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Author Topic: First Marvel Collection Revealed  (Read 12131 times)


Prez
Sep 07, 2020, 12:44:57 PM
Reply #271 on: Sep 07, 2020, 12:44:57 PM
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Ah, this barely affects me. It sucks because it affects everyone else I know and it's making life difficult for the shop, but we'll get there. We have to really. How's it going on your end?

Same old, same old.  The First Lady and I are fortunate that we have jobs that allow us to work from home, and I do not miss the commute at all, so it can go for a bit longer as far as I'm concerned.  However as you said, it's all the people who aren't as lucky as us who are being more affected and the wider knock on problems from that.

Hope you are otherwise well considering we'll be locked down a bit longer, yet.  :)
Hope you're all OK down there :( Just waiting for the idiots to sink QLD soon.

I dunno, you guys have open a lot longer than us and it seems like it's not getting out of control.  Be interesting to see what happens with the border restrictions with the election coming up.

Man us peeps in South Australia have got it pretty easy compared to other states (fairly relaxed across the board). Keeping tabs on my mates & relatives in Melbourne (some are doing ok, others not so good).

Stay safe my fellow Aussies.


razeak
Sep 09, 2020, 01:14:35 AM
Reply #272 on: Sep 09, 2020, 01:14:35 AM
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I hope he is compensated and leveraged it for work on Marvel Alien stuff.



Nostromo
Sep 09, 2020, 05:26:15 AM
Reply #274 on: Sep 09, 2020, 05:26:15 AM
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Disrespecting Tristan Jones, is disrespecting Aliens fans.  We love this guy!  Great artist!

This 1000%

Guy should have his own Alien series going.

Wow, haven't been here for months. Who's this Land dude, wtf? Marvel hired this jerk off? From his wikipedia page:


Plagiarism accusations

Land has been accused of going beyond the accepted bounds of photographic reference, lifting images from sources that include hardcore pornography, and copying them into his pages outright with minimal Photoshop alterations to make the work appear to be an original drawing, a reputation he developed from his work on Ultimate Fantastic Four and Ultimate Power. Land has agreed that he does employ photo reference to a large extent, and that he uses pornography as a source, but denies that the extent to which he does so is questionable. The A.V. Club included him in their 2009 list of "21 artists who changed mainstream comics (for better or worse)" for this reason.[1]

Commenting on Land's work on Uncanny X-Men #510, Brian Cronin of CBR.com remarked that the issue "possibly has the most harmful art to a story that I’ve seen in a comic," saying that Land's limited supply of poses and use of the same models for multiple characters "results in terrible art and particularly terrible storytelling."[2] He was also mocked for his limited use of facial expressions on the Thing.[3]

Land has also been accused of directly swiping art from other comics artists, and is considered "notorious" for tracing his art from other sources[4] to the point where some fans make a hobby of finding the original sources Land traced for his art.[5]

Land's art for Marvel's Aliens Omnibus was pointed out by artist Tristan Jones as containing direct copies of various pieces of Jones' own Aliens artwork.[4][6] Similarities were also found between elements of Land's cover and an Alien portrait by Andy Brase, a catalog photo of a sculpted Alien egg toy by NECA, and a screenshot from the Sega video game Aliens: Colonial Marines.[7][

Yeah thats terrible, fire this Land guy and get Tristan. What a disgrace, stealing from othe comic artists.

Looks like he forgot the inner jaw too.

HAhahahaha what did I say about marvel?! xD Shouldnt come as a surprise, afterall in their star wars comics a lot of the space designs are stolen from fans and traced/copied and the art is a let down after the first couple of comics:


This is just the start of things and you can guess how the stories will become. RIP Dark horse, this is one of many reasons Im sceptical about marvel doing aliens comics and will probably skip them and ignore them completely.

Note: Found out that their art they reuse for the collections and marvel releases wont give any money to the original artists or royalitys etc, Im so skipping marvel and sticking to getting my dark horse comics.

Wow, what a fkin embarassment. These morons basically kill off anything they buy...

Here's to the Marvel/Disney Stars Wars and Alien franchises:



Oh, that f**k is just f**king with us at this point

What's it? Being outraged fan never felt that good

Yea no sh!t lol



This a bad start for the alien marvel comics and marvel has a know history of letting stuff like this happening and I can tell worse stuff is coming

Ya think? After seeing this dumbasz dumbo shiet, i don't think I'll be going to the theaters to see Marvel or Disney movies even. To come out with the first issue in this fashion...Dumbo must be running things there.

Certainly Marvel deserves a chance to address this issue and take responsibility.
They havent for years with star wars, their avengers stuff, conan etc where they have done the same, and nothing said about the artist gets royalitys etc.

Have not much hope for marvel suddenly changing from what they´ve done for 5+ years xD

I know ay, I'm sitting here reading for the first time what they've been doing to Star Wars for 5  years, and than I'm reading the sheep saying let's give them a chance. Lmfao. HHHHoooo wer funked now Binshop.

Btw, that was one ugly mfkin Alien on that cover.

« Last Edit: Sep 09, 2020, 07:00:11 AM by Nostromo »

Kurai
Sep 10, 2020, 03:09:40 PM
Reply #275 on: Sep 10, 2020, 03:09:40 PM
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Wow, what a fkin embarassment. These morons basically kill off anything they buy...

Here's to the Marvel/Disney Stars Wars and Alien franchises:

Um... No.
It's a bad cover artist for an otherwise great collection.
The franchise will live.

