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Author Topic: Alien vs. Predator (Atari Jaguar) - Super Thread  (Read 8412 times)


molasar
Feb 02, 2020, 09:27:03 PM
Reply #106 on: Feb 02, 2020, 09:27:03 PM
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Im ready to fight the queen, all ammo filled and on lvl5. Ive made a couple unsuccesful runs already, havent even made it to the alien ship yet.

Have you explored the Predator ship? If yes, any surprises there?

« Last Edit: Feb 02, 2020, 09:40:43 PM by molasar »

426Buddy
Feb 03, 2020, 12:51:37 AM
Reply #107 on: Feb 03, 2020, 12:51:37 AM
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yeah like an ambush at the smart gun lol. i just ran for my life. killed 1 of the 3, thankfully I had smartgun ammo when I picked it up.



molasar
Feb 09, 2020, 12:38:27 AM
Reply #109 on: Feb 09, 2020, 12:38:27 AM
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If anybody wants to check these alpha/beta roms, they are available in the following links. A hint: use other emulators like Project Tempest or Virtual Jaguar as well.

https://hiddenpalace.org/Alien_vs_Predator_(Aug_18,_1993_prototype)

https://hiddenpalace.org/Alien_vs_Predator_(Oct_13,_1993_prototype)

https://hiddenpalace.org/Alien_vs_Predator_(Apr_8,_1994_prototype)


« Last Edit: Feb 09, 2020, 02:34:18 AM by molasar »


molasar
Feb 10, 2020, 05:53:57 PM
Reply #111 on: Feb 10, 2020, 05:53:57 PM
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Any major differences?

Some different assets (layouts, sprites, weapons, HUD, etc.) like seen in early screenshots from VG magazines. Just feel more like something from a testing phase than a bugged almost completed version. I could only play them as Marine.

Anyway I remember back in the 90s I was not completely happy that Alien looks like a blue version of dog alien instead of warrior alien but definitely it was a smart choice from a functionality point of view. As it is hard to show small details properly in low resolution and not contrasting colors.


SiL
Feb 11, 2020, 05:35:52 AM
Reply #112 on: Feb 11, 2020, 05:35:52 AM
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Alien Trilogy did not learn that lesson with their Alien models. Such disappointing blobs of colour.


molasar
Feb 11, 2020, 10:08:16 AM
Reply #113 on: Feb 11, 2020, 10:08:16 AM
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Alien Trilogy did not learn that lesson with their Alien models. Such disappointing blobs of colour.

I still like it but back then I did not know a lot about video game designing. However nowadays, it seems that majority of people think if games are more realistic or cinematic, it is better.


SiL
Feb 13, 2020, 08:50:28 AM
Reply #114 on: Feb 13, 2020, 08:50:28 AM
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Even back in the day they were disappointing. Nothing to do with modern sensibilities, realism, or cinema -- they just didn't have any real detail. Although I should clarify, I really mean the Warriors specifically. The smaller forms were good, and the Queen is fine, but the black/grey Warriors have been underwhelming since '96.

« Last Edit: Feb 13, 2020, 08:58:58 AM by SiL »

lost dragon
Mar 09, 2020, 12:33:19 PM
Reply #115 on: Mar 09, 2020, 12:33:19 PM
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I am not sure if this very short E3'97 camera footage from a cancelled PS1 port of AvP was shared on the forum before but here it is.

https://youtu.be/W1iDYImB2Zw?t=7528

That's amazing.

Huge thanks for sharing, all i previously had was a screenshot.

Wonder if any footage of the Sega Saturn version exists?

Also read a game manual.

lol  :laugh: I completely even forgot this was a thing. I'll read the manual and stop asking stupid questions. Thanks for sharing the magazine article btw!

I've re-titled the thread as a catch all for the Jag version.



Motion tracker on the Lynx is interesting. It's interesting that that concept has excited that far back, but still no-one has pulled it off. IIRC they were on about doing that for ACM on the Wii U.


Regarding the potential of using the Atari Lynx as a motion tracker on Jaguar AVP:

I am lead to believe Hand Made Software said the concept of using the lynx as an intelligent game controller on Jaguar games was simply far too flawed to actually work in real life?

Great concept with lynx being used as a display device, Jaguar handling the code, but ..

The Jaguar serial port never worked as it should have and in the majority of games, it was the processing of the display which took the most time, so a game would be limited by the restraints put on it by the Lynx and not the Jaguar

« Last Edit: Mar 09, 2020, 01:21:57 PM by lost dragon »

molasar
Mar 09, 2020, 01:53:07 PM
Reply #116 on: Mar 09, 2020, 01:53:07 PM
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Wonder if any footage of the Sega Saturn version exists?

I do not think it does.

I believe that PS1 was a based hardware for the game at that time and they did not start any works on Saturn and PC ports at all. Then for whatever reason, they abandoned a console version and completely moved to PC starting from the beginning.

« Last Edit: Mar 09, 2020, 03:11:00 PM by molasar »

Russ840
Apr 04, 2020, 09:26:54 AM
Reply #117 on: Apr 04, 2020, 09:26:54 AM
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Would some mind giving me instructions for Phoenix and the English patch? Please

I have been playing on PT but i get annoyed with bugs and dodgy outlines on the sprites.

I’m about 3/4 through which is annoying because I will have to start again.

Does Phoenix have Controller support?


HicksIsAlive
May 10, 2020, 10:42:29 PM
Reply #118 on: May 10, 2020, 10:42:29 PM
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I think I heard that the English patch is available if you sign up to their forum?


OpenMaw
May 12, 2020, 06:29:56 PM
Reply #119 on: May 12, 2020, 06:29:56 PM
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I got a question. What models would the Rebellion guys have been using for the Alien and Predator Circa 1993/1994? It says they bought them at a store. They appear to be poseable models, too... Unless they made those drastic changes themselves.


 

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