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Author Topic: Fred Dekker on the original third act  (Read 7364 times)

Huggs
Jul 13, 2019, 03:45:41 PM
Reply #15 on: Jul 13, 2019, 03:45:41 PM
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Indeed. It was the worst possible idea right from the start. How it ever saw the light of day is darn near a mystery of the universe.


Voodoo Magic
Jul 13, 2019, 05:26:55 PM
Reply #16 on: Jul 13, 2019, 05:26:55 PM
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You co-star in Predator you're qualified to write Predator, apparently.


Mykingdom4aname
Jul 13, 2019, 07:31:11 PM
Reply #17 on: Jul 13, 2019, 07:31:11 PM
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I was shocked when I read the script that was leaked. I thought Shane Black was supposed to be some kind of script writing wunderkind. The script was just awful, forget about the changes made to the lore, it was just a terrible script. The scene where the general was explaining the "emmisary" Preds...sounded like some 16 year old Predator fanboy trying to argue why his oc Predator should be the star of the next movie.

"Ok...they're, like, the good Predators, but they're still Predators man, so they're like still super badasses and kill prople and shit. It's, like, all morally GREY and shit, bro! Like Game of Thrones, bro!"

Only instead of calling the guy a moron Fox gave him 88 million dollars to film his fanfic.


Nameless_1
Jul 13, 2019, 08:51:37 PM
Reply #18 on: Jul 13, 2019, 08:51:37 PM
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I guess Dekker is still blaming anyone but himself for the way the film turned out, be it "toxic fans" or the studio. Never mind the terrible script he and Black wrote that was overwhelmingly laughed at when it was leaked.

Never mind that the finished product is no better than what their original vision was. Never mind that they de-mystified the Yautja and changed their entire reason for hunting and taking trophies, a move that goes directly against established expanded lore.

Even if for some reason the Predator Homeworld was dying, Black and Dekker seem to have completely forgotten about the Game Preserve planet established in Predator 3, which would easily be able to support them.

Black and Decker just don't seem to have done their research or if they did they didn't care about continuity or skilled writing. They might as well have had D&D do it for them.



happypred
Jul 13, 2019, 09:21:47 PM
Reply #20 on: Jul 13, 2019, 09:21:47 PM
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"Maybe we should move in. So the premise of the movie is that in the third act was these two predators come aboard the ship and everybody’s freaking out and the predators actually want to communicate. They want to say, “Hey, we’ve got a problem, you have a problem. Maybe we should team up.”

Sounds like an absolute shit premise


Huggs
Jul 13, 2019, 09:39:15 PM
Reply #21 on: Jul 13, 2019, 09:39:15 PM
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It'll never happen again.

That's the only silver lining.



skyrimfan14
Jul 13, 2019, 09:51:12 PM
Reply #22 on: Jul 13, 2019, 09:51:12 PM
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So I’m guessing don’t expect the deleted Emissary Predator scenes to be released anytime soon?


SM
Jul 13, 2019, 10:34:18 PM
Reply #23 on: Jul 13, 2019, 10:34:18 PM
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Oh, yes, no one remember Newt, because Aliens was released in 1986 - this is such an old film. No one is watching this today.

The deleted scene said 'Rebecca Jorden'.  A handful of people would pick that up and the rest of your audience is going to go "What?"


Jesscobb
Jul 13, 2019, 11:29:36 PM
Reply #24 on: Jul 13, 2019, 11:29:36 PM
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The movie sucked! The only enjoyable part ,was the captured Pred escaping the lab....the rest was an abomination


Samhain13
Jul 13, 2019, 11:41:17 PM
Reply #25 on: Jul 13, 2019, 11:41:17 PM
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We shot a version where Ripley was in the cocoon and we shot one where Newt from “Aliens” was in the cocoon. Sigourney didn’t want to clear any future for Ripley in the franchise and ultimately I don’t think anybody remembers Newt well enough for that to have meant anything..

Not to mention how absurd it is for characters that died on 2179 to be somehow alive on 2018. But then again I shouldn't expect those that wrote The Predator to realize this on their own.


SM
Jul 13, 2019, 11:43:43 PM
Reply #26 on: Jul 13, 2019, 11:43:43 PM
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It's science fiction.  Time travel is a common trope and they were obviously going to introduce it.


Samhain13
Jul 13, 2019, 11:55:51 PM
Reply #27 on: Jul 13, 2019, 11:55:51 PM
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On Alien/Predator? No. Just because its science fiction doesn't mean one can do anything. But in that case its quite easy to make the AVP movies fit in with David creating the alien. Just asspull timetraveling to explain any inconsistencies on movies or EU. Yay.

Besides Newt and Ripley died. Its wouldn't be just time travel but alternative timelines as well. At least this didn't happen.

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Huggs
Jul 14, 2019, 12:42:24 AM
Reply #28 on: Jul 14, 2019, 12:42:24 AM
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So were they planning to carry on with those surprise characters in another film, or was it just supposed to be left as a cameo ending for the one?


Samhain13
Jul 14, 2019, 12:47:59 AM
Reply #29 on: Jul 14, 2019, 12:47:59 AM
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I don't think those people at Fox are able to plan that far ahead. Or even have any idea at all on what they were trying to go with this. They are like dogs chasing cars, they wouldn’t know what to do if they caught one, you know, they just do things.


 

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