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Author Topic: Music of Alien Covenant  (Read 8059 times)

Enoch
Mar 07, 2016, 06:56:16 PM
Topic on: Mar 07, 2016, 06:56:16 PM

« Last Edit: Mar 07, 2016, 11:38:44 PM by Enoch »

The Eighth Passenger
Mar 07, 2016, 08:51:03 PM
Reply #1 on: Mar 07, 2016, 08:51:03 PM
I very much liked those two and some others Marc Streitenfeld composed,
but I want to hear more music like this:

Holst The Planets - Neptune, the Mystic

Fun fact: Ridley used parts of Isao Tomita's synth interpretation of Holst's, The Planets as a temp track for Alien. Ridley was also very keen on hiring Tomita to compose the entire score for Alien. Unfortunately the studio didn't want to hire someone who hadn't composed any soundtracks for films before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF_xdAkqZoA&index=7&list=PL068B4CED709798DE


This track (from 1:50 onwards) was played during filming for Sigourney Weaver as she was strapping herself in while preparing to blow the alien out of the airlock and during the shuttle launch sequence as a way for her to focus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsZqXdPZb8s&index=1&list=PL068B4CED709798DE

The computers talking to each other also influenced the opening scene of Alien when the bridge starts coming alive.

« Last Edit: Mar 07, 2016, 09:01:46 PM by The Eighth Passenger »

Enoch
Mar 07, 2016, 09:50:30 PM
Reply #2 on: Mar 07, 2016, 09:50:30 PM
@The Eighth Passenger

Very interesting...
Nice info! :)


Enoch
Mar 13, 2016, 02:05:32 PM
Reply #3 on: Mar 13, 2016, 02:05:32 PM
Engineers use flute of god Pan (only god who died), and that flute was also used by Pythagoras (Musica universalis/music of the sphere; read his philosopy of numbers!), so we have here great symbolic imoptance ;)

This one is mystical and could be interesting to hear some background flute melodies in Engineers theme in Covenant...
I also presume and I am very sure that we are going to see someone new (ultimate creator), so I m still collecting some classical and contemporary (Electronic) music that could be very well integrated in Covenant soundtrack. I hope that Harry Gregson-Williams knows how to bring together creepy and mystical non-orchestral (organic and mechanoid hybrid sounds) tones with classical orchestral music... I liked disonant and polymorphic sounds and use of strings, bass, Glockenspiel and ominous brass and flute sections in original... so it would be nice to emphasis use of that music in Covenant because it has great philosophical and mystical note to it. I myself would introduce one or two note of organ sound because of atmospheric background that organ (organic sound of breath and universe) very well produce and then combine it with some deep (basso) choir singing one or two deep notes + all above mentioned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtt4zytL0uE

So I am speaking about combining flute or any classical music instrument and melodies from above with something like Stockhausen's artifical and mechaniud sounds:

PLAY THIS TWO TRACKS TOGETHER BUT PLAY SECOND FROM 00:06 because it starts from there, and you will hear
what I was speaking about. :)

https://youtu.be/NJfI_wwLbQs


I will post more music melodies that I want to hear in Covenant...


P.S.
We need this music ;D
https://youtu.be/JmTKsexYWzM
https://youtu.be/tkHh4JOnjZs

« Last Edit: Mar 13, 2016, 02:35:01 PM by Enoch »

Stolen
Mar 13, 2016, 04:20:35 PM
Reply #4 on: Mar 13, 2016, 04:20:35 PM
Very good topic. I have not finished listen, but there are already some very good things. May be too predictable or conventional. It takes something more contemporary and with a cinematic approach in my opinion. Something between Alien and Prometheus, while trying something new.

I had already said, but I loved the soundtrack of Prometheus. Streitenfeld did a very good job, combining organic and mechanical sound. "Weyland" is a great theme, intimidating, strange and even disturbing. Mention to "Invitation", "Planet", "Earth" and "Space Jockey" ...

But the best is the two themes made by Harry Gregson-Williams. It was in perfect harmony with the images of the film. Wonderful, deep, human, mysterious, powerful ...
HGW is perfect choice for this.


Enoch
Mar 13, 2016, 05:24:08 PM
Reply #5 on: Mar 13, 2016, 05:24:08 PM
Yes, Harry is completely trained in classic way of orchestral music as he himself said...

So his main influences for two tracks in Prometheus, especially for Life, were composers like Sibelius and his second, fourth, sixth symphony and some other works, Holst Planets, some Wagnerian elements...

I would use something like this for some ultimate creature or its final step of creation...
https://youtu.be/jgMvE-_8hpk?t=21m16s


Quote
"Gregson-Williams first worked with the latter on his first Ridley Scott film – 2005’s Kingdom of Heaven, a Satellite Award-winning score he describes as ‘very classical’. A former chorister and music scholar himself, he describes his musical heritage and influences as largely classical in origin, and ‘very English’."

