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Author Topic: New Footage Shown at CinemaCon!  (Read 28366 times)

Ultramorph
Apr 02, 2017, 05:47:16 PM
Reply #270 on: Apr 02, 2017, 05:47:16 PM
Confused about one thing...the footage reports say the derelict is in the act of docking above the citadel, while the trailer shows it clearly crashed in the forest.

What could have transpired to cause that? Maybe David tried to take off and do the same thing to another planet?

They also say that there were evidently other Engineer ships escorting David. Maybe they decided to shoot him down after he started nuking the inhabitants with the accelerant. But what became of those ships then?

David cut a deal with the Jockeys to wipe out the Engineers.  ;D



Denton Smalls
Apr 02, 2017, 05:54:57 PM
Reply #272 on: Apr 02, 2017, 05:54:57 PM
If Covenant is indeed set hundreds of years after David attacked the engineers, then Shaw is probably dead or was left in an engineer cryo-pod. Judging by that nap the engineer in Prometheus took, I'd say it's entirely plausible. But I wonder if the effects of such a long sleep would effect humans differently than the engineers. Ripley pulled a long stretch, but not hundreds of years. Could brain death or insanity occur after say, 100 -150 years? Either way, David definitely appears to be hostile towards humanity, whether this extended to Shaw or not is the thing. I Personally don't think it's set that far into the future from Prometheus, but you never know.

I'm not sure those Engineer pods are compatible with humans...but maybe.



Confused about one thing...the footage reports say the derelict is in the act of docking above the citadel, while the trailer shows it clearly crashed in the forest.

What could have transpired to cause that? Maybe David tried to take off and do the same thing to another planet?

They also say that there were evidently other Engineer ships escorting David. Maybe they decided to shoot him down after he started nuking the inhabitants with the accelerant. But what became of those ships then?

Good point! Maybe they took off to earth to finish the LV-223 Engineers' plan? That might make for a Independence Day-like sequel.

« Last Edit: Apr 02, 2017, 05:59:12 PM by Denton Smalls »

Huggs
Apr 02, 2017, 06:51:15 PM
Reply #273 on: Apr 02, 2017, 06:51:15 PM
"10 years after Prometheus".

Yeah, I was wondering why they said "hundreds of years after" in the article. I was under the assumption it was only 10 or some odd years later.

As far as the engineer pods being used for humans, its just a what-if. There's no telling how much time it took for david and shaw to reach paradise. If Shaw stayed awake, maybe there were ample supplies from Vicker's pod to sustain her. But David is pretty slick at figuring things out and making them work, and if female or adolescent engineers are comparable to humans in size, it might be possible.


Ultramorph
Apr 02, 2017, 06:53:17 PM
Reply #274 on: Apr 02, 2017, 06:53:17 PM
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prometheusfire08
Apr 02, 2017, 08:25:01 PM
Reply #275 on: Apr 02, 2017, 08:25:01 PM
I wonder if this is Davids 1st stop or has he done this to other worlds ?


Tonyhartmorph
Apr 02, 2017, 08:53:02 PM
Reply #276 on: Apr 02, 2017, 08:53:02 PM
I love how crazy this film sounds. Scott is going full bore with both barrels it seems.

Fox should just release the footage altogether to stop the increasing layers of speculation... I, for one, am definitely not impressed with what has transpired from leaks, quite the opposite, being quite appalled, especially at everything revolving around David, somehow stitching himself up, when he clearly could not even get up nor get out of the ship on his own at the end of Prometheus, and surely the whole android going bonkers repetitive idea is getting awfully stale now, so they better have a far better story than that...also, the black goo would mutate the engineers, and we clearly see from the petrified corpses, that many were not transformed and looked like the corpses found in Pompei, meaning that they were killed instantly, so death by goo is a big stretch from the various postures of the various corpses in the leaked photos... one thing these trailers and leaks did to me though, they did what they were set out to do, making me more and more curious and eager to watch the movie... But I am not liking what I am seeing, especially psycho David killing people indiscriminately, humans and Engineers alike... Where is the logic in that, not analysing data, separating the innocent from the guilty...? And there is no way David created the Xenos... The Space Jockey cause of death and the cargo hold fulla eggs that Kane found in ALIEN, clearly disprove that, as does the stated fact that the Derelict ship was dated as being 2 thousand years old and the ALIENS assertion that there had to be a Queen to mass produce such vast quantity of eggs...

