Look these reports are rare, and many times anecdotal. While the MD's can explain the causitive chain of physiological events that could trigger such an episode for a person who is genetically predisposed, I don't think there is any peer-reviewed studies into this phenomena, nor real statistics. And since the general news isn't replete with reports of ordinary people falling dead in their tracks after witnessing and/or experiencing incredibly stressful or frightning situations, I think we can file this away as "possible, but extremely, extremely rare".
Quote from: deuterium on Dec 30, 2011, 11:51:37 PMQuote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 30, 2011, 11:25:06 PM
Fear induced heart attacks are actually fairly common, or, commonly reported...in a situation where you're dealing with an alien creature, I can't imagine any other scenario happening.
Look I realize we are getting off topic, but sometimes a lot of interesting shit is discussed when things go off on a tangent. This is a case in point. Heck, that is why I love this forum/site. We can be talking about one thing one moment, and someone brings up something interesting or intriguing, and then things veer off on a new tangent. Never a dull moment.
Anyways, just playing "devils advocate" here. It is funny to imagine dropping dead from sheer terror at being suddenly confronted by an Alien. I mean, it is nightmare fuel, after all. But with that said, it didn't happen to Brett, it didn't happen to Dallas, it didn't happen to Parker, it didn't happen to Ripley. Yet somehow, Ridley Scott titillates us with reported comments that it probably happened to Lambert. And if it could happen to anyone, I guess it would be Lambert. She was already reeling on the edge of a full blown panic attack through most of the movie.
Anyways, like I said, interesting to discuss, in any event.Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Dec 30, 2011, 11:42:33 PM
What matters is that it's WAY within the confines of "can happen, has happened" so I think this is a moot point?
I guess that is my cue to get back on topic. Point taken. :(
Quote from: Glaive on Dec 31, 2011, 03:54:11 PM
I think death by fright is a fairly common thing; at least in the animal kingdom ...well maybe 'fright' isn't the right word, watch ANY leopard chasing gazelle scene...when the gazelle is in the leopard's jaws, mostly, it's dead.
True, some struggle for a time, but I believe that there's a ''GAME OVER'' switch in most mammals brains, to stop the inevitable 'eaten-alive' scenario...
Quote from: Effectz on Dec 31, 2011, 04:35:25 PMQuote from: Glaive on Dec 31, 2011, 03:54:11 PM
I think death by fright is a fairly common thing; at least in the animal kingdom ...well maybe 'fright' isn't the right word, watch ANY leopard chasing gazelle scene...when the gazelle is in the leopard's jaws, mostly, it's dead.
True, some struggle for a time, but I believe that there's a ''GAME OVER'' switch in most mammals brains, to stop the inevitable 'eaten-alive' scenario...
Actually the game over switch for a Gazelle is when the leopard severs it's spinal cord with its canines.It is designed to ''dispatch''animals quickly,something it has evolved over millions of years.There is no ''GAME OVER' switch as you call it,every animal has a built in survival mechanism and will try to live,it doesnt just throw in the towel.
However,Dying of fright and shock are two different things.
Quote from: Glaive on Dec 31, 2011, 05:07:58 PMQuote from: Effectz on Dec 31, 2011, 04:35:25 PMQuote from: Glaive on Dec 31, 2011, 03:54:11 PM
I think death by fright is a fairly common thing; at least in the animal kingdom ...well maybe 'fright' isn't the right word, watch ANY leopard chasing gazelle scene...when the gazelle is in the leopard's jaws, mostly, it's dead.
True, some struggle for a time, but I believe that there's a ''GAME OVER'' switch in most mammals brains, to stop the inevitable 'eaten-alive' scenario...
Actually the game over switch for a Gazelle is when the leopard severs it's spinal cord with its canines.It is designed to ''dispatch''animals quickly,something it has evolved over millions of years.There is no ''GAME OVER' switch as you call it,every animal has a built in survival mechanism and will try to live,it doesnt just throw in the towel.
However,Dying of fright and shock are two different things.
Not to be pedantic, but it's more suffocation, than spine-severance...hence the 'switch'...there comes a point where prey STOPS living that has NOTHING to do with predator.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Jan 01, 2012, 02:21:28 AM
I think the way the Prometheus trailer has been cut would be just as effective for an unknowing audience as the original Alien trailer would be for an unknowing audience in 1979. The fanboys and girls may geek out about what we know, but that's just an unexpected bonus of the genetic crossing....err, I mean, that would only be a side effect. The trailer was made in a way so that it gets peoples interest without depending upon their viewing of Alien.