Marvel Announces Predator vs. Black Panther Series!

[RakaiThwei]

Concrete Jungle has several Predators killed in a gunfight.

I remember, I have the comic, it's boxed up somewhere but I have it.

Also Predators were able to dodge bullets, if they saw them coming. Hell, in AVP: Thrill of the Hunt, the Young Blood Predator was running towards gatling firing and dodged most of the rounds taking only one in the shoulder as he was going towards it.

Comic book feats are weird.

[Mr.Turok]

Also Predators were able to dodge bullets, if they saw them coming. Hell, in AVP: Thrill of the Hunt, the Young Blood Predator was running towards gatling firing and dodged most of the rounds taking only one in the shoulder as he was going towards it.

Comic book feats are weird.

JH was dodging minigun fire in the first film. They can shoot fast as 2,850 feet per second and there were enough rounds to make a clearing in that jungle. There is no way one any human can dodge that in a few yards, and even he was grazed despite successfully escaping.

Crossovers generally aren't canon. There are a few exceptions though but this one ain't one of them.

I guess he wants to treat it as soft canon, which doesn't seem to contradict anything before so I guess its there for those who want it:

io9: When writing a story about characters that originated in a movie series like Predator, do you have to adhere to any canon? If so, who do you talk to about that and if not, is there any limit in terms of character or mythology you put on yourself?

Percy: Those who read Predator vs. Wolverine will know that I adhered to canon in a dancing-between-the-raindrops kind of way. Is it officially canon? I honestly don't know. But I'm treating it like it is, because I want people to feel like the story matters, like the Yautja have been in the 616 all along, hunting.

[SiL]

JH was dodging minigun fire in the first film. They can shoot fast as 2,850 feet per second and there were enough rounds to make a clearing in that jungle. There is no way one any human can dodge that in a few yards, and even he was grazed despite successfully escaping.

Jungle Hunter was shot through the leg by Mac's M50 and was long gone when the minigun was deployed. He was also probably in the trees; all the soldiers are shooting at ground level.

[Mr.Turok]

JH was dodging minigun fire in the first film. They can shoot fast as 2,850 feet per second and there were enough rounds to make a clearing in that jungle. There is no way one any human can dodge that in a few yards, and even he was grazed despite successfully escaping.

Jungle Hunter was shot through the leg by Mac's M50 and was long gone when the minigun was deployed. He was also probably in the trees; all the soldiers are shooting at ground level.

Oh yeah, that's right! Regardless, dodging bullets from a mere few yards away is still something.

[SiL]

Oh yeah, that's right! Regardless, dodging bullets from a mere few yards away is still something.

But he didn't doge bullets. He got hit while running and the commandos were just missing.

[happypred]

Predator "power level" vary

They're an alien race, not one individual

On top of that, they've been handled by different writers over decades

One of the weakest portrayals is probably Falconer getting mutual-killed against the Yakuza man in Predators

Some of the strongest portrayals are in some of the novels and comics (and sometimes specific to certain predator individuals), where they display at least high-level aim-dodging against modern human firearms and it's implied you need to spray them with depleted uranium rounds to put them down effectively.

A writer could easily low ball or high ball the predators' power level to fit the story, or do something in between like have an elite predator performing on a much higher level than novice or average preds. To some extent, you could adjust the aliens' power level similarly.

[RakaiThwei]

Some of the strongest portrayals are in some of the novels and comics (and sometimes specific to certain predator individuals), where they display at least high-level aim-dodging against modern human firearms and it's implied you need to spray them with depleted uranium rounds to put them down effectively.

I don't agree when people say that they're aim dodging. If anything, John Schaefer, who has had multiple encounters with them has stated and this might be verbatim: "Those things are fast enough to dodge bullets, if they see them coming, and even if you hit them, they're damn near bullet proof."

There's quite a few instances in the comics, and even the novels where they've dodged bullets after they've been fired. One which comes to mind is Cold War, and they've even been stated to be fast enough to attack faster than the human eye can comprehend.

South China Sea (which I haven't even read) had the CRAZIEST Predator but I found this in a Predator Feats thread elsewhere.

"Although the creature's reflexes were so freakishly fast that Gustat doubted it, not without a headshot sans helmet."

A writer could easily low ball or high ball the predators' power level to fit the story, or do something in between like have an elite predator performing on a much higher level than novice or average preds. To some extent, you could adjust the aliens' power level similarly.

Sounds about right.

