How Fugitive was captured?

Started by Kradan, Apr 25, 2019, 12:34:23 AM

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SuperiorIronman

SuperiorIronman

#15
Quote from: yautjapet on Apr 26, 2019, 05:25:09 PM
Why did he just leave his gauntlet and mask laying on the jungle floor? How did it magically fall off of him, and why wouldn't he just grab it on his way out of the pod? Why does he need to play dead to get to the facility and get the same equipment back that was right there on the ground? Seven months later and the plot holes still have my head spinning...!

None of that is plot holes.

He's running from Upgrade, that's the entire reason he ran to Earth. He just crashed and is on the run from the biggest assassin the Predators got. If the OWLF (now Stargazer) had been following them for years, all Fugitive has to do is get captured so he can stay out of sight of Upgrade and restock on his weapons.
Bear in mind that Fugitive didn't have all that much on him by the time he arrived on Earth. He has two wrist blades, a bladed disk launcher, and a shoulder cannon. His helmet also had the helmet mounted cannon but he's now deprived of one set of wrist blades, his helmet is in debatable condition, Mckenna used (albeit accidentally) the disk launcher, and we have no idea if the shoulder cannon he had in the opening is the same one he picks up later. He has no other choice than to restock. Mckenna also finds Fugitive's blood meaning that Haynes either wounded him or that Fugitive was already injured by the time Haynes found him. Regardless Fugitive has to deal with that and in either case would be busy dealing with Haynes than to just pick up his gear.

It's also not long after that Mckenna finds Fugitive and so in the brief window that Fugitive had to come back, Fugitive didn't return fast enough for Mckenna to grab his stuff. Bear in mind that Fugitive crashes pretty much right next to Mckenna.

BigDaddyJohn

BigDaddyJohn

#16
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Apr 28, 2019, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: yautjapet on Apr 26, 2019, 05:25:09 PM
Why did he just leave his gauntlet and mask laying on the jungle floor? How did it magically fall off of him, and why wouldn't he just grab it on his way out of the pod? Why does he need to play dead to get to the facility and get the same equipment back that was right there on the ground? Seven months later and the plot holes still have my head spinning...!

None of that is plot holes.

He's running from Upgrade, that's the entire reason he ran to Earth. He just crashed and is on the run from the biggest assassin the Predators got. If the OWLF (now Stargazer) had been following them for years, all Fugitive has to do is get captured so he can stay out of sight of Upgrade and restock on his weapons.
Bear in mind that Fugitive didn't have all that much on him by the time he arrived on Earth. He has two wrist blades, a bladed disk launcher, and a shoulder cannon. His helmet also had the helmet mounted cannon but he's now deprived of one set of wrist blades, his helmet is in debatable condition, Mckenna used (albeit accidentally) the disk launcher, and we have no idea if the shoulder cannon he had in the opening is the same one he picks up later. He has no other choice than to restock. Mckenna also finds Fugitive's blood meaning that Haynes either wounded him or that Fugitive was already injured by the time Haynes found him. Regardless Fugitive has to deal with that and in either case would be busy dealing with Haynes than to just pick up his gear.

It's also not long after that Mckenna finds Fugitive and so in the brief window that Fugitive had to come back, Fugitive didn't return fast enough for Mckenna to grab his stuff. Bear in mind that Fugitive crashes pretty much right next to Mckenna.

But if he really have to run from the deadliest of the assassins, then why did he take time skinning a random dude instead of retrieving his gear, if it isn't just for a callback ?

SuperiorIronman

SuperiorIronman

#17
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Apr 28, 2019, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Apr 28, 2019, 04:52:01 PM
Quote from: yautjapet on Apr 26, 2019, 05:25:09 PM
Why did he just leave his gauntlet and mask laying on the jungle floor? How did it magically fall off of him, and why wouldn't he just grab it on his way out of the pod? Why does he need to play dead to get to the facility and get the same equipment back that was right there on the ground? Seven months later and the plot holes still have my head spinning...!

None of that is plot holes.

