So, is David unique, or are there several of him?

Started by bobby brown, May 02, 2018, 07:40:58 AM

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So, is David unique, or are there several of him? (Read 7,246 times)

bobby brown

Quote from: SiL on May 04, 2018, 11:19:55 AM
Quote from: bobby brown on May 04, 2018, 10:49:42 AM
We ain't doing anything. It's all theory. Those animals don't exist. yet.
The chicken dinosaur wasn't legally allowed to hatch, but they made it.

Just ponder on that for a while, YOU are allowed to create it, but IT is not allowed to live? yet we breed dogs that cant breath properly and cows that succumb to their own weight. I'm sorry dude, but I call bullshit, this just cant be true.

Yes, yes Yes I will google it... And yes The pig/human fetus also comes to mind. I guess we are getting there...

SiL

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150512-bird-grows-face-of-dinosaur

Specifically they shut off the genes that turned a chicken's beak into a beak, and instead developed it as more of a reptilian snout.

These sorts of hybrids generally aren't allowed to be hatched/born (yet) due to ethical concerns, particularly relating to the viability of the embryo. So they screw with the genes, see what happens, take detailed scans, then terminate.

Huge, huge difference between selective breeding giving you something like a pug, and manually f**king with genes to create dinosaur-faced chickens :P

Xenomorph60

Xenomorph60

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Quote from: Highland on May 03, 2018, 07:30:57 AM
David is broken, he wasn't designed to turn into a murderer.
He was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?


Quote from: SM on May 02, 2018, 08:32:44 AM
I think the David we're familiar with is a custom job, but was what the David models (Walter mentions 'models') were based on.
Exactly, I agree. The David line was based on the first David but he is superior because he serves Weyland himself.

OpenMaw

Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: Highland on May 03, 2018, 07:30:57 AM
David is broken, he wasn't designed to turn into a murderer.
He was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?


Quote from: SM on May 02, 2018, 08:32:44 AM
I think the David we're familiar with is a custom job, but was what the David models (Walter mentions 'models') were based on.
Exactly, I agree. The David line was based on the first David but he is superior because he serves Weyland himself.

Because he was designed to be a servant and a companion, and he's a mass murderer?

Baron Von Marlon

Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PMHe was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?

It's mentioned and shown in Covenant.
He made mistake. His memory isn't perfect anymore. When it's pointed out to him, he can't process it.
= broken A.I.

426Buddy

Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: Highland on May 03, 2018, 07:30:57 AM
David is broken, he wasn't designed to turn into a murderer.
He was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?

"When one note is off, it eventually destroys the whole symphony , David"

Huggs

Quote from: bobby brown on May 04, 2018, 06:44:28 AM
You guys are missing my point. ONE David showed to be ridiculously crafty, He created the xenomorph pretty much by hand.
If that's just ones doing, how is earth not just exploding off the sharts invention and technology wise?

The Davids are gods.

"Off...the sharts"?

Well, they can be explosive, I'll give ya that one.

Highland

Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PM

He was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?


Like the lads have mentioned, it's in the movie.

Xenomorph60

Quote from: 426Buddy on May 04, 2018, 07:03:05 PM
Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: Highland on May 03, 2018, 07:30:57 AM
David is broken, he wasn't designed to turn into a murderer.
He was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?

"When one note is off, it eventually destroys the whole symphony , David"
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on May 04, 2018, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PMHe was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?

It's mentioned and shown in Covenant.
He made mistake. His memory isn't perfect anymore. When it's pointed out to him, he can't process it.
= broken A.I.
Quote from: Highland on May 05, 2018, 01:49:54 AM
Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PM

He was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?


Like the lads have mentioned, it's in the movie.
But he was like that in Prometheus, before he was broken.

Highland

Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 05, 2018, 01:52:14 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on May 04, 2018, 07:03:05 PM
Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: Highland on May 03, 2018, 07:30:57 AM
David is broken, he wasn't designed to turn into a murderer.
He was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?

"When one note is off, it eventually destroys the whole symphony , David"
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on May 04, 2018, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PMHe was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?

It's mentioned and shown in Covenant.
He made mistake. His memory isn't perfect anymore. When it's pointed out to him, he can't process it.
= broken A.I.
Quote from: Highland on May 05, 2018, 01:49:54 AM
Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PM

He was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?


Like the lads have mentioned, it's in the movie.
But he was like that in Prometheus, before he was broken.

No, he's quite clearly under orders from Weyland at that point and everything he does is his programming rather than conscious decision making. He's not a bad guy in Prometheus, he's just a robot doing what a robot would do.

Scorpio

Maybe David had like Robocop had;



Directive 4 made him incapable of arresting or harming a senior member of OCP.

So maybe Weyland had that built into David, so David could not harm him and had to obey his orders.

SM

Quote from: Highland on May 05, 2018, 02:13:12 AM
Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 05, 2018, 01:52:14 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on May 04, 2018, 07:03:05 PM
Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: Highland on May 03, 2018, 07:30:57 AM
David is broken, he wasn't designed to turn into a murderer.
He was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?

"When one note is off, it eventually destroys the whole symphony , David"
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on May 04, 2018, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PMHe was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?

It's mentioned and shown in Covenant.
He made mistake. His memory isn't perfect anymore. When it's pointed out to him, he can't process it.
= broken A.I.
Quote from: Highland on May 05, 2018, 01:49:54 AM
Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PM

He was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?


Like the lads have mentioned, it's in the movie.
But he was like that in Prometheus, before he was broken.

No, he's quite clearly under orders from Weyland at that point and everything he does is his programming rather than conscious decision making. He's not a bad guy in Prometheus, he's just a robot doing what a robot would do.

You could make an argument that he was a bit off in Prometheus when he says 'thirty six hours' to Vickers instead of dividing it up into a day and 12 hours.

Highland

Quote from: SM on May 05, 2018, 03:29:13 AM
Quote from: Highland on May 05, 2018, 02:13:12 AM
Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 05, 2018, 01:52:14 AM
Quote from: 426Buddy on May 04, 2018, 07:03:05 PM
Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PM
Quote from: Highland on May 03, 2018, 07:30:57 AM
David is broken, he wasn't designed to turn into a murderer.
He was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?

"When one note is off, it eventually destroys the whole symphony , David"
Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on May 04, 2018, 05:58:06 PM
Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PMHe was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?

It's mentioned and shown in Covenant.
He made mistake. His memory isn't perfect anymore. When it's pointed out to him, he can't process it.
= broken A.I.
Quote from: Highland on May 05, 2018, 01:49:54 AM
Quote from: Xenomorph60 on May 04, 2018, 05:16:49 PM

He was designed to be artificial life, he is not broken. Why does everyone think that?


Like the lads have mentioned, it's in the movie.
But he was like that in Prometheus, before he was broken.

No, he's quite clearly under orders from Weyland at that point and everything he does is his programming rather than conscious decision making. He's not a bad guy in Prometheus, he's just a robot doing what a robot would do.

You could make an argument that he was a bit off in Prometheus when he says 'thirty six hours' to Vickers instead of dividing it up into a day and 12 hours.

Depends, wouldn't an hour be the more accurate, particularly in space.

Also wouldn't that just roll off the tongue better anyway? " The squad will be deployed in 36 hours" " The squad will be deployed in one day and 12 hours"   

SiL

But he's already mentioned days. It's an intentional error to show something might be up.

SM

Yeah the line is in response to Vickers question about how long into the journey they are and David says "for €œ2 years, 4 months, 18 days, 36 hours, 15 minutes" instead of 2 years, 4 months, 19 days, 12 hours 15 minutes.

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