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Author Topic: Empire's ALIEN COVENANT Exclusive Cover, and Image...  (Read 65799 times)

Nyarlathotep
Apr 21, 2017, 10:36:06 PM
Reply #555 on: Apr 21, 2017, 10:36:06 PM
I love the new practical chestburster, but i think we will miss the classsic "snake" version.
Same, hopefully this doesn't mean that we'll never be seeing the classic burster again.

The classic burster just looks like a snake or a worm with teeth, not very scary or original.  The special effect of it moving across the table is almost comical.  The bambi burster from Alien 3 and the deacon look great, though.
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bobcunk
Apr 21, 2017, 10:58:00 PM
Reply #556 on: Apr 21, 2017, 10:58:00 PM
He isn't really wrong, the part where it runs away in alien does loo bad. This one looks like the alien 3 buster.


St_Eddie
Apr 21, 2017, 11:11:20 PM
Reply #557 on: Apr 21, 2017, 11:11:20 PM
He isn't really wrong, the part where it runs away in alien does loo bad.

Agreed.  I adore 'Alien', it's one of my all-time favourite films but that moment definitely falls into the category of what TV Tropes would refer to as 'narm'.

See also; the jarring cut from dummy Ash head to Ian Holm sticking his head through a hole in the table and the man-in-a-suit shot of the xenomorph outside of the shuttle.

Aside from those three moments; a masterful work of art and a true masterpiece of a filum.

« Last Edit: Apr 21, 2017, 11:15:14 PM by St_Eddie »

bobcunk
Apr 21, 2017, 11:18:46 PM
Reply #558 on: Apr 21, 2017, 11:18:46 PM
I never understood why they cut it like that. All they had to do was cut back to Ripley reaction and then the the real head.


The Alien Predator
Apr 21, 2017, 11:20:13 PM
Reply #559 on: Apr 21, 2017, 11:20:13 PM
I love the new practical chestburster, but i think we will miss the classsic "snake" version.
Same, hopefully this doesn't mean that we'll never be seeing the classic burster again.

The classic burster just looks like a snake or a worm with teeth, not very scary or original.  The special effect of it moving across the table is almost comical.  The bambi burster from Alien 3 and the deacon look great, though.
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St_Eddie
Apr 21, 2017, 11:46:05 PM
Reply #561 on: Apr 21, 2017, 11:46:05 PM
I never understood why they cut it like that. All they had to do was cut back to Ripley reaction and then the the real head.

It certainly is baffling but what's even more baffling is why Ridley Scott didn't fix it for the Director's Cut.  It's one of the worst edits that I've ever seen in a film.


Predaker
Apr 22, 2017, 12:50:12 AM
Reply #562 on: Apr 22, 2017, 12:50:12 AM
We really don't have the elements to make any conclusions.
We don't know if the planet is really Paradise.
We know almost nothing about engineers. Race in decline? Secluded sect? Fallen angels? Terraformists?...
Who are the gods? The engineers ? The Hall Of Heads represents gods??

They were once a thriving civilisation millions of years ago, seeding Earth with humans and repeatedly making visits. Eventually they intended to destroy us but that never happened because lots of them died off. LV-223 became an ancient tomb and David wipes out what is left of them on their homeworld. The lone engineer on LV-223 was asleep for ~2,000 years and no one woke him up until humans got there, David has the engineer's homeworld to himself for nearly a decade, and their presence as a living civilisation is non-existent in the original films.

They definitely aren't hiding from us, they're just gone now. Unless Ridley Scott really does intend to make "Awakening" some sort of prequel to Covenant, there won't be any more engineers after this.


ᴄᴏᴀʟᴇsᴄᴇᴅᴄʜᴀᴏs
Apr 22, 2017, 01:26:18 AM
Reply #563 on: Apr 22, 2017, 01:26:18 AM
We really don't have the elements to make any conclusions.
We don't know if the planet is really Paradise.
We know almost nothing about engineers. Race in decline? Secluded sect? Fallen angels? Terraformists?...
Who are the gods? The engineers ? The Hall Of Heads represents gods??

They were once a thriving civilisation millions of years ago, seeding Earth with humans and repeatedly making visits. Eventually they intended to destroy us but that never happened because lots of them died off. LV-223 became an ancient tomb and David wipes out what is left of them on their homeworld. The lone engineer on LV-223 was asleep for ~2,000 years and no one woke him up until humans got there, David has the engineer's homeworld to himself for nearly a decade, and their presence as a living civilisation is non-existent in the original films.

They definitely aren't hiding from us, they're just gone now. Unless Ridley Scott really does intend to make "Awakening" some sort of prequel to Covenant, there won't be any more engineers after this.

If the classic Alien is a creation of David's then there's still at least one last living Engineer. If David is recreating the Alien, then yeah, it's possible all of them are dead.


SpeedyMaxx
Apr 22, 2017, 01:35:37 AM
Reply #564 on: Apr 22, 2017, 01:35:37 AM
The alien can be created by David using the Engineer's existing tech and black mutagen, which he has learned how to use. None need be left alive.


SiL
Apr 22, 2017, 01:37:29 AM
Reply #565 on: Apr 22, 2017, 01:37:29 AM
Then who's in the Derelict pilot's chair?


Xenomorphine
Apr 22, 2017, 01:50:13 AM
Reply #566 on: Apr 22, 2017, 01:50:13 AM
And even then it was old!

Kind of! But that's why they combined it with the innocence of a young ballerina. Helps to subvert expectations through subversion.

This thing is more like a blobby tadpole.

Why would they shoot down their own ship?

Iron Dome isn't primarily designed to shoot down aircraft. It's there to target and destroy individual missiles and even mortar shells which are headed towards civilian areas. The urns would be easy for even a system like that, much less something millions of years in advance.

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Who's to say they're are as violent to there own kind as humans are?

That's why I gave the example of asteroid strikes. :) Stuff like that can come out of nowhere and you'd either want some kind of energy shield (which clearly isn't present here) or a way of destroying them before they hit populated areas.

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bobcunk
Apr 22, 2017, 01:56:25 AM
Reply #568 on: Apr 22, 2017, 01:56:25 AM
As others have said, the neomorph design is very generic.  Monsters such as that are ten a penny in movies and videogames.  The first thing I thought of when seeing it, was the creature from the 1999 remake of 'House on Haunted Hill' (itself an unused design by Dick Smith for 1981's 'Ghost Story')...


The first thing I thought of was, the evil dead demon.


Scorpio
Apr 22, 2017, 02:20:29 AM
Reply #569 on: Apr 22, 2017, 02:20:29 AM
I never understood why they cut it like that. All they had to do was cut back to Ripley reaction and then the the real head.

Because a cut like that would be way more cheesier.  Ridley Scott doesn't like to BS the audience.


 

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