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Author Topic: First Marvel Collection Revealed  (Read 15100 times)

Kradan
Sep 02, 2020, 07:31:58 AM
Reply #180 on: Sep 02, 2020, 07:31:58 AM
It's not theft.

Utterly immoral - but not theft.

That's definitely debatable, in legal terms as well. Artists have sued for less blatant copycat art than this and won, but US copyright law is sometimes messy and inconsistent. This likely falls right on that grey legal boundary, and Tristan would probably have a strong case here. Marvel has settled out of court for these issues before.

Land has a history of even more blatant copying than this:



Thanks for sharing the video, RidgeTop

Has anyone tracked porn references Land uses ? I'm asking ...just ...of...curiousity

« Last Edit: Sep 02, 2020, 07:43:01 AM by Kradan »

Kailem
Sep 02, 2020, 09:39:52 AM
Reply #181 on: Sep 02, 2020, 09:39:52 AM
I should have known it would take Greg Land all of five minutes to go full Greg Land.

Well, not full Greg Land. The Alien doesn't have an "o" face.

Unfortunately as people have already pointed out, it's not a secret that he does this and people have been calling him out on it for years, yet Marvel still keeps giving him work and so he still keeps on tracing. I'm beginning to think all the porno expressions he uses are actually lifted from sex tapes involving Marvel editorial staff, because him having dirt on them is about the only thing that makes sense to me as far as why they keep giving him work.

« Last Edit: Sep 02, 2020, 02:16:51 PM by Kailem »

Kradan
Sep 02, 2020, 09:55:05 AM
Reply #182 on: Sep 02, 2020, 09:55:05 AM
Well, not full Greg Land. The Alien doesn't have an "o" face.

Which is weird because the nature of Alien just begs for Rule 34

I'm beginning to think all the porno expressions he uses are actually lifted from sex tapes involving Marvel editorial staff, because him having dirt on them is about the only thing that makes sense to me as to why they keep hiring him.

Well, now when you've written it I'm beginning to think that too


Predalien39
Sep 02, 2020, 12:41:18 PM
Reply #183 on: Sep 02, 2020, 12:41:18 PM
This is kind of funny to me in a way...
Not only is that some of the worst alien art I’ve ever seen by a “professional,” to find out that it’s been lifted is just embarrassing


BlazinBlue88
Sep 02, 2020, 01:01:51 PM
Reply #184 on: Sep 02, 2020, 01:01:51 PM
Talked with Tristan on Twitter. Let's get loud about this. I've spread it out across my various communities that would care about this as well. This can be the straw that break the camel's back if we get loud enough.


Voodoo Magic
Sep 02, 2020, 01:33:34 PM
Reply #185 on: Sep 02, 2020, 01:33:34 PM
I'm beginning to think all the porno expressions he uses are actually lifted from sex tapes involving Marvel editorial staff, because him having dirt on them is about the only thing that makes sense to me as to why they keep hiring him.

lol


SuperiorIronman
Sep 02, 2020, 01:35:34 PM
Reply #186 on: Sep 02, 2020, 01:35:34 PM
I honestly don't know what we can do in this case aside from letting enough people know that it gets Land booted off the cover. Enough bad publicity and Marvel will alter the it.

They really should've hired Tristan Jones in the first place though. Or frankly used a significantly less controversial artist. Like Humberto Ramos wouldn't have been a good fit but I doubt he'd have traced.


BlazinBlue88
Sep 02, 2020, 01:38:34 PM
Reply #187 on: Sep 02, 2020, 01:38:34 PM
I honestly don't know what we can do in this case aside from letting enough people know that it gets Land booted off the cover. Enough bad publicity and Marvel will alter the it.

They really should've hired Tristan Jones in the first place though. Or frankly used a significantly less controversial artist. Like Humberto Ramos wouldn't have been a good fit but I doubt he'd have traced.

Highly likely that they will alter it if enough word is spread about it.




SuperiorIronman
Sep 02, 2020, 02:22:55 PM
Reply #190 on: Sep 02, 2020, 02:22:55 PM
I honestly don't know what we can do in this case aside from letting enough people know that it gets Land booted off the cover. Enough bad publicity and Marvel will alter the it.

They really should've hired Tristan Jones in the first place though. Or frankly used a significantly less controversial artist. Like Humberto Ramos wouldn't have been a good fit but I doubt he'd have traced.

Highly likely that they will alter it if enough word is spread about it.

I just posted a link to the AVPG article through CBR's Alien and Predator thread. Hopefully enough people over on CBR will see this and by enough people I mean Marvel staffers since some of them do frequent the site.


BlazinBlue88
Sep 02, 2020, 02:27:14 PM
Reply #191 on: Sep 02, 2020, 02:27:14 PM
I honestly don't know what we can do in this case aside from letting enough people know that it gets Land booted off the cover. Enough bad publicity and Marvel will alter the it.

They really should've hired Tristan Jones in the first place though. Or frankly used a significantly less controversial artist. Like Humberto Ramos wouldn't have been a good fit but I doubt he'd have traced.

Highly likely that they will alter it if enough word is spread about it.

I just posted a link to the AVPG article through CBR's Alien and Predator thread. Hopefully enough people over on CBR will see this and by enough people I mean Marvel staffers since some of them do frequent the site.

Also tweeted to CBR, comicbook.com.


Drukathi
Sep 02, 2020, 02:45:20 PM
Reply #192 on: Sep 02, 2020, 02:45:20 PM
LMAO. Nothing to say, except that the Alien's head from the "new" cover is too ugly.

It is immediately evident that Tristan Jones understands and loves the Alien and its form. And this "new" head looks like a kind of parody with deformed proportions. Like ADI works...

« Last Edit: Sep 02, 2020, 02:48:34 PM by Drukathi »


Drukathi
Sep 02, 2020, 03:02:34 PM
Reply #194 on: Sep 02, 2020, 03:02:34 PM
Not really completely related to the matter at hand here, just a little detour Tristan's thread took, but...

https://twitter.com/WallMeatJones/status/1300971832686735360

KING.

God, I am so sick of seeing this image everywhere. :-X

Can we know the source of this image - when it was made and for what purpose? It starts to hurt my eyes when I see this xenomorph, but I don't understand - why? .. :D


 

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