Author Topic: Alien Haunts 4K Ultra HD Blu-Ray on Alien Day 2019  (Read 25630 times)

Voodoo Magic
Apr 12, 2019, 08:18:54 PM
Reply #165 on: Apr 12, 2019, 08:18:54 PM
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Predator 1987's grain is 100% the original negative.
It's DNR Blu-ray is garbage.

I'm not 100% certain of that. Some of the grain, if I remember correctly, became static and locked into place during the 20th Century Fox logo if I recall correctly. But either way, I found it distracting.

It wasn't filmed in the highest quality to begin with I recall, and while in a dark low-res projected theater screen back in 1987 it looks good, on a super 4k high resolution television screen in 2019 some of the grain was an eyesore in my opinion. The "Predator 2" disc was better fortunately.

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The 'grain-management' is a version of DNR.

I know. If accurate, the 4K die hards will not be pleased.


The Old One
Apr 12, 2019, 08:21:48 PM
Reply #166 on: Apr 12, 2019, 08:21:48 PM
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The reaction of Blu-ray.com (high 4K enthusiast population) is majority positive.


Voodoo Magic
Apr 12, 2019, 08:29:53 PM
Reply #167 on: Apr 12, 2019, 08:29:53 PM
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The reaction of Blu-ray.com (high 4K enthusiast population) is majority positive.

Yo sis, what I say. I said so many reviewers found the transfer to be exemplary. And the more grain the better with the die-hards. But sometimes it's too much for me, and for Predator it was too much for me.

I know I'm definitely not the only one. With Predator, Matrix, Close Encounters and more. Go no further than youtube or reddit to find dissenting opinions. I'm not worried if my opinion doesn't align with the 4k enthusiast majority. Cheers.


The Old One
Apr 12, 2019, 08:45:01 PM
Reply #168 on: Apr 12, 2019, 08:45:01 PM
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My post is regarding the Alien 4K transfer.
Geoff D's review;

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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Voodoo Magic
Apr 12, 2019, 09:13:29 PM
Reply #169 on: Apr 12, 2019, 09:13:29 PM
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My post is regarding the Alien 4K transfer.
DGeoff's review;

Oh sorry. When you said "the reaction of Blu-ray.com" a.k.a. "the high 4K enthusiast population", I figured you meant Predator, because the sample size is so small with Alien. The vast majority on their forum haven't seen Alien 4k yet as they wait for the physical disc to be released.


The Old One
Apr 12, 2019, 09:24:45 PM
Reply #170 on: Apr 12, 2019, 09:24:45 PM
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Apology accepted.

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Voodoo Magic
Apr 12, 2019, 09:34:56 PM
Reply #171 on: Apr 12, 2019, 09:34:56 PM
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Is DGeoff a forum member? I couldn't find an official blu-ray.com review.




The Old One
Apr 12, 2019, 10:04:26 PM
Reply #174 on: Apr 12, 2019, 10:04:26 PM
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Oh, the level of analysis is crazy.


Huggs
Apr 12, 2019, 10:41:17 PM
Reply #175 on: Apr 12, 2019, 10:41:17 PM
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I can deal with the level of noise reduction in predator. There are a few waxy shots, but overall the jungle and everything else looks fantastic.

Aliens really benefited from dnr from what I saw.

If this pack doesn't come with the Tongal shorts, than its a no go for me.


Elmazalman
Apr 12, 2019, 11:39:32 PM
Reply #176 on: Apr 12, 2019, 11:39:32 PM
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I’m really looking forward to experiencing the 4K edition on my new 4K television. Thank God natural colours are back and the (grotesque) teal & orange cast is largely (or completely?) absent, along with the boosted contrast levels.

I’m not a fan of the DC (I do enjoy the additional material), but it also deserves to be (proper 4K) archived, alongside the classic 1979 original. Disappointing that the footage, exclusive to that cut, is upscaled only.

Hoping (praying) for a (complete) 4K edition of ALIENS SE.



SiL
Apr 13, 2019, 10:35:56 AM
Reply #177 on: Apr 13, 2019, 10:35:56 AM
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Ah f**k, now I'll need to update to 4k to get the proper colours back :D


Corporal Hicks
Apr 13, 2019, 11:07:43 AM
Reply #178 on: Apr 13, 2019, 11:07:43 AM
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I'm that used to the teal that the natural colours just look strange to me.  :laugh:


Salt The Fries
Apr 13, 2019, 11:12:30 AM
Reply #179 on: Apr 13, 2019, 11:12:30 AM
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Hey guys, the 4K UHD Blu-ray came out 3 days ago in Poland. I saw it with my wife and I believe I published one of the very first professional reviews on the Internet:

https://hdtvpolska.com/obcy-recenzja-wydanie-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray/

it is written in Polish but if you click on the British flag at the top of the page, you'll get a Google translation.

There are some shots of the box (the front, back inside) there.

Below is also my quick impressions on the Blu-ray dot com forums (in English):

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I just saw the Director's Cut in 4K UHD with my wife (the film came out today in Poland, actually, and I bough the physical copy). I've always preferred it and I'm proud to say that. I also saw Alien 2 years ago in the cinema in its DC albeit its scan looked very poor in comparison to Aliens remastered in 2010 by Cameron...

I gotta say - some scenes looked bit less focused than the others but then again that's the way Alien looked to me in the cinema 2 years ago as well, so I thought it was a matter of lenses / cameras / lighting / original scan that couldn't be completely fixed.

Make no mistake, though, the 4K UHD is a HUGE improvement over the 1080p version, I checked it meticulously myself. There is also a big difference in grain structure - in 4K UHD version it looks really, really small while it is way bigger in the 1080p version. Combined with much lower resolution, all the darker scenes (coupled with steam, fog, mist, etc.) and lots of motion - the HD version looks like crap at times.

It is especially especially noticeable in all the scenes on LV-426, for example when Kane is descending into egg lair. In the 1080p version you'll see macroblocks, and signs of compression. No such thing in 4K UHD.

Alien is already a quintessence of quality cinematography, colorization, lighting and composition, but this 4K UHD release makes it as good as it was possible from its master. Same goes for its sound track. Yes, it's no Atmos but it'd be extremely difficult to pull it off from 4.1 track.

If you have any questions, I'll be more than happy to assist you, guys :)

« Last Edit: Apr 13, 2019, 11:17:25 AM by Salt The Fries »

 

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