Should the Queen be a part of the Prequel universe?

Started by LastSurvivor92, Jun 21, 2017, 11:43:30 AM

Should Scott include the Queen Alien as part of the Xenomorph lifecycle in his next film?

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Should the Queen be a part of the Prequel universe? (Read 31,605 times)

SM

I prefer the idea that Newt and Hicks were a reward for Ripley confronting her demons and surviving.

Scorpio

Scorpio

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So the shower scene in Covenant is so unlike Friday the 13th when you think about it, a MARRIED couple getting killed.  Total subversion of anything in Friday the 13th, of conservative/religious moral standards.

Aliens upholds conservative morals by focusing on the traditional family.  So in that sense it's more like a Friday the 13th film.  If you have pre-marital sex or take drugs, you die.  If you put career over family, you lose your family.


Uncanny Antman

Quote from: Scorpio on Feb 07, 2018, 01:56:04 AMAliens upholds conservative morals
How 'bout that gay couple?

Scorpio

Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Feb 07, 2018, 02:23:05 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Feb 07, 2018, 01:56:04 AMAliens upholds conservative morals
How 'bout that gay couple?

Gorman and Burke?  Don't worry, they were punished for their sins (within the context of the movie).

Paranoid Android

Quote from: Scorpio on Feb 07, 2018, 01:56:04 AM
So the shower scene in Covenant is so unlike Friday the 13th when you think about it, a MARRIED couple getting killed.  Total subversion of anything in Friday the 13th, of conservative/religious moral standards.

Aliens upholds conservative morals by focusing on the traditional family.  So in that sense it's more like a Friday the 13th film.  If you have pre-marital sex or take drugs, you die.  If you put career over family, you lose your family.

It's funny how you point out that conservative values are about a couple being married, and then mention Aliens as a film that upholds those values? Like, Ripley and Hicks are married? What? In what universe is the "family" in Aliens a traditional one?

This is all without mentioning that getting her flight status back was one of Ripley's reasons for going, so she still chooses career over staying on Earth and having a "traditional family"...

SM

Ricks and Upworth are interracial however, challenging conversative mores and are punished accordingly.

Scorpio

Scorpio

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Quote from: Paranoid Android on Feb 07, 2018, 05:12:26 AM


It's funny how you point out that conservative values are about a couple being married, and then mention Aliens as a film that upholds those values? Like, Ripley and Hicks are married? What? In what universe is the "family" in Aliens a traditional one?

They're not married, but they didn't share any intimate contact so they adhering to conservative morals.

Hicks did give her a psuedo-engagement gift, however.  A ring is a circular object, usually worn on the finger, and traditionally used as a gift to propose a marriage.  That's why I say 'psuedo', because it's not a ring, but it is a circular object.

And the idea of them being a 'traditional family' except a surrogate one, fits in with the modern ideas of the time.  The Brady Bunch is not a traditional family, for example.

QuoteThis is all without mentioning that getting her flight status back was one of Ripley's reasons for going, so she still chooses career over staying on Earth and having a "traditional family"...

She had no family on Earth.  What's the difference between having a traditional family on Earth or having one in space?

Quote from: SM on Feb 07, 2018, 05:58:55 AM
Ricks and Upworth are interracial however, challenging conversative mores and are punished accordingly.

That doesn't fit with 2017 conservatism, maybe 1950s, so I don't see your point.  I'm not a conservative, but pretty sure modern mainstream conservatism doesn't view that as taboo.

FenGiddel

Quote from: SM on Feb 07, 2018, 05:58:55 AM
Ricks and Upworth are interracial however, challenging conversative mores and are punished accordingly.
I thought it might have been more for their choice of music... ;)

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