Fix the Predator's problems in the sequel...

Started by yhe1, Nov 02, 2018, 05:38:42 PM

Author
Fix the Predator's problems in the sequel... (Read 2,148 times)

The Ancient One

The way to fix The Predator issues is to start over and make stand alone style films like 1718. The only time the films should be connected is if the Predator survives and is the Hunter in the sequel. The obsession with trying to add to the "mythology" takes the mystery and fear of them away. Seeing the ship in P2 was great they showed it and didn't try to explain anything past this is their ship these are their trophies and the appear only to take away their dead see you in a decade. They need to make Period films set in times of war or record hot years and under no circumstance are they to team up with their prey or try to help them by giving them a Stark Industries suit with 4 shoulder canons and dreadlocks.

The Kurgan

Quote from: The Ancient One on Nov 12, 2018, 06:57:07 PM
The way to fix The Predator issues is to start over and make stand alone style films like 1718. The only time the films should be connected is if the Predator survives and is the Hunter in the sequel. The obsession with trying to add to the "mythology" takes the mystery and fear of them away. Seeing the ship in P2 was great they showed it and didn't try to explain anything past this is their ship these are their trophies and the appear only to take away their dead see you in a decade. They need to make Period films set in times of war or record hot years and under no circumstance are they to team up with their prey or try to help them by giving them a Stark Industries suit with 4 shoulder canons and dreadlocks.

True dat.

whiterabbit

The Predator has killed the stomach for the cinematic franchise. I mean there isn't much more to say than this is "Independence Day: Resurrection." If this movie came out in 1995, it would have been a smash but it didn't.

You can't fix it. All you can do is start over in 5-10 years. Probably closer to 10. It can be any story you want as long as it is a safe remake in my opinion.

yhe1

Quote from: whiterabbit on Nov 12, 2018, 08:22:30 PM
You can't fix it.

How about this:

Human scientists try to figure out how the suit works. Super Predator assassin arrives on earth and infiltrates the facility, kills a bunch of soldiers and scientists. Quinn Mckenna tries to take him on but fails, and the assassin gets the suit back. Rory gets himself killed in an attempt to save his father. The super Predator is impressed enough to dump Mckenna on the same gaming planet that Royce and Isabell are on. 

BigDaddyJohn


The Kurgan

Only way for me to fix it after The Predator would be standalone movies that happen before The Predator. So you don't have to deal with all the stuff they established in that movie.

History is full of conflict in warm parts of the world. Why not throw one or two predators in one of them and done.

Biggest mistake they can do now is overcomplicate it to make the new stuff work. Predator works with simple, small scale plots. Marvel style cinematic universe, big scale world invasion plots, battle suits and all that shiney big spectacle works for superheroes and Star Wars, i don't think it  works for Predator.

BigDaddyJohn

The hardest thing to erase is the human dna in preds, because it is clearly confirmed in the latest movie. For the rest (climate change, moving in etc) it's easy... It's just one character's interpretation of the situation. Never mention it again is vastly sufficient.

Voodoo Magic

Voodoo Magic

#22
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 15, 2018, 01:38:21 PM
The hardest thing to erase is the human dna in preds, because it is clearly confirmed in the latest movie. For the rest (climate change, moving in etc) it's easy... It's just one character's interpretation of the situation. Never mention it again is vastly sufficient.

The day another Predator movie comes out, I don't believe it will be hard nor many will be crying foul if the new filmakers ignore "The Predator" film entirely.  That's what the makers of "Terminator Genisys" announced, that they were ignoring T3 and Salvation. Then... yet again, that's what Tim Miller & Jim Cameron announced regarding   their upcoming Terminator movie, that they were ignoring T3, Salvation and Genisys.  :D.  Ridley ignored AVP.  The new Halloween ignored everything but the original.  Audiences will be fine with that imo. It won't be hard.

Even if it's not announced and just ignored, no one will care (except us :D)

BigDaddyJohn

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 15, 2018, 02:34:20 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 15, 2018, 01:38:21 PM
The hardest thing to erase is the human dna in preds, because it is clearly confirmed in the latest movie. For the rest (climate change, moving in etc) it's easy... It's just one character's interpretation of the situation. Never mention it again is vastly sufficient.

The day another Predator movie comes out, I don't believe it will be hard nor many will be crying foul if the new filmakers ignore "The Predator" film entirely.  That's what the makers of "Terminator Genisys" announced, that they were ignoring T3 and Salvation. Then... yet again, that's what Tim Miller & Jim Cameron announced regarding   their upcoming Terminator movie, that they were ignoring T3, Salvation and Genisys.  :D.  Ridley ignored AVP.  The new Halloween ignored everything but the original.  Audiences will be fine with that imo. It won't be hard.

Even if it's not announced and just ignored, no one will care (except us :D)

Indeed they can also do that ! In fact, with examples you listed and many more, they often do that  :laugh:

yhe1

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 15, 2018, 01:38:21 PM
The hardest thing to erase is the human dna in preds, because it is clearly confirmed in the latest movie. For the rest (climate change, moving in etc) it's easy... It's just one character's interpretation of the situation. Never mention it again is vastly sufficient.

How is that hard to explain? One clan of Preds pursue genetic enhancement, not all. Predators are not a united race.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: yhe1 on Nov 15, 2018, 06:10:57 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 15, 2018, 01:38:21 PM
The hardest thing to erase is the human dna in preds, because it is clearly confirmed in the latest movie. For the rest (climate change, moving in etc) it's easy... It's just one character's interpretation of the situation. Never mention it again is vastly sufficient.

How is that hard to explain? One clan of Preds pursue genetic enhancement, not all. Predators are not a united race.

I'm good with a rogue clan of Super Predators that are into DNA modification and all types of nasty blasphemous things. I like that, personally.

However, I am just as good with future films never addressing that corner of the Yautja universe again. More of that in the EU though, could be cool. :)

BigDaddyJohn

Quote from: yhe1 on Nov 15, 2018, 06:10:57 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 15, 2018, 01:38:21 PM
The hardest thing to erase is the human dna in preds, because it is clearly confirmed in the latest movie. For the rest (climate change, moving in etc) it's easy... It's just one character's interpretation of the situation. Never mention it again is vastly sufficient.

How is that hard to explain? One clan of Preds pursue genetic enhancement, not all. Predators are not a united race.

Yes that is also an option, but considering how unpopular the dna thing is, even for one faction, it's very unlikely. But possible yes.

Wysps

Have to agree. I think the Predator Killer idea in particular needs to go. But probably in order to wipe it from existence, the whole movie itself (including concepts introduced in the film, like the DNA angle and the Predator dogs) should be eradicated as well. That would be a safe route.

AvPGalaxy: About | Contact | Cookie Policy | Manage Cookie Settings | Privacy Policy | Legal Info
Facebook Twitter Instagram YouTube Patreon RSS Feed
Contact: General Queries | Submit News