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Author Topic: Alien vs Predator : Oasis (concept)  (Read 1501 times)

BigDaddyJohn
Jun 18, 2018, 01:54:51 PM
Reply #15 on: Jun 18, 2018, 01:54:51 PM
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I like it so far. I can't wait to see what your xenomorph will look like  ;)


Wysps
Jun 19, 2018, 04:33:00 AM
Reply #16 on: Jun 19, 2018, 04:33:00 AM
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Neat, I’m already invested in the character – can’t wait to hear about the backstory when this is finished (I'm sure you want to keep a lot under wraps for the final product).  Like, where does the cape come from?  He’s advanced in years, did he hold some position of leadership?  If he’s the last of his tribe, wouldn’t he want to fix that problem instead of going out in a blaze (i.e. progeny)?  Will he have the acid-resistant flesh that few sources suggest Predators have?  What relationship does he have with the Aliens – is this solely a retribution sort of thing?  So many questions


OpenMaw
Jun 19, 2018, 06:52:12 AM
Reply #17 on: Jun 19, 2018, 06:52:12 AM
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Some developments have arisen over the last 48 or so hours. I've been experimenting and playing with a slightly different sequence of events. Not drastically different, mind you, but as I was developing things I started to notice a thread forming that I wanted to see how I could weave something a little more intriguing and original with it.

So...




The opening for the story that I had originally planned, and which is setting to the side as I try this slightly alternate approach, had an EEV mysteriously fall out the sky and inside was a nasty surprise.

Instead, imagine a predator pod drops out of the sky, and the humans come upon it, and instead of what we've seen before - A predator stepping out in full combat gear ready for a battle. They open it up and find "sleeping beauty" inside with a face hugger wrapped around her neck.

They both share the same Tattooing on their right arm, by the way. That wasn't a mistake. Though i'm not telling what their relationship is. Daughter? Mother? Sister? Cousin? Who knows. There's some kind of a ceremony at play in this version of events. It's not Bad Blood or anything. He didn't purposely infect her.

Once I get the Predators nailed down i'm going to be working on the human characters, including some of the new hardware. After thinking about I decided to try and find the middle ground between Colonial Marshalls and Colonial Marines, and so i'm utilizing a dropped concept from early on in Aliens development. The security force on Ixion are a small contingent of Colonial Guard. They're a lesser equipped version of the colonial marines, and essentially stuck to far off boony operations, their ranks littered with those who were shuffled out of the marines or other branches of service.


Also, in case anyone might not be getting the "Drifter" concept. Just take a look at this scene. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOLnb7BrMC8


Neat, I’m already invested in the character – can’t wait to hear about the backstory when this is finished (I'm sure you want to keep a lot under wraps for the final product).  Like, where does the cape come from?  He’s advanced in years, did he hold some position of leadership?  If he’s the last of his tribe, wouldn’t he want to fix that problem instead of going out in a blaze (i.e. progeny)?  Will he have the acid-resistant flesh that few sources suggest Predators have?  What relationship does he have with the Aliens – is this solely a retribution sort of thing?  So many questions

Well, not to humanize him too much but my inner feeling on where Drifter is at when this hunt begins is like... Almost manic. At a couple points i'm trying to hint at unnecessary brutality on his part. Not that he breaks what we would consider "Predator rules" but that he's a little feral in his aggression. He'll be poised and then just start wrecking your day.

And no, I went with the idea that the alien's acid will eat Predator skin and tech just as easily as it does anything else.  (His wrist gauntlet and mask are examples of battle damage sustained while fighting aliens. It's the reason he's lacking a right shoulder pad, too and he has that nasty acid scar there.

The more imposing and cunning the aliens are, the more suspense you have when the two creatures actually duel.


OpenMaw
Jun 21, 2018, 06:55:04 AM
Reply #18 on: Jun 21, 2018, 06:55:04 AM
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After thinking about it some more and going through the entire story in my head a few times I think i'll be going with my initial idea instead of the sleeping beauty version. That stuff will influence the back story but it won't be something I do with the film itself. The simpler approach is better.

Still, as a conversational piece,  this is what I would do with the female Predator idea if it were to ever be explored on screen. I don't see them as the bigger badder Predators like the novels. Instead I was more influenced by a pelty leathery American Indian feel. Both in look and in what their role would be in a greater Predator society.






I think Drifter is pretty much done. I'll be doing one last final pass on everything and doing a detail layer for texturing, shading, and adding his predator skin pattern. Need to tatter up the front side of the cape a little, too. I'm really digging the look I've come up with here. I'll be moving on to finer detailing on individual components for 3d modeling, and then onto the Colonial Guard equipment.


Some fantasy football actors i'm using as a general inspiration for my cast.