« Last Edit: Sep 10, 2020, 04:06:19 PM by Kurai »

judge death
Sep 10, 2020, 06:28:41 PM
Reply #276 on: Sep 10, 2020, 06:28:41 PM
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Indeed as nostromo says, and marvel isnt new to this type of stealing but I have put prof and examples some pages back and some of the twitter announchments some days ago also deeps down into the rabbit hole of what marvel is doing.

But then again its to be expected as the white slavers: disney has once again got under the spotlight of treating their workers badly and even using concentration camp prisoners in the making of mulan movie....and reports from the lion king and how the production of star wars movies shows what we can expect from disney and marvel.

Cant say im feeling safe for what they will do with the alien franschise and so far theres only signs for the worse and reports of reboot of the alien franchise with new ripley and making aliens v2 movies....

And wouldnt call that collection great as its already released in dark horse collections besides countdown which is to me unknown comic that is easy to find on the web for those who want it that badly but it wont be an excuse for marvel in how they treat previous artists and what they are doing, for me.

« Last Edit: Sep 10, 2020, 06:30:31 PM by judge death »

Darwinsgirl
Sep 11, 2020, 06:29:42 PM
Reply #277 on: Sep 11, 2020, 06:29:42 PM
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I find it ironic in one sense. Walt Disney early on in his career created a comic character called Oswald the Rabbit (before Mickey Mouse). It became very popular at the time. Made someone lots of money.  He didn't own it even though he created it. After that experience he made sure he "owned" his creations. I would think he would side with Tristen Jones on this if he was still here. This is from memory so if I mixed up something apologies I didnt Google it. My memory is not as good as a computer's. :laugh:


Whiskeybrewer
Sep 13, 2020, 10:42:32 AM
Reply #278 on: Sep 13, 2020, 10:42:32 AM
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Oh now that's just low.

*Slow Claps* Well Done Greg Land *Slow Claps*

what a dick

Also im actually looking forward to reading the full version of Countdown.

Once they sort the omnibus cover of course

« Last Edit: Sep 13, 2020, 10:45:23 AM by Whiskeybrewer »

Kradan
Sep 13, 2020, 01:56:25 PM
Reply #279 on: Sep 13, 2020, 01:56:25 PM
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Oh now that's just low.

*Slow Claps* Well Done Greg Land *Slow Claps*

what a dick

Also im actually looking forward to reading the full version of Countdown.

Once they sort the omnibus cover of course

I'm willing to bet they won't. From what I've heard Land was caught before by Marvel fans and I'd guess that Marvel comic fanbase is much larger and NOISER than Alien's


I find it ironic in one sense. Walt Disney early on in his career created a comic character called Oswald the Rabbit (before Mickey Mouse). It became very popular at the time. Made someone lots of money.  He didn't own it even though he created it. After that experience he made sure he "owned" his creations. I would think he would side with Tristen Jones on this if he was still here. This is from memory so if I mixed up something apologies I didnt Google it. My memory is not as good as a computer's. :laugh:

Ironic indeed. I don't think the old man imagined what his company would become

« Last Edit: Sep 13, 2020, 02:00:10 PM by Kradan »

SuperiorIronman
Sep 13, 2020, 03:40:36 PM
Reply #280 on: Sep 13, 2020, 03:40:36 PM
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While I can't say for certain, apparently Land was in some trouble about this before but was protected by Joe Quesada. So prior leadership being what it was led to him sticking around.


Russ840
Sep 14, 2020, 05:29:49 PM
Reply #281 on: Sep 14, 2020, 05:29:49 PM
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Can be pre ordered on Amazon now.

Expensive at the moment though and also the cover is wrong. So be careful as I guarantee that will change soon and you may end up with that awful Land cover.  Like i have said before, Amazon don’t get the DM variants. 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1302928155/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

« Last Edit: Sep 16, 2020, 09:05:59 PM by Russ840 »

Perfect-Organism
Sep 14, 2020, 06:51:09 PM
Reply #282 on: Sep 14, 2020, 06:51:09 PM
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I have to say, this will not be comfortable reading.  I’ve read several Marvel Omniby and while there is a sense of majesty in holding such a big book, there is really no ergonomically fun way to read these.

...and if there are no changes to the cover, this discomfort will be overshadowed by the weight of conscience on the chest...  ;)


judge death
Sep 14, 2020, 09:29:43 PM
Reply #283 on: Sep 14, 2020, 09:29:43 PM
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Hopefully this will be what most fans will do xD


But as I see many will buy the marvel collection I doubt it, but the alien franschise was its best at dark horse and as they say: they kept the franschise alive on their own and not treating it like Marvel do or the past artists and how they behave as a corporation.


Rambo
Sep 14, 2020, 10:32:56 PM
Reply #284 on: Sep 14, 2020, 10:32:56 PM
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Well up to this point the franchise has only been Dark Horse, so it might be a little early to compare a month of Marvel to 30 years of DH. I'll always be biased for DH, but their handling of the series was not always great and there were a lot of cheap pursuits of money and poor production for long stretches.

After Berserker from 1995 to 1999 they couldn't even muster up a four-part series, just mediocre 2 and 3-parters and nine one-shots. After Destroying Angels they had four years of low-quality crossovers 1999-2003 (Green Lantern, Superman II, Judge Dredd II, Batman II). Followed up by 6 years of no content whatsoever 2003-2009. I love where DH was going the past few years with unproduced screenplays and tie-ins to the originals, and I trusted them more than Marvel, but it's too early to judge and it's certainly not impossible to do better than DH (even after this cover fiasco).


 

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