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Author Topic: A Series Set In The ‘Alien’ Universe Being Conside...  (Read 17779 times)

Local Trouble
Jul 08, 2018, 10:49:01 PM
Reply #240 on: Jul 08, 2018, 10:49:01 PM
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So they use terms like bug hunt, yet don't have the requisite capabilities to detect non-human life onboard their own ship?

They do.  Bishop accesses them on the flight recorder.

Ripley specifically asked Bishop if the sensors picked up "anything moving around on the ship prior to separation."  She was clearly referring to motion trackers.

Bishop would have also been privy to the neuroscan data since it all went into the computer.



SM
Jul 08, 2018, 10:55:16 PM
Reply #242 on: Jul 08, 2018, 10:55:16 PM
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So they use terms like bug hunt, yet don't have the requisite capabilities to detect non-human life onboard their own ship?

They do.  Bishop accesses them on the flight recorder.

Ripley specifically asked Bishop if the sensors picked up "anything moving around on the ship prior to separation."  She was clearly referring to motion trackers.

Bishop would have also been privy to the neuroscan data since it all went into the computer.

I hadn't considered the scanners.  I just figured the ship picked up something moving around of a size that could only be a facehugger.


Huggs
Jul 08, 2018, 10:56:49 PM
Reply #243 on: Jul 08, 2018, 10:56:49 PM
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And they did.  We saw them.  Maybe they could have been "recalibrated" to detect the motion of the hamsters, but I don't see how that would have helped them detect a motionless egg.


Ah, my apologies. I was not referring to the motion trackers carried by the marines. I was referring to the onboard systems, ships AI, whatever they may have had. If such a system was incapable of locating and warning the crew of an unknown biological presence, then given the information obtained from Ripley before arrival, surely something could've been set to search for signs of non-human biological material. Motion aside. Could there not exist any technology that could identify and locate such a thing? Especially given the fact that they're familiar with "bugs". Surely the military of the future can detect the presence of biological weapons or unknown materials onboard their ships?


SM
Jul 08, 2018, 11:00:07 PM
Reply #244 on: Jul 08, 2018, 11:00:07 PM
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It would've been nice to know they had the capability to check for such contaminants in real-time.

I don't believe they do.

Ripley had to actively conduct a focused search using the medscan.  It's not like it had picked it up after evacuating the Sulaco and there was a message waiting for her after the crash saying 'You have 1 new embryo in your chest'.

If they had used something like PUPs, then that's a different matter.


Local Trouble
Jul 08, 2018, 11:05:19 PM
Reply #245 on: Jul 08, 2018, 11:05:19 PM
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Are the PUPs anything more than flying 3D imaging machines?


SM
Jul 08, 2018, 11:05:54 PM
Reply #246 on: Jul 08, 2018, 11:05:54 PM
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Mostly.  But they can detect lifeforms.


Huggs
Jul 08, 2018, 11:08:37 PM
Reply #247 on: Jul 08, 2018, 11:08:37 PM
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Mostly.  But they can detect lifeforms.

That's right. It was only after Elba informed them the pups were picking up a life-form that the question about movement was brought up. So perhaps they could also detect non moving organic matter as well.



SM
Jul 08, 2018, 11:16:36 PM
Reply #249 on: Jul 08, 2018, 11:16:36 PM
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I could try but - it won't make any difference.




whiterabbit
Jul 08, 2018, 11:47:58 PM
Reply #252 on: Jul 08, 2018, 11:47:58 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT_Q_iAnmys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reApQlk5JiA

Can you say that without sounding like Newt in my head?

Heh... Why don't you put her in charrrrrge?!
Hey maybe you haven't been keeping up with current events for the past 26 years but she's dead, Jim.


CainsSon
Jul 09, 2018, 05:05:58 PM
Reply #253 on: Jul 09, 2018, 05:05:58 PM
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And they did.  We saw them.  Maybe they could have been "recalibrated" to detect the motion of the hamsters, but I don't see how that would have helped them detect a motionless egg.


Ah, my apologies. I was not referring to the motion trackers carried by the marines. I was referring to the onboard systems, ships AI, whatever they may have had. If such a system was incapable of locating and warning the crew of an unknown biological presence, then given the information obtained from Ripley before arrival, surely something could've been set to search for signs of non-human biological material. Motion aside. Could there not exist any technology that could identify and locate such a thing? Especially given the fact that they're familiar with "bugs". Surely the military of the future can detect the presence of biological weapons or unknown materials onboard their ships?

"That platform was becoming unstable. I had to circle around..." er something. So anything couldve climbe don board during that first land. NO?


muthur9000
Jul 10, 2018, 12:59:44 PM
Reply #254 on: Jul 10, 2018, 12:59:44 PM
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Mostly.  But they can detect lifeforms.

That's right. It was only after Elba informed them the pups were picking up a life-form that the question about movement was brought up. So perhaps they could also detect non moving organic matter as well.

Wasn't it the Engineer in Hypersleep that was being detected? As for the Hammerpedes, perhaps they couldn't be detected because they were submerged, do we have evidence they could be seen if they were also cold-blooded?


 

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