If you had a chance to make a reboot of Alien

Started by Immortan Jonesy, Jun 30, 2019, 04:37:20 AM

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Immortan Jonesy

If you had a chance to make a reboot of Alien, what would you change? and by changes I mean things like fictional setting, characters or even stuff from the Alien itself; such as the life cycle. I'm curious  ;D

Frosty Venom

I would confirm that David did not create the Xenomorph and introduce the Space Jockey as the creator of the Engineers.

[cancerblack]

Quote from: Frosty Venom on Jun 30, 2019, 05:27:28 AM
I would confirm that David did not create the Xenomorph and introduce the Space Jockey as the creator of the Engineers.


I'd cover that bitch in evidence of David's meddling.

SuperiorIronman

It wouldn't be a hard reboot but it would pretty much gloss over the existing films potentially even set in a later period. I would also ignore and in some cases contradict the prequels seeing as all they served to do was talk about religion to the point the series went up its own ass and make the universe even smaller.

I would have the Alien reintroduced as being an existing species and maybe even redo the Space jockey itself rather than just being a big albino guy. Maybe start with a flashback of them stumbling onto the creature and we witness the aftermath of the encounter (or it even plays out in the set dressing with murals or still active computers). That it's not just their own planet that gets overrun, but every planet they hold, and there is no one direct thing to blame. The Jockey's are just in the wrong place at the wrong time and they through a variety of means brought it home and elsewhere. It's a threat that is just a highly efficient animal. It's not man-made be it created by WY or WY through David, it's just an animal. Nature is just really scary.

Huggs

I'd give Parker his d@mn bonus.

Kimarhi

I to would imply that the SJ were their own species.  Same basic setup but mess around with the cast so that Ripley wouldn't necessarily be the last survivor.




Could still keep the engineers if that is your thing but have the engineers being to the space jockeys what humans were to the engineers. 


I'd also try to make the universe bigger and more biomech with the Alien being only part of the menace.  Scott complained about the Alien losing all its steam after so many sequels.  I don't disagree, but there are tons of other things that fit that universe besides the Android angle. 

The creatures we got in the two prequels are too fleshy. 




SM

Don't care for the "Engineers aren't Space Jockies" thing.

Local Trouble

Me neither, to be honest.  Too much of an ass pull, IMO.

The damage is done.

Kimarhi

Besides the obvious size difference between the engineer in Prometheus and the SJ in Alien it is clear that the franchise meant to stick with the Engineers through thick and thin.



They just suck.  So bad.

The thought of a bald giant albino white man would be a good representation of the SJ we see in Alien deserves to be obliterated with a reboot.  At this point a complete restart is the only thing that could save the franchise. 

It is now too far away from what it once was. 

Covenant wasn't bad.  It just wasn't franchise saving good either. 

Am disappoint.

Restart soon.

[cancerblack]

Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 01, 2019, 01:59:48 AM
Me neither, to be honest.  Too much of an ass pull, IMO.

The damage is done.



This is what it comes down to. Regroup and move on, don't insist on a secondary layer of cosmic dumbassery.

Kimarhi

With a covenant sequel.

Nostromo

Reboots suck.

And every meal's a banquet.

PsyKore

A reboot sounds like a good option because it's a clean slate, which is always appealing, but how do you know it would be good? Considering the way the current industry is, it sounds just as risky. Personally, I don't think the original Alien needs a reboot. And I think Covenant is good enough to get a sequel.

Immortan Jonesy

Immortan Jonesy

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Quote from: Kimarhi on Jul 01, 2019, 01:28:41 AM
I to would imply that the SJ were their own species.  Same basic setup but mess around with the cast so that Ripley wouldn't necessarily be the last survivor.




Could still keep the engineers if that is your thing but have the engineers being to the space jockeys what humans were to the engineers. 


I'd also try to make the universe bigger and more biomech with the Alien being only part of the menace.  Scott complained about the Alien losing all its steam after so many sequels.  I don't disagree, but there are tons of other things that fit that universe besides the Android angle. 

The creatures we got in the two prequels are too fleshy.

Probably all of you are going to hate it or find it ridiculous, but how about an adaptation of Dan O'bannon's Alien plus some changes:

You can make a great design if you want, but the Space Jockey was just a generic extraterrestrial being and the first victim of the Alien. It's just a prelude to what is about to happen to the characters, and no relationship between the two species is required. The Derelict is found stranded in the middle of space by the Nostromo's crew, near a strange formation of asteroids.



After the discovery of a pyramid-shaped symbol drawn by the Space Jockey, the crew leaves the alien ship and begin to explore the asteroid field. Once there, they find the fragments of the Old Ones' home world and an ancient pyramid.





Inside the pyramid everything is biomechanical in design, and Big Chap is a teenage/middle state, so to speak; of an intelligent organism. At the end of the story one can appreciate the final metamorphosis and shape of the Alien. But of course, the site "Alien Explorations" explained it better:

"Expanding on this in the original conception of the Alien race, the inhabitants of the planetoid are seen as tough and primitive, and with an extremely complicated sexual cycle. Reproduction was very difficult for them and had therefore become central to their religion. And this pyramid was a temple to reproduction. The inhabitants of this world had three entirely different stages in it's life-cycle which are featured as very stylised hieroglyphs on the wall of the birthing temple."



I'd only replace the octopus-like monster with the beautefull Giger's beast, plus the final state or "evolution" of Big Chap with Giger vibes as well, and the interiors of the temple with the biomechanical aesthetic. The true life cycle of the creature involves eggmorphing. The Queen is an abomination created with military purpose in a research facility by Weyland Yutani. The latter fits with an Aliens reboot, though.

   

Quote from: Local Trouble on Jul 01, 2019, 01:59:48 AM
Me neither, to be honest.  Too much of an ass pull, IMO.

The damage is done.

The franchise survived to AVPR, though. I don't think it's that easy

Quote from: Nostromo on Jul 01, 2019, 09:02:07 PM
Reboots suck.

And every meal's a banquet.

Some reboots are fine, like: 2006's Casino Royale, 2009's Star Trek, 2011's Rise of the Planet of the Apes, 2012's Dredd, 2014's Godzilla and 2017's Kong: Skull Island (Peter Jackson's King Kong was better, but that one was a remake).

razeak

I agree the damage is probably done as far as Engineers go. What if the original SJ is something they worship or revere and it's why the make stuff in it's image? I'm not sure it would be worth it to try and adjust it further, but a 3rd faction may not be a bad idea with a quality writing team.

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