He's running from Upgrade, that's the entire reason he ran to Earth. He just crashed and is on the run from the biggest assassin the Predators got. If the OWLF (now Stargazer) had been following them for years, all Fugitive has to do is get captured so he can stay out of sight of Upgrade and restock on his weapons.
Bear in mind that Fugitive didn't have all that much on him by the time he arrived on Earth. He has two wrist blades, a bladed disk launcher, and a shoulder cannon. His helmet also had the helmet mounted cannon but he's now deprived of one set of wrist blades, his helmet is in debatable condition, Mckenna used (albeit accidentally) the disk launcher, and we have no idea if the shoulder cannon he had in the opening is the same one he picks up later. He has no other choice than to restock. Mckenna also finds Fugitive's blood meaning that Haynes either wounded him or that Fugitive was already injured by the time Haynes found him. Regardless Fugitive has to deal with that and in either case would be busy dealing with Haynes than to just pick up his gear.

It's also not long after that Mckenna finds Fugitive and so in the brief window that Fugitive had to come back, Fugitive didn't return fast enough for Mckenna to grab his stuff. Bear in mind that Fugitive crashes pretty much right next to Mckenna.

But if he really have to run from the deadliest of the assassins, then why did he take time skinning a random dude instead of retrieving his gear, if it isn't just for a callback ?

So what if it is?

In context, Fugitive crashed only a few moments ago and Haynes stumbled onto him. Fugitive would've only just then gotten out of his pod and mangled Haynes (he isn't skinned) in the time it takes for Dupree to reach Mckenna. We don't know how brief that window is, but it simply can't be any longer than a couple of minutes considering Dupree as far as we know ran to Mckenna's position.

Also, Fugitive does not have any means of escape because his ship crashed in Georgia whereas his pod landed in Mexico. So even ignoring him "willingly" taken by Stargazer, where is Fugitive going to go? His ship is in another country.
And to that end if he was to be separated from the gauntlet anyways, it's not like he's the one to call Upgrade. Rory screwing with it is what catches Upgrade's attention. Had Rory not possessed it and Upgrade scanned Earth, chances are pretty good Upgrade would've glossed over him. It's just extremely bad luck that Stargazer and Rory happen to operate and live out of Georgia.

The Old One

The Old One

#18
Lazy writing.

Voodoo Magic

Voodoo Magic

#19
Awful, awful writing.  :'(

Kradan

Kradan

#20
Lone voice in the crowd: "Funny writing, supposedly?"

The Old One

The Old One

#21
Just lazy. But if the rest was good, we wouldn't care.

SM

SM

#22
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 25, 2019, 12:34:23 AM
I think one of the problem that "so so" editing of The Predator causes is that it's unclear how Stargazer captured Fugitive. Prequel novel realy has showed that capturing Predator alive is tough thing to do and at the end of the book trained specificaly for such task team was completely out of game.

So, i just interested to know is there some missed footage or something in leaked script or just fan theories?

I'm just watching properly for the first time - Fugitive was wounded by the thing the flew off the gauntlet wasn't he?  He was lying on the ground covered in the dead dude's blood looking at McKenna.

Kradan

Kradan

#23
And waiting to be traped by Stargazer?

426Buddy

426Buddy

#24
Didnt look like he was getting up anytime soon, that weapon dropped him like a sac of potatoes.

TheBATMAN

TheBATMAN

#25
Yeah he looked pretty incapacitated. Although it irks that Traeger and co turned up on the helicopter like they expected Fugitive to be down and out. Considering how Project Stargazer evolved from OWLF and all the prior research they'd done, would they really turn up to a crashed Pred ship in the jungle, in the dark, with just four or five soldiers?

SM

SM

#26
Quote from: Kradan on Jun 15, 2019, 03:37:05 PM
And waiting to be traped by Stargazer?

No.  Just too wounded to get up.

BigDaddyJohn

BigDaddyJohn

#27
The angry look he gave to McKenna doesn't give the impression he can't get up though, but eh.

426Buddy

426Buddy

#28
So you think an angry look means he can just jump up like no problemo? He fell instantly after being hit and doesn't move when McKenna leaves with his gear. Seems like he was pretty injured.

Pretty sure the angry look was meant to convey him being pissed that he just got dropped in one shot by his own weapon.

BigDaddyJohn

BigDaddyJohn

#29
An angry look shows intent to do something about the shitty situation he's in, but maybe he can, maybe he can't, we'll never know for sure.

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