ELGAR, HOLST, Vaughan Williams, Britten and Peter Maxwell Davies comes to mind when speaking about his work on Prometheus


About Harry Gregson Williams work on Prometheus and review of his two tracks:
Quote
The main signature Life theme is surrendered to us in its entirety in Track 4, and it could well be the greatest piece of music that Harry Gregson-Williams has composed, thus far. This is achingly gorgeous – at once euphoric, wondrous and spellbinding. It is an elegy written for both the promise of the stars, and a spiritual fanfare for the miracle of life, itself. If Sir David Attenborough gets put into hyper-sleep and is then defrosted to make a Life on Another Planet series then this cue would be its perfect title theme.

Suffused with the sort of celestial glow that John Williams was able to conjure for Superman’s Kryptonian introduction, or the sort of revelatory scope and grandeur that Jerry Goldsmith brought to his first and fifth big screen Star Trek outings, this rapturous slice of divine harmony really gets inside you and makes you thirst for visions, and for answers. Richard Watkins puts the tuba down and picks up the solo French Horn to play a lonely, lilting fanfare for those who long to reach beyond the stars. You can clearly imagine this as some sort of NASA flag-song for a parade of former astronauts saluting the next generation of interstellar explorers. With a female choir (The Metro Voices, Bach Choir and Apollo Voices all perform gloriously on the score) providing a dreamy reverie that is both optimistic and timeless.

I adore this track ... and it is hard to keep from just repeating it over and over. It is almost a sideways evolution of Goldsmith’s famous solo trumpet that was originally supposed to cry out over the impenetrable blackness of deep space until the Nostromo slowly appears ... but got mucked-around with by Scott. There is even a trace of Vangelis to the high, bending string tones and the curling French Horn that reminds of his resplendent synthetic layers for Blade Runner, which surely isn’t merely coincidental. This theme is returned to on the album in Track 12’s We Were Right, but in a far more subdued and pensive mode, the transcendental qualities swapped for a grimmer essence of much darker possibilities.

This critic is not so fond of Streitenfeld work on Prometheus, but writer of this article writes that he succeeded with eeriness and spooky atmospheres created by mixing many sound textures and recording orchestra playing backward and then digitally flipping that whole track in order to achieve some unsettling melody color... Streitenfeld who also was Zimmers pupil (as Williams) is more of a technician than composer of orchestral music (as critic says), and that's why Ridley brought Williams to compose practically the most important track of the movie - LIFE (and best if I may say). That move shows overall Ridleys distrust in Streitenfeld method... but dont forget that Ridley did the same to Goldsmith in Alien and in Legend!

READ FULL ARTICLE HERE:
https://www.avforums.com/review/prometheus-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-soundtrack-review.4822

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The Eighth Passenger
Mar 13, 2016, 08:18:04 PM
Reply #6 on: Mar 13, 2016, 08:18:04 PM
This critic is not so fond of Streitenfeld work on Prometheus, but writer of this article writes that he succeeded with eeriness and spooky atmospheres created by mixing many sound textures and recording orchestra playing backward and then digitally flipping that whole track in order to achieve some unsettling melody color.

No wonder it sounded so f_cking awful!


Harry Gregson-Williams' soundtrack for the Martian is brilliant though. It's subtle and gives a lot of texture and mood to the film without shoving it in your face. Here's one of the tracks that would sound good in an Alien film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4u8-dS7Etg&index=1&list=PLFyzg2g9ronE9z6WTG-vq3sYXFeJzSz3_


Enoch
Mar 13, 2016, 08:45:03 PM
Reply #7 on: Mar 13, 2016, 08:45:03 PM
Life in Prometheus was perfect!

This one from Martian is also good... there is some elements of Vangelis, Holst, Goldsmith,....
all that in a modern (electronic) variant. But I think that it isn dark enough; Covenant need mysterious,
grandiose themes (like Life) and very dark (mechanoid hybrid) themes with combined orchestra and some
odd sound textures and electronic elements.

« Last Edit: Mar 13, 2016, 09:27:13 PM by Enoch »




Enoch
Mar 14, 2016, 08:50:41 PM
Reply #11 on: Mar 14, 2016, 08:50:41 PM
Bad movie, only good thing was the music...i'd like a haunting scene with someone singing something like this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQhPxLGhkok

Well you know what is good ;D
Soundtrack for that movie was composed by Polish classical composer Wojciech Kilar, and that man was a mastermind of spooky music! He was a really good composer!

Listen to this tracks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8mgRWn4zU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVeZaWL8vQ4
Real thing begins at 1:06

Well Ligeti's Requiem would be nice homage to 2001 Space Odyssey and could also
serve as some kind of theme for Xeno ultimate creation!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1lcZM0MNek

This kind of music could also play well in Covenant type of movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1SZjOS0_PQ

If there are some kind of facilities or temples in Paradise, I would use some similar sound textures to this (beginning):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDV4Dfe5-Y4&list=LLdCfgz0exqG4fVSO-UbFZFQ&index=157

« Last Edit: Mar 14, 2016, 09:30:33 PM by Enoch »


Enoch
Mar 14, 2016, 09:40:06 PM
Reply #13 on: Mar 14, 2016, 09:40:06 PM
Yes... deep (basso) ominous chanting (few repeating notes)!

Maybe you ll recognise this:
http://www116.zippyshare.com/v/7wD7akUq/file.html
(*John Williams used this choral patterns for Emperors theme and for new movie)

« Last Edit: Mar 14, 2016, 09:45:02 PM by Enoch »


 

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