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Author Topic: Multiple species of xenomorph  (Read 1709 times)

Born Of Cold Light
Feb 28, 2015, 05:54:51 AM
Topic on: Feb 28, 2015, 05:54:51 AM
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Do you think it's possible that multiple species of xenomorph could have evolved in different places in the galaxy?  The reason why I'm wondering is because, with their ability to mimic some of the physical characteristics of their host, the need for gradual, long term evolution seems to have been bred out.  This might be one of the reasons Ash referred to the alien as the "perfect organism."


Omegamorph
Feb 28, 2015, 11:11:27 AM
Reply #1 on: Feb 28, 2015, 11:11:27 AM
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It's been what I think explains the appearence differences between the LV426 Aliens and the Antarctica Aliens in AvP.


whiterabbit
Feb 28, 2015, 12:07:16 PM
Reply #2 on: Feb 28, 2015, 12:07:16 PM
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Well Ridley straight up said that the alien that came out of the engineer would look far different than an alien that popped out of the human and thus far all the aliens from each movie were different. So yea, we might not even recognized an alien that evolved on another planet.


Son Of Kane
Feb 28, 2015, 12:11:28 PM
Reply #3 on: Feb 28, 2015, 12:11:28 PM
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It's been what I think explains the appearence differences between the LV426 Aliens and the Antarctica Aliens in AvP.

That's actually just because AVP is garbage and uses garbage.

And from what we've seen so far in the original films I don't think so.

The Alien in Alien and Aliens in Aliens all came from the same place, there's loads of theories floating about such as the they are two different types or as Cameron stated that his were older. Alien3 we know it's because it came from an animal, in most people's preference an ox. So that difference is explained. (Leg design changes and slight other changes are purely aesthetic if you take A:I into account, and there are slight variations in Aliens also.)

The Resurrection Aliens are just a biological mess, I would hesitate to even call them Aliens.

The vials in the vases in Prometheus produce Alien-like creatures but I would refer to them as cousins at most. (Alligator to Crocodile)


whiterabbit
Feb 28, 2015, 12:22:02 PM
Reply #4 on: Feb 28, 2015, 12:22:02 PM
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Actually I hope that the hive alien hierarchy is just one path the alien can evolve into. After all, surely that is not the only method of life a creature so vastly adaptable could be relegated to.


Son Of Kane
Feb 28, 2015, 12:25:58 PM
Reply #5 on: Feb 28, 2015, 12:25:58 PM
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Actually I hope that the hive alien hierarchy is just one path the alien can evolve into. After all, surely that is not the only method of life a creature so vastly adaptable could be relegated to.

Truth is we simply don't know.


evolution_rex
Feb 28, 2015, 09:24:00 PM
Reply #6 on: Feb 28, 2015, 09:24:00 PM
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Well Ridley straight up said that the alien that came out of the engineer would look far different than an alien that popped out of the human and thus far all the aliens from each movie were different. So yea, we might not even recognized an alien that evolved on another planet.
When did he say this? So does that imply that the Deacon that came out of the Engineer was just a Engineer-Xenomorph?


Doktor Wunderbar
Feb 28, 2015, 11:41:06 PM
Reply #7 on: Feb 28, 2015, 11:41:06 PM
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Well Ridley straight up said that the alien that came out of the engineer would look far different than an alien that popped out of the human and thus far all the aliens from each movie were different. So yea, we might not even recognized an alien that evolved on another planet.
When did he say this? So does that imply that the Deacon that came out of the Engineer was just a Engineer-Xenomorph?
Not exactly, since the creature that impregnated the Engineer wasn't even a facehugger.



The Cruentus
Mar 03, 2015, 01:48:55 PM
Reply #9 on: Mar 03, 2015, 01:48:55 PM
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It's been what I think explains the appearence differences between the LV426 Aliens and the Antarctica Aliens in AvP.

That's actually just because AVP is garbage and uses garbage.

And from what we've seen so far in the original films I don't think so.

The Alien in Alien and Aliens in Aliens all came from the same place, there's loads of theories floating about such as the they are two different types or as Cameron stated that his were older. Alien3 we know it's because it came from an animal, in most people's preference an ox. So that difference is explained. (Leg design changes and slight other changes are purely aesthetic if you take A:I into account, and there are slight variations in Aliens also.)

The Resurrection Aliens are just a biological mess, I would hesitate to even call them Aliens.

The vials in the vases in Prometheus produce Alien-like creatures but I would refer to them as cousins at most. (Alligator to Crocodile)

The Leg design and the other changes were meant to be because of a different host, but Resurrection screwed that up along with silly design changes, fleshy look and so on. I wonder if there was explanation for it behind the scenes, its been awhile since I watched them.

As for Prometheus creatures, I agree, they are not proto-Xenomorphs no matter how someone wishes it, there is a connection kind like crocodile - Alligator, I would have said Caimen  :laugh: but nothing else, I would say the accelerent is much more deadly than Xenomorphs because its more infections and random, not even Xenos are immune to it.


Xenomorphine
Mar 03, 2015, 02:04:16 PM
Reply #10 on: Mar 03, 2015, 02:04:16 PM
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Evolution can always play its part, but a much easier way to do it would be to have more diverse hosts.

I'm honestly hoping the new film will show us some nice Lovecraftian stuff along those lines. Aliens with different physiology because of having completely different hosts.


The Cruentus
Mar 03, 2015, 02:31:59 PM
Reply #11 on: Mar 03, 2015, 02:31:59 PM
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I would love to see that, pity the original script for Prometheus wasn't used, we would have had white Xenomorphs then,  Beluga-morphs I believe they were called.
The chestburster had the ability to slide through anything due to a lack of bones or something, the "facehugger" was like an octopus as well, apparently the cargo holds of the Engineer ships held different variation of Xenomorphs or bio-weapons.


Corporal Hicks
Mar 03, 2015, 02:38:38 PM
Reply #12 on: Mar 03, 2015, 02:38:38 PM
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The Leg design and the other changes were meant to be because of a different host, but Resurrection screwed that up along with silly design changes, fleshy look and so on. I wonder if there was explanation for it behind the scenes, its been awhile since I watched them.

They were mutants. DNA crossover from Ripley.


The Cruentus
Mar 03, 2015, 02:41:26 PM
Reply #13 on: Mar 03, 2015, 02:41:26 PM
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True but that doesn't explain the "dog legs", the fleshy look I do attribute to the dna cross over however.
This is also a sad thing, we want Xenomorphs to stay with their original bio-mechanical look but we also like to have something new, both can be either good or bad. Chet was bad for sure.  :laugh:


Xenomorphine
Mar 03, 2015, 04:04:59 PM
Reply #14 on: Mar 03, 2015, 04:04:59 PM
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The best theory I've heard is that the genetic manipulation caused some of the 'pure' DNA strain of the Queen to be carried over. Hence, the leg design.


 

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