Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 18, 2018, 07:35:45 AM
Resurrection is definitely more coherent but I don't really enjoy watching it. There's elements to it that I really like and think there's some real potential with but it's not one of the films I revisit very often. The Predator I had fun with and I just absolutely love the Loonies but I can already feel myself getting increasingly frustrated with its plot. I think of the two, I'd be more likely to rewatch The Predator though.
I definitely enjoyed Predators more but I am not sure if that is simply because I have seen Resurrection so many times that I am bored by it. The loonies were a highlight for Predator and they stood out more than the pirates of the betty did. That being said, Johner and Elgyn, stood out well and were entertaining but I would say Thomas Jane eclipsed them.
Fugitive is another highlight for me, even if it was short lived. Resurrection didn't really have antagonist that awed or scared you.
Quote from: Wweyland on Sep 18, 2018, 08:38:09 AM
Resurrection is the better movie but I have seen it too many times. I would watch The Predator again to discover something new.
I fear that is why I did seem to enjoy Predator more but the plot and the ideas and just so bad, its a film that doesn't know where it wanted to go thanks to the rewrites.
Quote from: PsyKore on Sep 18, 2018, 09:14:32 AM
Both are cheesy and have comedy but it's at least more fitting in the Predator universe. The first two Predator films have a lot of cheesy stuff in them and over-the-top action, so The Predator is still in keeping with tradition.
But with Resurrection, the comedy and silliness doesn't work well because the Alien saga up until then had always been overtly dark in nature and serious, so it has a very out-of-place presence in the saga.
My vote is The Predator is a far better film despite its warts.
I definitely agree that such humor is more well placed in the Predator side but I think it doesn't make it immune to being affected by it. There is also the intent behind the movies. I am not sure if Black was trying to make a parody but I read somewhere recently that Joss Whedon actually did write Resurrection as straight up parody in an effort to get himself fired from the job, unfortunately someone up there liked and went with that script. However I am not sure how true it is since I just looked for where I could have read that and all I see is tv tropes
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/JossWhedonQuote from: The Old One on Sep 18, 2018, 09:32:15 AM
Which is a good thing IMO- the fourth entry in which you bring back Ripley and the Alien via cloning shouldn't be serious.
Precisely why I take it as a parody, in fact I dare say that had Alien:Ressurection been marketed as a parody along with a few minor adjustments, it might have actually been more well received because one thing that can factor in critic reviews is what they believe the intent of the movie was vs what they are reviewing.