Author Topic: Music for Alien 5 and beyond  (Read 1417 times)

Born Of Cold Light
Mar 30, 2015, 12:57:45 AM
Topic on: Mar 30, 2015, 12:57:45 AM
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What kind of music do you want to see for Alien 5?  Personally, if it has an Alien/Isolation vibe, I think that there should be a heavy amount of dark ambient.  Maybe Lustmord or Aphex Twin could be brought in as a composer:






evolution_rex
Mar 30, 2015, 05:17:59 PM
Reply #2 on: Mar 30, 2015, 05:17:59 PM
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I wouldn't mind if Marc Steitenfeld did it, I quite liked the score to Prometheus. But it'd be really cool if James Horner returned.


Space Sweeper
Mar 30, 2015, 05:48:00 PM
Reply #3 on: Mar 30, 2015, 05:48:00 PM
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Go listen to John Luther Adams' album Clouds of Forgetting, Clouds of Unknowing. That is exactly what I think the score should be like, in order to maintain that kind of cold, mysterious, anxiety-rattling space terror.


NetworkATTH
Mar 30, 2015, 07:10:12 PM
Reply #4 on: Mar 30, 2015, 07:10:12 PM
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*not as in, actually lifting songs directly. Just mood*


Gash
Apr 02, 2015, 12:00:35 AM
Reply #5 on: Apr 02, 2015, 12:00:35 AM
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Any t**t can throw some deep ominous chords together. It needs to be a real orchestral composer who has a broad command of styles if it's going to convey anything of the haunting majesty of Goldsmith. Of contemporary composers I rate James Newton Howard as he's come up with some scores that have had some emotional impact above all the thudding driving stuff that's been the mainstay of soundtracks the last decade or so.

I'm in two minds about the merits of Hans Zimmer. Perhaps post Pirates of Caribbean a lot of his scores have been about bangs and thuds and driving rhythms than can seem too generic, on the other hand Gladiator is a masterful score. Man of Steel, Intersteller etc all feel a bit vague and pompously grandiose without actually building on anything except volume.

What Streitenfeld did for Prometheus was, certainly in the more modern generic style but still had it's merits and stand out moments, Space Jockey, Collision, Invitation, amongst others.

I don't think there's anyone really of the quality of Goldsmith, whether it's stuff that went unused or not, everything he created for  A L I E N  matched the visuals, the sweeping yet sombre stuff caught the tone of Cobbs design, and the discordant haunting motifs matched Giger's desolate world and derelict. As did a lot of the unused material that symbolised the alien itself. He was not a snob about using synthsisers or any other more peculiar instruments that might lend his scores a unique feel, but if a contemporary score has any hope of capturing the essence of what made  A L I E N  such a nerve heightening score it needs to be built around a full orchestra first and foremost IMHO. 

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NetworkATTH
Apr 02, 2015, 03:32:55 AM
Reply #6 on: Apr 02, 2015, 03:32:55 AM
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Any t**t can throw some deep ominous chords together. It needs to be a real orchestral composer who has a broad command of styles if it's going to convey anything of of the haunting majesty of Goldsmith. Of contemporary composers I rate Harry Gregson Williams as he's come up with some scores that have had some emotion impact above all the thudding driving stuff that's been the mainstay of soundtracks the last decade or so.

Most of what made Alien, Alien, is going in the opposite direction of the orchestral score Goldsmith wanted, with making "deep ominous chords together". The difference is that they did it without the use of arpeggios or moogs or mellotrons. To say making a good score that relies on electronic elements "bad" is really pushing it. I'd rather have anything but more loud cliche bombastic Hans Zimmer blaring nonsense unless it's appropriate.

In my honest opinion the music should go in the direction more of Sinoia Caves' score for Beyond Beyond the Black Rainbow


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evolution_rex
Apr 02, 2015, 06:20:02 AM
Reply #7 on: Apr 02, 2015, 06:20:02 AM
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Beyond the Black Rainbow does have a GOAT soundtrack, It'd be great if they got him. (I could see him being the new Vengelis for Blade Runner 2 to be honest).


Gash
Apr 03, 2015, 05:46:52 AM
Reply #8 on: Apr 03, 2015, 05:46:52 AM
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I like this guys Jerry Goldsmith Demo..




Or just temp track the whole thing with Outland, the best Alien score an Alien film never had. Then keep the temp track for traditions sake.



Goldsmith also wrote some great music for films that weren't really worthy of his efforts. The track 'The Ritual/Low Bridge from the sub Indiana Jones cash-in Kings Soloman's Mines (1985) is a classic menacing Goldsmith track that deserves greater exposure. No sign of it on Youtube sadly.

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