We have just received three new exclusive images of mutant Fifield courtesy of Blu-ray.com forum user CRS. These new stills come from the alternate scene “Fifield Attacks” (2:14 min) that is featured in the Blu-ray release of Prometheus. CRS has also sent us an extra still from the alternate opening of the film “Arrival of the Engineers” (2:41 min). You can see all new images after the cut.
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Was there indication given to why this version of Fifield was cut? Did it look too goofy or something?
Quote from: newbeing on Sep 28, 2012, 02:12:31 AM
Was there indication given to why this version of Fifield was cut? Did it look too goofy or something?
Ridley didn't like it and wanted to change it.
Cool pics, by the way!
Quote from: newbeing on Sep 28, 2012, 02:12:31 AM
Was there indication given to why this version of Fifield was cut? Did it look too goofy or something?
I believe it was because they thought the audience wouldn't know who it was, and goofy? This thing is amazing! I realy hope Neca makes a figure of this, it's just too perfect, the way he looks like the missing link between alien and human is too awesome to not have as a figure :D
Damon Lindelof said something in the commentary about Ridley having shot two versions of the Fifield attack
in one: Shaw is the one that kills Fifield with the vehicle. It's right before Weyland leaves Prometheus
in another: Janek is the one that handles the problem in the hangar. This ended up being the one in the movie, because it builds up the character of Janek and sets him up for a sacrifice.
Guess the two different versions had different creature designs as well?
I thought Janek and Chance ended up killing Fifield off, after Shaw runs him over; Shaw being the one who does the driving instead of a random merc being the difference. Really, the only difference was the creature they were shooting. That vehicle meant for Weyland and co. still drives off into the distance when they're killing the theatrical creature.
THAT LOOKS BAD ASS! But i'm glad they took that out.
In terms of design, it would had been more scary if his helmet glass became almost opaque with the whatever it is that got him (the goo) and all that was visible was his jaws and teeth. But that would make him too much like the necronomicon gemini thing with the penis tongue.
Quick! Play some Slim Whitman at him!!!
The shot with Alien Fifield killing the guy looks fake as shit. I like the design but I can see why they cut it, as I could before; some people might laugh at it.
I did know there was a version where Shaw ran him down - it was shown in the trailers, with her pulling the throttle - and I wouldn't mind seeing that, but it's likely that was cut because perhaps she seemed too kickass so soon after her operation.
Stills of CGI things in the middle of fast movement rarely look anywhere near as good as they should. Probably looks a hell of a lot better when it's actually moving.
Why oh why did we not see this version...
Quote from: samoht on Sep 28, 2012, 05:07:27 AM
Why oh why did we not see this version...
Probably because it looks a bit too much The Lord of the Rings like...
Ordinary mutant Fifield is looking better every day. I can see why they choose to go with that cut.
its recognizable, there are his tattoos, and the conversation before that between the bridge and the hangar gives u an answer if u wouldnt know who is the mutant, remember? "Hangar crew, this is the bridge! Fifield monitor is just popped in...."
and yes, i belive Janek and Chance kill him in both version, only changes that Shaw, Weyland and his bodyguards enter the hangar during the fight, maybe they run to the apc , one of them gets killed by the axe and Shaw drives over Fifield, then the pilots kill him.....and what would build up to Janek's sacrafice is the extended scene with the x-mas tree, where he says first "im just flight the ship"...thats why Shaw mention that in her room to Janek in the end
They changed the sene because they wanted to give Janek something to do, and this alternate one would have ruined the pacing and mood or order of the scene with the weyland reveal. Ridley shot these 2 scenes knowing from the start one is for the shorter movie version and pg13 and the other for the full length. I didn't listen to the whole ridley commentary but i don't think the design of Firfield was a problem
Quote from: zuzuki on Sep 28, 2012, 01:11:22 PM
They changed the sene because they wanted to give Janek something to do, and this alternate one would have ruined the pacing and mood or order of the scene with the weyland reveal. Ridley shot these 2 scenes knowing from the start one is for the shorter movie version and pg13 and the other for the full length. I didn't listen to the whole ridley commentary but i don't think the design of Firfield was a problem
so they didnt hear about the damn cut and edit the movie ability?
now they just left a plothole in it because 1 mercenary is just gone...
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Quote from: Xan21 on Sep 28, 2012, 02:17:55 PM
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quite like that, no.
lets just face it, it was cut with other bits to give fans a reason to keep buying release after release of the movie. its a money making strategy they have been milking for years. they know we go crazy for deleted/alternate stuff.
Quote from: kittychu6 on Sep 28, 2012, 11:35:19 PM
lets just face it, it was cut with other bits to give fans a reason to keep buying release after release of the movie. its a money making strategy they have been milking for years. they know we go crazy for deleted/alternate stuff.
Or you could just refuse to play that game not buy this release at all. I'm not interested in Prometheus until a director's cut come out.
