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Author Topic: First Marvel Collection Revealed  (Read 13428 times)

HuDaFuK
Sep 04, 2020, 09:52:37 AM
Reply #240 on: Sep 04, 2020, 09:52:37 AM
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Hi.  I told you couple of weeks ago ...." They will kill it ".... They did
What a shame .....

They haven't killed it though.

Bullshit with the cover aside, this is still a pretty impressive collection featuring several stories Dark Horse were repeatedly asked to reprint but never did.


Russ840
Sep 04, 2020, 10:51:44 AM
Reply #241 on: Sep 04, 2020, 10:51:44 AM
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Yeah. I think that we need to give Marvel a chance to address this before we condemn them.

Everything so far, apart from the shit with this cover, I am happy with.



judge death
Sep 04, 2020, 01:27:04 PM
Reply #243 on: Sep 04, 2020, 01:27:04 PM
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Certainly Marvel deserves a chance to address this issue and take responsibility.
They havent for years with star wars, their avengers stuff, conan etc where they have done the same, and nothing said about the artist gets royalitys etc.

Have not much hope for marvel suddenly changing from what they´ve done for 5+ years xD


Kailem
Sep 04, 2020, 01:32:00 PM
Reply #244 on: Sep 04, 2020, 01:32:00 PM
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Certainly Marvel deserves a chance to address this issue and take responsibility.
They havent for years with star wars, their avengers stuff, conan etc where they have done the same, and nothing said about the artist gets royalitys etc.

Have not much hope for marvel suddenly changing from what they´ve done for 5+ years xD

Yup. They've been ignoring it for years, unfortunately. Though I'm not sure how often he's swiped directly from other artists before rather than just magazine covers and porno stars, so maybe that might help actually move the needle a little in this case.

But given the fact that they've so consistently turned a blind eye to his swiping despite how many times he's been called out about it, I'm not holding my breath that they're going to do anything about it this time either.


judge death
Sep 04, 2020, 01:36:35 PM
Reply #245 on: Sep 04, 2020, 01:36:35 PM
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Certainly Marvel deserves a chance to address this issue and take responsibility.
They havent for years with star wars, their avengers stuff, conan etc where they have done the same, and nothing said about the artist gets royalitys etc.

Have not much hope for marvel suddenly changing from what they´ve done for 5+ years xD

Yup. They've been ignoring it for years, unfortunately. Though I'm not sure how often he's swiped directly from other artists before rather than just magazine covers and porno stars, so maybe that might help actually move the needle a little in this case.

But given the fact that they've so consistently turned a blind eye to his swiping despite how many times he's been called out about it, I'm not holding my breath that they're going to do anything about it this time either.
Its not just him, if you check star wars and conan theres more artists stealing designs, maybe not tracing but taking others designs. So its not just one artists doing this....


Perfect-Organism
Sep 04, 2020, 01:52:22 PM
Reply #246 on: Sep 04, 2020, 01:52:22 PM
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Certainly Marvel deserves a chance to address this issue and take responsibility.
They havent for years with star wars, their avengers stuff, conan etc where they have done the same, and nothing said about the artist gets royalitys etc.

Have not much hope for marvel suddenly changing from what they´ve done for 5+ years xD

Yup. They've been ignoring it for years, unfortunately. Though I'm not sure how often he's swiped directly from other artists before rather than just magazine covers and porno stars, so maybe that might help actually move the needle a little in this case.

But given the fact that they've so consistently turned a blind eye to his swiping despite how many times he's been called out about it, I'm not holding my breath that they're going to do anything about it this time either.
Its not just him, if you check star wars and conan theres more artists stealing designs, maybe not tracing but taking others designs. So its not just one artists doing this....

Well, that takes us into some muddy waters.  Assume that one artist designed the costume armor for Iron Man.  The design then belongs to Marvel.  Then someone else is asked to draw the design that someone else came up with.  Is that stealing?  Hardly.  If companies wouldn't be able to own designs, there would be no manufacturing possibility because every manufacturer would get sued.  This is a very tricky and nuanced subject.

Taking someone else's art where it's clear that this is what happened is another story.


judge death
Sep 04, 2020, 02:12:05 PM
Reply #247 on: Sep 04, 2020, 02:12:05 PM
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The later part that you wrote is what I meant: for example star wars a lot of the new ship designs and even lightsaber hilts designs etc which were designed and created by fans has been often stolen by marvel and disney and been published as their own design.... but I guess some here thinks that is fully alright behaviour from marvel.


Hudson
Sep 04, 2020, 02:12:11 PM
Reply #248 on: Sep 04, 2020, 02:12:11 PM
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I'm curious about all the legal grounds. It's clearly plagiarism in an abstract sense, but if neither Tristan Jones nor Greg Land own the images, is it theft in a legal sense? Probably not. There are plenty of morally reprehensible things in society which are permissible by law, including theft in various degrees. People being mad isn't going to change something. I'm assuming this actually isn't a big deal by many standards, considering Land's wiki page includes information regarding plagiarism accusations from years ago. That being said, I would still rather have the direct market cover and I do think this is a bad look.



426Buddy
Sep 05, 2020, 03:37:46 PM
Reply #250 on: Sep 05, 2020, 03:37:46 PM
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That last article has all the facts screwed up and half backwards. Was it written by a 4 year old?

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Well, well, well, as all the people who are in love with the Marvel Cinematic Universe must be well aware of who Tristan Jones is. For those who do not know, Tristan is a comic illustrator of an upcoming series called Aliens and as of right now, he has been accused of copying the work of Aliens Omnibus and its first volume. This cover was created by Greg Land and he accused Jones of copying his artwork for the cover of a new edition.


Kradan
Sep 05, 2020, 03:51:50 PM
Reply #251 on: Sep 05, 2020, 03:51:50 PM
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It reads as a joke


Kailem
Sep 05, 2020, 04:13:49 PM
Reply #252 on: Sep 05, 2020, 04:13:49 PM
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The other obvious effect this could have on any of Marvel's future Alien/Predator comics is that if they ever finally did wise up and offer Tristan Jones a job at this point he might feel very well inclined to just tell them to take a hike.

And given how with all the exposure this has gotten so far it would be a tad hard for them to claim ignorance of the whole thing, I can't say I'd blame him.


Perfect-Organism
Sep 05, 2020, 04:17:02 PM
Reply #253 on: Sep 05, 2020, 04:17:02 PM
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That last article has all the facts screwed up and half backwards. Was it written by a 4 year old?

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Well, well, well, as all the people who are in love with the Marvel Cinematic Universe must be well aware of who Tristan Jones is. For those who do not know, Tristan is a comic illustrator of an upcoming series called Aliens and as of right now, he has been accused of copying the work of Aliens Omnibus and its first volume. This cover was created by Greg Land and he accused Jones of copying his artwork for the cover of a new edition.

Wow!  That’s insane!  That’s what happens with fake news though.  The first news outlet sometimes gets it right but the subsequent ones just do lazy copying with their own spin to the point that they can literally get the original news story 100% backwards!  Incredible!


Kailem
Sep 05, 2020, 04:19:59 PM
Reply #254 on: Sep 05, 2020, 04:19:59 PM
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There's a reason there are a lot of sites out there that nobody has ever heard of.


 

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