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Author Topic: Paul W. S. Anderson Hate? Love? Thoughts?  (Read 1174 times)

Guts
Sep 01, 2018, 07:13:04 AM
Topic on: Sep 01, 2018, 07:13:04 AM
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Reading over Wiki about the 1st movie and the director himself, remembering some of the Behind the scenes stuff too.. I mean, it's clear he has a passion. It's clear he wanted the Alien to be as less CGI as possible, the Queen herself was very akin to the original Aliens in terms of lack of CGI and full on in camera! And so forth.. I hate this director for most of his movies, including the Resident evil movies.. But it seems he's clearly a fan of the source material of whatever he films, but there seems to be always mis-casts, lack of budget or experience or lack of talented crew.


TheBATMAN
Sep 01, 2018, 10:57:57 AM
Reply #1 on: Sep 01, 2018, 10:57:57 AM
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I don't agree simply because of what he did with the Resident Evil franchise. All he did there was show his disdain for the fanbase and used the license to do his own thing largely unrelated to the games as a guaranteed way to make money. All six films were utter travesties yet all barring the last one were a financial success. Without the RE name attached he would never have got anywhere near six films.

Also didn't like his take on the Predator. Too big, too bulky. Needlessly changing Pred vision and sound effects etc.

« Last Edit: Sep 01, 2018, 11:03:46 AM by TheBATMAN »

The Cruentus
Sep 01, 2018, 11:09:34 AM
Reply #2 on: Sep 01, 2018, 11:09:34 AM
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He is not the best director but he is not the worst either and he at least does have passion for some of his projects. Quite a few of his films have been fairly decent, at least with audiences if not critics such as Event Horizon, Mortal Kombat, Death Race.

And if I am honest, AVP could have been so much worse, at least there were ome interesting elements there, it certainly is a film that could be done better but its not the worst film I have seen nor the worst in the franchise.

Also checking wikipedia myself, there is this little tidbit "Anderson has repeatedly stated he considers himself a "populist filmmaker", who only cares about whether his movies entertain the audience and make it cheer in the cinema, rather than their reception by professional critics."


Samhain13
Sep 01, 2018, 06:39:44 PM
Reply #3 on: Sep 01, 2018, 06:39:44 PM
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Don't like him. Don't like what he did to Resident Evil and AVP. Some of his ideas almost feel like they were done to piss off the fans on purpose.

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Huggs
Sep 01, 2018, 08:20:29 PM
Reply #4 on: Sep 01, 2018, 08:20:29 PM
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Don't really care for him as a director. The resident evil movies were as far beyond awful as you can go. AVP could've been a lot worse than it was though. I'd rather he not come near the franchise again, but I won't say he made the absolute worst AVP film he could have. It was bad, but judging by his other movies, it could've been so much worse.


SM
Sep 02, 2018, 03:31:45 AM
Reply #5 on: Sep 02, 2018, 03:31:45 AM
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Passion only takes you so far.  Most of his films are pretty superficial.  While he can get the most out of low budgets, there's something about a lot of his movies that looks low budget.  Not cheap as such, but also not expensive either.  Despite this I still love Death Race and Event Horizon.  And if I was a producer I would've hired him for an AvP flick based on EH.


SiL
Sep 02, 2018, 04:18:37 AM
Reply #6 on: Sep 02, 2018, 04:18:37 AM
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The first half of EH sets him up as a pretty good contender for an AvP movie.

I love Resident Evil, it's a guilty pleasure and a film I can watch any time. It doesn't take itself seriously, moves quickly and has a sweet soundtrack. Again, I think I wouldn't have even minded if he'd done AvP with that sort of tone. Slick and stylish but still bloody and grungy looking. Not the ideal film, but more appropriate than what we got.

The thing I appreciate the most is that he's one of the few people who tried to give AvP some serious scope. I don't think the Von Daaniken stuff was the best thing to pin it on, but he came up with some great set pieces and a pretty unique setting. It's just a pity he wasn't a better writer or director to make something truly remarkable out of it.


Guts
Sep 02, 2018, 09:11:43 PM
Reply #7 on: Sep 02, 2018, 09:11:43 PM
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EH was pretty good.


Corporal Hicks
Sep 03, 2018, 07:43:58 AM
Reply #8 on: Sep 03, 2018, 07:43:58 AM
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The first half of EH sets him up as a pretty good contender for an AvP movie.

It's been ages since I saw EH but yeah, he'd be very easy to consider as someone to direct AvP or even Alien on the strength of Event Horizon. Shame it didn't pan out completely.