Tony Todd - Thomas Warden    (2nd LT. Security chief. Former Colonial marine.)
Lisa Eilbacher - Chief Adm. Alyssa Van-Cleef (Chief of operations.)
N'Bushe Wright - Dr. Mendy  ( Chief medical officer.)
Kim Miyori -  Fujiko Ikeda ( Security team's squad leader.)
Harry Connick Jr. - Elliot Wallach ( Security team member. )
Cástulo Guerra - Zach Martinez ( Foreman for the coring crew. )
Pruitt Taylor Vince - David Barker ( Coring crew operator. )


Keep in mind that my meta idea for this film is it would have been made in 1994 or 1995 after Predator 2 and Alien 3 had somewhat closed both franchises down and FOX was looking to pull a Universal ala Dracula vs Wolfman. So these actors would fit their roles in terms of age and active status at the time.

From that same token, in terms of design i'm going with the idea that Stan Winston Studios would be brought back in, as well as conceptual artists like Ron Cobb to expand on what he did with Alien, with Giger acting as a conceptual consultant for alien creature effects.



PredBabe
Jun 22, 2018, 03:40:37 AM
Reply #19 on: Jun 22, 2018, 03:40:37 AM
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Looks like it has a solid foundation :) Curious to see where you go with the two human leads, especially Van-cleef. Thumbs up.

She's based on my last boss/manager. She was always on edge and prone to going from very playful and funny to pulling her hair out and being incredibly sarcastic.


She sounds relatable!

Looking forward to seeing more, I’m really digging the general concepts you’ve mentioned throughout this thread. The tattooing for the predators is a really interesting take.

Now I’m gonna read SiL’s script too  :laugh:


SiL
Jun 22, 2018, 12:54:32 PM
Reply #20 on: Jun 22, 2018, 12:54:32 PM
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That thing is like ten years old and full of cringe ;D



OpenMaw
Jun 22, 2018, 04:58:10 PM
Reply #22 on: Jun 22, 2018, 04:58:10 PM
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SiL, you did better than 96.327% of the fan fiction ever written for any of these franchises and I would say you match James Cameron's script for Aliens in most areas. The only place your script lacked was character development and a proper "finale" for the human side of things, otherwise what you had was freaking awesome.

First post in the thread under background information, there's a link to a post with a link to the second draft of SiL's script.  :)



SiL
Jun 24, 2018, 05:53:15 AM
Reply #24 on: Jun 24, 2018, 05:53:15 AM
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SiL, you did better than 96.327% of the fan fiction ever written for any of these franchises and I would say you match James Cameron's script for Aliens in most areas. The only place your script lacked was character development and a proper "finale" for the human side of things, otherwise what you had was freaking awesome.

First post in the thread under background information, there's a link to a post with a link to the second draft of SiL's script.  :)
Fixed all of that by draft 4, but like heck I'm leaving that on the web ;D


Wysps
Jun 24, 2018, 07:49:17 PM
Reply #25 on: Jun 24, 2018, 07:49:17 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byCT7lhi2P0

Hunters will sometimes mark their prey, making them easier to track.

(Messing with some sound design.)

I like that flanging and metallic timbre.  Not that I have a trained ear for this, but I do appreciate that it has more texture than a regular "beacon" noise!  Was this done in Audacity or taken from a film? 

SiL, you did better than 96.327% of the fan fiction ever written for any of these franchises and I would say you match James Cameron's script for Aliens in most areas. The only place your script lacked was character development and a proper "finale" for the human side of things, otherwise what you had was freaking awesome.

First post in the thread under background information, there's a link to a post with a link to the second draft of SiL's script.  :)
Fixed all of that by draft 4, but like heck I'm leaving that on the web ;D

So there's an even better version of the script that's being hidden away somewhere?  :P


OpenMaw
Jun 28, 2018, 03:58:24 AM
Reply #26 on: Jun 28, 2018, 03:58:24 AM
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I like that flanging and metallic timbre.  Not that I have a trained ear for this, but I do appreciate that it has more texture than a regular "beacon" noise!  Was this done in Audacity or taken from a film? 


I actually sampled the sound from an old Star Trek toy and then did several layers at different pitches to create the final sound. It'll actually have three forms. The version heard there is what I call the "visor" form. Which is heard from the Predator's field of view. There will be a more dissonant version used for the opening shot, and a more crisp version used when the EEV has made planet fall.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSJTqbB0MgI

Experimenting on recreating the Alien shrieks.


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OpenMaw
Jun 29, 2018, 05:55:59 AM
Reply #27 on: Jun 29, 2018, 05:55:59 AM
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On a side note I am buying up a few different 7 inch scale figures, and i'm hoping to get in touch with someone who does custom figure work to see if I can get at least four custom jobs done.

Drifter Predator (Fusing parts of Stalker(lt), Elder(lt), some odds and ends, and pieces of a repainted SPAWN cape or custom fabric material.)
Warden   (Would be made out of a Colonial Marine and a Candy Man figure, with some hefty repainting and adjustments to armor.)
Van-Cleef (Made of a Ripley with jacket, Alien 3 Ripley lower torso, and a "Luv" head(Blade Runner), repainted ginger.)
Ikeda (Repainted Vasquez in BDU's with a Portal Chell head.)




 

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