Topic: Ridley Scott on the hard road to Alien

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[The Old One]

Yeah, should/could've been a sci-fi classic, sitting alongside 2001, Alien and The Thing. It had that potential.

The Prometheus we got is embarrassing.

[Voodoo Magic]

Yeah, could've been a sci-fi classic, sitting alongside 2001, Alien and The Thing. It had that potential.

The Prometheus we got is embarrassing.

So just because it could have been a classic but missed that benchmark, it's automatically a disaster, trash and embarrassing? And here you actually used to like Prometheus.

Resurrection is much, much closer to those comments than Prometheus in my opinion. We'll agree to disagree on all parts. 

[The Old One]

Prometheus didn't just miss the mark, it missed every mark.
Regardless of having everything for a home run in place,
apart from a clear idea of the film's objective and a well-written script.

A perfect home run, whilst forgetting to pick up the ball.

Resurrection was always going to be trite, bringing back Ripley through cloning- are you serious?
The best you could hope for is stylish trite, which is exactly what we got.

[Voodoo Magic]

Prometheus didn't just miss the mark, it missed every mark.
Regardless of having everything for a home run in place,
apart from a clear idea of the film's objective and a well-written script.

A perfect home run, whilst forgetting to pick up the ball.

Resurrection was always going to be trite, brining back Ripley through cloning- are you serious?
The best you could hope for is stylish trite, which is exactly what we got.

May I ask politely for an American Football analogy instead? It's my favorite sport.

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[The Old One]

[The Kurgan]

Bobby B is none to be f**ked with 

[Immortan Jonesy]

It's absolutely a reasonable goal, but you need a central idea to focus them around.

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Just like Prometheus applying to the Alien Universe or Prometheus in general, the writing is the key element that either means it works or it doesn't work.

Prometheus didn't work because of the writing,
Alien worked in major part because of the writing, all the other aspects are important yes, but if the writing doesn't work- everything else is for nothing.
As such is Prometheus' case.
Going on a mission funded by an eccentric multi-billionaire Capitalist to find God, but finding an/several old God(s) instead/
Mountains of Madness in the Alien universe. With a Pathogen that generates new horrors based upon circumstances of infection. + Philosophical pondering on the meaning of life in the face of such abject horror.

It's a superb idea, wasted.

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[Stitch]

Nah, Prometheus is trash.

Still better than Covenant.

[Evanus]

Objectively, hmmm.

[Local Trouble]

No. By no measure of quality anyway.

I liked it better when it was objectively.

[The Old One]

It still is, technically.