[Mr.Turok]

Issue #2


https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/116725/predator_vs_black_panther_2024_2

THE ULTIMATE HUNTING PRESERVE: WAKANDA! Yautja stalk the jungles of one of the most isolated - and wealthy - nations on Earth. Wakanda's War Dogs, the Hatut Zeraze, fall like wheat. The Dora Milaje bury those bodies with their own. Princess Shuri is trapped out of reach. And the Black Panther finds his country invaded not by the warmongering West - but by monsters from beyond the stars. The fiercest hunters in the known universe - versus a king who might just be beast enough to stop them.

An all out invasion? Hhhhhhmmmm this could be interesting, but after what The Predator inferred about an invasion plotline last time, it soured the taste for me.

[BigChapismyBestFriend]

Making the Predator a alien invader... yay...

[Mr.Turok]

Some new covers for the first issue:





Including some new pages: SPOILERS

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[RakaiThwei]

Ummm...

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Did that one Predator get his hands on some fuggin' Vibranium in that one panel?!

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[Mr.Turok]

Ummm...

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Did that one Predator get his hands on some fuggin' Vibranium in that one panel?!

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Seems like it yeah.

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I do want to see how a Predator would appropriate the use of Vibranium. Fun stuff can come out of it. That and hopefully have a recurring Predator character, as a vibranium equipped Predator would be very unique character of it's own.

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[happypred]

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This looks like there is some Renegade vs. Enforcer action going on, with team tattoos vs. team spikey helmets (at least on an aesthetic level).

@RakaiThwei
As for proper bullet-dodging, it can definitely be read that way in the novels. Thats why I said "at least" high-level/consistent aim-dodging

[RakaiThwei]

So the comic came out today, and from what I've managed to gleam... Ummm... Well... I uh...

How can I put this?

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...If Predator/AVP Yautja were terrifying as it is already, and this is strictly in canon...

Marvel Predators are on a whole other level of MONSTROUS. The worst thing to happen (and I mean this in a good way) to the Marvel universe is the introduction of the Predators. ESPECIALLY if they get their hands on Marvel's super metals. Which is what happens here...

And Black Panther is just EASILY KO'ed by a Yautja plasma caster?! FU-KING WOW!!!

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[Mr.Turok]

I personally think this issue's introduction is stronger than the Wolverine's crossover. Lots of promising starts I'd say. Love how this story has a theme of sibling dynamics between T'Challa/Shuri and the Predator Princes, how they feel about leading their respective peoples and the conflict that leads them to cross into one another. Can't wait to see more....now on to the spoilers:

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I am super invested in seeing where the smaller Prince is going in his plan to take Vibranium to even the score between his brother and father. That family business is straight up nasty, like the King straight up said to the smaller one how he ain't shit compared to his older brother and basically gave him the Vibranium spear he took from Earth decades ago to beat the smaller brother with. Nah, I'd get beyond rageful too at what basically was is a fixed end against the smaller Prince.

I also like that rare moment I see in Predator media of Predators having empathy for one another. The smaller Prince is a leader of his clan and not only wants the Vibranium to defeat his brother but also secure the safety of his clan. You'd see a small moment of him embracing a fellow clan member after freeing him from an alter, its a good enforcement of a hunter/warrior society rather than just beings that kill.

The plotline for the Wakandan royalty, T'Challa and Shuri takes on if their tech should be shared with the outside world is a nice balance to the political battle between the Predator brothers on who should rule over the new planet. One side discussing about how it can help or hinder Wakanda and the other side has their royal siblings fighting for who shall dominate. It's interesting to see family drama in a way that I never expected from this crossover and from Predators of all things. I dig this!

I got me a negative right here and I don't like the design of the Vibrainum spear at all, it looks way too big and too busy. It's not like the past spears where it looks good AND can be functionally used, but comically huge and over detailed. Wished they went back to the drawing board for that one.

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So the comic came out today, and from what I've managed to gleam... Ummm... Well... I uh...

How can I put this?

Spoiler

...If Predator/AVP Yautja were terrifying as it is already, and this is strictly in canon...

Marvel Predators are on a whole other level of MONSTROUS. The worst thing to happen (and I mean this in a good way) to the Marvel universe is the introduction of the Predators. ESPECIALLY if they get their hands on Marvel's super metals. Which is what happens here...

And Black Panther is just EASILY KO'ed by a Yautja plasma caster?! FU-KING WOW!!!

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I couldn't help but laugh at how they call Vibranium, "Godmetal", having no idea of all the other Marvel metals out there. My crab faced friend, if you think that's Godmetal, wait till you find out about Adamantium or even Mysterium.