Was the premise of AVP good and would you like to see it revisited?

Started by solace97, Jan 31, 2025, 08:17:40 PM

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Was the premise of AVP good and would you like to see it revisited? (Read 1,702 times)

Nightmare Asylum

Predators is pretty much a total nothing of a movie, but to give a bit of credit where credit is due, I do think it pulled off a begrudging human/Predator team up better than AVP did.

solace97

This is true. I forgot about that. And I did like seeing how that was pulled off. And I liked how classic choked Royce before being like, f**k it I'll help this human out after what they did to me.

Similar vibes to pulp fiction where bruce Willis helps marcellus "we don't talk about this shit to no one"

Samhain13

Just needed to be set on future on another planet.

Nightmare Asylum

Badlands shall usher than in. 8)

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Quote from: SiL on Jan 31, 2025, 10:49:54 PMAnd by Predator look we mean the interior of the ship in Predator 2 right

With its warm ethereal glow that everyone has been too artless to bring back

I wish that was the case, those classic films had an ambient atmosphere that established itself within the science fiction film genre as a whole. While we are at it, if Trachtenberg was to bring that design and feel back I would enjoy seeing an updated trophy case as seen in the P2 Predator ship.

xenotaris

The problem wasn't a human-yautja team up, the problem was with AVP'04 was that the human-yautja team up was forced and didn't develop organically like in the first AVP comic and its novelization.

The Cruentus

I would understand if it was merely a truce, she gives him the gun and he lets her live, perhaps that should have been it for that first encounter but instead just after one kill (one essentially the Alien did to itself no less), he lets her tag along.

It wouldn't be so bad if there was another scene to justify it. Maybe she secretly followed him and he got into some trouble and she saved his life, which proves her usefulness to him. Now there is more of a reason to allow her to tag along.

SiL

The first draft of the script did a lot more to justify it.

First Scar sees her kill a facehugger while hanging off the edge of the gap she and Sebastian tried to jump over.

Then she kills the Alien when they meet up.

Then they're set upon by a bunch of Aliens. Scar gives her the improvised weapons and armour and she kills another Alien.

Then they team up.

Also, Scar doesn't get his gun. Lex isn't carrying one, so he can't just blast his way out of the pyramid like he does in the movie. He actually kind of needs an extra set of hands to survive at that point.

The Cruentus

That would have been so much better and tense too since the predator can't just spam a plasma caster to get out. Every encounter would mean acid blood to deal with, since baring shuriken and throwing spears, CQC would be only what he could rely on.

SiL

In theory yes but in practice Anderson had Lex stab an Alien to death with a knife made from an Alien tail, so in some ways, we dodged a bullet.

happypred

Surely the Antarctic pyramid idea did't help save budget?

A space station or some outpost on a frontier planet would not have cost more to realise?

Other than the dagger, spear and shuriken being immune to acid (while the chest armor, wristblades and razor net melt like butter)...which raises the question: if you're going to use a non-acid-resistant net against xenomorphs, why would you make it capable of cutting into xenomorph carapace?


...but other than all the above, the biggest logical anomaly was that in the final film, Scar, Celtic and Chopper were supposed to obtain their high-powered shoulder-cannons before their hunt started, no? Where is the challenge in that. You could argue items of gear that melted easily to acid provided the challenge...but if all three Initiates can just triple-blast their way through the pyramid, this is a strangely conceived Rite of Passage/Manhood Ritual.

SM

Anderson shot it in Czechoslovakia to save money and space station probably wouldn't have cost much more. But Davis wanted it set on Earth.

Prez

Just give us an AVP film with no humans or at least where the humans are not the focal point but just in the background.

Or if you're gonna do the same premise as the original AVP set it in the past in some ancient (Mayan/Aztec) civilisation. Like merging Gibson's Apocalypto with Predators and Aliens.

Samhain13


xenotaris

Quote from: Prez on Mar 31, 2025, 11:21:32 AMJust give us an AVP film with no humans or at least where the humans are not the focal point but just in the background.

Or if you're gonna do the same premise as the original AVP set it in the past in some ancient (Mayan/Aztec) civilisation. Like merging Gibson's Apocalypto with Predators and Aliens.

But the "original AVP" wasn't set in the past it was set in the future like around after ALIEN 3 but before ALIEN RESURRECTION.

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