User Information

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length

Author Topic: First Marvel Collection Revealed  (Read 15069 times)

drsmuts
Sep 01, 2020, 10:19:27 PM
Reply #165 on: Sep 01, 2020, 10:19:27 PM
Greg Land tracing...there's a shock.

I stopped buying any title he drew for years ago. Awful art that most of the time was guess the porn actress he had traced...


Perfect-Organism
Sep 01, 2020, 10:46:39 PM
Reply #166 on: Sep 01, 2020, 10:46:39 PM
I'm getting the Nelson cover or I'm not getting it.

100% agreed.

This is intellectual property theft.

Intellectual priory theft, is theft!

Period.

Land should be ashamed, and marvel held to account.

There should be ZERO tolerance for thieves and we should unite our voices in saying that this is not ok.

« Last Edit: Sep 01, 2020, 10:49:46 PM by Perfect-Organism »

judge death
Sep 01, 2020, 10:51:13 PM
Reply #167 on: Sep 01, 2020, 10:51:13 PM
I'm getting the Nelson cover or I'm not getting it.

100% agreed.

This is intellectual property theft.

Intellectual priory theft, is theft!

Period.

Land should be ashamed, and marvel held to account.

There should be ZERO tolerance for thieves and we should unite our voices in saying that this is not ok.
MArvel has been doing this for years with star wars and its not one single artist but several and marvel aproves it.



Prez
Sep 02, 2020, 01:07:32 AM
Reply #169 on: Sep 02, 2020, 01:07:32 AM
Wow. I've seen Tristan's IG story and it's pretty conclusive.

Won't be supporting Marvel. Won't buy this book.
This is garbage.

We should petition the pricks - make it public. Enough voices in support here to make them hopefully squirm a bit at doing this crap and hiring hacks like Land in the first place.


Nightmare Asylum
Sep 02, 2020, 01:19:17 AM
Reply #170 on: Sep 02, 2020, 01:19:17 AM
The thing is, Greg Land has been doing this for YEARS and lots and lots and lots of people have pointed it out (it yields so many Google results) and yet Marvel still hasn't done anything... :-\


Prez
Sep 02, 2020, 01:25:31 AM
Reply #171 on: Sep 02, 2020, 01:25:31 AM
The thing is, Greg Land has been doing this for YEARS and lots and lots and lots of people have pointed it out (it yields so many Google results) and yet Marvel still hasn't done anything... :-\

Royalty payments are one thing that can be put down to contractual arrangements but this is blatantly IP theft.

F*ck em. Not gonna give em a cent.


Perfect-Organism
Sep 02, 2020, 01:29:03 AM
Reply #172 on: Sep 02, 2020, 01:29:03 AM
I've liked a lot of classic Marvel stuff from the past but the people in charge now are a whole different kettle of fish.  This is so uncool and off-putting.  Real talent is getting hurt here.

Unfortunately, nobody in their right mind would take on the Marvel legal team.  That's the problem with these mega corporations.


Prez
Sep 02, 2020, 01:34:15 AM
Reply #173 on: Sep 02, 2020, 01:34:15 AM
I've liked a lot of classic Marvel stuff from the past but the people in charge now are a whole different kettle of fish.  This is so uncool and off-putting.  Real talent is getting hurt here.

Unfortunately, nobody in their right mind would take on the Marvel legal team.  That's the problem with these mega corporations.

Collectively name and shame them in public. Enough voices on here to create a little stir of public awareness hopefully.


SM
Sep 02, 2020, 03:34:38 AM
Reply #174 on: Sep 02, 2020, 03:34:38 AM
I'm getting the Nelson cover or I'm not getting it.

100% agreed.

This is intellectual property theft.

Intellectual priory theft, is theft!

Period.

Land should be ashamed, and marvel held to account.

There should be ZERO tolerance for thieves and we should unite our voices in saying that this is not ok.

It's not theft.

Utterly immoral - but not theft.


RidgeTop
Sep 02, 2020, 04:06:49 AM
Reply #175 on: Sep 02, 2020, 04:06:49 AM
It's not theft.

Utterly immoral - but not theft.

That's definitely debatable, in legal terms as well. Artists have sued for less blatant copycat art than this and won, but US copyright law is sometimes messy and inconsistent. This likely falls right on that grey legal boundary, and Tristan would probably have a strong case here. Marvel has settled out of court for these issues before.

Land has a history of even more blatant copying than this:


« Last Edit: Sep 02, 2020, 04:11:56 AM by RidgeTop »

Kradan
Sep 02, 2020, 04:36:48 AM
Reply #176 on: Sep 02, 2020, 04:36:48 AM
I've liked a lot of classic Marvel stuff from the past but the people in charge now are a whole different kettle of fish.  This is so uncool and off-putting.  Real talent is getting hurt here.

Unfortunately, nobody in their right mind would take on the Marvel legal team.  That's the problem with these mega corporations.

Collectively name and shame them in public. Enough voices on here to create a little stir of public awareness hopefully.

Count me in


SiL
Sep 02, 2020, 04:55:26 AM
Reply #177 on: Sep 02, 2020, 04:55:26 AM
That's definitely debatable, in legal terms as well. Artists have sued for less blatant copycat art than this and won, but US copyright law is sometimes messy and inconsistent. This likely falls right on that grey legal boundary, and Tristan would probably have a strong case here. Marvel has settled out of court for these issues before.
Depends on what the Tristan sketches were for. If they fall under the work Marvel now owns from Dark Horse, they basically paid someone to make a cheap copy of something they own the rights to. As SM said, no theft  :-\


SM
Sep 02, 2020, 04:55:57 AM
Reply #178 on: Sep 02, 2020, 04:55:57 AM
It's not theft.

Utterly immoral - but not theft.

That's definitely debatable, in legal terms as well. Artists have sued for less blatant copycat art than this and won, but US copyright law is sometimes messy and inconsistent. This likely falls right on that grey legal boundary, and Tristan would probably have a strong case here. Marvel has settled out of court for these issues before.

Land has a history of even more blatant copying than this:



Problem is Disney owns Alien and Marvel has the comic license and T has probably already been paid for the work Land ripped off (I think - correct me if I'm wrong).  I daresay this kind of repugnant shit is heartbreakingly legal.

I've seen some of the stuff Land has traced/ stolen in the past and it would likely be easier to argue in court, because it's not part of an IP Disney/ Marvel already owned and others own the copyright of the original material.


judge death
Sep 02, 2020, 06:28:15 AM
Reply #179 on: Sep 02, 2020, 06:28:15 AM
Here are just a few quick findings on cases where marvel uses7stolen designs from fans and artists of star wars:



Was more now when I googled more but I think it gives you guys an idea, and Im leaving for work in 10 minutes xD

And yep taking on marvel: good luck their legal team and amount of money they have: they will walk all over you sadly, and seems most readers dont care as they sell a lot of comics anyways with the stolen art.


 

Facebook Twitter Instagram YouTube RSS Feed