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Author Topic: Walter Hill Sent Sigourney Weaver a 50-Page Alien ...  (Read 12553 times)


426Buddy
Jun 19, 2020, 08:15:08 PM
Reply #211 on: Jun 19, 2020, 08:15:08 PM
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I thought the makeup was obvious and bit fake but it really doesn't bother me much.


Immortan Jonesy
Jun 19, 2020, 08:51:05 PM
Reply #212 on: Jun 19, 2020, 08:51:05 PM
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Nightmare Asylum
Jun 19, 2020, 08:56:41 PM
Reply #213 on: Jun 19, 2020, 08:56:41 PM
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Some shots he looked great to me. Others, not so much. I think the biggest disconnect to me, as of the time of Prometheus' release, was not seeing a young Weyland in the film to justify the use of Pearce as an old man. Covenant smoothed that out for me to some degree.


Immortan Jonesy
Jun 19, 2020, 09:00:05 PM
Reply #214 on: Jun 19, 2020, 09:00:05 PM
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Yeah. There are some shots when it doesn't look so fake.


irn
Jun 19, 2020, 11:28:24 PM
Reply #215 on: Jun 19, 2020, 11:28:24 PM
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I'd love there to be a follow up to Alien 3, but it doesn't need Ripley. Her story arc ended perfectly in 3. Resurrection is set so far in the future that it doesn't matter all that much what you do before it. It was like an offshoot film that you could take it or leave from canon as you saw fit. Resurrection didn't affect anything really, and I don't think it needs a sequel.

I'd take something like Sigourney playing an older 'Ripley' who is actually secretly an android used to fake the LV-426 mission returning and saying everything is hunky dory to investors and that they should send more colonists to check out a specific grid reference... Probably a bit convoluted but I'll fight any attempts to retcon Alien 3 from "Alien films MUST HAVE Ripley" fanatics!

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Necronomicon II
Jun 20, 2020, 08:20:26 AM
Reply #217 on: Jun 20, 2020, 08:20:26 AM
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Lol complaints about the xeno being terrestrialized now  :D It always was just by virtue of being  parasites compatible with earth mammals, they're still wholly Other/shoggoths at their root, just sexualised.  ;D 8)

As for all this, yeah I don't know, I much prefer something really weird, provocative and bold, or have a showdown with Ripz and David, that'd be neat. ;D



D. Compton Ambrose
Jun 22, 2020, 08:24:38 PM
Reply #219 on: Jun 22, 2020, 08:24:38 PM
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I'd take something like Sigourney playing an older 'Ripley' who is actually secretly an android used to fake the LV-426 mission returning and saying everything is hunky dory to investors and that they should send more colonists to check out a specific grid reference.
That's actually not a bad idea. Very "Aliens: Earth War" of you.


CainsSon
Jun 25, 2020, 09:32:16 PM
Reply #220 on: Jun 25, 2020, 09:32:16 PM
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I'd take something like Sigourney playing an older 'Ripley' who is actually secretly an android used to fake the LV-426 mission returning and saying everything is hunky dory to investors and that they should send more colonists to check out a specific grid reference.
That's actually not a bad idea. Very "Aliens: Earth War" of you.

In truth, Prometheus opened the door to the “it was a dream” path when it introduced the implanted hyperspace dreams technology that David “watched.” Very easy to take that and add to it that David or WY is keeping Ripley alive in hypersleep while implanting dreams and maybe using her body or something. The film is a bit unclear but in the 'making of' they do explain that these dreams David is watching are implanted as a way to keep the brain functioning or something like that. It always stuck out like a sore thumb to me, and suddenly I am wondering if the studio didn't ask for that to be included so they could open the door for an option like this. I personally don’t like the idea of any sequels being discounted as dreams, but the technology exists in Prometheus, to easily elaborate upon.

https://scifiinterfaces.com/2012/11/21/neuro-visor/

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SM
Jun 25, 2020, 10:11:06 PM
Reply #221 on: Jun 25, 2020, 10:11:06 PM
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Shaw's dreams in Prometheus are things that actually happened.



SM
Jun 26, 2020, 12:32:27 AM
Reply #223 on: Jun 26, 2020, 12:32:27 AM
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They were recorded from her dreams then played back - according to Ridley and not even properly established in the film.

What would be the purpose of creating two detailed sets of events that never happened?


Perfect-Organism
Jun 26, 2020, 12:38:59 AM
Reply #224 on: Jun 26, 2020, 12:38:59 AM
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I agree, there is no purpose to the dream-style retcon.  Either do the full retcon or don’t bother.  There is no try.


 

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