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The thing I appreciate the most is that he's one of the few people who tried to give AvP some serious scope. I don't think the Von Daaniken stuff was the best thing to pin it on, but he came up with some great set pieces and a pretty unique setting. It's just a pity he wasn't a better writer or director to make something truly remarkable out of it.

Indeed. There's a lot of good to be found in AvP - I especially like that shifting pyramid - but it just didn't all come together.

In regards to his other stuff I've honestly not seen much of it. I remember watching Resident Evil when he was announced as AvP's director and enjoying it well enough but I don't really care for RE or zombie stuff so I never bothered with any more. I don't think I ever saw Death Race either.

But I still enjoy Event Horizon.


The Cruentus
Sep 03, 2018, 10:25:17 AM
Reply #9 on: Sep 03, 2018, 10:25:17 AM
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I recommend watching Death Race, it is highly entertaining and while it is less colorful and camp than the original Death Race, it is more realistic and believable. I mean in DR2000 (the original) humanity has seriously dropped to a whole new low., during races the public do things to allow the drivers to gain points, one example is nurses from a nursing home wheel out old people into the road for the drivers to run over and gain points. If I remember correctly, even children are allowed to be run over I think.

The Death Race that Paul Directed is slightly more optimistic, yes, humanity has still fallen on hard times and jobs are running out and death sports are on the rise but only prisoners take part in death sports and no innocent people are killed or at least they are not supposed to anyway, wrongful imprisonment such as innocent folk being convicted probably still happened but Death Racing is voluntary, so prisoners are not forced to do it.


ChanceVance
Sep 03, 2018, 12:29:33 PM
Reply #10 on: Sep 03, 2018, 12:29:33 PM
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I remember watching some of the behind-the-scenes stuff on the DVD. He is indeed passionate but he's an example of what happens when you hand someone the keys to the car that's a little too keen and let them do whatever they want. 

He thought he was writing Alien history so he went bananas with it.


Russ
Sep 03, 2018, 01:25:17 PM
Reply #11 on: Sep 03, 2018, 01:25:17 PM
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I remember watching some of the behind-the-scenes stuff on the DVD. He is indeed passionate but he's an example of what happens when you hand someone the keys to the car that's a little too keen and let them do whatever they want. 

He thought he was writing Alien history so he went bananas with it.

I love his work. I was reading above about his disdain for the Resident Evil fanbase, but from watching the special features, it seems the that CamCom (fact check - it was cap com, right!) were entirely supportive of his vision in that the Alice idea was an entry level concept... you don't have the baggage and history of all those games. I've never played Resident Evil, but I love the movies.

On ChanceVance's point - I'm not sure that AvP was the movie he wanted to make. I've always thought he had bigger ideas and, if you look at his pitch documents, I reckon the movie would have been quite different if he HAD been given free reign and a bigger budget.

As it was, he made a great looking movie in Prague warehouse for about 50p. And it did what it said on the tin... I get that we'd have preferred something based on the game or the comic, but as I say... I'm sure that he would have wanted to do something much wider in scope than what we got.

He IS a populist film-maker and I love that - I've not seen a film of his that I haven't enjoyed (funny enough, as big fan or Romans and  gladiators and all that, I thought "Pompeii" was one of his weaker efforts).


The Old One
Sep 03, 2018, 03:12:01 PM
Reply #12 on: Sep 03, 2018, 03:12:01 PM
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The Resident Evil films make me physically ill, and I've never played a single entry.


TheBATMAN
Sep 03, 2018, 04:35:01 PM
Reply #13 on: Sep 03, 2018, 04:35:01 PM
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It wasn't Capcom that liked his vision, it was screen gems and constantin film. Capcom were just advisors with Kobayashi as an executive producer, a title that means very little. Paul Anderson had complete creative control over the direction of the films. I just find it odd that his entire vision is built around a character that has never existed in the game lore.

Anderson and Jovovich have lobbied hard for Capcom to put Alice in the games and they have always resisted.

Jeremy Bolt and Jovovich have also suggested RE5 was only set in the desert because of RE Extinction, which was a lie. RE5 was in preproduction first and the reason for the African setting was a key plot point at the time that was first established in 1996.

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Russ
Sep 04, 2018, 07:25:16 AM
Reply #14 on: Sep 04, 2018, 07:25:16 AM
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That must have been it, I was trying to recall the special features.

As far as Alice goes, I'm pretty sure it was to provide an entry level character that could allow people with no idea about the games access to the movie. Which, if you think about it, doesn't hold much water as if the character was "Jill" or "Alice" - what difference does it make if you played the game or not.

But I seem to remember that being the rationale from the RE1 commentary.

Can you extrapolate on the desert point below, I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at (other than it was a lie?)


 

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