Rakai, you need to chill mate.
I am chill. I'm just expressing things I don't want to see. No wrong in that.
You may not like Predators or Prometheus, but that doesn't make them crap.
That's subjective and a matter of opinion. Shit, the same thing could be said about EVERY movie that's out there.
I think Master has a good point, you should take a break. I think you are taking this way too seriously. Of course there's things we all don't like and that's fine, but calm down man. It's just a movie. It's like people who still hate on the 1998 Godzilla to this day, it's just a film man.
I don't see any wrong in expressing one's frustrations. We are all passionate about something. I know folks who are still fuming about Joe Quesada pretty much erasing Spider-Man's marriage, and that's just a comic book. Shit, one of them is Linkara aka Lewis Lovhaug. And then there are people who are still mad about the Star Wars prequels (last I checked.. their ranting is.. generally accepted as the norm).
You know I like Prometheus and Predators, so I won't be bothered if elements of them are featured. But I honestly highly doubt they will be, it's a very low chance mate so you may be worrying over nothing. Wait for Shane Black to first begin releasing some details man.
I have a feeling it's a very low chance, but still... We don't know anything. Keep in mind I am not saying anything bad about a movie we know nothing about but after the disappointment of the last two recent movies, can you honestly blame a guy? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. But do know I have not said anything negative about this upcoming film.... Yet.
You know what? I'll put your mind at ease here. Predator: Incursion had no Prometheus or Predators stuff in it. In fact, the previous Alien trilogy didn't have much either except for Out of the Shadows having a medpod and River of Pain exploring the derelict a little bit and vaguely describing a fight between the Engineers and Aliens in it and that's it. None of the elements got in the way of the story whatsoever. River of Pain was still your good ol' Colonial Marines vs Aliens, it was expanding on the lore and showing human colonists struggling in the frontier, no gooey stuff to worry about.
What I am saying is they added things which I felt weren't necessary, and changed/retcon things which I thought really didn't need to be retconned whatsoever. Now you may see everything as fitting together, but I don't and my view is very black and white. Remember how I said that I felt that the old AVP universe/concepts/characters from 1989 - 2010 and how I see them as either dead or in limbo? That's what I'm trying to say what I am frustrated at. It's not so much that Incursion didn't have references to Prometheus or PREDATORS in it, it's more so that it's set in this rebooted/retconned universe. You can have lack of references but this new material is set in that rebooted world. The old one might be dead. That's what I'm saying.
If all of this is troubling you so much, then you should do as Master suggested and take a break. Enjoy the other franchises like I do sometimes, I go to Godzilla, Assassin's Creed and so on. Hell, I took one LONG break from Assassin's Creed after getting somewhat bored with it after Revelations, and then AC 4 Black Flag came out and I came back with a fiery crash as my interest got reignited. Maybe somewhere down the line, a new AvP media may come out and you will be pulled back from this jaded viewpoint and be interested once more.
I've already shifted my focus from Alien-Predator to other things like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Street Fighter. Yes, TMNT is my second love after Alien-Predator and well... I'll say this, and a lot of people are probably going to hate me for but right now, I'm seeing the treatment of TMNT as something more favorable. At least every incarnation and iteration is still very much alive (even what was assumed to be retconned universe-- surprisingly, Image's TMNT universe.. IS STILL active despite Peter Laird rendering it non-canon to the Mirage comics). The only TMNT movie I generally dislike happens to be TMNT 2007... which was considered the fourth movie.. until Turtles Forever thankfully retconned it as it's own separate universe.
As for Street Fighter? Very little changes about Street Fighter and it's still a popular franchise for it's fans.
If a new AVP does come out, I hope it's either set in the same universe as the previous AVP movies and old EU or the franchises get somewhere along the line.. well... you'd kill me if I say. I know everyone would.
Don't get me wrong, I know what it's like to disagree with where your favourite franchise is heading. I hated the idea of Mothra and King Ghidorah in the next Godzilla film, but hey, beggars cannot be choosers... I don't own the Godzilla franchise so I thought "screw it, who cares if Mothra and Ghidorah are in it?" It ain't gonna stop me from enjoying the next Godzilla film and over time, this grew on me and I accepted it now, heck, at first I was wary of the Kong crossover until I accepted it once it was confirmed.
I've never had a problem with Mothra, Ghidorah and Rodan appearing in the next movie. I grew up watching the Showa and Heisei era films. For me they have always been there since the beginning. So I don't see an issue with that. Same with King Kong. Is Godzilla your favorite franchise?
One day, you might like Predators and Prometheus, you never know lol, things tend to grow on people.
It's been five years since PREDATORS release, and I've given it five viewings. It hasn't grown on me. As for Prometheus... I actually liked it at first. I even gave it a glowing review when I first saw it. If I can find the link to said review on this forum... I'd be more than happy to show you that I actually liked it at first, but my opinion about it changed and I don't think it's going to be growing on me.
Preserve planet is associated with Super Predators. It doesn't really cheapens the concept cause it is not related to normal preds. As long as it stays that way fine by me. I think you won't see SPs again either.
Well we don't know entirely if the Perserve Planet is associated with just the Super Predators. It depends on your source of information. If you follow the Prequel comics, then it's revealed that both species use the planet to hunt on. If you follow the motion comic on the DVD and Blu-ray-- then it suggests that the Super Predators hunt the normal Predators on the Preserve Planet through actions. But... if you look to the Hungarian magazine interviews and read statements from Rodriguez, he did state that the normal Predators dump their outcast on the planet.. which sort of muddy things. So it's either a prison planet which was turned into a preserve planet by a rogue clan or something else.
I feel that we might get another thing to agree on Rakai. AvP-R, Predators and Prometheus are all weakest instalments in their respective franchises. Let's hope future is kind for our tastes.
I can... somewhat agree to that. While I do like AVP-R, I do acknowledge that... it does have a lot of problems which could've been vastly improved upon and we probably would've, could've, should've gotten something much more. The Alien designs were awkward, the PredAlien design was a hastly and wrong decision made by the suits to change what perhaps could've been seen.