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Author Topic: When can we expect news about Alien: Covenant sequ...  (Read 40100 times)

BishopShouldGo
Dec 01, 2017, 11:24:54 PM
Reply #495 on: Dec 01, 2017, 11:24:54 PM
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He should, or at least get out of the story's way. f**king set it up like The Martian. Someone write a kick ass script, and he can come in and direct. No yada.


Scorpio
Dec 01, 2017, 11:45:42 PM
Reply #496 on: Dec 01, 2017, 11:45:42 PM
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I bet that if Fox is confident about course correcting, they' ll try to have something ready for the franchise's 40th anniversary, in 2019.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ridley takes a back seat and acts as a producer.

This is 100% Ridley's vision.  Anyone else would just be ghost directing.


Highland
Dec 02, 2017, 02:28:32 AM
Reply #497 on: Dec 02, 2017, 02:28:32 AM
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I bet that if Fox is confident about course correcting, they' ll try to have something ready for the franchise's 40th anniversary, in 2019.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ridley takes a back seat and acts as a producer.

This is 100% Ridley's vision.  Anyone else would just be ghost directing.

I think vision is the wrong word. More like play thing. His vision was either ruined by the studio or wasn't fully fleshed out to begin with. Prometheus was quite a good way to kick things off so it's anyone's guess as to why they all got cold feet.


Scorpio
Dec 02, 2017, 03:02:30 AM
Reply #498 on: Dec 02, 2017, 03:02:30 AM
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Just because he can't do whatever he wants, doesn't mean it isn't his vision.  Every director is ultimately bound to their financiers.  Ridley still has a lot of creative freedom.


reecebomb
Dec 02, 2017, 03:16:51 AM
Reply #499 on: Dec 02, 2017, 03:16:51 AM
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Get Ridley surrounded with people who have some actual raw  talent rather then yes men and the possibility for something good to come out of it is not to be underestimated.

Forgot to add that the producers who forced Ridley to shoehorn in couple xenomorphs are even worse than yes men. But of course Ridley is one of the main reasons why the Alien series completely fell apart.

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Highland
Dec 02, 2017, 03:42:51 AM
Reply #500 on: Dec 02, 2017, 03:42:51 AM
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Just because he can't do whatever he wants, doesn't mean it isn't his vision.  Every director is ultimately bound to their financiers.  Ridley still has a lot of creative freedom.

Not wanting to have the Alien in your movie then someone telling you they want it is a pretty big change. It's not like changing a few action scenes or cutting the movie shorter.


Scorpio
Dec 02, 2017, 06:29:53 AM
Reply #501 on: Dec 02, 2017, 06:29:53 AM
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So he gave them f**kin aliens.  He wasn't catering to fanboys who just want marines mowing down dozens of aliens with pulse rifles.  It was still Ridley's vision, despite having to change it to accommodate studio demands.



monkeylove
Dec 02, 2017, 07:51:19 AM
Reply #503 on: Dec 02, 2017, 07:51:19 AM
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The final say generally comes from the franchise owners and investors. If any, that's probably why A:C ended up a mess.


acrediblesource
Dec 02, 2017, 02:19:40 PM
Reply #504 on: Dec 02, 2017, 02:19:40 PM
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We can only maintain the fact that Ridley Scott brought the Alien franchise back from extinction since all the other sequels made everyone disappointed. He brought back the allure and mystery if not bringing up more questions than giving answers. So not only did he stir the pot, he added veggies and meatballs.But A;Cov, proved that the franchise has a problem of making something that everyone expected , that being NOT MEETING EXPECTATION. ANd thats the problem everytime.


tleilaxu
Dec 02, 2017, 04:03:51 PM
Reply #505 on: Dec 02, 2017, 04:03:51 PM
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We can only maintain the fact that Ridley Scott brought the Alien franchise back from extinction since all the other sequels made everyone disappointed. He brought back the allure and mystery if not bringing up more questions than giving answers. So not only did he stir the pot, he added veggies and meatballs.But A;Cov, proved that the franchise has a problem of making something that everyone expected , that being NOT MEETING EXPECTATION. ANd thats the problem everytime.
Again, as I've said before, I believe this is largely due to the marketing campaign. They should've marketed the movie as artistic biological weirdo film that it is rather than all the RUN PRAY HIDE crap.


reecebomb
Dec 02, 2017, 06:25:55 PM
Reply #506 on: Dec 02, 2017, 06:25:55 PM
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We can only maintain the fact that Ridley Scott brought the Alien franchise back from extinction since all the other sequels made everyone disappointed. He brought back the allure and mystery if not bringing up more questions than giving answers. So not only did he stir the pot, he added veggies and meatballs.But A;Cov, proved that the franchise has a problem of making something that everyone expected , that being NOT MEETING EXPECTATION. ANd thats the problem everytime.
Again, as I've said before, I believe this is largely due to the marketing campaign. They should've marketed the movie as artistic biological weirdo film that it is rather than all the RUN PRAY HIDE crap.

Except the film was more of the latter than the former, so the marketing was actually pretty accurate. Having a villain quoting classic literature in a weak film doesn't change the fact that the film is still weak.


We can only maintain the fact that Ridley Scott brought the Alien franchise back from extinction since all the other sequels made everyone disappointed. He brought back the allure and mystery if not bringing up more questions than giving answers. So not only did he stir the pot, he added veggies and meatballs.But A;Cov, proved that the franchise has a problem of making something that everyone expected , that being NOT MEETING EXPECTATION. ANd thats the problem everytime.

Brought back the mystery :D :D :D  A lot of peoples impression is the exact opposite, you're kidding yourself if you think Covenant was less dissapointing than the worst sequels. Aliens and to me Alien 3 are great sequels and Resurrection is still a better film than Covenant. Many of us just expected the film to simply be good, the reality didn't meet our expectations. By food analogy Ridley did stir the pot, but by now the result has become a watery fruit salad with fishbones that's probably best left to rot.
Alien cultivated our imagination for decades, that mystery of it all was most likely the most important factor why the film was so highly regarded all these years. The smart subtlety of it was far more stimulating than on the nose philoshophy of Covenant which failed to mask that the film is basically a mediocre space monster flick, it's more of the same done with zero finesse.
Maybe i'm wrong here, but imo this board also used to flourish with fan theories about different aspects the films dark cold universe, the prequels gave us inconsistencies, plotholes and mcguffings to ponder rather some actual mystery.

All this could have been avoided if Ridley just made a all new sci-fi series that took some inspiration from Alien. And as i've said before if the Prometheus sequel had took it's original path something genuinely interesting could have came out of it. I have no idea, how you could fix Covenant. 


Anthony
Dec 02, 2017, 07:46:03 PM
Reply #507 on: Dec 02, 2017, 07:46:03 PM
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I'd be interested in seeing what Drew Goddard, who wrote The Martian for Ridley, could do with Alien.




 

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