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Author Topic: New Footage Shown at CinemaCon!  (Read 30317 times)

laborer983
Mar 31, 2017, 02:39:21 PM
Reply #150 on: Mar 31, 2017, 02:39:21 PM
In order to create  one must first destroy


laborer
Mar 31, 2017, 02:46:11 PM
Reply #151 on: Mar 31, 2017, 02:46:11 PM
So where is Shaw while this is happening? She would probably be against David's Mass killing right?!


Rudiger
Mar 31, 2017, 02:56:03 PM
Reply #152 on: Mar 31, 2017, 02:56:03 PM
Can't say I'm overly excited.

For me, two of the greatest things about Alien were the alien itself (and the way it was shot), and the whole mystery surrounding the space jockey and all those damn eggs. Both were so "other worldly"...apart from the final man-in-suit shot. I'm finding that the more things are explained, the less interesting they have become.

After Aliens, the law of diminishing returns most definitely applies. Cameron delivered the perfect sequel, and I wish it had ended there. Nothing since has been anywhere near as good, IMHO of course.

Oh well.


rabidranger
Mar 31, 2017, 03:06:19 PM
Reply #153 on: Mar 31, 2017, 03:06:19 PM
Oh crikey this is exciting. Taps right into the whole religious theme that began with Prometheus, but not in the sucky way I'd feared.

And it adds some serious context to the word 'Covenant', too.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Looks like such a cheap cop-out!

I mean David simply bombs them for what? It was clear by the end of Prometheus that Shaw wanted to know the 'why' answer. She went to learn more. Not to kill the Engineers. And why would David want to kill the Engineers, if it was his sole decision? He is least bothered to save humans on Earth. He was curious robot and wanted to learn and understand the Engineers universe. He was enjoying so much in exploring the juggernaut, hologram recordings, understanding and decoding their language etc. Why would he want to destroy them and all and choose to live alone just to create demons out of the black goo? All alone!

It's way out of the characters of David and Shaw. Can't digest it!

How is this out of character for David? While he demonstrated admiration for the Engineer tech he seemed to have a degree of contempt for both the Engineers and humanity.

Can't say I'm overly excited.

For me, two of the greatest things about Alien were the alien itself (and the way it was shot), and the whole mystery surrounding the space jockey and all those damn eggs. Both were so "other worldly"...apart from the final man-in-suit shot. I'm finding that the more things are explained, the less interesting they have become.

After Aliens, the law of diminishing returns most definitely applies. Cameron delivered the perfect sequel, and I wish it had ended there. Nothing since has been anywhere near as good, IMHO of course.

Oh well.

So, you don't want any answers or just don't like the answers we're getting?

« Last Edit: Mar 31, 2017, 03:08:55 PM by rabidranger »

salomonj
Mar 31, 2017, 03:41:56 PM
Reply #154 on: Mar 31, 2017, 03:41:56 PM
Then I’m hoping Paradise is just one of their sacred worlds,

I'm hoping Ridley kicks the bucket before he makes another of these films.


..and maybe someone at Fox can
give this franchise back to Walter Hill and Giler.

Let me guess... IMDB right??
Woah woah woah...Not everyone from IMDB is a f**king asshole. Ive been a longtime member of IMDB


Pvt. Himmel
Mar 31, 2017, 03:50:18 PM
Reply #155 on: Mar 31, 2017, 03:50:18 PM
Then I’m hoping Paradise is just one of their sacred worlds,

I'm hoping Ridley kicks the bucket before he makes another of these films.


..and maybe someone at Fox can
give this franchise back to Walter Hill and Giler.

Let me guess... IMDB right??
Woah woah woah...Not everyone from IMDB is a f**king asshole. Ive been a longtime member of IMDB
'

I know that. ;) :)


Corporal Hicks
Mar 31, 2017, 03:51:52 PM
Reply #156 on: Mar 31, 2017, 03:51:52 PM
So this wasn't actually a trailer. It was con exclusive footage.


Evanus
Mar 31, 2017, 03:52:33 PM
Reply #157 on: Mar 31, 2017, 03:52:33 PM
So where is Shaw while this is happening? She would probably be against David's Mass killing right?!
If I remember correctly, one of the leaks said
Spoiler (click to show/hide)



Corporal Hicks
Mar 31, 2017, 04:01:59 PM
Reply #159 on: Mar 31, 2017, 04:01:59 PM
Convention exclusive footage. Won't see official release.


Pvt. Himmel
Mar 31, 2017, 04:07:09 PM
Reply #160 on: Mar 31, 2017, 04:07:09 PM
Convention exclusive footage. Won't see official release.
Figures. But at least we are not far off from release day.

A little more of a descriptive account.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

« Last Edit: Mar 31, 2017, 04:16:13 PM by Pvt. Himmel »


shawsbaby
Mar 31, 2017, 04:18:44 PM
Reply #162 on: Mar 31, 2017, 04:18:44 PM
Convention exclusive footage. Won't see official release.

You mean it won´t be included in the theatrical cut?

I think he means it won't be released as promotional material prior to the film's release. Screening this scene and then leaving it out of the film wouldn't make sense at this point.


The_Foxcatcher
Mar 31, 2017, 04:38:36 PM
Reply #163 on: Mar 31, 2017, 04:38:36 PM
Oh crikey this is exciting. Taps right into the whole religious theme that began with Prometheus, but not in the sucky way I'd feared.

And it adds some serious context to the word 'Covenant', too.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Looks like such a cheap cop-out!

I mean David simply bombs them for what? It was clear by the end of Prometheus that Shaw wanted to know the 'why' answer. She went to learn more. Not to kill the Engineers. And why would David want to kill the Engineers, if it was his sole decision? He is least bothered to save humans on Earth. He was curious robot and wanted to learn and understand the Engineers universe. He was enjoying so much in exploring the juggernaut, hologram recordings, understanding and decoding their language etc. Why would he want to destroy them and all and choose to live alone just to create demons out of the black goo? All alone!

It's way out of the characters of David and Shaw. Can't digest it!

How is this out of character for David? While he demonstrated admiration for the Engineer tech he seemed to have a degree of contempt for both the Engineers and humanity.

Can't say I'm overly excited.

For me, two of the greatest things about Alien were the alien itself (and the way it was shot), and the whole mystery surrounding the space jockey and all those damn eggs. Both were so "other worldly"...apart from the final man-in-suit shot. I'm finding that the more things are explained, the less interesting they have become.

After Aliens, the law of diminishing returns most definitely applies. Cameron delivered the perfect sequel, and I wish it had ended there. Nothing since has been anywhere near as good, IMHO of course.

Oh well.

So, you don't want any answers or just don't like the answers we're getting?


Oh really?

What makes you think he had a degree of contempt towards both humans and the engineers?

Just because he experimented on Holloway who always acted as a disrespectful dick to David or just because one mad engineer ripped his head off?

Does that make David simply blow off the whole engineer civilization without even exchanging a dialog with them?






chris_bert
Mar 31, 2017, 04:49:20 PM
Reply #164 on: Mar 31, 2017, 04:49:20 PM
Well...there's always hope that if...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

...then maybe we'll get some type of crossover once Ridley's done with the final film where a director produces a movie like "Avengers Versus Xenomorphs" where Tony Stark really doesn't want to help the Avengers kill all of the xenomorphs on Earth to wipe out mankind because he wants to use their DNA to create his own weapon to sell to the highest-paying bad guy or evil government group and the rest of the Avengers have to help him find his moral compass and force him to do what's right, etc. I would probably pay good money to see this at the theater. Remember you heard it here first folks.


 

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