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Thoughts about castes in the alien hive ?

The queen and another caste of workers/warriors are enough
11 (55%)
Specialised aliens make sense, spitters, runners, warriors, drones... (tell which work for you)
5 (25%)
They don't even need the queen. Basic creature and procreation via eggmorphing
1 (5%)
I think the following, not yet invented, caste would make sense... (give a description)
0 (0%)
For me they are not f*ckin space bugs but an ancient, alien cosmic horror
3 (15%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Author Topic: Alien castes ?  (Read 1121 times)

The Kurgan
Nov 18, 2018, 10:15:29 AM
Topic on: Nov 18, 2018, 10:15:29 AM
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Independently from different host characteristics, do you feel like the aliens need different castes? Aside from queen and warrior ? If yes, which do you feel would make sense ?

I think, even you go with the space insect angle, different castes would only make sense in the biggest hives, where specialized organisms may be of use.
A lot of ant species  work well with just queens and workers and the same with wasps, which were used to create the protomorph in Covenant.





SM
Nov 18, 2018, 11:16:35 AM
Reply #1 on: Nov 18, 2018, 11:16:35 AM
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Option 1.



Samhain13
Nov 18, 2018, 02:06:40 PM
Reply #3 on: Nov 18, 2018, 02:06:40 PM
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I kind of liked the way things were done on AVP2(2001), we had bipedal and quadrupedal aliens depending which host they come from, praetorians who serve to guard the queen and be on standby in case a new one needs to be morphed into, multiple hives with multiple queens, who are ruled over by a bigger one(empress). That's for a big scale scenario.

If its a smaller setting, I wouldn't mind forgetting the hive and just having the original alien using egg morphing. That's how I see t on Isolation.

« Last Edit: Nov 18, 2018, 11:05:11 PM by Samhain13 »

Xenomrph
Nov 18, 2018, 05:49:37 PM
Reply #4 on: Nov 18, 2018, 05:49:37 PM
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I'm cool with specialized castes.


DerelictShip
Nov 19, 2018, 02:12:09 AM
Reply #5 on: Nov 19, 2018, 02:12:09 AM
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I like the idea of a queen with a hive. Specialized roles within the hive leading to different xenomorphs all of the same hive though.

With that being said I still think they are horrific ancient cosmic creatures.


Xenomrph
Nov 19, 2018, 07:53:11 AM
Reply #6 on: Nov 19, 2018, 07:53:11 AM
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I like the idea of a queen with a hive. Specialized roles within the hive leading to different xenomorphs all of the same hive though.

With that being said I still think they are horrific ancient cosmic creatures.
To clarify, I don't think "horrific cosmic creatures" is incompatible with specialized castes - if anything, it shows that they're mutable and adaptable to any situation, and you can't predict what they're going to come up with next.


Doctor Ash
Nov 19, 2018, 11:17:38 AM
Reply #7 on: Nov 19, 2018, 11:17:38 AM
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Maybe we shouldn't consider the Xenos from Alien and the ones from Aliens to be the same creatures. They might be different subspecies and only the ones from Aliens have castes.



Xenomrph
Nov 20, 2018, 11:18:04 AM
Reply #9 on: Nov 20, 2018, 11:18:04 AM
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Maybe we shouldn't consider the Xenos from Alien and the ones from Aliens to be the same creatures. They might be different subspecies and only the ones from Aliens have castes.

While the easy counter-argument to that is "they all came from the same batch of eggs", the easy counter for that is "that doesn't mean every egg = the same Alien".

This isn't the first time I've seen this theory; it's an interesting one, but ultimately I don't agree with it.


Doctor Ash
Nov 20, 2018, 11:40:58 AM
Reply #10 on: Nov 20, 2018, 11:40:58 AM
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Maybe we shouldn't consider the Xenos from Alien and the ones from Aliens to be the same creatures. They might be different subspecies and only the ones from Aliens have castes.

While the easy counter-argument to that is "they all came from the same batch of eggs", the easy counter for that is "that doesn't mean every egg = the same Alien".

This isn't the first time I've seen this theory; it's an interesting one, but ultimately I don't agree with it.
A hint that this theory might be true is the different design of the eggs in both movies.

« Last Edit: Nov 20, 2018, 05:01:03 PM by Doctor Ash »

Fleshwound
Nov 22, 2018, 02:59:57 PM
Reply #11 on: Nov 22, 2018, 02:59:57 PM
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More than option one but not entirely option two either. They don't have to be highly specialized but I think it is more than queen and drone/warrior.


Russ840
Nov 25, 2018, 07:19:02 PM
Reply #12 on: Nov 25, 2018, 07:19:02 PM
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Option 1 with the ability for Eggmorphing added in with some decent rules about how and why it happends


The Old One
Nov 25, 2018, 11:53:02 PM
Reply #13 on: Nov 25, 2018, 11:53:02 PM
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I think the easy explanation is eggmorphing occurs to generate a Praetorian/Royal Facehugger, when there's no Queen.



 

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