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Author Topic: Memory – The Origins Of Alien – New Alien Document...  (Read 25631 times)

HuDaFuK
Nov 21, 2019, 03:47:53 PM
Reply #255 on: Nov 21, 2019, 03:47:53 PM
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The most interesting comments so far have come from O'Bannon's wife, but overall so far Charles de Lauzirika's doc is much more comprehensive overall.

Lauzirika's documentary is a far better examination of the actual making of the movie (as are many of the Alien docs that preceded it).

Memory instead focuses more on analysing its subtext, along with giving some personal insight into O'Bannon and his inspirations when writing it, which made it refreshing.


SiL
Nov 21, 2019, 09:12:27 PM
Reply #256 on: Nov 21, 2019, 09:12:27 PM
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A lot of the subtext analysis is really wanky though.


HuDaFuK
Nov 21, 2019, 09:25:33 PM
Reply #257 on: Nov 21, 2019, 09:25:33 PM
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Some of it was. Some of it made me realise things I'd never thought of before.


SiL
Nov 21, 2019, 10:38:57 PM
Reply #258 on: Nov 21, 2019, 10:38:57 PM
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Did you realise that the derelict ship, which is dead and rotting, with its dead crew, and its deadly cargo of deadly alien organisms, symbolised death ... because it's crescent shaped?



Huggs
Nov 21, 2019, 11:27:45 PM
Reply #260 on: Nov 21, 2019, 11:27:45 PM
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Did you realise that the derelict ship, which is dead and rotting, with its dead crew, and its deadly cargo of deadly alien organisms, symbolised death ... because it's crescent shaped?

Things...will never be the same.


Nightmare Asylum
Nov 22, 2019, 03:30:27 AM
Reply #261 on: Nov 22, 2019, 03:30:27 AM
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Overall I found the analytical lens of the doc to be very... flimsy. Didn't find much at all of the "Fury" stuff interesting or relevant, and it always caught me off guard when they tried to circle back to it every ten minutes or so. There's room for an analytical Alien doc (and they had an interesting enough thesis for one near the end when they briefly remarked on Ridley's obsession with life/creation) but overall I didn't find any of those elements in this doc to be successfully executed. Ben Mankiewicz was the only talking head on the analytical side of things who I thought had some interesting remarks.

What I did enjoy immensely, however, were the segments focusing on Diane O'Bannon. She had a lot of interesting remarks, and honestly I could have watched a whole hour and a half of just her talking. It was quite nice seeing Cartwright and Skerrit reflecting on the film, as well.


Corporal Hicks
Nov 22, 2019, 06:54:56 AM
Reply #262 on: Nov 22, 2019, 06:54:56 AM
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What I did enjoy immensely, however, were the segments focusing on Diane O'Bannon. She had a lot of interesting remarks, and honestly I could have watched a whole hour and a half of just her talking.

Oh yeah! It was the focus on Diane and Dan and Giger that made Memory for me. I loved hearing more about the specific stories that influenced Dan while working on Alien.


HuDaFuK
Nov 22, 2019, 09:44:02 AM
Reply #263 on: Nov 22, 2019, 09:44:02 AM
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Did you realise that the derelict ship, which is dead and rotting, with its dead crew, and its deadly cargo of deadly alien organisms, symbolised death ... because it's crescent shaped?

Like I said, some of it was shitty. Some of it I found quite interesting.


The Old One
Nov 22, 2019, 10:32:27 AM
Reply #264 on: Nov 22, 2019, 10:32:27 AM
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I think I'll pick it up soon to see what I think.


StrangeShape
Nov 23, 2019, 02:57:32 AM
Reply #265 on: Nov 23, 2019, 02:57:32 AM
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The most interesting comments so far have come from O'Bannon's wife, but overall so far Charles de Lauzirika's doc is much more comprehensive overall.

Lauzirika's documentary is a far better examination of the actual making of the movie (as are many of the Alien docs that preceded it).

Agreed.

When I first heard the announcement about the doc I was surprised because I didnt know what else is there to say other than Lauzirikas exceptional docs. I didnt think anything van top or match it. I was right


Corporal Hicks
Nov 23, 2019, 11:23:36 AM
Reply #266 on: Nov 23, 2019, 11:23:36 AM
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It's not trying to do that, though.




Corporal Hicks
Nov 24, 2019, 10:38:20 AM
Reply #269 on: Nov 24, 2019, 10:38:20 AM
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It's not trying to do that, though.

True. But still, after Anthology's docs, I dont think anyone can say the story of creating the movies is still incomplete

That's the thing, there's always other bits of pieces that aren't out there. Just might not be enough for a full length documentary. I think Memory is at its strongest in the first 40 minutes or so, when it looking at Dan and Giger, when it's interviewing Diane or Carmen. The rest of it feels very loosely connected. It's more interesting as an Origin piece, looking at those people coming together to make Alien.


 

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