The Predator DNA Upgrading - Love it or hate it?

[Mr.Turok]

It seems like none of you played Bioshock or watched Batman Beyond. The whole idea of DNA splicing is old as dirt in media, why is it "improbable" right now?  Burn me if you will but I know you say this cuz you hate it, and you know what, thats a valid opinion.

The best thing about this lore is the fact that its just one Clan of preds that is doing this. At least it isn't a super jump of a mistake that all of them do it, that would be the mistake on a level of an android creating the deadliest creature on the planet......

Speaking of which, the Engineers have tech that can play with DNA, who is to say that the preds haven't achieved just a small fraction of that level?

[skull-splitter]

Thing is, it's not something you really need on top of thirty years of established world building, especially if it seems to contradict said world building with 180 degrees.

I simply guess that's why most are upset. Is why I am upset with what Dekker and Black made. I can totally forgive the rest. But the DNA plot and giant Predator just made no sense and did not make it a better film.

[Rudiger]

If the writers say the predator can use DNA to enhance itself, then the predator can use DNA to enhance itself.

It's a stupid slice-n-dice sci-fi movie. Nothing about it has to be factually correct.

[The Cruentus]

It seems like none of you played Bioshock or watched Batman Beyond. The whole idea of DNA splicing is old as dirt in media, why is it "improbable" right now?  Burn me if you will but I know you say this cuz you hate it, and you know what, thats a valid opinion.

The best thing about this lore is the fact that its just one Clan of preds that is doing this. At least it isn't a super jump of a mistake that all of them do it, that would be the mistake on a level of an android creating the deadliest creature on the planet......

Speaking of which, the Engineers have tech that can play with DNA, who is to say that the preds haven't achieved just a small fraction of that level?

Because Bioshock is a video game that is about dna manipulation, that is whole plot of the game whereas Predator is a science fiction movie that was originally not about genetic crossings, also science fiction does require some science.  Predator was never been the most plausible movie to begin with, especially compared to Alien but The Predator jumped the shark.

If the writers say the predator can use DNA to enhance itself, then the predator can use DNA to enhance itself.

It's a stupid slice-n-dice sci-fi movie. Nothing about it has to be factually correct.

Wrong, while liberties can be taken, there is supposed to be an element of science and plausibilty otherwise it is not science fiction but just fiction.

[Rudiger]

Wrong, while liberties can be taken, there is supposed to be an element of science and plausibilty otherwise it is not science fiction but just fiction.

Writers can write whatever the hell they like.

Moaning about the science not being factually correct in a movie about space aliens...

[The Cruentus]

Yes they can, doesn't mean they are immune to criticism when they do.

Also, science fiction. 

[Rudiger]

Yes they can, doesn't mean they are immune to criticism when they do.

Also, science fiction. 

But the criticism that "DNA doesn't work like that" is entirely pointless. This is the Predator franchise. Anyone disappointed by a lack of scientific accuracy clearly hasn't been paying attention to all that has gone before.

[The Old One]

The science doesn't have to be correct, but it has to be consistent enough with the established rules of the story to be genuine.

Hence why wandering around on M-Class planets without helmets in Star Trek is acceptable,
because they've been shown scanning planets for years without biological incident.

"I bet he's got weeks, of planet scanning, WEEKS." -Ridley Scott

Whereas that's not shown to be the case in Alien, so when they're attacked by a airborne Pathogen it's a contrivance.
What's worse is that it can easily be explained in that instance, state that the Pathogen is artificial and would be hidden from scans/view.
(There's ways to write it so that Ridley Scott can have his cake and eat it too, but this is a tangent.)

[The Cruentus]

Yes they can, doesn't mean they are immune to criticism when they do.

Also, science fiction. 

But the criticism that "DNA doesn't work like that" is entirely pointless. This is the Predator franchise. Anyone disappointed by a lack of scientific accuracy clearly hasn't been paying attention to all that has gone before.

Except The Predator took a giant leap over anything that came before. All we had in the first film was spaceships, plasma weaponry and cloaking. Something that is not entirely implausible, since who knows what we will achieve in 100 or so years. The second film was bit odder what with the Predator being completely fine with being struck by lightning, the movies have escalated not denying that but this new movie takes the cake.

[The Old One]

Escalation indeed.

[Rudiger]

The science doesn't have to be correct, but it has to be consistent enough with the established rules of the story to be genuine.

The established rules of the story are whatever the writer decides. That's how fiction works.

Except The Predator took a giant leap over anything that came before. All we had in the first film was spaceships, plasma weaponry and cloaking. Something that is not entirely implausible, since who knows what we will achieve in 100 or so years. The second film was bit odder what with the Predator being completely fine with being struck by lightning, the movies have escalated not denying that but this new movie takes the cake.

So if humans might develop new ideas and technologies in the years to come, why can't space aliens do the same? By your own reasoning they are already some way ahead.

[The Old One]

The point is it's inconsistent within the established franchise, specifically the two entries that the film outright references.

[Rudiger]

The point is it's inconsistent within the established franchise, specifically the two entries that the film outright references.

Not really.

[ChanceVance]

DNA splicing has become the go-to lazy angle to make a threat bigger and badder than what we've seen before in a franchise. Even lazier is just flat out making things bigger e.g Independence Day 2. 

That was my issue with it in this film. The Upgrade Predator is just a gigantic brute that never really produces a great deal of tension or sense of dread despite curbstomping a regular Predator.

[skull-splitter]

The point is it's inconsistent within the established franchise, specifically the two entries that the film outright references.

Not really.

eh, yes it does.