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Author Topic: William Gibson's Alien 3  (Read 78870 times)

HuDaFuK
Jan 29, 2020, 09:26:42 AM
Reply #1125 on: Jan 29, 2020, 09:26:42 AM
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Been saying this all along! The adaptation is incredibly faithful to the script.

Yeah, I really hadn't realised. It's been so long since I read the script, and between that and confusing bits with the first draft I hadn't clocked just how close the comic is.

And agreed on the dropships. But I'm not sure the Defiant-like design would have been incredibly better.

Tbh anything would have been better in my eyes. If we're taking the script's Cold War allusions to heart, the idea the UPP would be using the same equipment as the UA is completely ridiculous and implausible.

The script says Uzi-like, not Uzi's. This is a criticism I do agree with. It'd have been better if Johnie had gone a step further with that, making it look something more futuristic the way the Pulse Rifle is just a shell over Thompson.

And yeah, this too. Would've been nice to see a little more imagination, rather than having them using weapons that are over 225 years old. Again, shades of implausible.

But other than those gripes, I enjoyed the comic a lot more second time around. The final issue still feels a bit rushed, but having it side-by-side with the script made it a lot easier to follow.


Local Trouble
Jan 29, 2020, 05:49:22 PM
Reply #1126 on: Jan 29, 2020, 05:49:22 PM
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I'd have even been okay with the UPP interceptor resembling a USCM dropship so long as there were visible differences.  After all, the Soviets made knockoffs of American military hardware during the Cold War.  Just look at the MiG-25 Foxbat.

But I'd still prefer a space Hind and a dressed-up AK over the Uzi.

« Last Edit: Jan 29, 2020, 06:00:29 PM by Local Trouble »

SM
Jan 29, 2020, 08:31:04 PM
Reply #1127 on: Jan 29, 2020, 08:31:04 PM
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Implausible.


Local Trouble
Jan 29, 2020, 09:12:52 PM
Reply #1128 on: Jan 29, 2020, 09:12:52 PM
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I always pictured the interior of Anchorpoint as looking like the sets from Outland.  Especially Dr. Lazarus' medical station.



HuDaFuK
Jan 30, 2020, 08:27:13 AM
Reply #1129 on: Jan 30, 2020, 08:27:13 AM
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Implausible.

I knew you were going to bring that up ;D

Hicks' shotgun kind of is implausible tbh, but at least the novelisation tries to explain it away as a family heirloom handed down through the generations. It's something Hicks brings along, not front-line military equipment.


SM
Jan 30, 2020, 09:53:32 AM
Reply #1130 on: Jan 30, 2020, 09:53:32 AM
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 :laugh:


Vermillion
Jan 30, 2020, 01:10:55 PM
Reply #1131 on: Jan 30, 2020, 01:10:55 PM
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I'd have even been okay with the UPP interceptor resembling a USCM dropship so long as there were visible differences.  After all, the Soviets made knockoffs of American military hardware during the Cold War.  Just look at the MiG-25 Foxbat.

But I'd still prefer a space Hind and a dressed-up AK over the Uzi.
Planes can only look a certain way.  They will all resemble one another.

Plus the MiG-25 is huge compared to the F-15

Boeing Airbus. 

Wright brother vs Da Vinci.

Airwolf vs Blue Thunder


The Old One
Jan 30, 2020, 01:58:49 PM
Reply #1132 on: Jan 30, 2020, 01:58:49 PM
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Or that ancient model being present in Aliens is just ridiculous, don't repeat it in future material, thank you.

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SiL
Jan 30, 2020, 02:36:11 PM
Reply #1133 on: Jan 30, 2020, 02:36:11 PM
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Sheesh, wait till you find out about their service pistols.


HuDaFuK
Jan 30, 2020, 05:26:07 PM
Reply #1134 on: Jan 30, 2020, 05:26:07 PM
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Planes can only look a certain way.  They will all resemble one another.

Spacecraft can basically look like whatever the f*ck you want them to look like. There's no aerodynamics to consider.

Did the Space Shuttle look like Orion?

Did the Sulaco look like the Nostromo?

Sheesh, wait till you find out about their service pistols.

Meh, the VP70 kinda flies because a) it's obscure enough that I'm not sure I've ever seen one in another film, and b) it's pretty sci-fi lookin' anyway. Vasquez's Smith & Wesson is a bit harder to justify, but I guess a lot of pistols look kinda similar at the end of the day. So you can kinda take those as something more time-period appropriate.

The Uzi's so ubiquitous I can't really see it as anything other than a 20th century Uzi.


SiL
Jan 30, 2020, 06:47:05 PM
Reply #1135 on: Jan 30, 2020, 06:47:05 PM
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All modern spacecraft are designed with aerodynamics in mind on account of all the air they have to pass through on takeoff. There's a reason space shuttles look like planes.

I mean I get your general point.


The Cruentus
Jan 30, 2020, 07:02:07 PM
Reply #1136 on: Jan 30, 2020, 07:02:07 PM
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Old fashioned guns are not too implausible though, if they function and could be used as a side-arm then why not? Some people do use old weapons like revolvers.

The impression I get from the alien universe, atleast the first two is that they don't waste tech, ships are all fitted with old monitors and keyboards, granted the real reason is obviously due to the real life era and available tech but it does make you think about the in-universe reason for it all.


Local Trouble
Jan 30, 2020, 09:18:44 PM
Reply #1137 on: Jan 30, 2020, 09:18:44 PM
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Dropships have to be at least somewhat aerodynamic in order to perform their intended function as trans-atmospheric aerospace transports.  I'm not convinced that a UPP interceptor would share those same requirements though.

Plus the MiG-25 is huge compared to the F-15

You're more of a VF-1J guy.

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KiramidHead
Jan 30, 2020, 09:21:01 PM
Reply #1138 on: Jan 30, 2020, 09:21:01 PM
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I'm picturing a futuristic Lethal Weapon 2 with Pesci going "A lot old timers carry bullet guns, I bet the young guy has lasers!"


Corporal Hicks
Jan 31, 2020, 08:38:26 AM
Reply #1139 on: Jan 31, 2020, 08:38:26 AM
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The Interceptor is still just a Longsword from Halo in my head.


 

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