I don't think there are many people that prefer the theatrical release of Blade Runner to the final cut that was released a few years ago. With that in mind, its true that having patience is the sort of thing that would demand FOX to release a better version sooner. The reason we get crap first is because nobody knows how to vote with their wallet anymore.
blessed be the internet.
Quote from: Ash 937 on Sep 28, 2012, 11:40:40 PM
Quote from: kittychu6 on Sep 28, 2012, 11:35:19 PM
lets just face it, it was cut with other bits to give fans a reason to keep buying release after release of the movie. its a money making strategy they have been milking for years. they know we go crazy for deleted/alternate stuff.
Or you could just refuse to play that game not buy this release at all. I'm not interested in Prometheus until a director's cut come out.
I don't think there are many people that prefer the theatrical release of Blade Runner to the final cut that was released a few years ago. With that in mind, its true that having patience is the sort of thing that would demand FOX to release a better version sooner. The reason we get crap first is because nobody knows how to vote with their wallet anymore.
Bladerunner was a brilliant movie way before any directors cut came out. One can argue that it never needed another cut (regardless of whether it improved it or not). If you don't like Prometheus now, you won't like any future version of it unless your criticisms can be fixed with a couple of tweaks. Holding out for a directors cut is simply inadvertently creating a market for such things.
just saw that deleted scene of the Fifield cgi,
it was terrible!!
pfff just another cgi hater
Quote from: HUGZZ on Sep 28, 2012, 02:20:11 AM
I believe it was because they thought the audience wouldn't know who it was,
Audience was already batshit crazy thinking about WTF does this all mean by this point. I don't think that could be a valid answer surely.
Quote from: Xan21 on Sep 29, 2012, 03:20:44 PM
pfff just another cgi hater
The Fifield zombie was awesome and had a disgusting look. the cgi Fifield had nothing it looked fake and it moved fake. Its like Star Wars the stormtroopers look awesome and when you watch the new Star wars you see the clones and they all move lame and are all cgi. im more of a fan of the old school stuff.
Quote from: kittychu6 on Sep 28, 2012, 11:35:19 PM
lets just face it, it was cut with other bits to give fans a reason to keep buying release after release of the movie. its a money making strategy they have been milking for years. they know we go crazy for deleted/alternate stuff.
You know, bet that's precisely what Riddles said when cutting the flick.
Boy you sure done rumbled him...
Quote from: SM on Sep 29, 2012, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: kittychu6 on Sep 28, 2012, 11:35:19 PM
lets just face it, it was cut with other bits to give fans a reason to keep buying release after release of the movie. its a money making strategy they have been milking for years. they know we go crazy for deleted/alternate stuff.
You know, bet that's precisely what Riddles said when cutting the flick.
Boy you sure done rumbled him...
I still think it has to do with the maximum of 2 hours thing.
They should have made mutant Fifield act more monkey like than barbarian.
It disappoints me this was cut, I actually really hated the one used in the final cut, it felt like a super zombie or something. This version of Fifield was more bizarre, more alien.
the cgi is not the best...but in the final cut its just a....zombie...u know Ridley Scott...after with Alien, with Giger he came up with a ZOMBIE!
Quote from: szkoki on Sep 30, 2012, 08:05:13 PM
in the final cut its just a....zombie...(...) he came up with a ZOMBIE!
Yeah. And CGI version looks like some mutant. It's way better, it's real creepy.
I know that CGI sucks in some parts but it fits WAY BETTER than original.
it got cut because it was to far in the evolution. To early in stage to resemble an alien xeno.
Quote from: Spoon on Oct 01, 2012, 12:27:50 PMit got cut because it was to far in the evolution. To early in stage to resemble an alien xeno.
Remember though that those tiny meal worms became super-strong, acid-bleeding, face-raping hammerpedes in even less time.
Evolution? Bah.
if you synch 'Cockroach Attack' from the soundtrack to Damnation Alley by Jerry Goldsmith to the CGI Fifield attack it works pretty well and has that weird discordant ALIEN soundtrack feel. I mean it's only proper to pinch an earlier Goldsmith track, it's tradition.
Just an observation. You can probably get the soundtrack from Itunes or MP3Panda if you're interested in trying it.
There are many of these new stills with Fifield and Holloway where you can clearly see some Alien mutating-action going on, ribbed muscle sections and all.
Hi !
I have a question about the chronology of this scene. In the final cut, it is before the Weyland's awakening, but there is a problem, because several person who were killed are with Weyland... How justify this, to keep it canon and logic ?
Thank's :)
You can't really. You can have guys surviving the attack, but they got forgotten when Janek kamikazes the ship.
Yes but can we say that it is just a strategy to keep the rhythm in the film, can we rely on the script only ?
Ridley preferred the films pacing with the scene changed from the script (and originally shot footage).