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Author Topic: So, is the 'Black Goo' basicallly a 'MacGuffin'......  (Read 969 times)

Glaive
May 06, 2017, 02:54:27 PM
Topic on: May 06, 2017, 02:54:27 PM
...to link the original 'ALIEN ' to 'PROMETHEUS'?

ie: to bring the 'fossilised' Space Jockey into being only a few decades old.

Bet this has already been talked about, sorry.


Xenomorphine
May 06, 2017, 03:10:31 PM
Reply #1 on: May 06, 2017, 03:10:31 PM
A plot device? Sure... It was only ever a plot device.

In the original script, before they changed it, I think it was a mass of scarab-like insects, which would have had obvious Egyptian mythological links.


Citadel
May 06, 2017, 03:20:23 PM
Reply #2 on: May 06, 2017, 03:20:23 PM
A plot device? Sure... It was only ever a plot device.

In the original script, before they changed it, I think it was a mass of scarab-like insects, which would have had obvious Egyptian mythological links.
I'm glad they went with the goo.


Glaive
May 06, 2017, 04:07:48 PM
Reply #3 on: May 06, 2017, 04:07:48 PM
No, I mean SPECIFALLY to bring the original 'Space Jockey' as being only 10-15 years old as it is seen in ALIEN, as opposed to thousands as summized by Dallas...So the original 'Juggernaut' can be a part of this time-line without resorting to time-travel or other shenanigans...

...The 'Swiss-Army Knife' other uses of the 'goo' are merely a by-product in the writer's minds.

The way the Engineers look in the Arena I think are a strong factor.


Predaker
May 06, 2017, 04:36:23 PM
Reply #4 on: May 06, 2017, 04:36:23 PM
No, I mean SPECIFALLY to bring the original 'Space Jockey' as being only 10-15 years old as it is seen in ALIEN, as opposed to thousands as summized by Dallas...So the original 'Juggernaut' can be a part of this time-line without resorting to time-travel or other shenanigans...

...The 'Swiss-Army Knife' other uses of the 'goo' are merely a by-product in the writer's minds.

The way the Engineers look in the Arena I think are a strong factor.

They could end up doing something like that or nothing at all, while retconning the jockey to only being about 20 years old or less. It wasn't the explicit purpose of using it to retcon the jockey that lead to its introduction though.


The Cruentus
May 07, 2017, 12:33:35 PM
Reply #5 on: May 07, 2017, 12:33:35 PM
Well according to Hicks and his review,
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Omegamorph
May 07, 2017, 12:37:13 PM
Reply #6 on: May 07, 2017, 12:37:13 PM
Well according to Hicks and his review,
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Yeah, and Prometheus doesn't actually state that the Space Jockey was an Engineer either...


The Cruentus
May 07, 2017, 12:38:52 PM
Reply #7 on: May 07, 2017, 12:38:52 PM
Well according to Hicks and his review,
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Yeah, and Prometheus doesn't actually state that the Space Jockey was an Engineer either...

No, Ridley Scott did...at least according to folks around here.


Infected
May 07, 2017, 01:15:33 PM
Reply #8 on: May 07, 2017, 01:15:33 PM
Its a fossilized cock!!!!!


Omegamorph
May 07, 2017, 01:30:01 PM
Reply #9 on: May 07, 2017, 01:30:01 PM
No, Ridley Scott did...at least according to folks around here.
the point being that both films imply exactly what they want to imply

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The Cruentus
May 07, 2017, 01:39:39 PM
Reply #10 on: May 07, 2017, 01:39:39 PM
No, Ridley Scott did...at least according to folks around here.
the point being that both films imply exactly what they want to imply

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I get what you mean and perhaps it is wishful thinking but the SJ = Engineer was more pointed out, with Ridley even saying its the same species.
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Predaker
May 07, 2017, 02:08:43 PM
Reply #11 on: May 07, 2017, 02:08:43 PM
No, Ridley Scott did...at least according to folks around here.
the point being that both films imply exactly what they want to imply

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I get what you mean and perhaps it is wishful thinking but the SJ = Engineer was more pointed out, with Ridley even saying its the same species.
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Omegamorph
May 07, 2017, 02:32:47 PM
Reply #12 on: May 07, 2017, 02:32:47 PM
"Witness the creation of fear"...


 

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