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Author Topic: Scott: I think the Beast is almost run out, person...  (Read 40362 times)

Johnny Handsome
Nov 15, 2017, 02:59:34 PM
Reply #315 on: Nov 15, 2017, 02:59:34 PM
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Scott: I think the Beast is almost run out
Then just step the hell back and let someone who still has a passion for this franchise and creature, direct a movie fans really want to see and deserve. Then maybe people don't have to go through philosophical bullshit and Alien-Puking androids with a Wagner-fetish. This is some high quality Strause-Level bullshit.

Canceling the Alien for the next one and bringing in new (yet lame) creatures won't make the movie any better if your story is shit from the start. If you don't have trust in the creature (which is the core of the franchise) then why make a sequel/prequel? Make something new, but i understand... you can't cash in on the fans then. They don't even have a point up until now, we still don't know how the derelict got there.

I thought Covenant was a step into the right direction for the franchise, going back to the horror elements that were sorely missed from Prometheus, but having seen two big budget movies now i think Alien works better in smaller yet more powerful and inventive films.

I think they should really just totally reboot the franchise, set it after all the Alien films with brand new characters (No Ripley clones please), you can have the classic Alien and new creatures and make it all much more interesting.


Bojo
Nov 15, 2017, 04:45:47 PM
Reply #316 on: Nov 15, 2017, 04:45:47 PM
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Hardly surprised by this news from Ridley.

If you listen to his commentary of A:Covenant you get a very strong sense of someone who's just going through motions,which is a big contrast to his Prometheus commentary where his enthusiam for the film was strongly evident.


bleau
Nov 15, 2017, 07:08:32 PM
Reply #317 on: Nov 15, 2017, 07:08:32 PM
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Hardly surprised by this news from Ridley.

If you listen to his commentary of A:Covenant you get a very strong sense of someone who's just going through motions,which is a big contrast to his Prometheus commentary where his enthusiam for the film was strongly evident.

It definitely seems so. Scott even mentions "well I was right after all" or something to that extant, like he was indeed against having Aliens in it. I can see the producers forcing creative control of Alien Covenant.


0321recon
Nov 15, 2017, 08:19:36 PM
Reply #318 on: Nov 15, 2017, 08:19:36 PM
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Hardly surprised by this news from Ridley.

If you listen to his commentary of A:Covenant you get a very strong sense of someone who's just going through motions,which is a big contrast to his Prometheus commentary where his enthusiam for the film was strongly evident.

It definitely seems so. Scott even mentions "well I was right after all" or something to that extant, like he was indeed against having Aliens in it. I can see the producers forcing creative control of Alien Covenant.

I could see the producers being the ones who forced Ridley to cut out Noomi from the film sans the few seconds of screen time of her disemboweled corpse  :'(

Were lucky that at least we got to see the bombing sequence.


Alionic
Nov 15, 2017, 10:11:15 PM
Reply #319 on: Nov 15, 2017, 10:11:15 PM
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Scott: I think the Beast is almost run out
Then just step the hell back and let someone who still has a passion for this franchise and creature, direct a movie fans really want to see and deserve. Then maybe people don't have to go through philosophical bullshit and Alien-Puking androids with a Wagner-fetish. This is some high quality Strause-Level bullshit.

How can facehuggers, chestbursters, and xenos be scary again after we already know how each one of these kill people?





Alionic
Nov 16, 2017, 04:04:17 AM
Reply #323 on: Nov 16, 2017, 04:04:17 AM
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How can facehuggers, chestbursters, and xenos be scary again after we already know how each one of these kill people?

Oh that's easy. Write decent characters that the audience actually cares about.

...but we already know what eggs, facehuggers, chestbursters, and xenos do? How do 'decent characters' change this?


Paranoid Android
Nov 16, 2017, 04:18:05 AM
Reply #324 on: Nov 16, 2017, 04:18:05 AM
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How can a man with a knife be scary? We knew what men with knives did since before the invention of cinema.



Paranoid Android
Nov 16, 2017, 04:29:50 AM
Reply #326 on: Nov 16, 2017, 04:29:50 AM
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Everything in film is fictional. Even men with knives.

So how are men with knives scary if we know what they do?


tleilaxu
Nov 16, 2017, 06:16:30 AM
Reply #327 on: Nov 16, 2017, 06:16:30 AM
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How can facehuggers, chestbursters, and xenos be scary again after we already know how each one of these kill people?

Oh that's easy. Write decent characters that the audience actually cares about.

...but we already know what eggs, facehuggers, chestbursters, and xenos do? How do 'decent characters' change this?
Because you form an emotional attachment and feel bad when they're killed, or abducted like Newt was in Aliens, but then later when she's saved and all the bad monsters are dead you feel happy because the "decent characters" are alive and well. Then as the movie ends you sit up and clap until your hands are sore.
Or some bullshit like that.


Highland
Nov 16, 2017, 06:41:02 AM
Reply #328 on: Nov 16, 2017, 06:41:02 AM
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Well it's not scary mostly because it's about David. The Alien even in Covenant is just a sideshow. The only genuinely scary(ish) part is in the hanger which just unfolds exactly as Daniels already planned. The first half of the movie not involving David is better. The backburster scene is very good, spoiled only by the trailer.


Rudiger
Nov 16, 2017, 07:24:13 AM
Reply #329 on: Nov 16, 2017, 07:24:13 AM
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Because you form an emotional attachment and feel bad when they're killed, or abducted like Newt was in Aliens, but then later when she's saved and all the bad monsters are dead you feel happy because the "decent characters" are alive and well. Then as the movie ends you sit up and clap until your hands are sore.
Or some bullshit like that.

Good to see that your dislike of Aliens doesn't get in the way of at least understanding why the film is so effective.


 

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