Quote from: HuDaFuK on Oct 29, 2018, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 26, 2018, 09:56:01 PMSeriously ? The first leak of the emissaries caused one of the biggest fan uproar about this film...
Which I really don't get.
These people who'll lose their shit just because *gasp* some Predators might find reason to forge a convenient alliance with humans just sound incredibly narrow-minded to me.
Did the human-Predator alliance work in AVP? Not really. Does that men the concept as a whole is trash? Of course not.
I actually kinda liked the idea of some Predators being so against what the Upgrade was doing that they were willing to work with us to stop it - ironically, it feels like that would have painted those members of the species as being more in line with the noble Predator concept that these same fans seemingly treasure so much in the previous films. Sadly it seems the entire idea was killed by the rage from that minority. And boy did the resultant reworking hurt the film in the end.
I agree with this. I think the idea of noble traditional non genetically modified Predators coming to earth to help us (sans stupid iron man esque predator armor) would've been a great idea to center the movie around.
There's some great concepts floating in this film but it's lost with all the Shane Blackness (often corny), forced tension deflating humor, obsession with autism and PTSD while doing nothing meaningful or profound with it. Along with all the 4th wall breaking superhero movie Marvel Studiozation of the once very serious action horror source material.
It does in ways retroactively change the nature of the predators but it's been acknowledged that the upgrade Assassin was an outlier, cheater and a renegade. Even if he's taking orders from his clan.
But the concept they had here, if executed better would've been awesome. It would've been like in a way what 2010 Predators shot for with a bad blood rule breaking new species of super predator. But instead of 3 super Predators vs humans and one OG pred.
The inverse would've been so much better with Fugitive and 2 emissary human helping Predators defending us as a species vs the upgrade Assassin Predator.
Also would've served to make the Assassin Pred look even more menacing. His coolest scene is him tearing apart Fugitive effortlessly. Viscerally.
If he had 2 more OG style Preds to dominate like that, would've made him much more menacing.
Hadn't seen the movie since I was massively disappointed in the film on first viewing besides a few entertaining scenes and moments. But I left being so disappointed that I hated it.
Rewatched it the other day. And besides a ton of things tonally, Olivia Munn, mythos betrayal, the kid, the pred dogs ... there is some things I absolutely enjoy.
The chemistry and characters from the loonies. Easily more likable than the cast from Predators. I could root for these dudes and they were believable even with their mental illness as masculine former soldiers. Adrien Brody, Topher Grace? Lol please stop.
Boyd Holbrook is solid. Keegan is funny. Trevante Rhodes likable. All these guys are awesome. Thomas Jane could've been used even better.
But this movie absolutely belonged and should have focused on Sterling Brown's character. He steals every scene and looks to be having a blast. Engaging in every scene. His pathetic exit was
And the upgrade Pred is pretty cool. It's not on the level of the first two obviously. But it's more unique and entertaining than Predators. That's for sure.