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SpeedyMaxx
Apr 02, 2017, 11:02:22 PM
Reply #277 on: Apr 02, 2017, 11:02:22 PM
I mean, who knows but this seems like a lot of feverish reimagining to get away from the basic reveal that hasn't changed in months: David kills off all the Engineers/space jockeys because Ridley Scott got bored with them and decided to go back to the alien.

There is literally no reason David and Shaw would wind up on some other planet with different aliens after they were explicitly said to be going to the Engineers' homeworld. In fact I think the current plot synopsis still indicates that's where they are.


The Alien Predator
Apr 03, 2017, 12:15:03 AM
Reply #278 on: Apr 03, 2017, 12:15:03 AM
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Same here, it's quite interesting. I look forward to finding out when the film finally comes out and I don't mind which ever answer it turns out to be.


MajorB
Apr 03, 2017, 12:45:59 AM
Reply #279 on: Apr 03, 2017, 12:45:59 AM
I mean, who knows but this seems like a lot of feverish reimagining to get away from the basic reveal that hasn't changed in months: David kills off all the Engineers/space jockeys because Ridley Scott got bored with them and decided to go back to the alien.

There is literally no reason David and Shaw would wind up on some other planet with different aliens after they were explicitly said to be going to the Engineers' homeworld. In fact I think the current plot synopsis still indicates that's where they are.

If they removed the Engineer massacre from one cut of the film and are now reinstating it with different creatures, is it possible that Ridley and/or Fox backpedaled at the very last minute on killing off the Engineers?


Denton Smalls
Apr 03, 2017, 12:49:31 AM
Reply #280 on: Apr 03, 2017, 12:49:31 AM
I honestly can't wait. If they do decide to center the plot around David, Fassbender is one of the best actors working today imo, so they could do worse.

I'd much rather it be him carrying the weight of the film and not the Engineers, who I thought were massively underwhelming and contradictory to the Space Jockey in Alien.

I think the more they can distance themselves, the better the movie will turn out.

Is anyone else almost sad that the film is almost out? On one hand I can't wait to see it, while also I'm not looking forward to the long wait to the next one, if there is one.

There's something really fun about all the buildup and speculation.


rabidranger
Apr 03, 2017, 01:00:54 AM
Reply #281 on: Apr 03, 2017, 01:00:54 AM
I mean, who knows but this seems like a lot of feverish reimagining to get away from the basic reveal that hasn't changed in months: David kills off all the Engineers/space jockeys because Ridley Scott got bored with them and decided to go back to the alien.

There is literally no reason David and Shaw would wind up on some other planet with different aliens after they were explicitly said to be going to the Engineers' homeworld. In fact I think the current plot synopsis still indicates that's where they are.

Who says he is bored with the Engineers? Also, isn't the objective of films like Prometheus and Alien: Covenant to lead to Alien anyway?

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Protozoid
Apr 03, 2017, 01:41:16 AM
Reply #282 on: Apr 03, 2017, 01:41:16 AM
Depending on who you ask, Prometheus was never intended to connect to Alien. Damon Lindelof has said so, and if Ridley contradicted him I've never heard it. It seems that attitudes changed. Ridley makes it sound like his own idea to change course, so hopefully it wasn't something forced upon him by the studio. There were something like 15 drafts of the script before they changed it from Prometheus 2 to an Alien prequel.


SpeedyMaxx
Apr 03, 2017, 01:51:37 AM
Reply #283 on: Apr 03, 2017, 01:51:37 AM
If they removed the Engineer massacre from one cut of the film and are now reinstating it with different creatures, is it possible that Ridley and/or Fox backpedaled at the very last minute on killing off the Engineers?

Anything is possible. But IMO it's far more likely the planet is exactly what the official synopsis says it is, that those were the Engineers, and that a handful of eyewitnesses have mistaken different clothes, perhaps a slightly different design or just the wrong glimpse for 'something else'.


rabidranger
Apr 03, 2017, 03:32:35 AM
Reply #284 on: Apr 03, 2017, 03:32:35 AM
If they removed the Engineer massacre from one cut of the film and are now reinstating it with different creatures, is it possible that Ridley and/or Fox backpedaled at the very last minute on killing off the Engineers?

Anything is possible. But IMO it's far more likely the planet is exactly what the official synopsis says it is, that those were the Engineers, and that a handful of eyewitnesses have mistaken different clothes, perhaps a slightly different design or just the wrong glimpse for 'something else'.

What is the official synopsis?


 

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