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Author Topic: Egg morphing and Alien director's cut can't be can...  (Read 1533 times)

SM
Nov 16, 2019, 08:59:16 AM
Reply #15 on: Nov 16, 2019, 08:59:16 AM
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It really doesn't.




They're not completely dissimilar, but there's a lot more shape and flow to the Aliens hive than the roiling cancerous mess Ripley saw on the Nostromo.

Depends on which part of the hive.  That part not so much.  Others seen in the hive ambush and when Ripley goes back in, more so.


Fiendishly Inventive
Nov 16, 2019, 10:20:28 AM
Reply #16 on: Nov 16, 2019, 10:20:28 AM
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Yes, but surely if Ripley saw crew members being turned into something else, it may be  worth mentioning.


Voodoo Magic
Nov 16, 2019, 12:40:38 PM
Reply #17 on: Nov 16, 2019, 12:40:38 PM
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Probably been discussed ages and ages ago but I'm watching Aliens now. Ripley says she doesn't recognise the hive structure. If Ridley's director's cut was canon she would recognise it.

Egg morphing is cool but I can't argue with that.

It really doesn't.




They're not completely dissimilar, but there's a lot more shape and flow to the Aliens hive than the roiling cancerous mess Ripley saw on the Nostromo.

Separating this opinion from us mega fans and our over scruitization... a regular person would definitely look at both as the same. The second scenario would spur recollection of the first, especially to someone who was living it.



Local Trouble
Nov 16, 2019, 06:18:12 PM
Reply #19 on: Nov 16, 2019, 06:18:12 PM
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It also didn't occur to Ripley that the marines were walking into a nest where they'd find the cocooned bodies of the colonists.  If the DC of Alien was canon, then she should have known what to expect as soon as she saw the hive.



Local Trouble
Nov 16, 2019, 10:09:10 PM
Reply #21 on: Nov 16, 2019, 10:09:10 PM
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D-did...did we just reach consensus?






FenGiddel
Nov 18, 2019, 11:44:06 PM
Reply #26 on: Nov 18, 2019, 11:44:06 PM
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Ripley says in the inquiry in Aliens that Kane "said he saw thousands of eggs there...thousands", implying that the Exec relayed that information (at least to her) in the hours between his re-awakening and his death.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m92yvNscIAo




Wouldn't that suggest that Ripley knew about the eggs? Maybe not so much of a leap for her to see Brett's state and connect the dots. After all, she did complete the Company's Horizon Beyond OTP with honors.  ;D


SM
Nov 19, 2019, 12:49:25 AM
Reply #27 on: Nov 19, 2019, 12:49:25 AM
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Right, but wasn't her comment about that part of the hive

Fair.

Ish.

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Ripley says in the inquiry in Aliens that Kane "said he saw thousands of eggs there...thousands", implying that the Exec relayed that information (at least to her) in the hours between his re-awakening and his death.

Kane didn't remember anything about the planet, and likely didn't live hours after waking.  20 minutes tops.  I think Ripley was extrapolating from off screen discussions with Dallas or Lambert about what Kane saw regarding a cave full of eggs.


FenGiddel
Nov 19, 2019, 01:21:07 AM
Reply #28 on: Nov 19, 2019, 01:21:07 AM
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Well, I’m figuring the time it took to cook that pasta and chop up those squash he’s eating, plus plating time. ;).
Maybe I’m giving her “Kane said” too literal a read. In hindsight, I’m sure the writer wasn’t thinking so deeply about it to say “Dallas & Lambert” or “my crew” instead.


Local Trouble
Nov 19, 2019, 01:29:41 AM
Reply #29 on: Nov 19, 2019, 01:29:41 AM
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Kane told Dallas and Lambert that the ship's hold was "full of leathery objects, like eggs or something."  If one of them told Ripley off-screen that he said that (assuming it was relayed to her verbatim), she may have just embellished with the numerical estimate based on the size of the derelict.

Or something.


 

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