Sequel Ideas

Started by genocyber, Nov 03, 2017, 10:30:12 PM

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bacchus

bacchus

#15
I'd like a sequel set on a post-apocalyptic Earth, several years after Resurrection. Perhaps people are living in a 'Max Max' style wasteland - a group of scavengers see a bright light in the sky plummeting towards earth. Later, in the desert, they find a military dropship crashed, all of the occupants dead. A facehugger which was also aboard the ship, latches onto one of the scavengers.

They are miles away from their camp, so take him to the nearest shelter - an old, abandoned and derelict Weyland Yutani lab/installation. The scavengers look around and find their way to a lab with all kinds of weird experimentation - apparently Weyland-Yutani were already experimenting with Xeno embryos long before. At some point the facehugged-scavenger births a chestburster, and the rest of the film would be the Xeno hunting the scavengers in and around the lab installation.

Denton Smalls

Denton Smalls

#16
That's a cool idea. Imagine George Miller directing and we get an Alien film that looks like Fury Road??

adambeyoncelowe

adambeyoncelowe

#17
That's not a bad idea. Although, the franchise has mostly worked with claustrophobic spaces. The open spaces are mostly massively inhospitable, forcing the characters to stay indoors (Fury 161, LV-426). Prometheus and Covenant had moments where the characters were out in the open, but they usually ended up back in those dark, claustrophobic spaces when the monsters attacked.

Mad Max-style post-apocalyptic settings are literally the opposite of the franchise's natural setting. That could be a good thing, undoubtedly. It would be harder to maintain the tone or vibes people would expect, however. Wide open spaces are exhilarating, but not usually scary. Though Ripley as a gnarled Mad Max figure would be super cool. If characters end up the ruins of cities, you could have them infested with aliens. Out in the desert, it would be harder to create the thrills, as the aliens would be out in the open. Maybe they could swim through the sand and leap out? I'm not sure on that one.

However, a zombie movie tone could work within that wider, more expansive setting. Humans trying to hole up in a building/town/makeshift fortress under siege by xenomorphs, for instance. Perhaps if the world outside is a wasteland, it keeps them from running because there's literally nowhere to run to--except an endless, blistering desert. They have to stay and drive the aliens away to protect, say, their generator or well. But then someone inside the town/fort/whatever lets the aliens in... (Treachery tends to be a second-act trope in the Alien films: Ash, Burke, Golic (in AC only), Wren.)

Or you could start with the outpost under attack from the aliens, so the townspeople have to flee, crossing the desert to find a fabled research station with its own water purifiers and hydroponic gardens. Of course, when they get there, the aliens have already taken over, so they have to drive them out and fortify the place for themselves.

The Cruentus

The Cruentus

#18
Alien: Resurrectiion, Prometheus and Alien: Covenant veered too far from Alien in my opinion, they were more supernatural than sci fi and too over the top. Not to mention the scientists in those films were supremely stupid. While I enjoyed Covenant, it was too heavy in slasher tropes and requied supreme stupidity of the crew to progress the plot.

I would take franchise back to its roots, a straight horror/sci fi independant from the prequels with no focus on human or alien origins and the other big questions. The focus will be on human characters and proper development and of course, the Alien. The human characters will behave realistically in the given situation they are in....unlike certain characters from the other films  :P Suspense, terror and claustrophobia will be the feelings it will bring back. However, it will need to have some originality to prevent it from being a rehash of Alien, but without becoming an emulation of Aliens.

OpenMaw

OpenMaw

#19
So you want something more along the lines of The Descent?


The Cruentus

The Cruentus

#20
I suppose, the Descent was good horror film but that film also required some stupidity.
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Juno picked a cave that hasn't been surveryed, at least by anyone who survived the cave.
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OpenMaw

OpenMaw

#21
Indeed, though at least it's made pretty apparent by that point in the film (When that factoid is revealed) that the character in question is sorta cocky and arrogant and thought it would be sure-fire. So it was at least consistent stupidity on their part.

I'd love to see a film in that vein, though. An alien in an alien environment and a team being stalked through it. There's so many potential scenarios that could be played out there.

Scorpio

Scorpio

#22
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 25, 2017, 07:11:16 PM
I suppose, the Descent was good horror film but that film also required some stupidity.
Spoiler
Juno picked a cave that hasn't been surveryed, at least by anyone who survived the cave.
[close]

Somebody in other thread compared Milburn to Steve Irwin, well read up on John Jones who died exploring Nutty Putty Cave.

The Cruentus

The Cruentus

#23
Quote from: OpenMaw on Dec 26, 2017, 07:31:56 AM
Indeed, though at least it's made pretty apparent by that point in the film (When that factoid is revealed) that the character in question is sorta cocky and arrogant and thought it would be sure-fire. So it was at least consistent stupidity on their part.

I'd love to see a film in that vein, though. An alien in an alien environment and a team being stalked through it. There's so many potential scenarios that could be played out there.

True, it fit the character which is what is important, characters need to act realistically and true to what they are presented as. That character was cocky and her behavior fits it.
Which is where the Alien prequels screw up, a scientist is supposed to be someone who is logical and got a good head on them, instead we got Milburn, who thinks touching an unknown Alien lifeform is good idea....especially when you got a bunch of Engineer corpses which signals something bad has happened in that cavern, and said Alien lifeform is hissing and behaving aggressively.

Oram is probably the worst for stupidity though, while not a scientist, he did have foreknowledge of the threats and suspicion of David before sticking his head above an egg, I don't know how Ridley can compare him to Kane, when its not even the same. Kane was stupid but at least he didn't have as much knowledge as Oram.

I too would like to see a film in that vein, good characters and at least common sense behavior is a must. They need to avoid using terrible horror/slasher tropes.

Gash

Gash

#24
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 26, 2017, 05:16:58 PM
..we got Milburn, who thinks touching an unknown Alien lifeform is good idea....especially when you got a bunch of Engineer corpses which signals something bad has happened in that cavern, and said Alien lifeform is hissing and behaving aggressively.


Where did this happen? Some edit I've not seen?

The Cruentus

The Cruentus

#25
When he first tries to touch it, it hisses I believe and then it opens its flaps, a cobra will open its hood when its being hostile so such activity from this thing should have ringed alarm bells for anyone with common sense. Around the 1.03:06 mark,

Xenomrph

Xenomrph

#26
Here's my sequel pitch:

Adapt the 'Aliens: Labyrinth' comic series, unaltered.

Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

#27
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 27, 2017, 05:31:59 AM
Here's my sequel pitch:

Adapt the 'Aliens: Labyrinth' comic series, unaltered.

There is something about the idea of seeing Aliens farming their hosts on the big screen...

Xenomrph

Xenomrph

#28
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2017, 11:50:38 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 27, 2017, 05:31:59 AM
Here's my sequel pitch:

Adapt the 'Aliens: Labyrinth' comic series, unaltered.

There is something about the idea of seeing Aliens farming their hosts on the big screen...
The whole Church flashback, if done right, would be f**king crazy and scary as shit. Ridley Scott says the Alien isn't scary anymore? Sounds like he hasn't read Labyrinth... ;)

OpenMaw

OpenMaw

#29
Every time I say that, SM has to squash my dreams with his big boot of reality...

That would be such a freaky-ass and cool Alien movie though. I love the ideas explored with the Alien behavior in that, too. They must be free or they will ultimately die. That fits the personality of the beast so well.

Not to mention, as nasty and unsettling as the Shaw surgery was, I think Church's self-surgery was far more horrific and grotesque.

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