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Author Topic: Neill Blomkamp Shares New Alien 5 Concept Art  (Read 38226 times)

brokentusk420
Oct 06, 2018, 06:47:22 PM
Reply #195 on: Oct 06, 2018, 06:47:22 PM
Disney needs to call him asap to resurrect this, I mean he had Weaver and Cameron backing his script.

That doesn't mean anything. That's just to stir interest in fans who think the success of future movies lies with the approval of those involved with the previous installments. They will say anything if money is involved. 


irn
Oct 06, 2018, 08:34:24 PM
Reply #196 on: Oct 06, 2018, 08:34:24 PM
i would still be open to giving neill a chance, but im tired of the whole "muh hix n noot" thing. leave A3 alone, the time for those retcon dreams are 20 years too late and I doubt his movie would be better than A3.

Agreed. Retconning and rebooting just creates a mess and the series loses integrity. If Blompkamp really wants to make an Aliens 2 then there's plenty of ways he can do it without bringing back Ripley or Hicks. It's a rich universe to play with. There's no need to milk nostalgia for every last drop.


Huggs
Oct 07, 2018, 10:34:05 PM
Reply #197 on: Oct 07, 2018, 10:34:05 PM
I've always been steadfast against bringing back any characters. But just this once I'll play devils advocate. I could almost (and I emphasize almost) tolerate seeing the characters come back for one film, just for the fun of it. But only on two conditions.

First, the film would have to follow Gibson's script, and be given a hard "R" rating.

Second, (and most importantly) it would need to be cast with younger actors, like hellboy. I could tolerate a new film sliding in there to go off on a different path, but not with weaver and company. Bring in Hardy or some other younger but capable actor, and the same for Ripley and Newt's characters. That is something I could almost stand. But bringing back aging actors for the sake of fan service and a quick buck is something I'd rather not see happen.

Now, animated versions of Gibson and Ward's scripts with Weaver and others providing voiceovers would be something I could dig.


proto leech
Oct 09, 2018, 06:08:50 AM
Reply #198 on: Oct 09, 2018, 06:08:50 AM
i would still be open to giving neill a chance, but im tired of the whole "muh hix n noot" thing. leave A3 alone, the time for those retcon dreams are 20 years too late and I doubt his movie would be better than A3.

Agreed. Retconning and rebooting just creates a mess and the series loses integrity. If Blompkamp really wants to make an Aliens 2 then there's plenty of ways he can do it without bringing back Ripley or Hicks. It's a rich universe to play with. There's no need to milk nostalgia for every last drop.

I would say a retcon is necessary though. Ive always loved and defend it but resurrection is the problem. Like it or not you need that era of colonial marines/WY/colonies ect. if you're gonna push for an Alien 5 at this point, and a sequel to rez cant really have that.

cut off resurrection as an alternate timeline and continue with new characters after ripley's lead death. It frees you up for anything: earth invasion? engineer shenanigans come to the main timeline? who knows


The Old One
Oct 09, 2018, 06:44:56 AM
Reply #199 on: Oct 09, 2018, 06:44:56 AM
Agreed

Resurrection's "elseworld" future contradistincts the original Alien film Trilogy- as it is.

« Last Edit: Oct 09, 2018, 12:00:16 PM by The Old One »

Whiskeybrewer
Oct 09, 2018, 11:31:14 AM
Reply #200 on: Oct 09, 2018, 11:31:14 AM
I'd say continue after Resurrection. Maybe a 20/30 Year time jump forward and then just do it with completely new characters


The Old One
Oct 09, 2018, 11:54:50 AM
Reply #201 on: Oct 09, 2018, 11:54:50 AM
Resurrection's existence features troublesome aesthetics but otherwise, lore handwaveable.

« Last Edit: Oct 09, 2018, 12:14:56 PM by The Old One »

Perfect-Organism
Oct 09, 2018, 07:25:53 PM
Reply #202 on: Oct 09, 2018, 07:25:53 PM
So you think a movie which ignores Resurrection, (a film that features Ripley - of sorts) but follows after Alien 3 (which discontinues the presence of Ripley) would do better, and would be better than a film that follows after Resurrection, which already nobody wants to do?

What makes Alien 3 more valid than Resurrection as per this argument?  If you're going to retcon 1 element of the series such as Resurrection, why stop there, and not go to the one point at which the series was at its zenith?


The Old One
Oct 09, 2018, 07:44:50 PM
Reply #203 on: Oct 09, 2018, 07:44:50 PM
Because Ellen Ripley's narrative concluded in the Trilogy.

& Alien, Aliens, Alien³ is a complete through line.

Resurrection never mattered. "You're not her." -Call

(Frankly, f**k retconning A3.)




SM
Oct 09, 2018, 07:55:24 PM
Reply #204 on: Oct 09, 2018, 07:55:24 PM
So you think a movie which ignores Resurrection, (a film that features Ripley - of sorts) but follows after Alien 3 (which discontinues the presence of Ripley) would do better, and would be better than a film that follows after Resurrection, which already nobody wants to do?

What makes Alien 3 more valid than Resurrection as per this argument?  If you're going to retcon 1 element of the series such as Resurrection, why stop there, and not go to the one point at which the series was at its zenith?

Because the era of Alien 3 has the Company and marines which are both very popular elements, and Resurrection doesn't.


Perfect-Organism
Oct 09, 2018, 08:00:52 PM
Reply #205 on: Oct 09, 2018, 08:00:52 PM
Ok, I can understand that.  You're a fan of the initial trilogy.  But if you're willing to think about it dispassionately as a studio executive, (look at it from our perspective - Van Leuwen) do you really think it makes sense to axe a film which was made to reset the series after a film that was poorly received in the first place?  Wouldn't that bring you back to square 1?

The argument here, professed often, is that Alien 3 closes the loop in the best way.  That's hardly true.  It only does so in one way.  The likelihood of what happened to Ripley on the Sulaco is much more slim than Ripley and co getting old somewhere until they hear about more Alien shenanigans happening somewhere.  Hilarity to ensue.


SM
Oct 09, 2018, 08:02:47 PM
Reply #206 on: Oct 09, 2018, 08:02:47 PM
I'm not in favour of axing anything.


Immortan Jonesy
Oct 09, 2018, 08:08:38 PM
Reply #207 on: Oct 09, 2018, 08:08:38 PM
Retcon sounds ugly and rude. Shall we call it "Alien 3's alternate storytelling" instead?  :)  (I wish I have an anthology of alternate stories in fact, especially focused on the prequel era). 

« Last Edit: Oct 09, 2018, 08:22:07 PM by Crazy Shrimp »



 

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