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Author Topic: Alien: The Coloring Book  (Read 14107 times)

The Eighth Passenger
Aug 11, 2016, 04:19:48 PM
Reply #15 on: Aug 11, 2016, 04:19:48 PM
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Not sure how its any different than say adults playing videogames, watching pixar films, or collecting nerdy scifi merchandise.

True, although many video games are only suitable for adults with regards to gameplay complexity and content. And Pixar films specifically cater for the more sophisticated adult sense of humour as well.

Though I suppose there's nothing wrong with colouring-in stuff as a kind of relaxation therapy, just never thought that it could become a fad.


Corporal Hicks
Aug 11, 2016, 04:28:40 PM
Reply #16 on: Aug 11, 2016, 04:28:40 PM
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Now that it's been said, I think my Mrs actually has a Harry Potter one...


Perfect-Organism
Aug 11, 2016, 05:54:07 PM
Reply #17 on: Aug 11, 2016, 05:54:07 PM
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It's not as bad as those Pokemon Go players.  Fully grown ass man walking around everywhere playing this thing.  Everywhere!  I had to try it just to understand how it works.  I mean I work in the toy industry, but the stares I was getting from old ladies bit right into my soul...


Corporal Hicks
Aug 11, 2016, 06:40:46 PM
Reply #18 on: Aug 11, 2016, 06:40:46 PM
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Comeon now, there's nothing wrong with that game. It gets folk out the house and walking and the adult playing it will have grown up with it. I certainly did.


Perfect-Organism
Aug 11, 2016, 07:28:18 PM
Reply #19 on: Aug 11, 2016, 07:28:18 PM
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I won't deny that it's fun.  But I honestly feel like I'm walking around with some sort of porno in my hands when I play that thing.  I consider it a guilty pleasure of sorts, being 41 years old, and I feel the same way about the whole Aliens thing, and even my entire career in the toy industry for that matter.  I just think as a society, we've become a bunch of big kids, but at the same time, I know it isn't harming anybody.  While I am a Canadian, I come from Poland and I remember all the hardships that my family endured.  I know it's harmless, but I can't help thinking that all of this "fun" makes me feel 20% more spineless.  It's just a personal observation.


lol
Aug 11, 2016, 08:27:05 PM
Reply #20 on: Aug 11, 2016, 08:27:05 PM
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Well there are many reasons and origins behind such science fiction creatures or monsters in general.

- 1 of wich is the hunter - prey relationship.  - long ago we humans were hunted.
What we see here is an animal life form that is capable of hunting and killing man , despite all of mankinds technology and weaponry. - basicaly putting us back down on the food chain.

- 2 Also everything we understand comes from earth. - Teeth, Mouths, breeding, Viruses, parasites, deseases, all real stuff that gets translated into monsters in our imagination. - specialy when we speculate about alien life form. leading me to the third reason.

 - 3 is it not slightly possible that somewhere out there,  in the deep dark endless arms of our basic universe is a true monster.
That nature can create living nightmares.

- The thing that makes it feel like toys and us be like children - is because company's keep selling it and basicaly downgrades the entire things as mere products , products that look like the things we love.

I hate the fact that they are making a colour book lol.


Perfect-Organism
Aug 11, 2016, 09:08:23 PM
Reply #21 on: Aug 11, 2016, 09:08:23 PM
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I don't think that the subject matter has become any less mature.  I just think that adults have become a lot more immature.

Is it possible that there are monsters like these out there somewhere?  There is a long debate about that in another thread somewhere, but you really need not look any further than our own planet.  Would you rather be stuck in a room with an alien or with a hungry Bengal Tiger?  Or a 20 foot alligator?


windebieste
Aug 11, 2016, 10:02:05 PM
Reply #22 on: Aug 11, 2016, 10:02:05 PM
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Yes. Adults like colouring in books.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.  I know a ton of adults (myself included) who are vary proud of their toy collections - including some of you - so why not colouring in books?

Speaking of toys... the 1979 Kenner Alien wasn't just based on an R-rated movie - it was the first toy to be made based on a movie of such a rating.  And yes.  It was marketed at children. 'AGES 5 AND UP' is clearly visible on the box upper right corner of the figure's box recommending the manufacturer's age group the item was intended for.  It set 2 precendents  right there.  Combine them together and you get The first R-rated toy ever made was marketed at kids.  Too much lols right there.

Interestingly enough, when Gentle Giant released their massive 24 inch Kenner tribute figures, which are basically oversized repressings of the original 1979 Kenner figure, they were also age recommended.  On their figure's box, however, you will see 'AGES 14 AND UP' badged in exactly in the same location. 

That was in 2015.

-Windebieste.


Perfect-Organism
Aug 11, 2016, 10:32:54 PM
Reply #23 on: Aug 11, 2016, 10:32:54 PM
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Yes. Adults like colouring in books.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.  I know a ton of adults (myself included) who are vary proud of their toy collections - including some of you - so why not colouring in books?

Speaking of toys... the 1979 Kenner Alien wasn't just based on an R-rated movie - it was the first toy to be made based on a movie of such a rating.  And yes.  It was marketed at children. 'AGES 5 AND UP' is clearly visible on the box upper right corner of the figure's box recommending the manufacturer's age group the item was intended for.  It set 2 precendents  right there.  Combine them together and you get The first R-rated toy ever made was marketed at kids.  Too much lols right there.

Interestingly enough, when Gentle Giant released their massive 24 inch Kenner tribute figures, which are basically oversized repressings of the original 1979 Kenner figure, they were also age recommended.  On their figure's box, however, you will see 'AGES 14 AND UP' badged in exactly in the same location. 

That was in 2015.

-Windebieste.

I am definitely the pot calling the kettle black.  lol.  As a toy designer, I have loads of toys that I designed or for reference.  But I am a toy industry professional.  I don't know if its a good or bad thing on a society level that so many adults are into toys these days.  I don't even know if the idea of good or bad really applies here.  To each his own.  But I can say without much doubt that it is a serious change from previous generations, and what it means for society, time will tell.  Can you imagine a guy from the 18th century playing with toys?  (I know collecting is a different matter, but still)

Regarding the 1979 and 2015 alien "dolls", it seems to me that they used a pantograph to literally scale up the original alien (or a digital scan).  If I remember correctly, even some of the etching errors of the original mold came through in the new version.

Damn that hissing kid is the most freaky part of that commercial...   :laugh:




windebieste
Aug 11, 2016, 11:23:54 PM
Reply #26 on: Aug 11, 2016, 11:23:54 PM
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I am definitely the pot calling the kettle black.  lol.  As a toy designer, I have loads of toys that I designed or for reference.

So that's how you spend your time.  Nice. 

The 2015 Gentle Giant figure is a digital scan to the best of my knowledge.  It has a weird 'glassy' finish to it.  Some of the super fine surface detailing observable on the Kenner item is missing.  You'd expect it to be amplified by 25% to match the upscaling but instead it feels like it's been 'smoothed out'.  I'm thinking it's a limitation of the technology, either at the scanning or 3D model rendering stage prior to preparing the molds for its production run.

Here's the torso of each compared side by side.



As you can see, the 25% larger Gentle Giant item on the right looks like it's actually from a 25% smaller figure.  I attribute the loss in fidelity and sharpness in detail to the scanning process or later in development. 

Anyway, it really shouldn't have been released as a kid's toy way back in '79.  That in itself is a remarkable story worth telling!  Would have loved to have seen a colouring book back then.  At the very least 'The Illustrated ALIEN' has been declared to be one of the greatest movie based comics ever made.  That wasn't kid's stuff, either.

-Windebieste.





 

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