It is neither succinct or on point.
Yes. It is. You just don't like it. That's fine. There's nothing wrong with disliking the retcon, but what OZ said is exactly right.
Retcon Aliens. Ripley got back to Earth 9 months after the Nostromo blew and 35 years later she's back in space and heading towards that unknown, unnamed planetoid.
I'd be very interested in seeing where that alternative could take things too.
Creative license could be an excuse for anything. It's not a justification PLOT wise. Which is what I asked for. You are maybe misunderstanding what I designed the thread for.
Why take a crazy, dumb explanation when you can forego that and have a potentially good film that stands on its own?
I suppose it depends on how you look at it.
Just, as an example, look at the sober and mature way Aliens handles Ripley being locked away for over half a century. It reads like it could be potentially outlandish. "Ripley got stuck in space for 57 years, and after returning to Earth she's paired up with spess mahrens to go back and fight HUNDREDS OF ALIEMS!" Ya know? It's all in the way that you execute your bullsh*t.
Exactly and from a plot perspective I don't see the justification. We have cnaisters full of alien DNA mutating people in all kinds of ways, and Engineer gods orchestrating such things and the monsters themselves and all the above... And that's all CANON. If PROMETHEUS is canon - why can't A:R be canon?
Not really - Alien 3 didn't ruin opportunities, Resurrection did that itself with the line "for all intents and purposes, she succeeded". There was far more they could have done after 3 but it was the need to bring Sigourney back that took AR where it went.
And here is an actual answer I was looking for.
A:R proposes that Ripley suceeded. Maybe Prometheus or Prometheus 2, doesn't allow for that and therefore they will have boxed themselves in. Narratively, that would justify, at leats retconning A:R.
Still - I don't find anything in A:R to be out of step with the things in Prometheus. In fact, I still say PROMETHUES made A:R a better entry in the series. As well as ALIEN 3 because it made the subtext in A3 more apparent.
Every film ever is money grabbing -- nothing makes 'retcons' any more guilty of doing that.
Exactly and A5 without a retcon could potentially make just as much money.
So what we have here is fan wank and unless there is a good reason for the retcon it will play as a rehash instead of a proper entry. Doesn't anyone else see how cheap that makes the new terminator seem?
Not the story idea, but the obvious attempt to return to what the second film was?
Its done. Just make a new film. Not a film that tries to do what has alreayd been done. THIS IS WHAT MADE ALIENS SO GOOD IN THE FIRST PLACE!
It changed and expanded. And its the one thing that all the Alien films did right.